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| bennco1 | JOIN | 05:33 |
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| reedip | hi | 05:36 |
| reedip | waiting for other members to join | 05:37 |
| yamamoto | hi | 05:37 |
| kaz | hi | 05:37 |
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| reedip | yamamoto : care to start meeting ? | 05:41 |
| reedip | there is no item from my side right now in TaaS | 05:42 |
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| reedip | #startmeeting taas | 05:46 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 7 05:46:27 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is reedip. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:46 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:46 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'taas' | 05:46 |
| reedip | #topic open-item | 05:46 |
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| kaz | reedip: i have no update, too. | 05:48 |
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| reedip | I also dont have any specific items | 05:51 |
| vnyyad | Hi, is Anil back or any idea when he is back | 05:52 |
| reedip | vnyyad : hello . No, he is not back yet | 05:52 |
| vnyyad | reedip: Thanks! | 05:53 |
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| reedip | if we do not have any specific items to discuss, we can close the meeting. | 05:54 |
| kaz | +1 | 05:55 |
| vnyyad | +1 | 05:55 |
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| reedip | ok | 05:59 |
| reedip | #endmeeting | 05:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 7 05:59:38 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-06-07-05.46.html | 05:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-06-07-05.46.txt | 05:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/taas/2017/taas.2017-06-07-05.46.log.html | 05:59 |
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| tobberydberg | Even though its not 1400 yet....who is here already for publiccloud-wg ?? | 13:59 |
| tobberydberg | o/ | 13:59 |
| Labedz | o/ | 13:59 |
| zhipeng_ | o/ | 13:59 |
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| yankcrime | o/ | 14:00 |
| tobberydberg | Hi | 14:01 |
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| tobberydberg | and welcome! | 14:01 |
| rmart04 | Yo! | 14:01 |
| tobberydberg | #startmeeting publiccloud_wg | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 7 14:01:53 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tobberydberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg' | 14:01 |
| seanhandley | Hi folks o/ | 14:02 |
| tobberydberg | So, see that we are a few here! Cool! Welcome! | 14:02 |
| seanhandley | Don't forget to sign the Etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg | 14:02 |
| tobberydberg | Please put your name at the etherpad | 14:02 |
| tobberydberg | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg | 14:02 |
| tobberydberg | hehehe....you are too quick for me =) | 14:03 |
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| tobberydberg | #topic Review last meetings APs | 14:03 |
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| tobberydberg | We have to APs from last week | 14:04 |
| yankcrime | fwiw i'm only around for the next 25 minutes or so as i've another call i need to be on at 15:30 | 14:04 |
| yankcrime | so apologies in advance when i disappear | 14:04 |
| tobberydberg | First...me sending out a summary...not much to discuss maybe, did it the day after. Was it ok? | 14:04 |
| seanhandley | Yeah it was fine tobberydberg | 14:04 |
| zhipeng_ | yes thx | 14:05 |
| tobberydberg | No problem...lets do the first ones quick if possible | 14:05 |
| tobberydberg | ok, good! | 14:05 |
| yankcrime | i think it needed to go to openstack-operators as well tobberydberg | 14:05 |
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| yankcrime | (unless it did, and i missed that fact due to my mua being stupid) | 14:05 |
| tobberydberg | ok, lets do that as well! | 14:05 |
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| tobberydberg | don't remember if I added only dev and user-committee | 14:06 |
| tobberydberg | Next | 14:06 |
| yankcrime | definitely worth sending to -operators as well imo | 14:06 |
| tobberydberg | zhipeng_: Status at missing features list | 14:06 |
| tobberydberg | agree | 14:06 |
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| zhipeng_ | so I ran a summary of our boston forum meeting | 14:07 |
| zhipeng_ | and highlighted in the spreadsheet | 14:07 |
| zhipeng_ | the items that were agreed at the forum session which are important | 14:07 |
| zhipeng_ | I also add an additional tab for the defcore testing features | 14:07 |
| zhipeng_ | will add contents later | 14:07 |
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| zhipeng_ | for the development features, I think I will add a couple more myself later this week | 14:08 |
| seanhandley | Can we add a link tag for the spreadsheet please? | 14:09 |
| tobberydberg | So, "Status" column: implemented=Y ? | 14:09 |
| tobberydberg | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Mf8OAyTzZxCKzYHMgBl-QK_2-XSycSkOjqCyMTIedkA | 14:09 |
| zhipeng_ | yes | 14:09 |
| zhipeng_ | well not strictly implemented | 14:10 |
| tobberydberg | Planned or implemented? | 14:10 |
| zhipeng_ | as long as it is in the process of development | 14:10 |
| zhipeng_ | i put a Y there | 14:10 |
| yankcrime | how are we registering interested parties? | 14:10 |
| tobberydberg | ok. Lets put definitions as comment or something? | 14:10 |
| yankcrime | was that collated during the session or are we expecting people to register interest themselves afterwards? | 14:10 |
| zhipeng_ | I think the latter | 14:11 |
| yankcrime | also we should probably circulate this once more, perhaps just calling attention to it with the next meeting summary email, and then give it a deadline | 14:11 |
| zhipeng_ | yes I agree | 14:12 |
| yankcrime | then we can draw a line under it and try to make progress with what we have | 14:12 |
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| zhipeng_ | we could have more features for this cycle, since we are counting the gaps | 14:12 |
| zhipeng_ | yes agree | 14:12 |
| tobberydberg | Ok. Deadline in terms of "implementation goals for Sydney" ? | 14:13 |
| seanhandley | Worth being aware of: I've been looking at Adjutant (formerly StackTask) which is released by Catalyst and will soon be added to gerrit. This will allow some of the missing features to be implemented (self service sign up, for instance). | 14:13 |
| zhipeng_ | deadline for "these are the gaps we will be looking at for the P cycle :P" | 14:13 |
| seanhandley | #link https://github.com/catalyst/adjutant | 14:13 |
| zhipeng_ | and for sydney we could have more | 14:13 |
| zhipeng_ | for some Q cycle items | 14:13 |
| tobberydberg | ah, ok, so to next PTG first of all | 14:14 |
| zhipeng_ | yep | 14:14 |
| tobberydberg | seanhandley: that is great | 14:14 |
| tobberydberg | have not found the time to look into it more yet | 14:14 |
| seanhandley | It will require some development of additional python modules | 14:15 |
| zhipeng_ | yes and there is also an email from the catalyst team | 14:15 |
| zhipeng_ | if I remember correctly | 14:15 |
| seanhandley | depending on what the workflow is for signup for an organization, for instance | 14:15 |
| seanhandley | I'm aiming to make a working signup flow that mirrors what we currently have on our platform | 14:15 |
| seanhandley | So Stay Tuned :) | 14:16 |
| tobberydberg | But ok. #action One more round of reminder of adding content and notes to the missing features list in the summary email | 14:16 |
| zhipeng_ | maybe we could do a podcast or something | 14:16 |
| zhipeng_ | i don't think other WGs had tried that | 14:16 |
| zhipeng_ | the first episode could be sean to introduce the catalyst work | 14:17 |
| tobberydberg | Nice idea as well | 14:17 |
| zhipeng_ | and we could take turns for more contents :P | 14:17 |
| seanhandley | +1 | 14:17 |
| tobberydberg | but, stick to topic here =) | 14:17 |
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| seanhandley | A screencast perhaps | 14:17 |
| tobberydberg | But I like the discussion | 14:17 |
| zhipeng_ | ya that also works | 14:17 |
| yankcrime | given the number of people that turn up to this meeting, i'm not really convinced a podcast is worth the effort ;) | 14:18 |
| tobberydberg | zhipeng_: Can you add definitions to the document as well? | 14:18 |
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| tobberydberg | #action zhipeng adds definitions to the missing features document | 14:19 |
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| zhipeng_ | got it | 14:19 |
| tobberydberg | thatnks | 14:19 |
| tobberydberg | thanks | 14:19 |
| zhipeng_ | sputniks | 14:19 |
| zhipeng_ | :P | 14:19 |
| tobberydberg | #topic 3rd co-chair | 14:19 |
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| tobberydberg | We would like to suggest a third co-chair of the group | 14:20 |
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| tobberydberg | And we propose seanhandley to be the 3rd | 14:20 |
| seanhandley | o/ | 14:20 |
| zhipeng_ | seconded | 14:21 |
| zhipeng_ | no pun intended :P | 14:21 |
| tobberydberg | So, can we put that to a vote? | 14:21 |
| yankcrime | you already have a majority? | 14:21 |
| yankcrime | no point in voting! | 14:21 |
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| seanhandley | :D | 14:21 |
| tobberydberg | hehehe | 14:21 |
| seanhandley | If it's not clear, I'm also in favour of this | 14:22 |
| tobberydberg | Lets do it for the "paper works" | 14:22 |
| tobberydberg | #startvote Agree on accepting seanhandley as third co-chair ? yes, no | 14:22 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Agree on accepting seanhandley as third co-chair ? Valid vote options are yes, no. | 14:22 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 14:22 |
| yankcrime | #vote yes | 14:22 |
| zhipeng_ | #vote yes | 14:22 |
| tobberydberg | #vote yes | 14:22 |
| seanhandley | #vote yes | 14:22 |
| tobberydberg | #endvote | 14:22 |
| openstack | Voted on "Agree on accepting seanhandley as third co-chair ?" Results are | 14:22 |
| openstack | yes (4): yankcrime, seanhandley, zhipeng_, tobberydberg | 14:22 |
| seanhandley | \o/ | 14:22 |
| tobberydberg | Cool! Welcome seanhandley =) | 14:23 |
| zhipeng_ | congrats | 14:23 |
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| zhipeng_ | we rely on you for the development lol | 14:23 |
| seanhandley | So far - I really hope more people step up | 14:23 |
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| zhipeng_ | there will be | 14:24 |
| tobberydberg | I hope to be able to as well! | 14:24 |
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| tobberydberg | #topic Set goals for Sydney Summit | 14:24 |
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| tobberydberg | I believe its easier for us to work in Summit cycles....or am I wrong? | 14:25 |
| tobberydberg | Since we are not that many attending PTGs | 14:25 |
| zhipeng_ | yes I agree | 14:25 |
| seanhandley | It makes sense to sync up with the wider release cycle | 14:25 |
| zhipeng_ | I would propose for the MKT side of things of the summit | 14:25 |
| yankcrime | yup, we've no plans to attend the next PTG fwiw | 14:26 |
| tobberydberg | Yes, agree on that | 14:26 |
| yankcrime | (maybe not even the next summit, we'll see) | 14:26 |
| zhipeng_ | we should consider make the EU public cloud meetup and the open passport | 14:26 |
| zhipeng_ | as part of the keynote that will be given by the foundation | 14:26 |
| tobberydberg | Agree...but, maybe to soon to do that for Sydney? | 14:27 |
| seanhandley | yes, probably | 14:27 |
| zhipeng_ | Sydney is Nov, I think we got enough time tho | 14:27 |
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| tobberydberg | meetup +1 | 14:27 |
| zhipeng_ | momentum is critical | 14:27 |
| tobberydberg | yes, agree to that | 14:27 |
| zhipeng_ | yep at least we could do the meetup | 14:27 |
| zhipeng_ | passport needs more company procedures | 14:28 |
| tobberydberg | but first we need to close some achievable goals I believe | 14:28 |
| zhipeng_ | oh yes definitely | 14:28 |
| yankcrime | i've got to run all - good luck with the remainder of the meeting and i'll keep an eye out for the mailing list update! | 14:28 |
| yankcrime | \o | 14:28 |
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| tobberydberg | How many companies are we here to put togther that passport? | 14:28 |
| zhipeng_ | for the open passport, we need to do a headcount by reaching out one by one I guess | 14:29 |
| zhipeng_ | since each company might have different promo plans | 14:29 |
| zhipeng_ | meetup is much more easier :P | 14:29 |
| tobberydberg | yes, would like to continue with goals... I'll create a etherpad for the goals | 14:30 |
| rmart04 | Hey, could someone fill me in on the ‘open passport’ details… unfamiliar! | 14:30 |
| tobberydberg | zhipeng_: Can you describe? | 14:30 |
| zhipeng_ | hi rmart04 | 14:31 |
| rmart04 | :) | 14:31 |
| zhipeng_ | it was an idea floated by David Flander from the foundation | 14:31 |
| zhipeng_ | that for each openstack based public cloud operators, maybe starting from EU | 14:31 |
| zhipeng_ | we have a unified "OpenStack Open Passport" that is designed by the foundation MKT team, with coupon codes on it from each public cloud | 14:32 |
| rmart04 | Ah OK promotional, free credit essentially | 14:32 |
| zhipeng_ | for example it could writes "with this promo code you got 30 day free trial on OVH with xxx spec instances" | 14:33 |
| zhipeng_ | yep | 14:33 |
| zhipeng_ | because David see Azure and AWS are doing similar promotion | 14:33 |
| rmart04 | OK fair enough! Thanks | 14:33 |
| zhipeng_ | no problem | 14:33 |
| zhipeng_ | tobias, back to the goals | 14:34 |
| tobberydberg | We will have challenges in finding common "credits" and get all MKTs on the boat in time for Sydney | 14:34 |
| zhipeng_ | I would agree | 14:35 |
| zhipeng_ | at least no guarantee on that | 14:35 |
| tobberydberg | but we should put this on the list and keep it warm | 14:35 |
| zhipeng_ | agree :) | 14:35 |
| Labedz | sounds interesting | 14:35 |
| zhipeng_ | even if we allow each company have different promo schemes, it will still takes time | 14:36 |
| tobberydberg | really good idea....easy to do for one single company, but will need a lot of coordinations | 14:36 |
| zhipeng_ | for legal whatever stuff to be signed | 14:36 |
| tobberydberg | Agree | 14:36 |
| seanhandley | rmart04: Care to add your name to the etherpad? :) https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg | 14:36 |
| tobberydberg | ok. So, goals | 14:36 |
| tobberydberg | My suggestion is that we all put goals-suggestion to following etherpad | 14:37 |
| tobberydberg | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SYDNEY_GOALS_publiccloud-wg | 14:37 |
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| tobberydberg | Cool! | 14:39 |
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| tobberydberg | seanhandley: Do you know if Nick got more info around the UK days ? | 14:44 |
| seanhandley | He didn't say | 14:44 |
| seanhandley | I'll make sure the Etherpad is updated when I find out | 14:44 |
| zhipeng_ | cool | 14:45 |
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| zhipeng_ | I prefer Nordic since the Linux Open Source is right after in Prague | 14:45 |
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| zhipeng_ | it is easier for us to schedule the trip | 14:45 |
| zhipeng_ | for sponsorship | 14:46 |
| zhipeng_ | OpenStack Day itseld already got sponsorship covered right ? | 14:46 |
| tobberydberg | yes | 14:46 |
| seanhandley | tobberydberg: Nick's optimistic that it'll be fine to do the meetup at OpenStack Days UK and he'll confirm formally at the end of the week | 14:46 |
| tobberydberg | A few open spots left I'm sure | 14:46 |
| zhipeng_ | So for our meetup maybe we just need extra support for the room renting, the drink and snacks | 14:46 |
| tobberydberg | yes | 14:47 |
| tobberydberg | What is best, the day before or after maybe? Independent of which event... | 14:47 |
| zhipeng_ | or on the second day afternoon | 14:48 |
| tobberydberg | Maybe just like that yes | 14:48 |
| zhipeng_ | that might give us a good volume of people | 14:48 |
| seanhandley | I don't mind either way - I don't have any other pressing engagements before/after either event | 14:48 |
| tobberydberg | First day at Nordics is "training day" ... could maybe be at that day as well | 14:48 |
| zhipeng_ | ah yes | 14:49 |
| zhipeng_ | training day would be ideal | 14:49 |
| tobberydberg | I hope to attend both Nordics and UK | 14:49 |
| zhipeng_ | haha I could only do one lol | 14:49 |
| tobberydberg | as well as Sydney...but thats not confirmed yet | 14:49 |
| tobberydberg | Is linuxcon an alternative? | 14:49 |
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| seanhandley | Potentially | 14:50 |
| zhipeng_ | I think OpenStack Day is a better choice | 14:50 |
| zhipeng_ | for the right audience | 14:51 |
| seanhandley | That's true | 14:51 |
| tobberydberg | More related of course | 14:51 |
| zhipeng_ | and good for promotion from foundation's point of view | 14:51 |
| tobberydberg | yes | 14:51 |
| rmart04 | Nordic is at trivoli! Its nice there! Apologies, slightly off topic, at the sumit session there was some talk of a place/repo/wiki? to keep track of bugs/security issues/knowledge sharing specifically related to public cloud providers, was there any movement on that? | 14:52 |
| tobberydberg | The missing features list is probably the most related to that right now | 14:53 |
| rmart04 | OK Np | 14:54 |
| tobberydberg | Du you have the link? | 14:54 |
| seanhandley | and it should go somewhere that isn't a spreadsheet long term | 14:54 |
| zhipeng_ | yes we will need a repo eventually | 14:54 |
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| tobberydberg | We have talked about tags etc to commits, will probably come as we start to get commits in there... | 14:54 |
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| zhipeng_ | we could put scripts, tools, gaps analysis docs | 14:55 |
| zhipeng_ | all there in the repo | 14:55 |
| tobberydberg | yes | 14:55 |
| tobberydberg | when needed | 14:55 |
| seanhandley | who do we talk to about setting that up? | 14:55 |
| tobberydberg | maybe we will need that to sydney? =) | 14:55 |
| tobberydberg | Me =) | 14:55 |
| tobberydberg | No, but I have got information about the drill | 14:56 |
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| tobberydberg | Just need to do a commit in a repo, and sending an email to the list basically to describe why we need it | 14:56 |
| seanhandley | ok cool :) | 14:57 |
| tobberydberg | basically like this commit | 14:57 |
| tobberydberg | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427819/1/reference/user-committee-repos.yaml | 14:57 |
| seanhandley | We're nearly out of time (3 mins left) | 14:57 |
| tobberydberg | yes. | 14:57 |
| tobberydberg | So, no "others" today either | 14:57 |
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| tobberydberg | Continue to write in the goals pad | 14:58 |
| tobberydberg | and put +1 | 14:58 |
| tobberydberg | I'll write the summary | 14:58 |
| tobberydberg | lets continue interesting discussions in #openstack-publiccloud ... we had a few last week | 14:58 |
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| zhipeng_ | :) | 14:59 |
| seanhandley | +1 | 14:59 |
| prometheanfire | hi? | 14:59 |
| tobberydberg | Thank you all for today! Put your name in the etherpad if you haven't done that =) | 14:59 |
| seanhandley | Cheers guys o/ | 15:00 |
| tobberydberg | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 7 15:00:13 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-06-07-14.01.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-06-07-14.01.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-06-07-14.01.log.html | 15:00 |
| prometheanfire | #startmeeting requirements | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 7 15:01:28 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is prometheanfire. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' | 15:01 |
| dirk | o/ | 15:01 |
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| prometheanfire | dims: dhellmann tonyb ? | 15:01 |
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| kornica | o/ | 15:01 |
| dims | o/ (partially here - getting my car fixed) | 15:01 |
| prometheanfire | dims: fun | 15:02 |
| prometheanfire | kornica: want to introduce yourself? | 15:02 |
| dims | next only to dentists :) | 15:02 |
| kornica | ehm....that is odd | 15:02 |
| kornica | shouldn't it be now a monasca time ? | 15:02 |
| kornica | what the heck :P | 15:02 |
| prometheanfire | it used to be but they moved their time iirc | 15:03 |
| kornica | seriously...ok...nvm me | 15:03 |
| kornica | that's not me time | 15:03 |
| kornica | cheers | 15:03 |
| kornica | cheers8my | 15:03 |
| prometheanfire | lol | 15:03 |
| dims | kornica : welcome to hang around :) | 15:03 |
| kornica | 'd love to, but if that's not monasca meeting, I got my little devil (daughter) to take care | 15:04 |
| kornica | my wife's gonna love that | 15:04 |
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| prometheanfire | #topic https://review.openstack.org/467068 ExaBGP reviews | 15:05 |
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| prometheanfire | I think we should make a decision on it, the main thing holding me back is the bundled libraries | 15:06 |
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| dims | prometheanfire : where exactly under https://github.com/Exa-Networks/exabgp/ ? | 15:08 |
| prometheanfire | https://github.com/Exa-Networks/exabgp/tree/master/lib/exabgp/vendoring iirc | 15:08 |
| dims | hmm, vendoring six too! | 15:09 |
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| dims | prometheanfire : i'd request sdague and dhellmann to chime in for this too | 15:10 |
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| prometheanfire | ya, tony should be reviewing it today | 15:12 |
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| dims | ack prometheanfire, let's wait for that | 15:12 |
| prometheanfire | k | 15:12 |
| prometheanfire | next, now that tony's back | 15:13 |
| prometheanfire | #topic meeting time change, again... | 15:13 |
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| dirk | prometheanfire: lets make a doodle | 15:14 |
| prometheanfire | he hasn't offered a time to change to, so I'm kinda waiting on that | 15:14 |
| prometheanfire | that's fine too | 15:14 |
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| prometheanfire | #topic open stable-maint team | 15:16 |
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| dirk | prometheanfire: lets do this.. I think I had some comments on the review | 15:17 |
| dirk | if you rebased, I'm ok with +1 it | 15:18 |
| prometheanfire | which review? | 15:18 |
| prometheanfire | the stable-maint one? | 15:18 |
| dirk | yes | 15:18 |
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| prometheanfire | ok, I'll take a look at that | 15:18 |
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| prometheanfire | #topic any other open reviews to go over? | 15:20 |
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| prometheanfire | dirk: I did respond to your questions | 15:26 |
| dirk | prometheanfire: thanks | 15:26 |
| dirk | prometheanfire: no open reviews other than the Exa one | 15:26 |
| prometheanfire | #topic open floor | 15:26 |
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| dirk | I think we might want to draft a fallback plan given that we're behind on pike deliverables | 15:27 |
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| dirk | but I guess we should be doing that with tonyb | 15:27 |
| prometheanfire | ya, I'm hoping tony will be more available for that | 15:27 |
| prometheanfire | ya | 15:28 |
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| prometheanfire | ok, going to close | 15:33 |
| prometheanfire | #endmeeting | 15:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 7 15:33:53 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-06-07-15.01.html | 15:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-06-07-15.01.txt | 15:33 |
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| markvoelker | #startmeeting interopwg | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 7 16:00:12 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markvoelker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| Rockyg | o/ | 16:00 |
| markvoelker | #chair hogepodge | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: hogepodge markvoelker | 16:00 |
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| markvoelker | o/ | 16:00 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 16:00 |
| markvoelker | #topic agenda | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:00 | |
| markvoelker | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropVertigo.3 Today's Agenda | 16:00 |
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| markvoelker | Feel free to tack on anything we're missing from the agenda this week folks | 16:01 |
| catherineD | o/ | 16:01 |
| zhipeng_ | o/ | 16:01 |
| luzC | o/ | 16:01 |
| markvoelker | Without further ado... | 16:01 |
| markvoelker | #topic 2017.08 Guideline | 16:01 |
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| markvoelker | I think we're about ready to cut the new JSON document. | 16:02 |
| mguiney | o/ | 16:02 |
| markvoelker | I'm happy to do that this week, but there are one or two patches that we might want to decide on first in order to avoid refactoring | 16:02 |
| markvoelker | We'll talk through both of those in just a moment, but barring any issues getting those decided: any objections to creating the 2017.08 doc this week? | 16:03 |
| hogepodge | it looks like the patch for token checking is ready to land in tempest | 16:04 |
| hogepodge | thanks to mguiney for that work | 16:04 |
| hogepodge | still working on the catalog check patch (although it's moving forward at this point), so we might want to consider the status of that | 16:04 |
| markvoelker | I think the token patch probably isn't a blocker for cutting the new JSON doc though, since we don't have a patch against interop yet (waiting for it to land in tempest first). E.g. no patch = no need refactoring, just submit a new patch against 2017.08. | 16:06 |
| markvoelker | Make sense? | 16:06 |
| hogepodge | sure, np, just wanted to make everyone aware of the status of that work. thanks | 16:06 |
| * mguiney nods | 16:06 | |
| markvoelker | ++ | 16:06 |
| mguiney | makes sense | 16:06 |
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| markvoelker | Ok then, hearing no objections I'll take an action for cutting the new doc this week. I'll hold off a few days to see if we can get one or two more patches decided, which we'll discuss shortly | 16:07 |
| luzC | ++ | 16:07 |
| Rockyg | ++ | 16:08 |
| markvoelker | #action mvoelker Create 2017.08 doc this week (hopefully after we decide on 462860& 460372) | 16:08 |
| markvoelker | Which brings us to... | 16:08 |
| markvoelker | #topic Outstanding patches | 16:08 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467493/ non-admin token validation test | 16:08 |
| markvoelker | We'd discussed previously that we'd be ok with this being a late-ish addition to 2017.08 since we've been discussing it for a while now | 16:09 |
| markvoelker | We could use a couple of Tempest core reviews on it though...anyone we can poke/buy a beer for to help out? | 16:10 |
| mguiney | who would be the best people to poke, you think? | 16:11 |
| Rockyg | I'm sure there are some that could be poked. | 16:11 |
| luzC | I'll ping Matt | 16:11 |
| Rockyg | just slide over to the qa channel and post the link and ask. | 16:12 |
| mguiney | ahhhh yes | 16:12 |
| mguiney | i actually already did that, but it might have been too late in the day | 16:12 |
| luzC | cool | 16:12 |
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| markvoelker | Ok. Let's see what happens then. Anything else to discuss on this patch? | 16:13 |
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| markvoelker | Ok, moving along then... | 16:13 |
| Rockyg | matt should be on at the moment. 11am where he is | 16:13 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467528/ Catalog standardization test | 16:13 |
| markvoelker | I don't think this one is holding up 2017.08 work either. | 16:14 |
| markvoelker | We'd discussed that this is something we probably want to advertise as soon as possible though | 16:14 |
| markvoelker | So even if it doesn't make it into 2017.08 we might include some verbage to the BoD about it as a future capability or something | 16:14 |
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| markvoelker | Personally I'd like to have it sooner rather than later, but given the redness of CI it may just need a little more bake time. =) | 16:15 |
| markvoelker | Thanks again for working on this mguiney! | 16:16 |
| markvoelker | Any updates or things we need to talk about on this one? | 16:16 |
| mguiney | yeah, it just needs some more debug | 16:16 |
| mguiney | i also have an admin version in the works, but i want to work out the kinks on this one so that the next one doesnt have so many quirks in the process | 16:17 |
| mguiney | but that's about all | 16:17 |
| markvoelker | Ok then, on to... | 16:17 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458716/ Create tools to increase ease of scoring | 16:18 |
| markvoelker | I actually haven't had time to play with this yet as I've been away for a bit, so I'll sign up to get that done this week | 16:18 |
| markvoelker | luzC had some comments--were those addressed in the latest patchset? | 16:19 |
| markvoelker | Also we'd talked about adding inline help | 16:19 |
| markvoelker | AGain, this is not particularly urgent since we're more or less done with scoring for a while, so it's fine for this to hang out for a bit if you are otherwise occupied mguiney | 16:20 |
| luzC | yes, I think the comments were addressed and I wanted to test it out, I'll review it later today | 16:20 |
| markvoelker | luzC: great, thanks | 16:20 |
| mguiney | ahhhh yes, i forgot to do that bit of cleanup work | 16:20 |
| mguiney | i will add that right after meeting | 16:20 |
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| markvoelker | Sweet | 16:21 |
| markvoelker | Ok, anything else on this? | 16:21 |
| markvoelker | Hearing nothing, onward to... | 16:21 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462860/ Add Aliases For VolumeV2 Test Cases Part 1 | 16:22 |
| zhipeng_ | sorry for the lack of progress last week | 16:22 |
| zhipeng_ | was boggled with many other stuff, but I think I could wrappit up this week :) | 16:22 |
| zhipeng_ | catherine kindly pointed out an example, and I think I know what went wrong | 16:23 |
| zhipeng_ | will push a update later today | 16:23 |
| markvoelker | zhipeng_: No worries, happens to the best of us. We can land this after 2017.08 is done since it's an alias, but would just save you a little refactoring effort if we get it done first. | 16:23 |
| markvoelker | Thanks! | 16:23 |
| zhipeng_ | again thx for lucZ and catherine's comment | 16:23 |
| zhipeng_ | yep understood :) | 16:23 |
| markvoelker | Ok, anything further on this one? | 16:24 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/463944/ Remove test_delete_active_server | 16:24 |
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| markvoelker | Mostly just an FYI on this one: since last week it was abandoned since it looks like we're keeping the requisite tempest test after all | 16:24 |
| zhipeng_ | cool | 16:25 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460372/ Flagging Regarding Public Cloud Subnet | 16:25 |
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| zhipeng_ | I could make a quick update patch on this one | 16:26 |
| markvoelker | In looking at this one, it looks like the rationale for flagging/removing the tests is more about the fact that the ports being created/updated are in different subnets than about the port update itself | 16:26 |
| markvoelker | In which case it may just be a case where we need to refactor the tests a bit since the port update is the bit we care most about I think | 16:26 |
| zhipeng_ | should I keep the flagging for the next.json ? | 16:26 |
| zhipeng_ | this is the only question I have now | 16:26 |
| zhipeng_ | instead of deletion , right ? | 16:27 |
| markvoelker | zhipeng_: That would be my thinking, yes (and we need to create a bug to work on the test). Anyone else have thoughts here? | 16:27 |
| zhipeng_ | okey understood :) | 16:27 |
| zhipeng_ | this will be a quicker update than the previous one :P | 16:28 |
| Rockyg | Sounds right to me. and test of the feature is important | 16:28 |
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| markvoelker | Ok. Just FYI, it might be useful to browse around and see if there are already other tests we should be using for this, too. I suspect not much has changed, but you never know. | 16:29 |
| markvoelker | Ok, anything else on this one? | 16:29 |
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| markvoelker | OK, anything else on outstanding patches in general? | 16:30 |
| zhipeng_ | got it | 16:30 |
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| markvoelker | #topic Discussion of Tempest tests, plugins, etc | 16:30 |
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| markvoelker | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/interop-wg/2017-June/000147.html Mailing list thread on many discussions around Tempest and interop and plugins | 16:31 |
| markvoelker | I've been away recently so I'm still working on getting back up to speed, and there's a lot to digest here. | 16:31 |
| markvoelker | rockyg: Would you like to give a quick intro for folks who are new to this discussion(s)? | 16:32 |
| Rockyg | Let | 16:33 |
| Rockyg | s see if I can explain some of it. | 16:33 |
| Rockyg | The whole thing started with tempest in tree tests and tempest plugins. | 16:34 |
| Rockyg | Then someone interested in the IWG addon program commented on needing new tests added in tree but QA not allowing it. | 16:34 |
| Rockyg | Then all sorts of fud about 30-40 TM programs and not enough QA bodies, yada, yada. | 16:35 |
| Rockyg | And some pointers to TC resolutions on what is "base" or "core" or "approved" vs what is already in IWG. | 16:36 |
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| Rockyg | Nostly it points out that devs are very disconnected from IWG, we aare disconnected from them and QA is really strapped. | 16:37 |
| Rockyg | Some bad assumptions on the part of some in dev. and maybe some from us. | 16:37 |
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| zhipeng_ | there were discussions on heat tempest plugin retirement from in-tree (move to be maintained by heat team), also related right ? | 16:38 |
| Rockyg | I think we need to let them know whether we can work with the tempest plugin model. | 16:38 |
| Rockyg | That is very related. They are also considering moving all projects to plugin model and the question is how to ensure quality of IWG test | 16:39 |
| catherineD | We need clearify whether the tests for the addon is required to be in Tempest... | 16:39 |
| Rockyg | that, too. | 16:39 |
| markvoelker | Ok. Maybe the easiest thing to do is for me to send out a broadcast to interwg, openstack-dev, and whoever else about our current thinking on those things, and let you all chime in too? | 16:39 |
| hogepodge | As I understand it. Anything considered core, that is, corresponds to OpenStack Powered Platform, will be required to have tests in tree in Tempest | 16:39 |
| hogepodge | Extensions will remain in-tree. | 16:39 |
| catherineD | if everything (current program and addon ) is requried to be in Tempest ... the not much the plugin can be useful | 16:40 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: that is the current state of affairs due to the TC resolution, yes. It does not govern add-ons or vertical since those were not even a twinkle in our eyes when the resolution was drafted. | 16:40 |
| hogepodge | The TC members I've spoken with have said they will update the TC resolution about in tree tests to reflect the new schema style. | 16:40 |
| Rockyg | I think we should get our position straight then hold a join meeting in openstack-meeting-crossproject that is well advertised | 16:40 |
| zhipeng_ | +1 | 16:40 |
| hogepodge | when I say extensions will remain in tree, I mean in-project | 16:41 |
| catherineD | extenstion and addon are the same thing right? | 16:41 |
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| hogepodge | yes, I'm using the name extension because it's a better name :-D | 16:41 |
| markvoelker | My current thinking is that the idea of add-on program tests being required to live in the tempest tree doesn't jive well with reality, so in-project-tree is fine | 16:41 |
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| hogepodge | I don't think anyone disagrees with that. | 16:42 |
| markvoelker | Great | 16:42 |
| markvoelker | Same for verticals...I'm not opposed to those living outside tempest at all. | 16:42 |
| Rockyg | Yea. The TC is willing to work with us. We just have some really stretched hin QA folks that are still working to accept the new reality | 16:42 |
| Rockyg | ++ on all of that. | 16:42 |
| catherineD | I think we should standardize on our terms. It would be less confusiing to the communitee | 16:42 |
| hogepodge | I think QA is on board with this too, tbh | 16:42 |
| Rockyg | I also think there is a lack of awareness that some here are doing test vetting and test writing work. | 16:43 |
| Rockyg | If we are vetting the tests, too, then QA might feel better about the in-project placements | 16:43 |
| hogepodge | Test lists for extensions should come from project leaders, which is how I've been handling it | 16:44 |
| Rockyg | QA is just so overworked at the moment, that anyone proposing new work for them makes them react negatively at first | 16:44 |
| luzC | also the change that is happening for the tempest plugins is that now the plugin will live in its own repo (outside the project repo)... due to packaging issues, and because tempest is branchless, etc. etc | 16:44 |
| luzC | so is it ok for IWG that test cases live on the project plugin repository | 16:45 |
| catherineD | Is this our position: extension (add-on) and the current program are governed by the TC resolution .. vertical is not as such vertical tests can use plug in? | 16:45 |
| Rockyg | This could also give us back versioned test ;-) if they are in project repos | 16:45 |
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| luzC | not the project tree itself? | 16:45 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: ++, I think one of the big intents for add-on^H^H^H^H^H extension programs is to get the individual projects thinking about what interop means for their projects rather than trying to delegate it to a central body | 16:45 |
| Rockyg | ++ | 16:46 |
| markvoelker | catherineD: I'm of the opinion that extensions an verticals are both ok to be in-project-tree rather than in-tempest-tree. Neither are govered by the existing TC resolution anyway. | 16:46 |
| zhipeng_ | ++ | 16:47 |
| Rockyg | I'm also thinking we should maybe have a *real* session at PTG getting all the devs interested onboarded wih what we do and iron out any bumps | 16:47 |
| catherineD | markvoelker: if we all agree ... those should be document somewhere | 16:47 |
| Rockyg | Resolution. Like the TC | 16:47 |
| catherineD | so we can use that as reference to clear up the confusion | 16:47 |
| Rockyg | Or, really, somewhere in our process docs or hacking.... | 16:48 |
| catherineD | Rockyg: ++ | 16:48 |
| markvoelker | Yeah, I'm increasingly thinking that another ML thread is actually probably the wrong way to do this. Maybe I should just submit a doc patch to our repo outlining what we're thinking and then send out ML messages inviting comment. | 16:48 |
| Rockyg | I think Process docs. Chapter on extensions | 16:48 |
| Rockyg | ++ | 16:48 |
| markvoelker | Any objections to that plan? | 16:49 |
| Rockyg | Having a base that is not changing to reference will help the list discussion | 16:49 |
| catherineD | My impression is that hogepodge: would like the extension tests (chosen by the project team) but reside in tempest tree... I may be mistaken | 16:49 |
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| Rockyg | I think hogepodge would be okay with either. | 16:49 |
| hogepodge | catherineD: no, extension tests can live anywhere. | 16:50 |
| Rockyg | thanks, hogepodge | 16:50 |
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| catherineD | hogepodge: thanks for clarifying ... | 16:50 |
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| markvoelker | Ok, I will do my best to draft up something later today or tomorrow and send it out then. | 16:51 |
| markvoelker | #action markvoelker Draft up current thinking on extension/vertical programs, post doc patch, send emails | 16:52 |
| catherineD | next do we care whether the plugin code is in the project tree or on its own repos ... personally, I do not mind either way .. and that is one of the discussion point too | 16:52 |
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| Rockyg | thanks so much! we will need to respond quickly to review it if we want any honing before the ML discussion. | 16:52 |
| hogepodge | qa teams wants tests in their own repos out of project tree | 16:53 |
| hogepodge | but some projects are pushing back against that | 16:53 |
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| Rockyg | If it's in project tree, the tests will be versioned. If plugin tree, not necessarilyl | 16:53 |
| markvoelker | catherineD: from a refstack perspective we can handle either, right? | 16:53 |
| hogepodge | It's just tempest plugin either way from what I understand. That's the refstack requirement. | 16:54 |
| catherineD | yea we can handle plugin and really do not care the location ... | 16:54 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: exactly. There's a bit of a mechanical concern in terms of "how do I download the tests" (e.g. which repos to clone) but that seems trivial in my mind. | 16:54 |
| luzC | I think for reftack is better to have it test cases separated otherwise when installing the plugin you have to install the project dependencies, etc | 16:54 |
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| markvoelker | So I think my opinion here is that I | 16:55 |
| catherineD | luzC: ++ | 16:55 |
| markvoelker | 'm pretty unopinionated about whether they live in a separate repo or not. =p | 16:55 |
| markvoelker | It's really a question that has more impact on the proejcts and QA than on us, so feels like a thing they should hash out and let us know what they decide. | 16:56 |
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| Rockyg | ++ | 16:56 |
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| markvoelker | Ok, in the interest of time I'll propose that I write it up to that effect and people with stronger opinions (which may be you!) can add comments to the review | 16:57 |
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| Rockyg | ++ | 16:57 |
| hogepodge | markvoelker: this is related to the efforts https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430556/ | 16:57 |
| luzC | what about the quality of the test cases, or tracking the changes on different repos... is that still business as usual for us? | 16:58 |
| hogepodge | I've resumed work on it | 16:58 |
| hogepodge | everyone please review and add comments. I'll start drafting up the official schema and translation of v1 -> v2 after comments have been received | 16:58 |
| markvoelker | luzC: I generally think we want the projects to be aware of what criteria we're using and decide on tests for themselves. We can be a final approval layer, but I would like the projects themselves to be most vested. | 16:58 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge: thanks for that. I am way overdue on this one, will do my best to get on it shortly. | 16:59 |
| catherineD | markvoelker: agree .. especially the project team will be the one choosing the tests | 16:59 |
| Rockyg | luzC, ++ that's the reason for ptg session | 16:59 |
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| * markvoelker has got to stop spending so much time on planes | 17:00 | |
| markvoelker | And with that, I'm afraid we are out of time. | 17:00 |
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| markvoelker | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 7 17:00:16 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-06-07-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-06-07-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2017/interopwg.2017-06-07-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
| Rockyg | sorry, I meant ++ markvoelker | 17:00 |
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| mguiney | have a good day, y'all | 17:02 |
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| robcresswell | #startmeeting horizon | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 7 20:00:46 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
| robcresswell | o/ | 20:01 |
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| lucasxu | o/ | 20:01 |
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| robcresswell | Hey everyone | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | #topic Notices | 20:02 |
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| robcresswell | Only one quick announcement today; tomorrow is Pike-2 milestone, so I'll be doing some stability checking then tagging that tomorrow | 20:02 |
| robcresswell | There's a few big blueprints that are making good progress; QoS, Trunks, Overview rewrite | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | I think thats most of the big ticket items... | 20:04 |
| robcresswell | Any other announcements to make? | 20:05 |
| e0ne | hi | 20:05 |
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| robcresswell | #topic Open Discussion | 20:06 |
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| robcresswell | Open floor! Any questions, blueprints, bugs, patches, all welcome :) | 20:07 |
| lucasxu | lil | 20:07 |
| lucasxu | oops : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450566/ | 20:07 |
| e0ne | I hope, it will be a very quick | 20:08 |
| e0ne | I would like to ask about ddt https://review.openstack.org/468058 once more | 20:08 |
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| e0ne | should I abandon this patch or we'll go forward with it? | 20:08 |
| lucasxu | I am wondering if I could do anything for that patch | 20:08 |
| robcresswell | e0ne: I'm not sure its a big enough advantage to fracture the code base | 20:10 |
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| e0ne | lucasxu: I'm not sure that it fits openstack stable maint. policies:( | 20:10 |
| robcresswell | lucasxu: It looks like we'll need something else in master and than squash it, cant backport incompatible changes | 20:11 |
| e0ne | robcresswell: I won't argue more. Everything is in a patch. | 20:11 |
| lucasxu | eOne, really? I thought nobody gonna use volume as the v1 endpoint | 20:11 |
| e0ne | robcresswell: if community doesn't like this approach - I'll abandon the patch | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | lucasxu: If I understand, the problem is that the endpoint could be 'volume' and still be v3 | 20:12 |
| e0ne | lucasxu: I hope nobody uses cinder v1 | 20:12 |
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| lucasxu | robcresswell, you are right. But normally, you won't configure 'volume' to be the v3 endpoint. you have 'volumev3' But yeah, somebody will | 20:13 |
| lucasxu | e0ne, m2 hah | 20:13 |
| e0ne | :) | 20:13 |
| robcresswell | I didnt realise the service names could be configured, tbh, I thought it was just the endpoint names | 20:14 |
| robcresswell | as in, cinderv3 is volumev3 | 20:14 |
| robcresswell | in devstack, for example | 20:14 |
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| lucasxu | yeah, so I don't know what to do for this patch now. | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | its a bizarre one, because couldn't this apply for any service? | 20:16 |
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| robcresswell | We do checks for compute etc | 20:17 |
| lucasxu | hmm, idk. You could delete the nova endpoint for example and add it back with a different name called novav2? | 20:17 |
| lucasxu | okay | 20:17 |
| robcresswell | amotoki: Around? | 20:17 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 20:18 |
| robcresswell | o/ | 20:18 |
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| david-lyle | *late | 20:19 |
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| robcresswell | david-lyle: Know anything about configurable service names? | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | Like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450566/ | 20:19 |
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| david-lyle | robcresswell, name or type? | 20:20 |
| david-lyle | type should not be configurable, name is | 20:20 |
| robcresswell | type, thats what we check | 20:20 |
| david-lyle | but all of those checks are for name | 20:21 |
| david-lyle | err type | 20:21 |
| david-lyle | names are fair game | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | right, thats what I thought | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | yeah | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | but if we're checking type, that should be reliable | 20:21 |
| david-lyle | yes, type should not change | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | but apparently a cinder v3 endpoint can have a type 'volume' or 'volumev3' | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | thats what amotoki is saying, at least :/ | 20:21 |
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| david-lyle | cinder has 3 endpoints possible, I believe | 20:22 |
| robcresswell | yeah, one for each major api version | 20:22 |
| david-lyle | volume and volumev2 for sure, I think volumev3 maybe? | 20:22 |
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| lucasxu | volume for cinder v1 and it should be deprecated I think | 20:23 |
| david-lyle | I'm not sure amotoki's concern is valid, but still reading | 20:23 |
| e0ne_ | v2 is also deprecated but used | 20:23 |
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| lucasxu | so now more likely it is volumev2 and volumev3 I believe | 20:24 |
| robcresswell | v1 is dead afaik | 20:24 |
| lucasxu | e0ne, yeah, you are right, even v2 deprecated | 20:25 |
| e0ne_ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/611765/ - cinder endpoints on devstack | 20:25 |
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| e0ne_ | lucasxu: nit: my nickname is with a 'zero' symbol | 20:25 |
| lucasxu | e0ne_, hah, I notice that but I forgot the underscore | 20:26 |
| e0ne_ | oops, my fault :( | 20:26 |
| lucasxu | robcresswell, anyways, we could discuss this on gerrit. Thanks for your time | 20:27 |
| lucasxu | dw. | 20:27 |
| david-lyle | should line 548 not be checking for volume OR volumev2? | 20:27 |
| david-lyle | then we don't break backward compatibility? | 20:28 |
| lucasxu | david-lyle, volume is for v1 and we don't support v1 any longer so that's why I am checking v2 / v3 | 20:29 |
| david-lyle | sure we do | 20:29 |
| david-lyle | horizon usually supports older versions even if deprecated for some time | 20:29 |
| david-lyle | the only thing we've really booted support for was nova-net | 20:30 |
| david-lyle | s/booted/removed/ | 20:30 |
| robcresswell | david-lyle: We don't support it in master any more. It's been eol for several cycles afaik. | 20:30 |
| david-lyle | in ocata though? | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | isn't that the target branch? | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | you can edit cherry-picks | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | you just have to add the justification in the commit message | 20:31 |
| david-lyle | maybe I missed too much of the conversation | 20:32 |
| robcresswell | Yeah, we'd need to support all 3 for ocata | 20:32 |
| robcresswell | Cinder guys are saying we can rely on it being 'volumev3', FYI. | 20:33 |
| david-lyle | types are fixed for openstack services | 20:33 |
| robcresswell | it seems ambiguous, the cinder guys said thats only if following best practices | 20:34 |
| robcresswell | Though I'm happy with that; if someone wants to go crazy with custom config thats their problem. | 20:35 |
| david-lyle | if those practices aren't followed, Horizon fails to work | 20:35 |
| david-lyle | for all services | 20:35 |
| robcresswell | +1 | 20:35 |
| robcresswell | yup | 20:35 |
| smcginnis | david-lyle: So will Cinder most likely. | 20:35 |
| lucasxu | sounds good | 20:35 |
| robcresswell | that was what I was confused about, since we do those type checks all over; I was confused about why it was suddenly an issue. | 20:35 |
| lucasxu | hah. thanks guys. | 20:36 |
| david-lyle | I think the random dropping of 'volume' in ocata was the issue | 20:36 |
| robcresswell | anyway, thats mostly resolved :) | 20:36 |
| robcresswell | yeah | 20:36 |
| david-lyle | just not clearly articulated | 20:36 |
| robcresswell | We shouldnt remove that support post-release, at least. | 20:37 |
| david-lyle | if this is a backport, and the cherry-pick is edited, I'm not sure what's left to change on master? | 20:37 |
| robcresswell | nothing | 20:38 |
| robcresswell | master can stay as-is, but the cherry pick needs altering if we want to backport it | 20:38 |
| david-lyle | misread you previous comment, ignore my last question | 20:38 |
| robcresswell | :) | 20:40 |
| robcresswell | Any other questions or issues anyone would like to discuss? | 20:40 |
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| david-lyle | robcresswell, #endmeeting :) | 20:47 |
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| lucasxu | LOL I think he's gone | 20:50 |
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| robcresswell | david-lyle, lucasxu: Ha, forgot to hit send | 20:57 |
| robcresswell | Thanks everyone! | 20:57 |
| robcresswell | #endmeeting | 20:57 |
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| e0ne | see you next week | 20:58 |
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