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| soichi | hi | 05:30 |
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| kaz | hi | 05:30 |
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| reedip_ | o/ | 05:32 |
| soichi | reedip_: hi | 05:32 |
| soichi | #startmeeting taas | 05:33 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 17 05:33:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is soichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:33 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:33 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 05:33 |
| soichi | #topic Feedback from OpenStack Summit Boston | 05:33 |
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| reedip_ | so ... how was the summit | 05:33 |
| reedip_ | did you go as well kaz ? | 05:33 |
| kaz | I met Motoki-san in Boston summit. | 05:33 |
| reedip_ | ok | 05:34 |
| soichi | i didn't | 05:34 |
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| kaz | I asked him about TaaS dashboard repo. | 05:34 |
| soichi | vnyyad: hi | 05:34 |
| kaz | He kindly tought me about that. | 05:34 |
| vnyyad | Hi! | 05:34 |
| yamamoto | hi | 05:35 |
| kaz | vnyyad: hi | 05:35 |
| kaz | yamamoto: hi | 05:35 |
| vnyyad | Hi! | 05:35 |
| kaz | 1. we should upload taas dashboard code in plugin form to the new repo instead of full horizon dashboard code which is applied taas dashboard patch. | 05:35 |
| kaz | This applies to the code which adds a new panel "Taps". | 05:36 |
| kaz | 2. if we will add taas feature in network topology view, we should propose to Horizon community to implement it pluggable. | 05:36 |
| kaz | For example, we should try to implement existing virtual router etc. pluggable. | 05:37 |
| kaz | I would like to try it. | 05:37 |
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| reedip_ | kaz : One question to you and others.. do we want taas dashboard to be within the network topology , or do we want it to be separate. I know logically we would like it to be integrated within the network topology but want to confirm from everyone so that there is no doubt | 05:39 |
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| vnyyad | reedip: yes, would be better in network topology | 05:40 |
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| soichi | i think integration into the network topology will noce to uers | 05:41 |
| reedip_ | ok thats 2 votes for YES... | 05:41 |
| soichi | noce -> nice | 05:41 |
| soichi | uers -> users | 05:41 |
| reedip_ | anything else to be added from the Boston summit? | 05:43 |
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| reedip_ | kaz, did you get any chance to meet up with an operator / operators ? I think we should submit a good talk for the Sydney summit so that the operators can be discussed with | 05:44 |
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| kaz | No, i did not | 05:45 |
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| kaz | I attended gigamon's session in marketplace theater which presented a product based on TaaS. | 05:46 |
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| soichi | kaz: does the product has a dashboard integrated with network topology? | 05:49 |
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| kaz | No, the view of the product is separrated from horizon dashboard. | 05:50 |
| reedip_ | where is anil when you need him :) | 05:51 |
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| reedip_ | anyways, what was the reaction at the marketplace, kaz , related to this product? | 05:51 |
| kaz | i think there is no questions from there. | 05:53 |
| reedip_ | kaz , ok ) | 05:53 |
| soichi | kaz: thanks | 05:54 |
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| soichi | #topic Open Discussion | 05:54 |
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| soichi | do you have any topic/update for today? | 05:55 |
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| soichi | can we close today's meeting? | 06:00 |
| kaz | i think so. | 06:00 |
| vnyyad | sure | 06:00 |
| soichi | okay, thank you. | 06:00 |
| soichi | #endmeeting | 06:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 17 06:01:03 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-05-17-05.33.html | 06:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-05-17-05.33.txt | 06:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-05-17-05.33.log.html | 06:01 |
| soichi | see you. bye | 06:01 |
| kaz | thanks, bye | 06:01 |
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| rhochmuth | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 17 15:00:50 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| rhochmuth | o/ | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| kamil | o/ | 15:00 |
| koji | o/ | 15:01 |
| cbellucci | o/ | 15:01 |
| haruki | o/ | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:01 |
| witek_ | hello | 15:01 |
| shinya_kwbt | o/ | 15:01 |
| joadavis | hello | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | Agenda for Wednesday May 17 2017 (15:00 UTC) | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 1.Using oslo_config for detection plugins https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000999 | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 2.Feedback from OpenStack Summit | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | •complicated deployment | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | •no scalable opensource DB | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | •comparisons with Ceilometer/Gnocchi | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 3. Create a pike branch for monasca-transform | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 4. Pike release | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 5. Alarm silencing, inhibition and grouping update | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 6. Grafana update | 15:01 |
| rhochmuth | 7. Reviews that should be addressed? | 15:01 |
| bklei_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| qwebirc69975 | hello | 15:01 |
| hosanai | o/ | 15:01 |
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| rhochmuth | wow, good group today | 15:01 |
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| rhochmuth | so let's get started on the agenda | 15:02 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Using oslo_config for detection plugins | 15:02 |
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| rhochmuth | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000999 | 15:02 |
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| witek_ | Summit has posted it for the last week | 15:02 |
| witek_ | I just moved it over | 15:03 |
| witek_ | I think the proposed idea is good | 15:04 |
| Guest24241 | unfortunately he's not here today | 15:04 |
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| witek_ | also we could try to coordinate it for all services in one place, as kornicameister suggested | 15:05 |
| rhochmuth | sounds good to me | 15:05 |
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| rhochmuth | is there anything else to discuss on this topic? | 15:06 |
| witek_ | not sure, not from me | 15:06 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Feedback from OpenStack Summit | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Feedback from OpenStack Summit (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:06 | |
| witek_ | I have added three most frequenly asked questions we had during the Summit | 15:07 |
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| witek_ | * complicated deployment, no scalable DB and differences to Ceilometer | 15:08 |
| witek_ | I have attended several sessions about kolla, esp. kolla-ansible | 15:08 |
| witek_ | I think we could have a closer look at as the mean of easy Monasca deployment | 15:09 |
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| rhochmuth | I think the monasca-docker and monasca-helm repos help in the short-term | 15:10 |
| rhochmuth | but those are outside of OpenSTack and Kolla | 15:10 |
| timothyb89 | easy deployment is certainly the goal for both monasca-docker and monasca-helm | 15:11 |
| witek_ | yes, you have done a lot of work on it, and it's the right direction | 15:12 |
| witek_ | but it doesn't have visibility in OpenStack | 15:12 |
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| rhochmuth | so, how do we create some visibility, without joining Kolla | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | or how do we join Kolla | 15:13 |
| rhochmuth | and get the visibility that way? | 15:13 |
| witek_ | I would like to check how much effort would it be to join kolla, kolla-ansible | 15:13 |
| timothyb89 | considering the discussions on the -dev list we may want to tread carefully there, since we intend to release binary images | 15:13 |
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| dhague | There is also https://github.com/sapcc/helm-charts/tree/master/openstack/monasca of course :) | 15:15 |
| rhochmuth | witek, if you want to follow-up with the Kolla team and PTL to get there thoughts/ideas on this, that might help | 15:16 |
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| rhochmuth | i'm sure timothyb89 and hoppal might be up for some discussions | 15:16 |
| witek_ | yes, will follow this | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | please feel free to involve me too | 15:16 |
| timothyb89 | sure, I'd be happy to discuss further | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | i'm not the docker/helm expert | 15:16 |
| witek_ | great, thanks | 15:16 |
| rhochmuth | thanks timothyb89 | 15:17 |
| joadavis | I think keeping a maintained devstack install helps too, for those who aren't ready for containerizing to reference. | 15:17 |
| witek_ | dhague: kolla-ansible is without k8s | 15:17 |
| rhochmuth | well, one thing that might help development is creating a development process for a Docker install | 15:17 |
| witek_ | joadavis: yes :) | 15:17 |
| timothyb89 | the dev process is one of the goals for monasca-docker, mostly that needs documentation at this point :) | 15:18 |
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| rhochmuth | i think DevStack has always been a bit of a obstacle/barrier to developers getting involved with Monasca | 15:19 |
| rhochmuth | #topic no scalable opensource DB | 15:20 |
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| witek_ | right, nothing new, but painful | 15:20 |
| witek_ | just wanted to note that many people asked about it | 15:22 |
| kamil_ | Is this a seperate topic, or just a feedback from openstack summit? | 15:22 |
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| rhochmuth | other than some of the work that is continuing on with cassandra, i don't see any other grat alternatives, beyond influxdb | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | still the same topic | 15:22 |
| rhochmuth | kamil_ | 15:22 |
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| witek_ | and the last question group: will Monasa replace Ceilometer? | 15:23 |
| witek_ | Ceilometer API has been deprecated in Ocata | 15:23 |
| witek_ | also Gnocchi is moving out from OpenStack | 15:23 |
| joadavis | I think the differences from Ceilometer are a positive aspect. :) | 15:23 |
| rhochmuth | hmmm, the Ceilometer v2.0 api has been deprecated? | 15:24 |
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| joadavis | yes, still in for ocata and pike (so far) but marked as deprecated | 15:24 |
| dhague | ceilometer is more about routing events & metrics to the respective storage engines (gnocchi, panko) | 15:24 |
| dhague | so the API is gone, but the component is still there | 15:24 |
| agatea | gnocchi is moving out of openstack? | 15:25 |
| dhague | ceilometer serves a purpose for capturing audit events, although at SAP we are in the process of deprecating its usage anyway and just listening to oslo notifications with logstash | 15:25 |
| witek_ | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/114300.html | 15:25 |
| rhochmuth | so, i think ceilometer is still very useful to monasca in terms of data collection | 15:26 |
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| joadavis | (shameless plug) or we can have ceilometer push to monasca with ceilosca | 15:26 |
| dhague | I would agree, especially when coupled with oslo.kafka | 15:26 |
| dhague | +1 joadavis | 15:26 |
| agatea | thx witek! | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | the monasaca api can be used for metering/billing | 15:27 |
| dhague | main difference I see: ceilometer is for openstack admins, monasca is for openstack end-users as consumers | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | so, does this imply that metering/billing use cases in addition to monitoring would be best served by the monasca api? | 15:27 |
| rhochmuth | since ceilometer api is deprecated, and gnocchi is not part of openstack | 15:28 |
| jgu | +1 best servered by monasca api, rhochmuth | 15:29 |
| agatea | rhochmuth: yes that would the case | 15:29 |
| rhochmuth | i guess that seems like a reasonable position, since we were already doing this | 15:29 |
| dhague | I would argue that there is plenty in monasca's backlog without worrying about metering/billing, which (with auditing) is well served by ceilometer | 15:29 |
| witek_ | I think people will still use it, but projects such as cloudkitty want to integrate with Monasca too | 15:29 |
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| rhochmuth | it would be nice to see monasca integrate with cloudkitty, watcher, … | 15:31 |
| joadavis | talligent... | 15:32 |
| witek_ | rhochmuth: yes, I think we should follow-up on this | 15:32 |
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| rhochmuth | so, are there any next steps/actions for folks to work on | 15:33 |
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| witek_ | I want to follow-up with CloudKitty and Watcher | 15:33 |
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| rhochmuth | thanks witek_ | 15:34 |
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| witek_ | ok, to end the topic | 15:34 |
| rhochmuth | in addition, there is vitrage | 15:34 |
| witek_ | added the videos to the wiki page: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Monasca#Presentations | 15:35 |
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| rhochmuth | thanks witek_ | 15:35 |
| witek_ | :) | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | so let's move on to next topic | 15:35 |
| rhochmuth | we'll wait for updates from you on how your discussions go with watcher and cloudkitty | 15:36 |
| witek_ | thanks rhochmuth | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | but feel free to involve others | 15:36 |
| witek_ | sure | 15:36 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Create a pike branch for monasca-transform | 15:37 |
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| witek_ | I have missed that, there is no tag in that repo at all | 15:38 |
| agatea | monasca-transform hasnt had a branch created yet. Since pike-milestone-3 is coming up wanted to know what steps are needed to get it included | 15:38 |
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| rhochmuth | so, witek_, will you create a tag, or would you like agatea to create one? | 15:39 |
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| witek_ | yes, I can label a tag for you | 15:39 |
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| rhochmuth | thx witek_ | 15:40 |
| witek_ | and cut the branch | 15:40 |
| rhochmuth | agatea: while you are here, i just wanted to point out this, https://github.com/monasca/monasca-aggregator | 15:40 |
| witek_ | let's follow offline, and let me know which commit I should use | 15:40 |
| agatea | thanks witek_! we really appreciate it | 15:40 |
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| witek_ | also, which release type should it follow | 15:41 |
| agatea | rhochmuth: will take a look | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | thx | 15:41 |
| witek_ | cycle-with-intermediary as most of the other repos? | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | witek_: i think that makes sense | 15:41 |
| rhochmuth | #topic pike release | 15:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "pike release (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:43 | |
| rhochmuth | are there any updates in this area | 15:43 |
| witek_ | June 8 is milestone-2 | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | besides getting monasca-transform part of the release | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | so, i'm assuming that we are in good shape | 15:43 |
| rhochmuth | although, i'm wondering if we'll be able to make alarm silencing, inhibition and grouping in that time | 15:44 |
| witek_ | RC1 target week is Aug 07 - Aug 11 | 15:45 |
| rhochmuth | well, we should be able to make that date | 15:45 |
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| rhochmuth | so, sounds like we are on track, and no issues | 15:46 |
| rhochmuth | thx witek_ | 15:46 |
| witek_ | I haven't generated any issues :) | 15:46 |
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| rhochmuth | #topic Alarm silencing, inhibition and grouping update | 15:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Alarm silencing, inhibition and grouping update (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:47 | |
| rhochmuth | i just wanted to mention that this is nearing completion | 15:47 |
| rhochmuth | there are a bunch of reviews in flight | 15:47 |
| witek_ | could you give here the reference to reviews again? | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | i'll need to collate them seperately and provide directions | 15:48 |
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| witek_ | ok, thanks | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | i'll follow-up with andrea and send somethign out to the openstack-dev list | 15:48 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Grafana update | 15:49 |
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| rhochmuth | We've made some progress on gettign a SOW signed with Grafana Labs to add Keystone integration to the Grafana master/source | 15:50 |
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| rhochmuth | hopefully, that will get signed relatively soon | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | dhague: ^^^ | 15:51 |
| witek_ | wow, great news | 15:51 |
| rhochmuth | hopefully the contract/sow gets signed | 15:52 |
| rhochmuth | #topic Reviews that should be addressed? | 15:52 |
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| rhochmuth | besides the reviews we've discussed so far, are there any other reviews to consider | 15:52 |
| timothyb89 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461917/ will be good to go once the tests are passing | 15:53 |
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| rhochmuth | thx timothyb89 | 15:53 |
| rhochmuth | i'll take a look | 15:54 |
| rhochmuth | is there a way to get a screen shot of the notifications? | 15:54 |
| timothyb89 | I think I have one handy | 15:54 |
| witek_ | I have used them in the workshop in Boston | 15:55 |
| rhochmuth | not sure how to add that as a link to the review, but that might help show folks what this thing looks like | 15:55 |
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| timothyb89 | hm, apparently I don't have an image handy, but I will add it to the review :) | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | thx | 15:56 |
| rhochmuth | so, i guess that is it for today, unless there is a final topic in closing | 15:57 |
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| rhochmuth | thanks everyone | 15:58 |
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| witek_ | thank you | 15:58 |
| witek_ | bye | 15:58 |
| koji | thanks | 15:58 |
| agatea | bye thanks! | 15:59 |
| haruki | thanks bye | 15:59 |
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| rhochmuth | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 17 15:59:32 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-05-17-15.00.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-05-17-15.00.txt | 15:59 |
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| robcresswell | #startmeeting horizon | 20:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 17 20:06:41 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:06 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:06 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 20:06 |
| jeremy_moffitt | o/ | 20:06 |
| robcresswell | o/ | 20:06 |
| gary-smith | o/ | 20:06 |
| ying_zuo | o/ | 20:06 |
| gugl | o/ | 20:07 |
| david-lyle | which room did you start the meeting in this time? | 20:07 |
| robcresswell | Sorry for the lateness | 20:07 |
| robcresswell | The correct one, I'm just slow | 20:07 |
| robcresswell | Its my nature :) | 20:07 |
| david-lyle | I'll see if eddie can give back his new watch :P | 20:07 |
| robcresswell | #topic Notices | 20:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Notices (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:08 | |
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| robcresswell | So we had the summit last week, and there's a couple of sessions that we held that are worth mentioning here | 20:08 |
| robcresswell | We had a feedback session, with notes collected in | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/horizon-pike-feedback | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | If anyone has any further feedback, or colleagues working on Horizon, please tell them to add to it. I've been reviewing it and pushing fixes. About 1/3 of the items are already addressed. | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | There's also #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVPWHXDNtjc which is a great example of how not to introduce a talk. | 20:10 |
| robcresswell | (Its the Horizon Project Update talk) | 20:10 |
| robcresswell | So if you'd like a brief overview of progress, please check it out. | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | Anyone else got anything to add? | 20:11 |
| david-lyle | thanks for leading that session | 20:11 |
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| robcresswell | The feedback one? | 20:12 |
| david-lyle | feedback session that is | 20:12 |
| david-lyle | yeah | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | No problem :) I was quite pleased with how it went. Sounds like our upstream aims are quite aligned with downstreams expectations. | 20:12 |
| gugl | Thanks for the sessions info. It was nice meeting some of the horizon folks face to face. | 20:13 |
| ying_zuo | nice meeting you too :) | 20:13 |
| robcresswell | Yeah! Good to see people around. | 20:14 |
| david-lyle | +1 | 20:14 |
| gugl | :) | 20:14 |
| robcresswell | I was worried Horizon would be really quiet, but the sessions were pretty busy | 20:14 |
| robcresswell | #topic Open Discussion | 20:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:15 | |
| robcresswell | So there's no agenda items; we have an open floor | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | Please feel free to raise bugs, blueprints, stalled reviews etc | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | Or just ask general questions :) | 20:15 |
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| gary-smith | Since you asked, reviews on https://review.openstack.org/303625 would be appreciated. | 20:18 |
| gary-smith | (theming support) | 20:18 |
| robcresswell | Ah yeah, I'm familiar with this | 20:20 |
| robcresswell | Starred, since its being actively worked on, may as well get it moving | 20:20 |
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| robcresswell | Any others? | 20:20 |
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| robcresswell | Alright, I think we can end it there | 20:22 |
| robcresswell | Keep up the reviews everyone :D | 20:22 |
| robcresswell | #endmeeting | 20:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 17 20:23:01 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-05-17-20.06.html | 20:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-05-17-20.06.txt | 20:23 |
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| dansmith | #startmeeting nova_cells | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 17 21:00:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dansmith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 21:00 |
| melwitt | o/ | 21:00 |
| dansmith | man, crickets | 21:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 21:00 |
| mriedem | dtp is on vacation | 21:00 |
| dansmith | aight | 21:01 |
| dansmith | #topic cells testing / bugs | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "cells testing / bugs (Meeting topic: nova_cells)" | 21:01 | |
| dansmith | so, we have a bug, which I think goes back to newton, | 21:01 |
| dansmith | although more severe the closer you get to ocata | 21:01 |
| dansmith | which is a sort of db connection leak | 21:01 |
| dansmith | which melwitt has a patch up for | 21:01 |
| melwitt | yes, I opened dis https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1691545 | 21:01 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1691545 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Significant increase in DB connections with cells" [High,In progress] - Assigned to melanie witt (melwitt) | 21:01 |
| dansmith | since we don't need to worry about purging the list in older releases, I'd vote for making the change as tiny as possible | 21:02 |
| dansmith | agreed and/or did you already change it? | 21:02 |
| melwitt | already changed yes | 21:02 |
| dansmith | cool, I have outed myself as "has not looked yet" | 21:02 |
| mriedem | what do you mean by purging the list? | 21:02 |
| dansmith | mriedem: the cache invalidation todo | 21:03 |
| melwitt | like clearing the cache upon SIGHUP, is what I had before | 21:03 |
| melwitt | and yeah, I did summarize in the TODO | 21:03 |
| mriedem | why does that not matter in older releases? | 21:03 |
| dansmith | because we never dump any of the other lists of cells we have now | 21:03 |
| dansmith | like in compute/api | 21:03 |
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| dansmith | making this one dump will just be confusing and is more to backport | 21:03 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:04 |
| mriedem | so like with nova.compute.api.CELLS, | 21:04 |
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| dansmith | so, I'll go look at that when we're done here and hopefully we can get that landed soonly | 21:04 |
| mriedem | if you need to refresh it, you have to restart the services | 21:04 |
| dansmith | yeah, for now | 21:04 |
| mriedem | ok, release note with that? | 21:04 |
| dansmith | release note for no change? | 21:05 |
| dansmith | or for the bug fix? | 21:05 |
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| mriedem | release note for the fix plus the fact that if you need to refresh the cache, you have to restart the nova-api service(s) | 21:05 |
| mriedem | also, this is probably something to send to the operators list as a heads up, | 21:05 |
| mriedem | since they are rolling to newton, | 21:05 |
| dansmith | the restart thing is no different from the rest of the code, so calling it out seems confusing to me | 21:05 |
| dansmith | but a note for the fix makes sense | 21:06 |
| mriedem | and we've had at least two people say they are having perf issues in newton, and zzzeek made it sound like this was pretty bad | 21:06 |
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| melwitt | I guess we could surface info about the hidden caches in this rel note | 21:06 |
| dansmith | I don't think he understood what we were talking about when he said that | 21:06 |
| mriedem | we could put the restart thing in a cells FAQs in the devref | 21:06 |
| mriedem | which i'd like to start anyway, but havne't yet | 21:06 |
| dansmith | sure, documenting the general "new cells get picked up by a restart" in devref makes sense | 21:07 |
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| mriedem | ok i've got another bug if you're done with this one | 21:08 |
| dansmith | anything else on this? | 21:08 |
| dansmith | sure | 21:08 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464088/ | 21:08 |
| mriedem | is the fix for the upgrade thing with special characeters in the db connection url | 21:08 |
| mriedem | and simple_cell_setup effing those up for cell0 | 21:08 |
| dansmith | okay | 21:09 |
| dansmith | anything specific on that or just highlighting? | 21:09 |
| mriedem | just pointing it out, it's going to need to go back to newton also | 21:10 |
| dansmith | okay | 21:10 |
| dansmith | on the testing front, I've gotten my devstack multicell patch past the cellsv1 job now and tomorrow will start on the migration job | 21:11 |
| dansmith | aside from the migration job and a libvirt crash, I've got a good run on it against the nova tree | 21:11 |
| melwitt | noice | 21:11 |
| dansmith | so, soonish on that I think | 21:11 |
| dansmith | anything else on bugs/testing? | 21:11 |
| dansmith | #topic open reviews | 21:12 |
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| dansmith | melwitt: last I looked at your set, it had a bunch of jenkins -1s on ti | 21:12 |
| dansmith | *it | 21:12 |
| dansmith | your quotas set that is | 21:12 |
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| melwitt | that's all spurious gate failures. I do need to incorporate the feedback from the short summit discussion, to change all counts to dicts anyway though | 21:13 |
| dansmith | okay | 21:13 |
| melwitt | been busy with this db connection thing but next up is refreshing that set | 21:13 |
| dansmith | okay | 21:13 |
| dansmith | other than that, we landed the discover hosts fasterer thing due to help from mriedem | 21:13 |
| dansmith | so that's cool | 21:13 |
| melwitt | cool | 21:14 |
| dansmith | also my set for cellsv2 target fixes is in need of a booty call | 21:14 |
| dansmith | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:multi-cell-testing | 21:14 |
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| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458634/ scared me | 21:14 |
| dansmith | why? | 21:15 |
| mriedem | the turducken of context managers in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458634/10/nova/compute/api.py | 21:15 |
| dansmith | it's just a bunch of calling convention changes so the next patch can make it work | 21:15 |
| melwitt | all of that gets simpler after the quotas series also | 21:15 |
| mriedem | i haven't gone through it in detail yet | 21:15 |
| dansmith | right, | 21:15 |
| dansmith | it gets easier after quotas, | 21:15 |
| dansmith | and after the instance delete cleanup | 21:16 |
| dansmith | but it fixes real issues | 21:16 |
| dansmith | once you get to the context.py change | 21:16 |
| melwitt | k | 21:16 |
| dansmith | anyway | 21:16 |
| dansmith | anything else in open reviews? | 21:16 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461519/ and the one after it have a +2 | 21:16 |
| mriedem | alex was on them, but he's smashing bugs this week | 21:16 |
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| dansmith | okay I'll look at that too, sheesh | 21:17 |
| mriedem | not a huge rush on those | 21:17 |
| mriedem | they are mostly plumbing | 21:17 |
| dansmith | what else? | 21:17 |
| mriedem | that's all i know about | 21:17 |
| dansmith | cool | 21:18 |
| dansmith | #topic open discussion | 21:18 |
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| dansmith | anything here? | 21:18 |
| mriedem | yes! | 21:18 |
| dansmith | dammit. | 21:18 |
| melwitt | lol | 21:18 |
| mriedem | at some point here i have to do recaps of the summit sessions i ran, were you going to do that for the cells v2 session? if not, i can | 21:18 |
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| dansmith | I wasn't, but I can if you want | 21:19 |
| mriedem | up to you, i don't think there was a ton to recap, | 21:19 |
| mriedem | compromise on passing hosts to cells for retries | 21:19 |
| dansmith | only two topics really | 21:19 |
| dansmith | yeah | 21:19 |
| mriedem | and you add that auto-disable thing | 21:19 |
| dansmith | anyway, I'll plan to do that on friday or something | 21:20 |
| melwitt | sanity check, the retry behavior is no different than in cells v1 right? retries stay in a cell I thought | 21:20 |
| dansmith | melwitt: definitely | 21:20 |
| melwitt | k. just making sure since I told someone that today | 21:20 |
| melwitt | cool | 21:21 |
| dansmith | heh | 21:21 |
| dansmith | and if you don't have separated conductors then you can reschedule across cells in v2 | 21:21 |
| dansmith | we just need to work when we don't | 21:21 |
| dansmith | okay, anything else? | 21:21 |
| mriedem | nope | 21:21 |
| dansmith | we're about seven minutes over time, so if there's nothing else... | 21:21 |
| dansmith | #endmeeting with extreme prejudice | 21:22 |
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