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| gcb | #startmeeting oslo | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 1 14:01:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gcb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 14:01 |
| gcb | #startmeeting oslo | 14:01 |
| openstack | gcb: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 14:01 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 14:01 |
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| gcb | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, crushil, dansmith, dhellmann | 14:01 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for dims, dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb | 14:01 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for GheRivero, haypo, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti | 14:02 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for kragniz, lhx_, lifeless, lxsli, Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor | 14:02 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for redrobot, rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak | 14:02 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek | 14:02 |
| gcb | dhellmann, welcome | 14:02 |
| dhellmann | hi, gcb | 14:02 |
| ansmith | o/ | 14:02 |
| crushil | \o | 14:02 |
| dims | o/ | 14:02 |
| gcb | Today is international workers holiday :-) | 14:02 |
| gcb | hi ansmith crushil ,dims | 14:03 |
| gcb | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:03 | |
| kgiusti | o/ | 14:03 |
| gcb | hi kgiusti | 14:03 |
| kgiusti | hey! | 14:04 |
| gcb | #link http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/?groupKey=build_name&resolutionKey=hour&searchProject=-with-oslo | 14:04 |
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| gcb | glance and keystone need more work to fit oslo.config 4.0 before we make it in requirements #link https://review.openstack.org/459411 | 14:05 |
| gcb | any other redflags ? | 14:06 |
| gcb | okay, let's move on | 14:07 |
| gcb | #topic Releases for Pike | 14:07 |
| dims | gcb : reviews already in progress for both? | 14:07 |
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| gcb | dims, yes, I post some fixes, but need more work related project specific domain knowledge, so I talked the PTLs and hope we can resolve issues | 14:08 |
| dhellmann | gcb : I just approved this week's oslo releases, so those should go through in the next hour or so | 14:08 |
| gcb | dhellmann, I think it's okay to release new one, though we can't merge https://review.openstack.org/459411 now | 14:11 |
| dims | gcb : great | 14:11 |
| gcb | dhellmann, we don't break projects' gate tests, even oslo.config 4.1 | 14:12 |
| dhellmann | gcb: yes, it's not ideal to skip like that but it should be ok | 14:12 |
| dhellmann | if you want to hold future oslo.config releases, don't include them in the weekly release patch :-) | 14:12 |
| gcb | dhellmann, yeah agree | 14:13 |
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| gcb | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:14 |
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| gcb | dims: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461105/ is ready to merge | 14:14 |
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| dhellmann | I have a few patches that could use reviews before the summit | 14:15 |
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| dhellmann | #link oslo-specs proposal to improve logging debugging https://review.openstack.org/460112 | 14:15 |
| dhellmann | #link oslo.log change to add line numbers to log messages https://review.openstack.org/459426 | 14:15 |
| dhellmann | #link oslo.log change to add exception summaries to log messages https://review.openstack.org/459424 | 14:16 |
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| dims | dhellmann : ack lining them up for today | 14:16 |
| dhellmann | I have them marked WIP so we don't land them before the discussion at the summit, but it would be good to have folks who are interested do a quick review of the code changes and definitely read the spec | 14:16 |
| dims | gotcha dhellmann | 14:17 |
| dhellmann | thanks, dims | 14:17 |
| gcb | dhellmann, will help review tomorrow and I added it in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-pike-tracking | 14:17 |
| dhellmann | great! | 14:17 |
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| dims | i did have one idea to encrypt passwords using castellan in oslo.config, will have to write a spec | 14:18 |
| dims | if anyone has an interest, please let me know | 14:18 |
| dhellmann | I'm interested in seeing how that would work | 14:18 |
| dhellmann | for those interested, the forum session about the logging changes is https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18778/enhancing-log-message-headers-for-rt-debug-and-traceability | 14:19 |
| dhellmann | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18778/enhancing-log-message-headers-for-rt-debug-and-traceability | 14:19 |
| gcb | dims: useful use case, I remember some one have asked for that feature | 14:20 |
| gcb | dhellmann, cool thanks the links, not sure I can attend the summit in time | 14:21 |
| dims | ack dhellmann gcb - y it has come a few times before | 14:21 |
| dhellmann | gcb : do you mean you are not coming to boston next week? | 14:22 |
| gcb | dims, dhellmann : Do you think is is necessary to post oslo weekly review priorities to ML like other projects did ? | 14:22 |
| dhellmann | gcb : I like the idea. I think we should try it. | 14:22 |
| dims | gcb : i think it will help | 14:22 |
| dims | +1 | 14:22 |
| gcb | dhellmann, My visa application is still on status "Administrative Processing", so not sure I can attend the summit in time | 14:23 |
| dhellmann | oh, no! | 14:23 |
| gcb | dhellmann, dims : ack will try to do that | 14:23 |
| dhellmann | we have a forum session planned. I can volunteer to moderate it in case you don't make it. | 14:23 |
| kgiusti | I'll be there also. | 14:24 |
| * dims still has to figure out his schedule | 14:25 | |
| dhellmann | kgiusti : you're moderating the session on messaging services, right? | 14:25 |
| kgiusti | yes | 14:26 |
| dhellmann | cool, just checking my memory | 14:26 |
| kgiusti | I volunteer to do the forum session prior to mine (same room) - Oslo dev/user feedback | 14:27 |
| dhellmann | kgiusti : ok, sounds good. I already emailed the committee, I'll reply again and copy you. | 14:27 |
| kgiusti | dhellmann: ok | 14:28 |
| kgiusti | fyi - epad for that forum: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-Oslo-brainstorming | 14:28 |
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| dhellmann | kgiusti : thanks | 14:29 |
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| gcb | I just lost my network connection | 14:33 |
| dhellmann | gcb: I don't think you missed much. kgiusti and I both offered to cover that oslo session at the summit if you can't make it. I've emailed Shamail with that info so the session will stay on the schedule. | 14:34 |
| gcb | not sure I sent out the last message, repeated: I think we can skip oslo weekly meeting on next Monday | 14:34 |
| dhellmann | yes, I think that makes sense | 14:35 |
| kgiusti | short of giving you $$$ for bribes, I'll keep my fingers crossed for your visa :) | 14:35 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I'm not sure if there's any way to help speed that along :-/ | 14:36 |
| gcb | dhellmann, kgiusti : there is no other way, just wait, forward to seeing you in time | 14:38 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 14:38 |
| kgiusti | :D | 14:38 |
| gcb | any other thing we can discuss here ? if we don't have, I think we can end the meeting :-) | 14:43 |
| dhellmann | we've already covered the topic I wanted to raise | 14:43 |
| kgiusti | all good here | 14:43 |
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| gcb | okay, let's end the meeting | 14:48 |
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| gcb | #endmeeting | 14:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 1 14:48:55 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-05-01-14.01.html | 14:48 |
| gcb | thanks everyone | 14:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-05-01-14.01.txt | 14:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-05-01-14.01.log.html | 14:49 |
| dhellmann | thanks! | 14:49 |
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| dtantsur | \o/ | 17:23 |
| jlvillal | Woot! | 17:23 |
| dtantsur | #startmeeting ironic | 17:23 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 1 17:23:56 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtantsur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:23 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:23 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:24 |
| jlvillal | o/ Like I've been waiting a really long time.... | 17:24 |
| dtantsur | finally! hello everyone and welcome to ironic meeting :) | 17:24 |
| NobodyCam | w00t | 17:24 |
| dtantsur | our agenda is as usual at | 17:24 |
| dtantsur | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 17:24 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | :) | 17:24 |
| * jlvillal arm is tired ... | 17:24 | |
| dtantsur | #topic Announcements / Reminders | 17:24 |
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| dtantsur | #info Pike priorities update: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460086/, all cores please vote | 17:24 |
| dtantsur | we're reducing the number of priorities :( and removing some people :( :( | 17:24 |
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| rloo | :-( | 17:25 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | :( | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | next, | 17:25 |
| * jlvillal emotes sadness | 17:25 | |
| dtantsur | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/116095.html summary of the virtual meetup | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | it was quite good, let's try moar of these | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | #info OpenStack R will be called Rocky :) | 17:25 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: There was a suggestion that maybe we could do one of our meetings each month as a conference call | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | next, I suggest canceling the next meeting, on May 8th | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal, we can try it, sure | 17:26 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: I am +1 on that. Maybe first meeting of the month? | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal, starting with June, I guess? | 17:26 |
| jlvillal | Not sure what others think. | 17:26 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | +1 | 17:26 |
| jlvillal | Okay for cancelling if a lot of people will be absent. I'll be around. | 17:27 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal, let's bring it to the ML, we don't have a quorum here unfortunately | 17:27 |
| jlvillal | Works for me. | 17:27 |
| dtantsur | May 8th is a holiday in many places, and it's also the 1st day of the Forum | 17:27 |
| rloo | in honor of ^^, lets skip the meeting next Monday | 17:28 |
| jlvillal | makes sense then. | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | ok | 17:28 |
| NobodyCam | sounds good | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | #agreed Let's skip the meeting next Monday | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | any other announcements, reminders? | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | #topic Review subteam status reports | 17:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review subteam status reports (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:28 | |
| dtantsur | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard starting with line 92 | 17:29 |
| dtantsur | I hope that most of you already had a chance to review/update it due to the late start | 17:29 |
| dtantsur | any questions or comments? | 17:29 |
| rloo | i have a question about bfv. there's a lot of stuff there. what i want to know is: is it working? | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia, mjturek ^^^ | 17:30 |
| TheJulia | hshinna has been doing testing, although he found a blocking connection information constraint | 17:30 |
| TheJulia | hopefully we'll have that taken care of this week | 17:30 |
| rloo | TheJulia: so all the patches are there, just need more testing, reviewing? | 17:30 |
| TheJulia | some refactoring of the cinder driver is going to be needed to send along exactly what cinder is expecting, not just what it is using, since it expects more. | 17:31 |
| rloo | TheJulia: and the nova side -- is that a 'simple' patch? (just trying to get an idea of when we need to get the ironic side done etc in order to get it all into pike) | 17:31 |
| wanyen | IMO, uefi iscsi boot fromcinder volume should be part of the bfv | 17:31 |
| TheJulia | and another patch needs to be wrapped up that is skip logic for the conductor | 17:31 |
| TheJulia | wanyen: This has been discussed. We have a specific BFV meeting if you wish to discuss it. | 17:32 |
| rloo | TheJulia: ok. if we don't ask, someone should ping us when we are getting close to eg nova deadlines... | 17:32 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia, do we already have a chain of patches that can be tried out? or is it still too WIP? | 17:32 |
| TheJulia | rloo: fairly simple, I believe it is just one patch. I'm starting to doubt pike because the fallout has pretty much nuked our velocity right now | 17:32 |
| wanyen | The Julia, when and what room of bfv meeting? | 17:32 |
| rloo | TheJulia: :-( | 17:32 |
| dtantsur | wanyen, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-BFV | 17:32 |
| TheJulia | wanyen: please see https://eavesdrop.openstack.org | 17:32 |
| jlvillal | wanyen: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/ | 17:32 |
| wanyen | The Julia, tx | 17:33 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: chain, but one that is needed is WIP which is deployment skip logic | 17:33 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia, did you have a chance to chat with derekh? you can try throwing things on him | 17:33 |
| TheJulia | I created it and tossed it up to see | 17:33 |
| TheJulia | I briefly chatted with derekh, he was going to look into things and get back with me | 17:33 |
| dtantsur | ok, good. I hope he can more or less compensate the loss of people.. | 17:34 |
| TheJulia | me too | 17:35 |
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| dtantsur | it still looks doable, let's try to keep the pace | 17:35 |
| rloo | the other 'big' thing i'm not sure about, are all the network-related stuff. | 17:35 |
| rloo | there are links to various things, not sure which are more urgent, which to review first, etc. | 17:35 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia, I wonder if it's possible to more aggressively split the patches to avoid 1000-lines like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366197/ | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | rloo, the week priorities? :) | 17:36 |
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| dtantsur | I mean, networking is great, but BFV and rolling upgrades are around for so long that they count as technical debt :) | 17:36 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: it is kind of one of those half full or half empty things. More patchesets will also just slow us down just as well | 17:36 |
| rloo | dtantsur: yes, but who knows what the priorities are :-( | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia, maybe. it's much easier for me to review small patches | 17:37 |
| dtantsur | rloo, we decide it every week, no? or do I misunderstand your question? | 17:37 |
| jlvillal | +1 on easier to review smaller patches, but I'm stating the obvious :) | 17:37 |
| rloo | dtantsur: we do, but we haven't had network folks in our meetings for a few weeks. | 17:37 |
| rloo | dtantsur: do you know what the priorities are for the network related work? | 17:37 |
| TheJulia | seems like we need to circle back tomorrow about networking stuff | 17:38 |
| dtantsur | rloo, not quite, that's why we have meetings.. | 17:38 |
| mjturek | TheJulia: I'm hoping to get an update on the cinder driver either today or tomorrow FYI. I might have some questions later today though | 17:38 |
| TheJulia | mjturek: awesome | 17:39 |
| rloo | dtantsur: right, which is why i'm bringing it up, I don't have a good feel for the network related stuff :) | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | me neither. my gut feeling is that it's not THAT pressing as stuff we have now (and our priorities seem to confirm that) | 17:39 |
| TheJulia | rloo: status I'm aware of is sambetts|afk was writing the spec as of last week | 17:39 |
| TheJulia | for routed networks | 17:39 |
| TheJulia | They are intertwined, perhaps we should re-prioritize the network stuff for landing next cycle...... | 17:40 |
| TheJulia | the remaining stuff that is | 17:40 |
| * dtantsur notes that we're past 10 minutes cap for the statuses | 17:40 | |
| rloo | seems like a chicken/egg (just saying). since i don't know if any network things are priorities, i wouldn't suggest they get on the weekly priority list... | 17:40 |
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| TheJulia | rloo: without specs/things to review.... *shrug* | 17:41 |
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| dtantsur | well, let's chat about priorities then :) | 17:41 |
| rloo | ok, lets take offline. if anyone sees any of the network guys grab them and interrogate. | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | #topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week (2 weeks in this case) | 17:41 |
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| dtantsur | TheJulia++ | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | ok, we've landed one of the items - the client side for the driver comp (\o/) | 17:42 |
| rloo | the etags spec has one +2. | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | do we even want to take more? or let's try to make some progress during these 2 a bit shorter (for some of us) weeks? | 17:42 |
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| TheJulia | I can go take a look at the etags spec later today once I test out some images in my lab | 17:43 |
| dtantsur | cool! | 17:43 |
| rloo | thx TheJulia! | 17:43 |
| rloo | dtantsur: i'm fine with the weekly priorities as is. maybe after forum, we can pick up momentum. | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | yeah, we can't expect a lot of activity till next meeting, due to all these things | 17:45 |
| dtantsur | any objections to keep pushing on the same topics? | 17:45 |
| dtantsur | oh, I'm putting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460086/ there as it's a must do | 17:45 |
| TheJulia | I wouldn't mind a longer list of priority things that need reviews, personally. But I'm stupidly busy right now | 17:45 |
| dtantsur | if we magically finish with what we have, we can take more from the same topics | 17:46 |
| TheJulia | wfm | 17:46 |
| dtantsur | ok, then | 17:46 |
| dtantsur | #topic Open discussion | 17:46 |
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| dtantsur | anything? | 17:47 |
| * dtantsur wraps up in 1 minute of nobody brings anything :) | 17:47 | |
| rloo | just a quick one i hope. wrt cimc | 17:47 |
| rloo | sam wants to rename the Cisco UCSM driver (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400673/). Given the dynamic drivers, is it worth doing? | 17:48 |
| rloo | or sorry, ucsm. | 17:48 |
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| TheJulia | we agreed a long time ago not to change the legacy drivers once composition landed | 17:48 |
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| dtantsur | oh, that driver.. | 17:48 |
| dtantsur | yes, TheJulia++ | 17:49 |
| dtantsur | what's even worse, IIRC UcsSdk is deprecated | 17:49 |
| rloo | that's what i thought. | 17:49 |
| rloo | OH | 17:49 |
| rloo | so -2 on that patch i guess. | 17:49 |
| rloo | (that's it for me) | 17:51 |
| dtantsur | I suspect so | 17:51 |
| TheJulia | I feel like -2 is kind of right | 17:51 |
| dtantsur | ok, let's comment on the patch then | 17:52 |
| dtantsur | anything else? | 17:52 |
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| TheJulia | is it worth mentioning that people should ping me if they need an ironic core next week? | 17:52 |
| TheJulia | at the summit/forum? | 17:52 |
| rloo | TheJulia: yup | 17:52 |
| rloo | TheJulia: i think you'll be the only core there? | 17:52 |
| TheJulia | I believe so yes | 17:53 |
| rloo | unless jroll is going? anyone know? | 17:53 |
| jlvillal | REPRESENT! ;) | 17:53 |
| TheJulia | It may also mean that I might have to take on an additional session | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | rloo, I think he is not | 17:53 |
| TheJulia | I don't think jroll is going ag this point | 17:53 |
| TheJulia | err, at | 17:53 |
| TheJulia | I just messaged him earlier so I'll know soon enough | 17:53 |
| rloo | thank you so much TheJulia! :) | 17:53 |
| jlvillal | +1 Thanks TheJulia | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | ++ | 17:54 |
| TheJulia | <3 | 17:54 |
| TheJulia | No thanks are required, I'm just doing what is needed :) | 17:54 |
| dtantsur | finishing 5 minutes earlier as a compensation of the late start? :) | 17:55 |
| rloo | ++ | 17:55 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 17:55 |
| dtantsur | thanks all, see you in 2 weeks in this room and tomorrow otherwise! | 17:56 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: sounds awesome :) | 17:56 |
| dtantsur | #endmeeting | 17:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 1 17:56:15 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-05-01-17.23.html | 17:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-05-01-17.23.txt | 17:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-05-01-17.23.log.html | 17:56 |
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| ildikov | #startmeeting openstack_upstream_institute | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 1 20:00:27 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ildikov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack_upstream_institute)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_upstream_institute' | 20:00 |
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| mrmartin | o/ | 20:00 |
| blancos__ | o/ | 20:00 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 20:00 |
| ildikov | ping jungleboyj, knikolla, jaypipes, mlavalle, spotz, csatari, mrmartin, marst, blancos, smcginnis, trevormc, vkmc, PagliaccisCloud, madorn, kmARC | 20:01 |
| marst | o/ | 20:01 |
| ildikov | sorry guys, I'm slow copy-pasting today | 20:01 |
| trevormc | o/ | 20:01 |
| ianychoi | o/ | 20:01 |
| kmARC | o/ | 20:01 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: kudos, if you're home! | 20:01 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: We are just overly excited to be here. ;-) | 20:01 |
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| ianychoi | ildikov, :) | 20:01 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: that's very early :/ | 20:01 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 20:01 |
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| ianychoi | ildikov, I am now in Oslo Norway - it's 10pm not early. I will arrive at Boston on Saturday evening. | 20:03 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: ok good, that's survivable | 20:04 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 20:04 |
| jungleboyj | ianychoi: I thought you had mentioned you were going to be traveling. Hope it was a good trip. | 20:04 |
| ianychoi | :) | 20:04 |
| ildikov | ok, I'm finished hunting down people | 20:04 |
| diablo_rojo | Hello :) | 20:04 |
| ildikov | so we can start :) | 20:04 |
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| ildikov | agenda is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-upstream-institute-meetings | 20:04 |
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| spotz_ | Hey all doing double meeting | 20:05 |
| ildikov | as it wasn't prepared by diablo_rojo this time it's pretty thin, but hopefully we will be still good :) | 20:05 |
| ildikov | spotz_: :( | 20:05 |
| diablo_rojo | Lol | 20:05 |
| ianychoi | jungleboyj, hi thank you :) | 20:05 |
| ildikov | spotz_: thanks for coming :) | 20:05 |
| diablo_rojo | Not as much to do since we are so close. | 20:05 |
| spotz_ | hey so is diablo_rojo! | 20:05 |
| ildikov | #topic Announcements | 20:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: openstack_upstream_institute)" | 20:05 | |
| ildikov | so we have 38 confirmations so far! | 20:05 |
| spotz_ | woot | 20:05 |
| smcginnis | How many were in BCN? | 20:06 |
| ildikov | I think that's pretty good, I hope we will have a bit more people showing up | 20:06 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: around 70 | 20:06 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: the outside US ones I think are more popular | 20:06 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: we had like less than 20 students in the room in Austin last year for instance | 20:07 |
| ildikov | so we start Saturday at 1pm | 20:07 |
| smcginnis | Hmm, guess that kind of makes sense. | 20:07 |
| diablo_rojo | I expect people will show up that didnt register too | 20:07 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo: Probably. | 20:07 |
| ildikov | those of you who're around it would be great to catch up for lunch | 20:07 |
| ianychoi | 38 people looks great! | 20:08 |
| ildikov | I sent out a mail to all the trainers/mentors I know plan to join | 20:08 |
| ildikov | please let me know if you cannot come and you're on the list or if you know anyone who's coming and not on the list | 20:09 |
| ildikov | if anyone has a preference on where to meet plz share that too, otherwise, I'll pick one :) | 20:09 |
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| smcginnis | I think I arrive around lunch time, but would love to catch up with everyone if I can make it there in time. | 20:10 |
| ildikov | we start at 9am on Sunday, those of you who can join only that day please try to be around from 8:30am in case students with questions show up or just simply to catch up and see how things were going on Saturday and get ready for the day | 20:10 |
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| ianychoi | Yep :_ | 20:11 |
| ianychoi | :) | 20:11 |
| jungleboyj | I am with smcginnis | 20:11 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: jungleboyj: ok, tnx, noted | 20:11 |
| smcginnis | Literally. | 20:11 |
| ildikov | :) | 20:11 |
| diablo_rojo | At a minimim if you all could plan to be there 15 min early that would be wonderful- 30 min would be better of course :) | 20:11 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo: +1 | 20:12 |
| ianychoi | diablo_rojo, +1 | 20:12 |
| ildikov | ok, let's move on | 20:12 |
| ildikov | #topic Open Reviews | 20:12 |
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| ildikov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/training-guides | 20:13 |
| ildikov | there are two tiny ones in the training-guides repo | 20:13 |
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| diablo_rojo | I just pushed one up today to add continued education stuff to the website i.e. onboarding rooms and git and gerrit lunch and learn | 20:13 |
| ildikov | one is for the dev enb | 20:13 |
| ildikov | and the other is a few pointers to students on the website for the week | 20:14 |
| ildikov | we chose the web to make it visible | 20:14 |
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| ildikov | I have three housekeeping patches for Sandbox: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack-dev/sandbox | 20:15 |
| ildikov | will merge them and we can play with the deep dive material | 20:15 |
| ildikov | hoping that no one will mess it up before the training :) | 20:16 |
| ildikov | or well, not drastically at least | 20:16 |
| ildikov | plz check the training-guides patches and let's get them merged quickly | 20:17 |
| ildikov | if nothing else, then let's move on | 20:17 |
| smcginnis | If not, it can be a lesson for them in "collaboration". :) | 20:17 |
| diablo_rojo | smcginnis, :) | 20:17 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: :) | 20:17 |
| ildikov | #topic Projects/areas to cover during the training | 20:17 |
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| ildikov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/boston-upstream-institute-presenters | 20:18 |
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| ildikov | so I added there numbers to see how many people we have confirmed for each area | 20:19 |
| ildikov | compute, containers and networking are the most popular ones | 20:19 |
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| jungleboyj | :-( Need more storage peeps. | 20:20 |
| ildikov | we have a few projects not really covered, we can get those guys and girls together and teach them things by picking an area from those we have coverage for | 20:20 |
| spotz_ | ha! | 20:20 |
| diablo_rojo | Containers people are really needed | 20:20 |
| spotz_ | inc0 never got back with his flights | 20:20 |
| ildikov | spotz_: did you finally find someone for containers? | 20:20 |
| diablo_rojo | jungleboyj, you and smcginnis will be there so that is something :) | 20:21 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 20:21 |
| spotz_ | ildikov: still need his flights | 20:21 |
| ildikov | spotz_: do you want me to go and ask or can you follow up? | 20:21 |
| jungleboyj | We will convert people | 20:21 |
| smcginnis | :) | 20:21 |
| spotz_ | either or | 20:21 |
| trevormc | we should have one person from AT&T that can work on containers. He's just been busy. | 20:21 |
| diablo_rojo | is xing going? She could help cover Manila and Cinder too | 20:22 |
| trevormc | s/work/help with | 20:22 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo: She is local. She could come down. | 20:22 |
| diablo_rojo | trevormc, will they be coming to the summit/be available Sunday? | 20:22 |
| spotz_ | diablo_rojo: She lives there, isn't planning on coming in until Sunday | 20:22 |
| jungleboyj | We have vkmc on Manila though and I got tdasilva for Swift. | 20:22 |
| trevormc | diablo_rojo: They should be. | 20:22 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo: vkmc is coming too | 20:22 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo: I mean we needed more people wanting to learn about storage. :-) | 20:23 |
| diablo_rojo | Ah | 20:23 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: +1 | 20:23 |
| ildikov | let's try not to have that many more mentors in the room than students :) | 20:23 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Exactly! ;_0 | 20:24 |
| jungleboyj | ;-) | 20:24 |
| ildikov | :) | 20:24 |
| mlavalle | trevormc: 6 interested in Neutron :-) | 20:24 |
| trevormc | good not too many! | 20:24 |
| diablo_rojo | trevormc, if you can drag them along that would be awesome :) | 20:24 |
| ildikov | so we can try to convert the people who didn't say which area they are interested in and a few more for which projects we don't have coverage | 20:24 |
| marst | ildikov: I'll be happy to be a student. Especially when Jay is around. | 20:24 |
| ildikov | so we might have 10 new storage people by the end of the day :) | 20:25 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: +2 | 20:25 |
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| ildikov | marst: haha, teach by example, how to be a student :) | 20:25 |
| ildikov | trevormc: will that AT&T person be around during the weekend? | 20:26 |
| trevormc | ildikov: yeah he should be there at least for Sunday. | 20:26 |
| trevormc | as a mentor | 20:26 |
| trevormc | i'll confirm with him and get back to you if not. | 20:26 |
| ildikov | trevormc: we have Brandon on the wiki with Helm | 20:26 |
| ildikov | I don't know whether he's your contact or someone else | 20:27 |
| ildikov | but either case it would be great if you can confirm | 20:27 |
| spotz_ | We could just grab people as they check-in to hotels and ask what projects they're on:) | 20:27 |
| diablo_rojo | spotz_, lol | 20:28 |
| ildikov | as Saturday is more of a generic part Sunday would be more than enough | 20:28 |
| trevormc | ildikov: oh, I wasn't aware brandon was going. Larry should be there for Kolla, thats what was listed in the etherpad when we met in Atlanta. | 20:28 |
| ildikov | spotz_: lol :) | 20:28 |
| diablo_rojo | ildikov, +1 | 20:28 |
| ildikov | trevormc: I don't know whether he's coming, he signed up to the team only, not for Boston | 20:28 |
| ildikov | trevormc: was just wondering who's your person :) | 20:28 |
| trevormc | haha ok. Larry should be attending from what Im aware of there hasn't been any changes | 20:29 |
| ildikov | trevormc: let's sync up after the meeting and see who we might have around | 20:29 |
| trevormc | ok | 20:29 |
| ildikov | trevormc: thanks! | 20:30 |
| ildikov | we have a few double booked slots for the presentations | 20:31 |
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| smcginnis | Tag team? | 20:31 |
| ildikov | I haven't seen people around for this meeting, so we will figure out during the week whether we pick someone or those will be slots with two presenters | 20:32 |
| jungleboyj | whooomp there it is! | 20:32 |
| smcginnis | What's the plan for that? One or two people presenting, the rest of the mentors available in the room to help answer questions? | 20:32 |
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| ildikov | smcginnis: we have exercises for all blocks | 20:32 |
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| ildikov | mentors should help with those | 20:32 |
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| ildikov | and having at least one mentor sitting at each table should also help with synchronizing who's finished and which group needs more time | 20:33 |
| smcginnis | Perfect | 20:33 |
| ildikov | and also answer questions if any | 20:33 |
| ildikov | people were quite active on IRC during the Barcelona training | 20:33 |
| ildikov | so a few of us should keep an eye on that too | 20:34 |
| kmARC | (hah, bc it was configured on their VM ;-) ) | 20:34 |
| ildikov | kmARC: and in Boston it will be too :) | 20:34 |
| ildikov | kmARC: so the patch is up to move the dev env VM setup after the intros | 20:34 |
| ildikov | the floor will be yours, I will not add that to the sign up etherpad to ensure it's all yours ;) | 20:35 |
| ildikov | kmARC: so as a summary, thanks again for putting together and updating and optimizing the VM image! :) | 20:36 |
| kmARC | No problem, I enjoyed procrastinating on my real job and play with my pet project :-D | 20:36 |
| ildikov | does anyone have questions for the exercises or any of the blocks? | 20:37 |
| ildikov | kmARC: :) | 20:37 |
| spotz_ | I need to see where we actually are:) | 20:37 |
| ildikov | spotz_: +1 | 20:38 |
| diablo_rojo | It might be a good idea for everyone to just go through all the slides so we are all familiar with whats there and are prepared to answer questions | 20:38 |
| ildikov | #action ALL to check the latest version of the material: https://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/ | 20:38 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo: ++ That is on my agenda | 20:38 |
| ildikov | so as diablo_rojo said, plz!!! | 20:39 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: If we do that we are bound to find issues, should we push up patches with fixes? | 20:39 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: BTW, do you know how to update the logo on the training webpage to the new one? | 20:39 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: I mean I couldn't find where to do it :) | 20:39 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: yes, push fixes please | 20:39 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Ok. Will do. | 20:40 |
| ianychoi | ildikov, which page? https://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/ ? | 20:40 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: I would say fix only typos and things that are fundamentally wrong | 20:40 |
| ildikov | polishing can come after we're done with the training | 20:40 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Of course. Wasn't thinking of any content changes. | 20:40 |
| smcginnis | +1 | 20:40 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: yep | 20:40 |
| ianychoi | ildikov, slide logos are updated by you :) | 20:40 |
| jungleboyj | Bugs only. ;-) | 20:40 |
| diablo_rojo | ianychoi, she is talking about the webpage I think | 20:40 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: I meant the logo on the web page, the left top corner | 20:40 |
| diablo_rojo | ianychoi, we already updated the slides :) | 20:41 |
| ianychoi | ildikov, I see. openstackdocstheme might need to be updated . I will see it :) | 20:41 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: oh, so that's a per project/page thing, I can try my best with it too | 20:41 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: smcginnis: do you want to talk about your deep dive idea fro the mail thread? | 20:42 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Sure. | 20:43 |
| ildikov | s/fro/for/ | 20:43 |
| ildikov | hmm no, s/fro/from/ :) | 20:43 |
| smcginnis | :) | 20:43 |
| jungleboyj | We are going to have a broken version of Cinder. | 20:43 |
| ildikov | hate Mondays... :) | 20:43 |
| jungleboyj | We had the idea of just putting a copy of Cinder up there for people to pull down to avoid having to do patching, but if you think everyone should be comfortable with apply a patch, we can just go that route. | 20:44 |
| jungleboyj | This is for the deep dive with some broken code. | 20:44 |
| ildikov | I think we can risk that who doesn't know how to do that we or the fellow students can teach them | 20:44 |
| ildikov | but that's my two cents | 20:45 |
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| jungleboyj | ildikov: Ok, we can go that route to be consistent with others then. | 20:45 |
| smcginnis | It does sound like we will have enough help there that if a student has trouble, we should be able to spend time with them to get them going. | 20:45 |
| ildikov | on the other hand, if we use the Sandbox repo that code might be way more broken than how you originally broke it | 20:45 |
| ianychoi | ildikov, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406450/ was settled but I need to more investigate whether the new theme was released or not. | 20:45 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Sounds like a good challenge. ;-) | 20:45 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 20:45 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: cool, thanks for checking | 20:46 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: I just realized that the docs page has the new logo already, but the training page does not | 20:46 |
| smcginnis | Must need to point to a new theme name? | 20:46 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: yep, and I also think that it can be a good experience for students to help each other out | 20:46 |
| smcginnis | +1 | 20:47 |
| ildikov | can make them more confident with things that are new to them if there are other things they can help each other with | 20:47 |
| smcginnis | Teaching always helps with learning. | 20:47 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: +1 | 20:47 |
| jungleboyj | Indeed. Have learned a lot that way. | 20:47 |
| ildikov | :) | 20:48 |
| ianychoi | ildikov, aha but no actual documentations yet I got it :) | 20:48 |
| ildikov | so it seems we will go with the patches and not the full code | 20:48 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Yes, that is fine. | 20:49 |
| ildikov | trevormc: mlavalle: are you preparing some code breaking exercises as well? | 20:50 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: cool, tnx | 20:50 |
| mlavalle | ildikov: yes | 20:50 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: great, tnx | 20:50 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: did anything come up that would be beneficial to discuss with the group here? | 20:51 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: I mean with the preparation/brainstorming/etc | 20:51 |
| mlavalle | ildikov: no, we are good. I am also almost done with my presentation / exercises for the on-boarding room | 20:51 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: wow, sounds pretty good! | 20:52 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: unintentionally I always have things for the last minute :/ | 20:52 |
| mlavalle | ildikov: np | 20:52 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: And I are working on putting together info that builds upon upstream-institute with Cinder specific details. | 20:52 |
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| ildikov | jungleboyj: for the on boarding room? | 20:53 |
| smcginnis | Yep | 20:53 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Yep | 20:53 |
| ildikov | cool! | 20:53 |
| ildikov | you can always re-use what we have for the training with those who didn't attend that | 20:54 |
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| ildikov | so having things built on top of it is a good idea IMHO | 20:54 |
| smcginnis | I think we are going to recap the upstream training, then get into Cinder specific things. | 20:54 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: What he said | 20:55 |
| smcginnis | :) | 20:55 |
| ildikov | at least you also have some extra things for advanced students, you can never know who shows up to the training :) | 20:55 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Right. | 20:55 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: sounds pretty good! | 20:55 |
| jungleboyj | That was our thought. | 20:55 |
| smcginnis | Exactly. I think we will have to just go with the flow and see how the audience turns out. | 20:55 |
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| smcginnis | 5 minutes | 20:55 |
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| ildikov | yep, pretty tough to get prepared for everyone | 20:56 |
| ildikov | we should encourage the projects to have their on boarding room things available somewhere publicly | 20:56 |
| smcginnis | Oh, that's not a bad idea. | 20:56 |
| ildikov | so we could pick them up for the training if we need material for areas | 20:56 |
| smcginnis | Would be good to link to it off of our project wiki pages. | 20:56 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah ... | 20:56 |
| smcginnis | Good idea | 20:56 |
| ildikov | and vice versa | 20:56 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: coolio, I will reach out to the projects then :) | 20:57 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: jungleboyj: I guess I can count on you for Cinder :) | 20:57 |
| ildikov | so we have 3 more minutes | 20:57 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: We got you covered | 20:57 |
| ildikov | is there anything I forgot, or any questions or comments from anyone to discuss? | 20:58 |
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| smcginnis | Probably. :) | 20:59 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: thanks, that helps :) | 20:59 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: That wasn't very nice. | 20:59 |
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| ildikov | then see everyone in Boston soon! | 20:59 |
| smcginnis | I meant it in the nicest way! :] | 20:59 |
| ildikov | keep on checking your mailboxes and hang out on the team channel! | 20:59 |
| jungleboyj | :-) Looking forward to it! | 20:59 |
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| ianychoi | See all you at Boston! | 21:00 |
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| ildikov | safe travels everyone!!! | 21:00 |
| ildikov | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
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| smcginnis | You too! | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 1 21:00:17 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| jungleboyj | Same to you! | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_upstream_institute/2017/openstack_upstream_institute.2017-05-01-20.00.html | 21:00 |
| mrmartin | o/ | 21:00 |
| ianychoi | ildikov, u too :) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_upstream_institute/2017/openstack_upstream_institute.2017-05-01-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
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