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| gcb | #startmeeting oslo | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 5 14:00:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gcb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 14:00 |
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| gcb | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, crushil, dansmith, dhellmann | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for dims, dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for GheRivero, haypo, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for kragniz, lhx_, lifeless, lxsli, Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for redrobot, rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek | 14:00 |
| crushil | \o | 14:00 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 14:00 |
| ansmith | o/ | 14:00 |
| amrith | gcb, hello. i have to head out, can't attend today. no red flags from trove | 14:00 |
| gcb | welcome everyone \o/ | 14:00 |
| gcb | amrith: thanks | 14:01 |
| gcb | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:01 | |
| gcb | http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/?groupKey=build_name&resolutionKey=hour&searchProject=-with-oslo | 14:01 |
| gcb | There is no redflag from me | 14:01 |
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| gcb | there is a oslo.messaging issue when using 'blocking' executor , sileht and kgiusti have been working on it | 14:03 |
| gcb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1694728 | 14:03 |
| gcb | #topic Releases for Pike | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases for Pike (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:04 | |
| gcb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470861/ | 14:04 |
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| gcb | as dhellmann suggested, we will release stable branch release in Pike-2 milestone | 14:05 |
| gcb | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:06 | |
| gcb | Is there any stuck reviews ? | 14:06 |
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| kgiusti | gcb: should we hold off releasing oslo.messaging until sileht's patches merge? | 14:07 |
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| gcb | kgiusti: the bug only affects 'blocking' executor, we can request a new release once sileht's patches merge | 14:08 |
| gcb | what do you think ? | 14:09 |
| kgiusti | gcb: one sec... | 14:09 |
| gcb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470861/ was just merged .... | 14:09 |
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| kgiusti | gcb: kk - then let's do a new release when the blocking fix lands (and nobody sees any new issues from it) | 14:10 |
| gcb | kgiusti: yeah, dhellman is our oslo release liaison, please add him as reviewer when I'm not available | 14:12 |
| kgiusti | gcb: +1 | 14:12 |
| gcb | kgiusti: that will quicken the release process :-) | 14:13 |
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| gcb | #topic Open discussion | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:14 | |
| gcb | anybody have items to raise here ? | 14:14 |
| * gcb gcb still at the office, will go home later | 14:16 | |
| gcb | please feel free to discuss in the #openstack-oslo | 14:17 |
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| gcb | thanks everyone, sorry for the quick meeting today | 14:17 |
| gcb | #endmeeting | 14:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:18 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 5 14:18:25 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-06-05-14.00.html | 14:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-06-05-14.00.txt | 14:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-06-05-14.00.log.html | 14:18 |
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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 5 15:00:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| rakhmerov | hello | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 15:00 |
| thrash | o/ | 15:00 |
| rakhmerov | hi ) | 15:00 |
| toure | hello | 15:00 |
| fultonj | hi | 15:00 |
| mgershen | o/ | 15:00 |
| d0ugal | Hey | 15:00 |
| rakhmerov | hi all | 15:01 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Review action items | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review action items (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:01 | |
| rakhmerov | 1. rakhmerov: review https://review.openstack.org/443217 again | 15:01 |
| rakhmerov | I think it's done but let me check.. | 15:01 |
| rakhmerov | yes, done | 15:01 |
| toure | yup | 15:01 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 15:02 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:02 | |
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| rakhmerov | my status: reviews, Java Client for Mistral (OpenStack4J), fixed a couple of small things, and started working on HA & Scalability | 15:02 |
| toure | rakhmerov I think there may be a refactor of the cli name, but other than that it should be done | 15:03 |
| rakhmerov | the spec was submitted today: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470928/ | 15:03 |
| thrash | rakhmerov: I am discontinuing work on the securing secrets bp. There are some technical challenges to it that I don't have time right now to overcome. | 15:03 |
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| mgershen | status: Just created the next spec from creating and running a workflow within a namespace: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470996/ | 15:03 |
| rakhmerov | toure: ok, please don't hesitate to remove [WIP] from your patches if you think they are ready | 15:04 |
| d0ugal | Nothing to report from me, I have been tied up with TripleO tasks and have not had time to continue the mistral-lib/mistral-extra work. I hope to get back to it soon, but I am concerned about deadlines | 15:04 |
| toure | rakhmerov ack, almost there | 15:04 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: ooh, I haven't seen it yet | 15:04 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov: review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470996/ | 15:04 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: ok | 15:04 |
| thrash | rakhmerov: as I currently see it, it would be a bunch of work to effectively redact a secret in about 4 places in the code. And most of those places would involve doing a db lookup | 15:04 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: what deadlines do you mean? | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | Pike-2? | 15:05 |
| mgershen | I published it less than 15 minutes ago | 15:05 |
| thrash | which seems rather pointless to me... A db lookup for a log message | 15:05 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: yeah, originally I wanted to have the OpenStack actions ported for pike-2 | 15:05 |
| toure | status: Testing server side workflow error analysis changes, once done will remove WIP and let all take a look | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | thrash: have you left comments in the patch so we could see? | 15:05 |
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| rakhmerov | d0ugal: Pike-3 would be ok, no worries | 15:06 |
| rakhmerov | but we need to do it in Pike | 15:06 |
| rakhmerov | for many reasons | 15:06 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: Yup, I am now aiming for that - but I have 2 weeks that I am away. I might see if I can recruit a helper :) | 15:06 |
| thrash | rakhmerov: I have some made locally... I'll push it up... | 15:07 |
| rakhmerov | thrash: at the moment, I'm now aware of these challenges although I would assume that the whole task is not easy to deal with | 15:07 |
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| thrash | rakhmerov: that it is. :D | 15:07 |
| rakhmerov | thrash: yeah, please try to leave all needed info so that we could continue at least discussing it | 15:07 |
| d0ugal | +1, some record of learnings would be useful. | 15:08 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: ok ) | 15:08 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 15:08 |
| rakhmerov | thrash: just to inspire you a little bit: I can remember 3-4 people who tried to tackle this task and all gave up ) | 15:08 |
| thrash | rakhmerov: That's depressing. :| | 15:09 |
| d0ugal | haha | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | :)) | 15:09 |
| thrash | hehe | 15:09 |
| toure | hahaha | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | I mean no worries ) | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | we'll eventually get it done | 15:09 |
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| thrash | I guess I don't feel so stupid anymore. lol | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | no doubts :) | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | yeah, that's that I tried to do! | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | so that you don't feel stupid | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | ook | 15:10 |
| rakhmerov | anything else in this part? | 15:10 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: ^ | 15:10 |
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| rbrady | rakhmerov: I have been working with thrash and have come to the same conclusion | 15:10 |
| rakhmerov | haha :)) | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | got it | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | (why did I type it twice, hm...?) | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | let me see what's next | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Sync on Pike 2 progress | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sync on Pike 2 progress (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:12 | |
| rakhmerov | so, here basically I just would like to ask you to wrap up what's possible this week | 15:12 |
| rakhmerov | and pay a little more attention to reviewing | 15:12 |
| rakhmerov | and if you need help with something please don't be silent | 15:12 |
| rakhmerov | and update statuses of you tasks please anyway so that we could see where we are | 15:13 |
| rakhmerov | I did some of that today but not all | 15:13 |
| rakhmerov | there's also a couple of BPs that I'd like to clarify with rbrady, d0ugal and apetrich | 15:14 |
| rakhmerov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-actions-api-fix-engine | 15:14 |
| rakhmerov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-actions-api-fix-executor | 15:14 |
| rakhmerov | I asked apetrich to update them but he's off today I guess | 15:14 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: I am not sure what "fix engine" means? Just to migrate them to mistral-lib? | 15:14 |
| rakhmerov | so | 15:14 |
| rakhmerov | those BPs were created long long ago | 15:15 |
| rakhmerov | once upon a time... Renat created blueprints.. | 15:15 |
| d0ugal | https://github.com/openstack/mistral-specs/blob/master/specs/newton/approved/mistral-custom-actions-api.rst#work-items | 15:15 |
| d0ugal | haha | 15:15 |
| mgershen | haha | 15:15 |
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| rakhmerov | the idea was that after creating mistral-lib with all needed stuff we'd make changes on the server side whatever is needed | 15:16 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 15:16 |
| rakhmerov | in engine possible and executor | 15:16 |
| rakhmerov | that was my understanding | 15:16 |
| d0ugal | Right. I think at the time we expected mistral-lib to be much large (containing the context etc.) | 15:16 |
| d0ugal | but I'm glad we didn't go down that route | 15:16 |
| d0ugal | so I think we can consider these to be completed. | 15:16 |
| rakhmerov | but I guess they may not be relevant anymore and we can close them | 15:16 |
| rakhmerov | as far as engine, I left a comment in whiteboard | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | I found a patch that seems to implement this BP | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | for executor, I'm not sure | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | I remember that we inserted some condition to check if the action is from mistral-lib or not | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: was it you who made it? | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | so, I'm just wondering whether it's enough or not | 15:18 |
| rakhmerov | for executor | 15:18 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: the patch you linked? no, that was apetrich | 15:18 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: but yes, I think it is enough | 15:18 |
| rakhmerov | no-no, I'm now talking about executor | 15:18 |
| rakhmerov | second.. | 15:18 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: this, https://github.com/openstack/mistral/blob/master/mistral/executors/default_executor.py#L109 | 15:19 |
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| d0ugal | rakhmerov: right | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | does it seem all we had to do in there? | 15:19 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: I believe so, we just need to leave that there until we can remove the old actions API | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | sorry, I just lost track of this work a little bit.. | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | right | 15:20 |
| d0ugal | I'm not sure how long the deprecation is for a change like that | 15:20 |
| rakhmerov | which will happen in a couple of cycles I believe.. not earlier | 15:20 |
| d0ugal | yup | 15:20 |
| rakhmerov | first we need to gently deprecate old stuff and bring it to our lovely users | 15:20 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: I would think it's in our interest to make it long ) | 15:21 |
| rakhmerov | but yes, we need to figure out | 15:21 |
| rakhmerov | #action: rakhmerov, d0ugal: figure out for how long old actions should be deprecated before complete removal | 15:21 |
| rakhmerov | okay | 15:22 |
| rakhmerov | they I'm closing them? Marking "implemented"? | 15:22 |
| rakhmerov | then.. | 15:22 |
| d0ugal | thanks | 15:22 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:22 |
| d0ugal | that works for me | 15:22 |
| rakhmerov | with these two implemented the situation looks much more positive ) | 15:23 |
| rakhmerov | for Pike 2 | 15:23 |
| d0ugal | :-D | 15:23 |
| rakhmerov | yeah, sorry, I just have this kind of mood today ) | 15:23 |
| apetrich | rakhmerov, d0ugal sorry. still sick.. I wasn't able to concentrate enough to read the blueprint | 15:24 |
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| rakhmerov | apetrich: we've discussed them a little bit and seems like they can be closed | 15:24 |
| rakhmerov | but if you look at them tomorrow and disagree we can reopen them, np | 15:24 |
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| rakhmerov | thanks | 15:24 |
| apetrich | rakhmerov, I only think that we have to move some Results from mistral to mistral_lib. I have those changes but didn't create a patch because the gates were still failing | 15:25 |
| apetrich | but it is a simple change | 15:25 |
| apetrich | on openstack actions | 15:25 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:25 |
| rakhmerov | the gates were fixed today | 15:25 |
| rakhmerov | we had issues with docs but it's ok now | 15:26 |
| rakhmerov | anything else on that? | 15:26 |
| apetrich | rakhmerov, I don't think so. besides that I think we can close it | 15:26 |
| rakhmerov | there's also a bunch of bugs, please take a look and see what can be quickly fixed (what's assigned to you) and what we need to move to P-3 | 15:26 |
| rakhmerov | apetrich: ok, thanks | 15:27 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: like, for example https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1664612 | 15:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1664612 in Mistral "tasks with a hyphen in their name don't work" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Dougal Matthews (d0ugal) | 15:27 |
| d0ugal | oh, wow. I forgot about that one | 15:27 |
| rakhmerov | I might have asked you but it's worth checking again if it really exists | 15:28 |
| d0ugal | I thought I fixed it actually, but I should check. | 15:28 |
| rakhmerov | yeah, I'm not sure it exists but we need to update the status | 15:28 |
| rakhmerov | at least | 15:28 |
| rakhmerov | please go over them and check | 15:28 |
| d0ugal | Will do | 15:28 |
| rakhmerov | thanks | 15:28 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's move on | 15:28 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Decide if new release model "cycle-with-intermediary" is ok for Mistral | 15:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Decide if new release model "cycle-with-intermediary" is ok for Mistral (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:29 | |
| rakhmerov | yeah, so, there is a ML thread opened recently | 15:29 |
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| rakhmerov | about release model for several projects including Mistral | 15:29 |
| rakhmerov | the problem is that 'mistral' is in reqiurements.txt in tripleO | 15:30 |
| d0ugal | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/117658.html | 15:30 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: right? (still trying to understand that myself) | 15:30 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: yes, that is the problem | 15:30 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:30 |
| d0ugal | Mistral is in requirements, that means it is treated like a library but it is only released at the end of the cycle | 15:31 |
| d0ugal | this means that the requirements in mistral limit the requirements in other projects | 15:31 |
| rakhmerov | as a solution Thierry suggested us to switch to a different release model: cycle-with-intermediary | 15:31 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 15:31 |
| rakhmerov | exactly | 15:31 |
| rakhmerov | cycle-with-intermediary does not assume having beta releases at all | 15:31 |
| rakhmerov | like mistral-5.0.0.0b1 | 15:32 |
| rakhmerov | but only full releases (without letters) | 15:32 |
| rakhmerov | which means all of them must be stable | 15:32 |
| d0ugal | AFAICT with cycle-with-intermediary, we can release stable releases at any point | 15:32 |
| rakhmerov | stable branch management remains the same, one per cycle, of course | 15:32 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 15:32 |
| rakhmerov | we talked today a little bit and it seems like the problem of having 'mistral' in TripleO dependencies may be gone soon | 15:33 |
| rakhmerov | but anyway, we can make a decision to switch to this release model | 15:33 |
| rakhmerov | 1) to me it seems more flexible | 15:34 |
| d0ugal | so, if we made a release today, would it be 5.0? | 15:34 |
| rakhmerov | 2) all our releases are considered stable | 15:34 |
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| rakhmerov | good question, probably yes | 15:34 |
| d0ugal | and then after pike is released we would start to release 6.0 | 15:34 |
| rakhmerov | the thing is that this week is the last chance to make that decision | 15:34 |
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| rakhmerov | after pike-2 we'll have to wait till the next cycle | 15:34 |
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| d0ugal | I have one concern... | 15:35 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yes, the docs don't say anything about numbers for release but we can do something like that | 15:35 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yep? | 15:35 |
| d0ugal | Mistral master is developed against KeyStone master for auth and all the other openstack projects | 15:35 |
| d0ugal | so if we released 5.0 today, we might have a stable release that only works with unreleased projects | 15:36 |
| d0ugal | so we release 5.0 today (or soon) which will be Pike but that needs to be tested against Ocata | 15:36 |
| d0ugal | Does that make sense? I only just thought of it. | 15:37 |
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| rakhmerov | hm.. | 15:37 |
| rakhmerov | good question | 15:37 |
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| rakhmerov | but that's probably ok that intermediary releases work with keystone of full release of the previous cycle | 15:38 |
| rakhmerov | what are other options? | 15:38 |
| rakhmerov | in any case, we're supposed to make a normal release at the end of the cycle | 15:39 |
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| rakhmerov | but that release will be integrated with the latest changes in other projects | 15:39 |
| rakhmerov | that's my understanding | 15:39 |
| d0ugal | right | 15:39 |
| d0ugal | I just think it will be confusing for our users if we tell them they need to install mistral, but not the latest version - the one that matches the latest OpenStack release | 15:40 |
| d0ugal | we already need to tell them to avoit 2015.1 :( | 15:40 |
| rakhmerov | well, yeah.. | 15:40 |
| rakhmerov | true | 15:40 |
| d0ugal | I think it probably makes more sense to remove Mistral from requirements.txt - we will do that anyway | 15:41 |
| rakhmerov | well, ok, maybe what we need to understand for now then is how critical it is for solving that dependency issue | 15:41 |
| rakhmerov | if it's not I think we need to wait for next cycle | 15:41 |
| d0ugal | right | 15:42 |
| d0ugal | I guess I'll reply to the thread and ask some questions | 15:42 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yes, but the question is: how urgent is it? | 15:42 |
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| rakhmerov | and when can we do it in TripleO? | 15:42 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yes, let's do this | 15:42 |
| rakhmerov | just not to rush with this.. | 15:42 |
| d0ugal | tripleo only needs it in requirements.txt for the unit tests :) | 15:42 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: so, as far as I understand, it's not a risky change, you just need to make it? right? | 15:43 |
| rakhmerov | I mean, technically there's no risk | 15:43 |
| rakhmerov | all is clear | 15:43 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: agreed, there is no risk. | 15:43 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:43 |
| rakhmerov | then please reply to the thread, I'd prefer not to rush | 15:44 |
| d0ugal | ok | 15:44 |
| rakhmerov | especially that I now remember Thierry saying that he'd prefer to give Mistral an exception of switching the model in the middle of the cycle ) | 15:44 |
| rakhmerov | usually it's forbidden, only in the beginning | 15:45 |
| rakhmerov | before first milestone releaes | 15:45 |
| rakhmerov | ok, deal | 15:45 |
| rakhmerov | if there's no other thoughts.. | 15:45 |
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| rakhmerov | so then | 15:47 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Open Discussion | 15:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:47 | |
| rakhmerov | is there anything else from you? | 15:47 |
| d0ugal | Not from me | 15:47 |
| rbrady | not from me today | 15:48 |
| mgershen | not from me | 15:48 |
| rakhmerov | ok, many thanks | 15:48 |
| thrash | no | 15:48 |
| rakhmerov | please update the tickets | 15:48 |
| rakhmerov | thanks | 15:48 |
| rakhmerov | then let's finish | 15:48 |
| rakhmerov | have a good week, thanks for being with us today | 15:48 |
| rakhmerov | bye | 15:48 |
| mgershen | Bye | 15:48 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 15:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:49 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 5 15:49:03 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-06-05-15.00.html | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-06-05-15.00.txt | 15:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-06-05-15.00.log.html | 15:49 |
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| dtantsur | anyone up for an ironic meeting? | 16:59 |
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| dtantsur | #startmeeting ironic | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 5 17:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtantsur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:00 |
| mjturek | o/ | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 17:00 |
| rloo | o/ | 17:00 |
| nicodemos | o/ | 17:00 |
| TheJulia | o/ | 17:00 |
| stendulker | o/ | 17:00 |
| NobodyCam | o/ | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | hi everyone! welcome to our small ironic part...serious meeting :) | 17:00 |
| fellypefca | o/ | 17:01 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | our very light agenda is as usual at | 17:01 |
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| dtantsur | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 17:01 |
| mjturek | :) | 17:01 |
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| izumi777 | o/ | 17:02 |
| baha | o/ | 17:02 |
| dtantsur | #topic Announcements / Reminder | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements / Reminder (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:02 | |
| dtantsur | we've had an IPA intermediary release | 17:03 |
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| crushil | \o | 17:03 |
| rpioso | o/ | 17:03 |
| dtantsur | our stable releases are still pending with 2x +2, I guess I need to ping someone (ttx?) to proceed with them | 17:03 |
| dtantsur | finally, this is the weak of Pike-2. I don't plan on any releases of ironic, just something to keep in mind. | 17:04 |
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| rama_y | o/ | 17:04 |
| ricardoas | o/ | 17:04 |
| dtantsur | anything else from anyone? | 17:04 |
| krtaylor | o/ | 17:04 |
| TheJulia | Nothing here | 17:05 |
| dtantsur | ok, moving on | 17:05 |
| dtantsur | #topic Review subteam status reports (capped at ten minutes) | 17:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review subteam status reports (capped at ten minutes) (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:05 | |
| dtantsur | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard starting with line 94 | 17:06 |
| rloo | dtantsur: the critical bug, is that the ironic-lib one? | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | rloo: yes | 17:06 |
| rloo | sigh, and 4 more high bugs :-( | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | so yeah, I've broken the ironic-lib CI, sorry for that | 17:06 |
| rloo | dtantsur: thx | 17:06 |
| rloo | dtantsur: you break, you pay for it :-) | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | I'm working on making it building IPA from source to actually test ironic-lib changes | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | and I'm still figuring out zuul-pbr-tinyipa interactions | 17:07 |
| dtantsur | rloo: we're ready to review the version column again, right? | 17:07 |
| rloo | dtantsur: yes, although i have a patch updating the spec. might be worth reading/agreeing with that first. | 17:08 |
| xavierr | o/ | 17:08 |
| rloo | dtantsur: or review the patch and if you understand it w/o the spec update, that means it is good :) | 17:08 |
| dtantsur | rloo: yeah, I have it starred in gerrit, just did not get to actuall reviewing | 17:08 |
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| mgoddard_ | o/ | 17:08 |
| dtantsur | #info OSC driver-properties command spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439907/ has 2x +2 and is ready for landing | 17:09 |
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| dtantsur | stendulker: hi! when updating the rescue section, please change the date, so that we know *when* the status was last updated | 17:09 |
| sauloaislan | o/ | 17:09 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: any plans to update the IPA API version code soon(ish)? | 17:10 |
| rloo | dtantsur: well, maybe that really was the status for 4/10... | 17:10 |
| stendulker | dtantsur: ok. | 17:10 |
| dtantsur | rloo: no, there was new stuff added | 17:10 |
| dtantsur | stendulker: thanks! | 17:10 |
| stendulker | dtantsur: thank you, | 17:11 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: yeah I need to do that I've not had a chance since the spec merges | 17:11 |
| sambetts | merged* | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | ack, updating the status | 17:12 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: do you know if we need to do something in ironic for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1658964 ? | 17:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1658964 in Ironic "[RFE] Implement neutron routed networks support in Ironic" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sam Betts (sambetts) | 17:12 |
| rloo | dtantsur: wrt cross-project. there was a thread last? week about install guides, do you know if we need to do anything there (agree, disagree, whatever)? | 17:12 |
| dtantsur | rloo: I don't think there was action items coming out of it | 17:13 |
| dtantsur | but I guess we'll have all the guides in-tree eventually | 17:13 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: main thing is the physnet awareness, then I have some experimentation to do regarding neutron + agents + placement etc | 17:13 |
| dtantsur | that's more or less inevitable, the exact way is still shaping | 17:13 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: but that's a separate RFE, no? | 17:13 |
| rloo | dtantsur: ok. to be honest, i didn't read it, all i know it was something about intree/out of tree, and putting them all under some common dir intree | 17:13 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: yeah, well, we have almost all our docs intree now, so better support for that would be great | 17:14 |
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| sambetts | dtantsur: correct, there are changes in networking-baremetal related routed networks, but not in ironic (as far as I'm aware so far) | 17:14 |
| dtantsur | yeah, we need a proper user-guide, as now our user-guide is spread between install-guide and dev docs | 17:14 |
| rloo | dtantsur: i think we wanted an admin guide... | 17:14 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: so, can we close this RFE and remove it from the statuses? | 17:14 |
| dtantsur | rloo: right | 17:15 |
| mgoddard_ | sambetts: did you look into what jroll was saying about physnet scheduling for routed networks not working with ironic due to the nova compute service/host mismatch? | 17:15 |
| rloo | stendulker: wrt rescue, is the status updated? | 17:16 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: around? I wonder if we still plan on splitting the tempest plugin. if so, let's get a plan on doing it (maybe as part of today's discussions) | 17:16 |
| rloo | dtantsur: jlvillal still on vacation | 17:16 |
| dtantsur | ah, ok | 17:16 |
| rloo | dtantsur: he is back next week | 17:16 |
| sambetts | mgoddard_: yeah, I had loads of disucssions about it at the summit, and it turns out the aggregates that are used for routed networks are placement service aggregates which != nova host aggregates, and the placement aggregate operate per baremetal node | 17:17 |
| dtantsur | cool, thanks rloo | 17:17 |
| sambetts | mgoddard_: not just per nova compute | 17:17 |
| sambetts | mgoddard_: so \o/ | 17:17 |
| * dtantsur is super confused by all these aggregates and the placement changes | 17:17 | |
| mgoddard_ | sambetts: ok, that's good to know | 17:17 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: how are we tracking networking-baremetal work? and there is some stuff I'd like to discuss about whether it lives in networking-baremetal or in ironic as a periodic task | 17:17 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: I wonder if we (as in "you" ;) can have some knowledge sharing about recent nova stuff | 17:17 |
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| dtantsur | sambetts: we are not particularly tracking it so far. mostly because less than a half of people here understand it well | 17:18 |
| * TheJulia looks at the clock | 17:18 | |
| dtantsur | suggestions are welcome, I highly encourage someone to take initiative | 17:18 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: sure, jaypipes gave some great talks at the summit to bring people up to speed too, I wonder if we can get hold of those recordings/slides to help people understand | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: you're right; but these are good discussions | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | :) | 17:18 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: absolutely ;) | 17:18 |
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| dtantsur | sambetts: mind asking him please? | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | we're out of time indeed, let's reserve "how to track networking-baremetal work" to the discussions | 17:19 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: I'll ping him and see if we can dig them out | 17:19 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: and I feel like we need a map, or a kanban board, or something for all the networking stuff at this point. | 17:19 |
| * TheJulia will settle for ether pad too | 17:19 | |
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| dtantsur | yeah | 17:19 |
| dtantsur | everyone done with the statuses? | 17:19 |
| dtantsur | we need to agree on priorities, and then we can jump back into discussing cool stuff :) | 17:19 |
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| * dtantsur will assume "yes" really soon | 17:20 | |
| * rloo done except for rescue but stendulker hasn't replied | 17:20 | |
| dtantsur | #topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week | 17:20 |
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| dtantsur | so, we've landed two documentation patches, thanks all for reviews | 17:21 |
| dtantsur | the OSC spec is really, really close | 17:21 |
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| NobodyCam | great work on the doc patches! | 17:21 |
| dtantsur | ++ | 17:21 |
| dtantsur | should we take the version column back? | 17:21 |
| rloo | ++ :) | 17:21 |
| TheJulia | so, re BFV priority, I completely missed the meeting last week, and I guess I'm the designated victim (wait, is that right?) to update that patch this week, but I wouldn't have it as #1 at the moment. | 17:22 |
| rloo | dtantsur: do you think the spec update should be approved first? | 17:22 |
| dtantsur | mmm, we can do it in parallel, hopefully | 17:22 |
| dtantsur | rloo: do you have a link handy? | 17:22 |
| rloo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469940/ | 17:22 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: to be honest, I'm worried about BFV. we have so much stuff ahead. I'd keep pushing on it, if we still hope for Pike. | 17:23 |
| dtantsur | thanks rloo | 17:23 |
| rloo | when's the nova deadline for feature code? | 17:23 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: likewise :( | 17:23 |
| dtantsur | rloo: Pike-3 IIRC | 17:24 |
| mjturek | TheJulia: would it help if I took over the wire-in patch or you good? | 17:24 |
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| TheJulia | mjturek: if you have the bandwidth, that would help me a lot. | 17:24 |
| rloo | dtantsur: week of july 24. we have a bit over 1 month. | 17:24 |
| mjturek | TheJulia: will do | 17:24 |
| dtantsur | rloo: yeah, which leaves us really no time, unless we land the whole ironic part in 2-3 weeks.. | 17:25 |
| rloo | dtantsur: well, we have maybe at most 1 month. ironic code for bfv needs to work before nova will look at the nova patch and that needs to land by week of july 24. | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | I mean, my optimistic hope is to finish ironic and ironicclient bits | 17:25 |
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| stendulker | rloo: lost connection. rescue status is updated. | 17:25 |
| rloo | thx stendulker | 17:25 |
| rloo | TheJulia, mjturek: you think it is doable? ^^ | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | mjturek: thanks, that's awesome! we're getting good pace, let's keep it :) | 17:25 |
| mjturek | :) | 17:26 |
| TheJulia | rloo: if we have sufficient review bandwidth and get revisions updated quickly, I think so. | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | derekh (on holidays today) seems to get some progress with testing | 17:26 |
| rloo | TheJulia: thx. | 17:26 |
| mjturek | rloo: I think so. I know that derekh was able to boot from volume with the current code | 17:27 |
| dtantsur | "have sufficient review bandwidth" is the reason I want it on the priority list | 17:27 |
| TheJulia | mjturek: that is music to my ears | 17:27 |
| mjturek | :) | 17:27 |
| rloo | so is bfv the 'highest' priority cuz of nova? are there other features that need nova changes too? | 17:28 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: makes sense, I really can't be one to review my own code, but I can tackle other stuff :) | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | rloo: it matches the current priorities order | 17:28 |
| rloo | the network stuff worries me too. maybe we should put one of those patches for this week. | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | rloo: but I don't care about relative order too much, to be honest | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | rloo: I'm all for it, given that the OSC spec is nearly done. | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | does anyone has a patch in mind for ^^^? | 17:29 |
| * SotK will keep it similar | 17:29 | |
| SotK | sorry, wrong window :/ | 17:29 |
| rloo | dtantsur: i think the pyhsical network awareness stuff is needed | 17:29 |
| rloo | dtantsur: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461301/ is first in series | 17:29 |
| rloo | sambetts: ^^ is that your understanding? | 17:30 |
| rloo | mgoddard_: ^^ ? | 17:30 |
| sambetts | +1 that would be a great series to start, I think its a pretty straight forward model and API change for ports | 17:30 |
| mgoddard_ | rloo: that's correct | 17:30 |
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| dtantsur | ok, it's there. how does the list look now? | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | are we ok with landing the API bits even if they're not wired in? | 17:31 |
| sambetts | not sure what you mean not wired in? | 17:31 |
| dtantsur | I'm not sure either :) what will happen if users put stuff to the new fields/tables? | 17:32 |
| * TheJulia wonders which patches exactly | 17:32 | |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: I'm talking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461301/ | 17:32 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: I believe it'll influence how their neutron ports are mapped onto phyiscal interfaces | 17:32 |
| rloo | dtantsur: that patch isn't API; it is db change I think | 17:33 |
| dtantsur | ooops | 17:33 |
| * dtantsur is stupid | 17:33 | |
| dtantsur | thanks rloo, you're right | 17:33 |
| sambetts | yup, its a classic 3 part patch, DB first, Conductor, then API | 17:33 |
| mgoddard_ | until later patches are merged there should be no effects, even if the user modifies the DB | 17:33 |
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| dtantsur | ok, any more objections to the list? | 17:33 |
| rloo | dtantsur: i think sambetts mentioned API, but I think he was referring to the entire feature :-) | 17:33 |
| dtantsur | ack :) | 17:33 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: none | 17:33 |
| rloo | list looks good to me | 17:34 |
| dtantsur | ok, let's move on? | 17:34 |
| mgoddard_ | this one modifies the VIF attachment algorithm, which is where things change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470406/1 | 17:34 |
| dtantsur | thanks mgoddard_ | 17:34 |
| dtantsur | #topic Open discussion | 17:34 |
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| dtantsur | sambetts: do you want to discuss what we do with networking-baremetal? | 17:34 |
| dtantsur | I personally like what the BFV subteam does with their etherpad and a separate meeting | 17:35 |
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| sambetts | yeah I think we can start that stuff again to cover the new features | 17:35 |
| sambetts | not sure if we need a meeting or not yet | 17:35 |
| TheJulia | Well, we kind of already have a meeting slot, it is just not actively meeting :) | 17:36 |
| sambetts | my main question is how are we managing the code that is living in networking-baremetal | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: for networking? | 17:36 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: yeah, neutron integration specifically | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | mmm, we should use it then | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: wdym by "managing" here? | 17:36 |
| NobodyCam | dtantsur: saw the comment on my RFE for not adding ports, Thank you. and just a quick thought on none vs noadd I picked NoAdd so it would be confused with the python None in a conf file. | 17:36 |
| rloo | TheJulia: we had that meeting; do we still have the slot? It used to be before this meeting i think. | 17:36 |
| sambetts | RFE's reviews, releases etc etc | 17:37 |
| dtantsur | NobodyCam: good call, hmmm. "disabled"? | 17:37 |
| TheJulia | rloo: we still have it, it was still on eavesdrop last time I looked a few weeks ago | 17:37 |
| NobodyCam | dtantsur: ++ that works! | 17:37 |
| rloo | TheJulia: good | 17:37 |
| TheJulia | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Ironic/neutron_Integration_team_meeting | 17:37 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: releases are simple: the release team is doing them with the help of the release liaison and the PTL | 17:37 |
| rloo | TheJulia: we should probably put it/link back on our meetings page. | 17:37 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: I have internal conflicts for this slot :( | 17:38 |
| dtantsur | well, people can meet without me obvoiusly | 17:38 |
| TheJulia | I am happy to attend, as long as I'm not on a plane | 17:38 |
| rloo | sukhdev was chairing that meeting. do we want neutron folks there, or is this to get our/ironic act together? | 17:38 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: RFE reviews, I think, should happen in this meeting. we even have a topic for that. | 17:38 |
| TheJulia | rloo: I think it is get our act together | 17:39 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: do they go into launchpad/ironic? | 17:39 |
| sambetts | or their own project? | 17:39 |
| TheJulia | rloo: we can always adjust the meeting title | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: we tend to have launchpad projects per project | 17:39 |
| rloo | TheJulia: in that case, we should pick a time where dtantsur can attend. | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: it depends on the project-config configuration for this repo. we can check after the meeting | 17:39 |
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| rloo | sambetts: where does networking-baremetal live? (under neutron, under ironic, under ?) | 17:40 |
| sambetts | rloo: under ironic | 17:40 |
| sambetts | i think (although thats another question I had) | 17:40 |
| rloo | sambetts: ok, so we treat it like we treat all/most of the other projects under ironic | 17:40 |
| rloo | sambetts: ha ha, so we're not sure. that's probably the first question to answer then. | 17:40 |
| sambetts | I think it should live under Ironic because I believe there will be things in there soon that might become hard requirements to make ironic+neutron work | 17:41 |
| rloo | sambetts: are we the only project to ahve this? I thought nova or some other project had a similar thing. networking-baremetal is the plugin for neutron, right? | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | sambetts, rloo, it's under ironic: https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/771e492a997c528f60019d148f9cf824dc294eae/reference/projects.yaml#L1749 | 17:41 |
| sambetts | rloo: yeah, but neutrons model for plugins is they don't live in neutron | 17:41 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: oh awesome :) | 17:42 |
| sambetts | rloo: s/in/under | 17:42 |
| rloo | sambetts: so you answered my question. it lives in ironic then :-) | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | so I'm its PTL for now, and you can throw questions at me :) | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/gerrit/projects.yaml#L5136-L5138 is its configuration | 17:43 |
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| sambetts | looks like we have a separate launchpad for it already | 17:43 |
| dtantsur | as I don't see "groups" configuration, then a separate launchpad project should be created | 17:43 |
| sambetts | https://launchpad.net/networking-baremetal | 17:43 |
| dtantsur | aha | 17:43 |
| sambetts | it appears that we need to change its ownership | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: we need to ask vsaienk0 to move it under ironic-drivers (both "driver" and "maintainer") | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | sambetts, rloo: does it clarify something? | 17:44 |
| rloo | yup | 17:45 |
| sambetts | yup sounds good, so we treat it similar to ironic-inspector and RFE's go into the separate project | 17:45 |
| rloo | i like that it provides deep ironic/neutron integration, not shallow, but deep :-) | 17:45 |
| sambetts | hahaha | 17:45 |
| sambetts | deep dark intergration | 17:46 |
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| sambetts | black magic if you will | 17:46 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: yes. and we have a core subteam, like in ironic-inspector | 17:46 |
| dtantsur | this will help with reviews | 17:46 |
| dtantsur | s/we have/we can have/ | 17:46 |
| TheJulia | sambetts: ironic magic ;) | 17:46 |
| sambetts | I guess it'll have its own section on the whiteboard to o | 17:47 |
| dtantsur | yes | 17:47 |
| rloo | dtantsur: the rfes for networking-baremetal may affect ironic code. how do we coordinate that? | 17:47 |
| dtantsur | actually, we have the same situation with sushy and virtualbmc | 17:47 |
| sambetts | my guess it the same as with insepction ones we create them in inspector with multiple projects affect right? | 17:47 |
| dtantsur | rloo: what we do with inspector is to have a spec againt ironic, if it covers both projects, against inspector otherwise | 17:47 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: ok, that makes sense. | 17:47 |
| dtantsur | this is about specs. for RFEs you can add many projects to them | 17:47 |
| sambetts | got it | 17:48 |
| dtantsur | and then approve the overall request | 17:48 |
| sambetts | we don't need a networking-baremetal-specs repo at the momement then? | 17:48 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: I don't see a pressing need for that | 17:48 |
| dtantsur | we started having it for ironic-inspector when we got complex features that did not touch ironic essentially | 17:49 |
| dtantsur | like inspector HA | 17:49 |
| sambetts | yeah, I think we'll see how the project grows first | 17:49 |
| dtantsur | with this in mind: please add networking-baremetal, virtualbmc and sushy to your review dashboards, depending on your area of expertise | 17:50 |
| dtantsur | (and of course ironic-inspector and bifrost, but things look happier there for now) | 17:50 |
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| dtantsur | anything else to discuss? | 17:51 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: wanna take an action item to establish and etherpad/trello/whatever and revive the meeting? | 17:51 |
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| sambetts | dtantsur: sure | 17:52 |
| dtantsur | thanks! | 17:52 |
| dtantsur | if nobody has anything to bring up, I'm ready to finish a bit earlier :) | 17:52 |
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| TheJulia | Thanks! | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | thanks everyone, a good meeting | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | #endmeeting ironic | 17:53 |
| rloo | until next week... | 17:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 5 17:53:42 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-06-05-17.00.html | 17:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-06-05-17.00.txt | 17:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-06-05-17.00.log.html | 17:53 |
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| ildikov | #startmeeting openstack_upstream_institute | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jun 5 20:00:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ildikov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack_upstream_institute)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_upstream_institute' | 20:00 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 20:00 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Hello :) | 20:01 |
| kmARC | o/ | 20:01 |
| ildikov | hi :) | 20:01 |
| blancos | o/ | 20:01 |
| ildikov | let's wait a minute more and the dive in | 20:02 |
| ildikov | our agenda for today is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-upstream-institute-meetings | 20:03 |
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| ildikov | #topic Announcements | 20:03 |
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| ildikov | as a recap to the Boston training we have 12 responses to the survey | 20:04 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: :-( That is a low response rate. | 20:04 |
| jungleboyj | Guess that means they loved it? ;-) | 20:04 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: I think we had just a few more after Barcelona and we had more more people attending there so it's not bad :) | 20:05 |
| ildikov | the responses are mainly good | 20:05 |
| ildikov | we need to put a bit more emphasis on letting people know how the training is structured and what they can expect | 20:05 |
| kmARC | any highlights on what went really good / bad? | 20:05 |
| ildikov | for some it was too beginner for others it was almost a bit too much | 20:06 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo_phon: do we plan one more push for getting more feedback and/or summarizing the results? | 20:07 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I don't know that I'll push that much more since I've already bugged them twice :) | 20:08 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | But I will work on summarizing results. | 20:08 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo_phon: sounds good, tnx | 20:08 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | If you think I should poke again I can though | 20:08 |
| ildikov | kmARC: people pretty much appreciated the mentors in the room from the different projects | 20:09 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo_phon: nah, I just saw the comment on the etherpad and that's why I asked | 20:09 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo_phon: maybe that's an older one, I just wnated to confirm | 20:09 |
| kmARC | yeah, I think that was the strongest part of it, kudos to whoever came up with the idea originally :-) | 20:09 |
| ildikov | I think it was a team effort overall to have more project representation | 20:10 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: That is good. I am glad we were able to have better representation this time around. | 20:10 |
| ildikov | and we will try to extend our liaison team for the upcoming events | 20:10 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: +1 | 20:10 |
| jungleboyj | Having Jay Pipes was a huge help. | 20:10 |
| ildikov | :) | 20:11 |
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| ildikov | Along with all of you who were there! | 20:12 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I did write up a super user article and it's been posted for those interested | 20:12 |
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| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo_phon: Link? | 20:12 |
| kmARC | Link! | 20:12 |
| jungleboyj | kmARC: Jinx. ;-) | 20:12 |
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| ildikov | #link http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/openstack-upstream-institute-update/ | 20:12 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Let me grab it. | 20:13 |
| ildikov | I hope that's the one :) | 20:13 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I retweeted it last week | 20:13 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. | 20:13 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | ildikov: beat me to it :) | 20:13 |
| ildikov | Google did :) | 20:14 |
| jungleboyj | All hail google. | 20:14 |
| ildikov | further news is that we're bringing the Upstream Institute training to the OPNFV Summit next week | 20:14 |
| ildikov | it will be overall slightly shorter, but we hope for all the best still :) | 20:15 |
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| ildikov | we have a few volunteers from overall and the local community and expecting 30 students in the room | 20:15 |
| jungleboyj | Great. Look forward to hearing how that goes. | 20:16 |
| ildikov | we will give an update how it went when we're back | 20:16 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo_phon, csatari and me will be there with a few more volunteers | 20:16 |
| ildikov | kmARC: BTW did you do any further updates to the image in/after Boston? | 20:17 |
| kmARC | a minimal set of changes, but that was already pushed into the git repo. | 20:17 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Okay cool. I was gonna copy it onto some jump drives to have in hand. | 20:18 |
| kmARC | I did some further minifactions tho, however that's not production ready. Will update you guys on the current state however I'd just suggest using the latest stable | 20:18 |
| ildikov | kmARC: and is that uploaded as a built image as well? | 20:18 |
| kmARC | yes it is. Let's gimme a task and will update you guys after the CEE days | 20:18 |
| ildikov | kmARC: I was just wondering about that race issue, I'm not concerned about the size for this one | 20:19 |
| ildikov | kmARC: cool, sounds good, thanks :) | 20:19 |
| ildikov | then we can move on | 20:20 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Thank you :) | 20:20 |
| ildikov | #topic Boston training retrospective | 20:20 |
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| ildikov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS_OUI_Post_Mortem | 20:21 |
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| ildikov | I think we have the action items mainly covered from the etherpad already | 20:21 |
| ildikov | the further comments were more on how to organize ourselves better for next time | 20:21 |
| ildikov | we might write up a training best practices from it | 20:21 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | +1 to that idea | 20:22 |
| ildikov | if anyone wants to take that feel free to, otherwise I will start to put together something and then we can iterate on it | 20:22 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Can link to it on our wiki | 20:22 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | I can help if no one else wants it. | 20:23 |
| ildikov | I didn't think of anything fancy, but as the training gets picked up by others as well and we also need more organization I think it would be a good addition to our materials | 20:23 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo_phon: +1 | 20:23 |
| ildikov | anyone/anything else to the retro? | 20:24 |
| kmARC | ildikov: I am happy to point out workflow related issues and suggestions on what-how-when to say and what not :-) | 20:25 |
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| ildikov | kmARC: I'll create an etherpad for ideas and post the link on the team channel after the meeting | 20:26 |
| kmARC | perfect | 20:26 |
| ildikov | kmARC: tnx :) | 20:26 |
| ildikov | ok, moving on then | 20:27 |
| ildikov | #topic Wiki Updates | 20:27 |
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| ildikov | two things | 20:27 |
| ildikov | if anyone here hasn't update their info on our team wiki please do so | 20:28 |
| ildikov | like time zone, etc | 20:28 |
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| ildikov | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Upstream_Institute | 20:28 |
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| ildikov | the other is, I created another wiki page for people who we have confirmed for an event and attended to help out: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Upstream_Institute_Occasions | 20:29 |
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| ildikov | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Upstream_Institute_Occasions | 20:29 |
| ildikov | so we can more easily get a better view and also a history this way | 20:30 |
| jungleboyj | Cool. That is a good addtion! | 20:30 |
| ildikov | as we are planning to bring versions of the training to local events this might help to coordinate that as well | 20:30 |
| ildikov | we will see how it works out :) | 20:31 |
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| ildikov | anyone has any questions or further comments to the wiki? | 20:31 |
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| ildikov | ok, moving on :) | 20:32 |
| ildikov | #topic Alternating meeting slots proposal | 20:32 |
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| ildikov | so as we talked about it a short while ago we have a couple of team members in the Europe and Asia areas where this meeting time is either inconvenient or impossible to make | 20:32 |
| ildikov | based on the recent Doodle poll to find a more Europe-Asia friendly slot we got a winner, which would be Tuesdays at 0900 UTC | 20:33 |
| ildikov | my proposal would be to start with the new slot next week | 20:33 |
| ildikov | so have this slot for odd weeks and the alternate one on even weeks | 20:34 |
| ildikov | and I hope I checked it right that it's week 23 now :) | 20:34 |
| ildikov | does this overall sound acceptable for everyone? | 20:34 |
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| mlavalle | ildikov: yes, according to google calendar, this is week 23 | 20:36 |
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| mlavalle | ildikov: and yes, the time slot for the odd numbered week is fine with me | 20:36 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: thanks for double checking, I always mess up calendars... :) | 20:36 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: cool, thanks | 20:37 |
| ildikov | is there anyone against the proposal? | 20:37 |
| mlavalle | ildikov: on even numbered week, I will be soundly asleep, I hope ;-) | 20:37 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: fair enough :) | 20:37 |
| jungleboyj | :-) Sounds like it is worth giving a try and see what happens. | 20:37 |
| ildikov | coolio, then I'll submit a patch to get the slot secured | 20:38 |
| ildikov | #action ildikov to register alternating meeting slots | 20:38 |
| ildikov | #topic Open discussion | 20:38 |
| mlavalle | ildikov: another todo is to update the wiki | 20:38 |
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| ildikov | mlavalle: right, will do that too, tnx! | 20:39 |
| ildikov | #action ildikov to update the wiki too | 20:39 |
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| ildikov | I think I will just add a link to the main meetings page as I should've originally as well :) | 20:40 |
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| ildikov | any further topics we should discuss? | 20:40 |
| ildikov | this sounds like a no :) | 20:41 |
| ildikov | thank you all | 20:41 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 20:41 |
| ildikov | see you here in two weeks :) | 20:42 |
| jungleboyj | Thank you! | 20:42 |
| ildikov | have a good day | 20:42 |
| skelso | o/ | 20:42 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: You too. | 20:42 |
| ildikov | #endmeeting | 20:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jun 5 20:42:28 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_upstream_institute/2017/openstack_upstream_institute.2017-06-05-20.00.html | 20:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_upstream_institute/2017/openstack_upstream_institute.2017-06-05-20.00.txt | 20:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_upstream_institute/2017/openstack_upstream_institute.2017-06-05-20.00.log.html | 20:42 |
| mlavalle | ildikov, diablo_rojo_phon: enjoy your trip to China | 20:42 |
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| ildikov | mlavalle: thanks! | 20:42 |
| mlavalle | diablo_rojo_phon: en tu caso, que tengas un feliz viaje a China | 20:43 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | mlavalle: gracias :) | 20:45 |
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