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| seanhandley | Hi zhipeng yankcrime o/ | 14:00 |
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| yankcrime | \o | 14:00 |
| seanhandley | tobberydberg is a little snowed under today so I'll be moderating the meeting | 14:01 |
| seanhandley | #startmeeting publiccloud-wg | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 5 14:01:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is seanhandley. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg' | 14:01 |
| seanhandley | Anyone else here for the public cloud WG meeting? | 14:01 |
| seanhandley | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg | 14:01 |
| seanhandley | Please add your name to the etherpad :) | 14:01 |
| Labedz | o/ | 14:01 |
| seanhandley | hi Labedz o/ | 14:01 |
| Labedz | hi | 14:01 |
| seanhandley | We'll wait a couple more minutes for latecomers then get started | 14:02 |
| zhipeng | o/ | 14:02 |
| seanhandley | hi zhipeng :) | 14:03 |
| zhipeng | Hi Sean | 14:03 |
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| seanhandley | Ok let's get started | 14:05 |
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| seanhandley | First item, last weeks's APs | 14:05 |
| seanhandley | #topic Last meeting's action points | 14:05 |
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| seanhandley | So it was assigned to me to discuss the idea of the OpenStack Public Cloud Passport with Flanders from the OpenStack Foundation | 14:06 |
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| seanhandley | Basically, he wants this working group to take ownership of the design for how such a scheme would work technically | 14:06 |
| seanhandley | so it's up to us how it should work | 14:07 |
| seanhandley | if we need infrastructure to support it then the Foundation will provide it | 14:07 |
| yankcrime | what is it? | 14:07 |
| seanhandley | The Public Cloud Passport will be a scheme where users are effectively given some free credit that is valid on all participating OpenStack public clouds | 14:08 |
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| zhipeng | i think the foundation mkt team could help design the form of the passport | 14:08 |
| seanhandley | there'll be some Foundation-specific branding and likely some centralised token validation authority that each cloud dials into when a user supplies their unique code | 14:09 |
| seanhandley | basically it's down to us to figure out a working technical solution | 14:09 |
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| seanhandley | and they'll help us build/maintain it | 14:09 |
| zhipeng | i think promo schemes should left the public cloud providers | 14:10 |
| zhipeng | should avoid a grand centralised design | 14:10 |
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| zhipeng | that will cost much more time | 14:10 |
| tobberydberg | o/ | 14:10 |
| seanhandley | hey tobberydberg | 14:10 |
| tobberydberg | Taking passive role today.... | 14:10 |
| yankcrime | i would assume that the foundation's reach is > any individual public cloud providers, at least the ones interested in participating | 14:11 |
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| tobberydberg | Will read up later =) | 14:11 |
| seanhandley | zhipeng: There'll have to be some single source of truth for valid tokens though | 14:11 |
| seanhandley | and it makes sense for it to belong to the Foundation because they'll be the ones handing out the Passports | 14:11 |
| Labedz | do you consider any 'implementation' meeting about passport? | 14:11 |
| seanhandley | Yes, I think it's worth considered discussion around a whiteboard Labedz | 14:12 |
| Labedz | like how to take care about legal stuff? | 14:12 |
| Labedz | k | 14:12 |
| zhipeng | the passport is a mkt campaign that will help promote the notion of OpenStack public cloud | 14:12 |
| seanhandley | We're planning to run a couple of Public Cloud Working Group meetups before the Sydney Summit | 14:13 |
| seanhandley | One in London at OpenStack Days London in September | 14:13 |
| seanhandley | and another in Copenhagen for OpenStack Days Nordic in October | 14:13 |
| seanhandley | Labedz: Can you make it to either of those? | 14:13 |
| Labedz | hard to say now :} | 14:14 |
| zhipeng | seanhandley shall we start meetup groups for that ? | 14:14 |
| Labedz | for sure will try | 14:14 |
| seanhandley | (I know Howard, myself, Nick and Tobias will be there) | 14:14 |
| seanhandley | Would be great to have OVH at the table Labedz :) | 14:14 |
| seanhandley | zhipeng: That's a great idea | 14:14 |
| Labedz | we will be for sure in FR ;) | 14:14 |
| zhipeng | we also need to write some material for the meetup series, so that Sydney Summit the foundation keynote could help promote | 14:14 |
| seanhandley | #action Howard to create Meetup groups for the Public Cloud WG Meetups at OpenStack Days UK and Nordic | 14:14 |
| yankcrime | Labedz: is this something you think OVH would participate in? | 14:15 |
| Labedz | yankcrime: I think so | 14:15 |
| yankcrime | cool :) | 14:15 |
| seanhandley | zhipeng: Do you want to take on the task of writing that material? | 14:15 |
| zhipeng | seanhandley I don't think I could handle that only by myself :P | 14:16 |
| zhipeng | but we could do it around two weeks before Sydney | 14:16 |
| zhipeng | to summarize the meetups so far | 14:16 |
| seanhandley | Ok - would you write down some rough thoughts you have about it in a google doc and I'll collaborate with you on it? | 14:16 |
| zhipeng | sure | 14:16 |
| seanhandley | #action Howard and Sean to begin writing up some public cloud WG material ahead of the Sydney Summit | 14:17 |
| seanhandley | Cool. Any more thoughts before we move onto our next topic? | 14:18 |
| seanhandley | Ok! Onto the goals for the Sydney Summit | 14:18 |
| seanhandley | #topic Decide on goals for the Sydney Summit | 14:19 |
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| seanhandley | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SYDNEY_GOALS_publiccloud-wg | 14:19 |
| seanhandley | See the Etherpad above for what we came up with previously | 14:19 |
| seanhandley | Flanders' advice is that we pick a single achievable goal and give it the majority of our focus | 14:19 |
| seanhandley | The EU meetups are piggybacking off existing conferences so they're effectively organised already | 14:20 |
| zhipeng | yep :) | 14:20 |
| seanhandley | Rather than do a vote, I want each of us to say which item in that goals list should be focussed on | 14:21 |
| seanhandley | (because I'm too lazy to curate them all into voting form) | 14:21 |
| seanhandley | anyone want to start? | 14:22 |
| zhipeng | i think the feature list and eu meetup series | 14:22 |
| seanhandley | or should I pick on someone :P | 14:22 |
| zhipeng | are two goals that we could achieve | 14:22 |
| zhipeng | passport is a little bit depending on each company | 14:23 |
| yankcrime | collaborating on missing features is a no-brainer | 14:23 |
| seanhandley | thoughts tobberydberg Labedz ? | 14:23 |
| seanhandley | Ok, none :D | 14:26 |
| tobberydberg | Agree, but think that we should have passport as a goal as well | 14:26 |
| seanhandley | I agree tobberydberg | 14:26 |
| tobberydberg | if fail, we have a head start for next summit | 14:26 |
| seanhandley | "Work on missing features" is vague | 14:26 |
| seanhandley | and it takes a cycle or two to get work into an OpenStack project | 14:26 |
| seanhandley | I'd hope we keep working on the missing features as a background task | 14:27 |
| seanhandley | and I'd like to see them drawn up as specs | 14:27 |
| seanhandley | but it's unlikely we can deliver any changes before the Sydney summit | 14:27 |
| zhipeng | yes, but at the mean time, the missing feature itself should be a work product | 14:27 |
| zhipeng | taht our working group could share with the community each cycle | 14:27 |
| zhipeng | that~~ | 14:28 |
| yankcrime | i think it needs a step back from that, it needs a process agreeing that participating public cloud operators can discuss and vote for missing features, and then volunteer to write blueprints and fund development | 14:28 |
| yankcrime | so the focus should be getting that process agreed and formalised | 14:28 |
| yankcrime | then it becomes a background task | 14:28 |
| yankcrime | afaik there's nothing analogous within the openstack community to that already | 14:29 |
| yankcrime | i could be wrong though | 14:29 |
| seanhandley | That's sort of already happening Nick: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Mf8OAyTzZxCKzYHMgBl-QK_2-XSycSkOjqCyMTIedkA/edit#gid=0 | 14:29 |
| yankcrime | that's just a spreadsheet seanhandley | 14:29 |
| zhipeng | the list should be reviewed each cycle | 14:29 |
| zhipeng | agree with yankcrime that we need a process to consensus on the missing features | 14:29 |
| seanhandley | Yes, but people are referencing specs from it, marking their interest, and stating if it's currently being worked on | 14:29 |
| yankcrime | what's the process for adding stuff to it? do i just edit it? when does it get reviewed? | 14:30 |
| Labedz | Do we know if any of us (from this WG) are working on any specific subject from our feature list by himself? | 14:30 |
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| zhipeng | but i think it is doable for us to deliver the first version of the feature document before Sydney | 14:30 |
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| seanhandley | I agree it's not ideal and it needs moving into the correct parts of the OpenStack process | 14:30 |
| zhipeng | yankcrime anyone should be able to add it, but we do need a process to pick the important features | 14:31 |
| zhipeng | that most of us agreed upon | 14:31 |
| yankcrime | it at least needs a wiki page linking off the public cloud wg calling attention to it | 14:31 |
| zhipeng | wiki page sounds like a great idea :) | 14:31 |
| seanhandley | How do other WGs accomplish their tasks? | 14:31 |
| zhipeng | they find volunteers mostly | 14:32 |
| seanhandley | Yes but how in terms of backlog management | 14:32 |
| seanhandley | their ideas have to exist somewhere | 14:32 |
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| seanhandley | specs/blueprints? wikis? | 14:32 |
| seanhandley | and I agree a spreadsheet isn't great long term | 14:32 |
| seanhandley | it lacks visibility for one | 14:32 |
| zhipeng | wiki would be a good choice | 14:33 |
| yankcrime | the scientific wg have 'activity areas' | 14:33 |
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| yankcrime | "Every OpenStack development cycle, four activity areas are selected to focus on, and working group members gather data on problems and solutions in areas that affect them." | 14:33 |
| yankcrime | there's wiki pages off the scientific wg for each of those | 14:33 |
| seanhandley | ok | 14:34 |
| seanhandley | so wiki is the answer then :) | 14:34 |
| seanhandley | So is it a reasonable summit goal to have moved our features list onto the wiki and have it prioritised somehow? | 14:34 |
| zhipeng | i think so | 14:35 |
| seanhandley | Ok | 14:35 |
| seanhandley | Perhaps a poll needs sending out | 14:35 |
| seanhandley | We list all the features and have public cloud reps number them in order | 14:36 |
| seanhandley | 1 being highest priority etc | 14:36 |
| yankcrime | yup, and also wrapped up in a bit of documentation somewhere that says stuff like here's where you can suggest new ideas and vote for existing ones, here's when you can discuss them, here's what happens when there's sufficent votes, and options for collaboration | 14:36 |
| seanhandley | Sounds good yankcrime | 14:36 |
| zhipeng | sounds very good :) | 14:36 |
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| seanhandley | Any volunteers to make a start on that process? | 14:36 |
| yankcrime | tumbleweed.gif | 14:37 |
| yankcrime | ;) | 14:37 |
| yankcrime | i'll do it | 14:37 |
| seanhandley | nice one Nick | 14:37 |
| seanhandley | #action Nick to update our wg wiki with information about how to get involved, and also moving features onto the wiki for better community visibility | 14:38 |
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| seanhandley | So that's achievable by the Sydney Summit in November | 14:39 |
| seanhandley | I also think the Public Cloud Passport stuff is achievable by the Summit | 14:39 |
| seanhandley | and I think it's worth pouring some time and effort in | 14:39 |
| seanhandley | once there's a framework for it, public clouds can integrate against it at their leisure | 14:39 |
| seanhandley | and ultimately it's a very simple service | 14:40 |
| seanhandley | the authority creates unique tokens and then they're given to users | 14:40 |
| Labedz | do we have a blueprint already? | 14:40 |
| seanhandley | when a user supplies that token to a public cloud they check it against the OpenStack authority and it gets validated | 14:40 |
| seanhandley | and then it gets marked as "used" | 14:40 |
| seanhandley | and they honour the commitment to the amount of credit associated | 14:41 |
| seanhandley | no Labedz | 14:41 |
| seanhandley | But I'm sure I could build a POC fairly quickly and then write it up as a blueprint | 14:41 |
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| zhipeng | seanhandley sso like ? | 14:41 |
| Labedz | great | 14:41 |
| seanhandley | yeah zhipeng | 14:41 |
| seanhandley | I'll discuss it with Flanders more before the next meeting and come up with a rough working model to share with the group | 14:42 |
| zhipeng | plz also cc me and tobias | 14:42 |
| seanhandley | #action Sean to discuss Public Cloud Passport with Flanders more before the next meeting and come up with a rough working model to share with the group | 14:42 |
| seanhandley | Will do zhipeng | 14:42 |
| seanhandley | I think it'd be neat to have this done by Sydney - would make for a great point in the keynotes | 14:42 |
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| zhipeng | yes it would be a plus for us :) | 14:43 |
| seanhandley | Cool. I'll update the etherpad | 14:43 |
| zhipeng | so does it mean we could officially propose our wg to the UC ? | 14:44 |
| zhipeng | to have us formally recognized ? | 14:44 |
| zhipeng | with our goals pretty much agreed today | 14:44 |
| seanhandley | I'm not sure zhipeng | 14:44 |
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| seanhandley | Hopefully - who do we talk to? | 14:45 |
| seanhandley | tobberydberg: Maybe that's a good AP for you this next two weeks? | 14:45 |
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| seanhandley | Guess he's busy. He won't mind :D | 14:46 |
| seanhandley | #action Tobias to get the wg officially proposed to the UC using the goals we've agreed for the Sydney Summit | 14:46 |
| seanhandley | Ok, next topic... | 14:46 |
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| seanhandley | #topic Submit OpenStack Summit Forum session(s) before July 14th | 14:47 |
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| seanhandley | Does anyone have any thoughts on Forum Sessions we should be running in Sydney? | 14:47 |
| seanhandley | I guess this is tricky because it needs us to have conference attendance confirmed... | 14:48 |
| zhipeng | yes ... | 14:48 |
| zhipeng | missing feature discussion will continue to be a hit I guess :) | 14:49 |
| seanhandley | Definitely zhipeng | 14:49 |
| zhipeng | not sure about more possible session topics | 14:49 |
| seanhandley | that's good enough at this stage tbh | 14:49 |
| seanhandley | Are you definitely attending? | 14:49 |
| zhipeng | i'm not sure as well ... | 14:50 |
| seanhandley | I know Tobias hasn't had his attendance confirmed yet - and nobody from DataCentred either | 14:50 |
| seanhandley | Labedz ? | 14:50 |
| Labedz | probably somebody from OVH will be ther | 14:50 |
| Labedz | *there | 14:50 |
| seanhandley | Right | 14:51 |
| seanhandley | In that case | 14:51 |
| seanhandley | zhipeng: Would you submit a proposal via https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/call-for-presentations/ ? | 14:51 |
| seanhandley | and if necessary we'll change who's chairing it | 14:51 |
| seanhandley | Or I can do it also | 14:52 |
| Labedz | you mean Forum Session for Public Cloud WG? | 14:52 |
| seanhandley | The main thing is to be on the timetable - chairing the fishbowl shouldn't be too demanding | 14:52 |
| seanhandley | Yeah Labedz | 14:52 |
| Labedz | ok | 14:52 |
| seanhandley | we did a couple at the Boston Summit | 14:52 |
| zhipeng | seanhandley is there a limit on Forum topic as well ? | 14:53 |
| seanhandley | I'm not actually sure... | 14:53 |
| zhipeng | there is a three topic per person limitation on the general session | 14:53 |
| seanhandley | But the deadline will have elapsed before our next WG meeting | 14:53 |
| seanhandley | ahh have you already got proposals submitted? | 14:53 |
| zhipeng | no, not yet | 14:54 |
| seanhandley | Thing is, I know for certain I'm not going to be there | 14:55 |
| seanhandley | I'm happy to submit the proposal but it won't be me chairing it | 14:55 |
| seanhandley | We're almost out of time | 14:55 |
| zhipeng | seanhandley I think that could be managed | 14:55 |
| seanhandley | I tell you what zhipeng - let's figure it out after this meeting over in the #openstack-publiccloud channel? | 14:56 |
| seanhandley | the main thing is someone makes sure a proposal is put forward | 14:56 |
| zhipeng | cool | 14:56 |
| zhipeng | yes | 14:57 |
| seanhandley | so I'll make sure that happens, somehow | 14:57 |
| seanhandley | #action Sean to make sure we get a Forum session proposal in for a missing features fishbowl at Sydney | 14:57 |
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| seanhandley | and we're done with 3 minutes to spare :D | 14:57 |
| seanhandley | #topic Any other business? | 14:57 |
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| seanhandley | Labedz: I see you added "Do we have track of current OpenStack infras issues in-house 'work in progress' ?" to the Etherpad | 14:58 |
| Labedz | yeap - as far as I see we are talking about missing features | 14:59 |
| Labedz | but for sure any of us are working on something daily | 14:59 |
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| Labedz | maybe we are fixing the same issues :) | 14:59 |
| seanhandley | Yes - that's true | 14:59 |
| Labedz | Is it good idea to have some kind of track of that? | 14:59 |
| seanhandley | Definitely. | 14:59 |
| seanhandley | zhipeng: Does the spreadsheet have a column for that? | 15:00 |
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| seanhandley | (and when it gets put on the wiki we'll have some info about it) | 15:00 |
| zhipeng | i think so | 15:00 |
| seanhandley | Is it the "Status" column? | 15:01 |
| zhipeng | yes | 15:01 |
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| seanhandley | Perhaps a "Who's working on this?" column too - not a perfect solution, but it'd help | 15:01 |
| prometheanfire | hi | 15:01 |
| Labedz | seanhandley: good begining, we could improve later if needed | 15:01 |
| seanhandley | ok :) | 15:02 |
| seanhandley | Time to finish up then guys - thanks for coming - lots of stuff to talk about next time! | 15:02 |
| seanhandley | #endmeeting | 15:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 5 15:02:30 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-07-05-14.01.html | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-07-05-14.01.txt | 15:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2017/publiccloud_wg.2017-07-05-14.01.log.html | 15:02 |
| Labedz | thx | 15:02 |
| zhipeng | great meeting sean | 15:02 |
| prometheanfire | #startmeeting requirements | 15:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 5 15:03:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is prometheanfire. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' | 15:03 |
| prometheanfire | #topic rollcall | 15:03 |
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| prometheanfire | o/ | 15:03 |
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| prometheanfire | well if it's just me I'm gonna end early :| | 15:06 |
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| prometheanfire | next week I imagine the time will be changing to 3 hours earlier (10:00 UTC iirc) | 15:06 |
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| prometheanfire | #endmeeting | 15:13 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2017/requirements.2017-07-05-15.03.html | 15:13 |
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| dansmith | #startmeeting nova_cells | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 5 17:00:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dansmith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_cells' | 17:00 |
| dansmith | who dat | 17:00 |
| dtp | hallo | 17:00 |
| melwitt | o/ | 17:00 |
| dansmith | heh, mriedem said he was coming | 17:01 |
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| melwitt | maybe he's going to be fashionably late | 17:01 |
| mriedem | i'm here | 17:01 |
| dansmith | #topic boogs | 17:01 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: I dunno where your updates fall, but.. any new bugs to report? | 17:01 |
| mriedem | we have a shitload of bugs in general, | 17:01 |
| mriedem | so i don't know if we have new cells related bugs | 17:02 |
| dansmith | I'll take it | 17:02 |
| mriedem | so nothing to mention | 17:02 |
| dansmith | anyone else? | 17:02 |
| dansmith | okay then | 17:02 |
| dansmith | #topic open reviews | 17:02 |
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| dansmith | melwitt's series is getting whittled down | 17:03 |
| dansmith | the bottom one is the instance counting one which is big | 17:03 |
| dansmith | I just took a quick run through that myself | 17:03 |
| dansmith | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416521 | 17:03 |
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| melwitt | kewl | 17:04 |
| dansmith | aide from that, I have this up that needs review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445142/ | 17:04 |
| dansmith | hopefully not too bad | 17:04 |
| dansmith | just a reminder that the devstack and gate cellsv2 change hinges on getting melwitt's series in | 17:04 |
| dansmith | and it would be good to have soak time on that for pike, so not waiting until the last minute would be good | 17:04 |
| dtp | anything i can do to help there? | 17:05 |
| dansmith | dtp: reviews are always helpful | 17:05 |
| dtp | k | 17:05 |
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| dansmith | melwitt: anything else you want to highlight? like the console stuff or something? | 17:05 |
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| melwitt | dansmith: yeah, so I went through the console stuff and I *think* things would Just Work if I take out the instance uuid from the access url parts of the series, if we said we have to run one console proxy per cell | 17:06 |
| dansmith | melwitt: okay are you going to have time to push that along? | 17:07 |
| melwitt | yeah, I think it's a small change. the bigger thing will be making sure it works that way and how it would work during a transition from the old way to the new way | 17:08 |
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| melwitt | like, I don't know if we'll be able to set that up in our multi cell devstack thing | 17:08 |
| dansmith | well, at least getting the small change in means we could potentially get operator feedback on the latter | 17:08 |
| melwitt | that's true | 17:08 |
| dansmith | unfortunately, none of the operators that said they were going to help test this stuff during pike seem to have shown up to actually do it :/ | 17:08 |
| mriedem | i think | 17:09 |
| mriedem | , | 17:09 |
| dansmith | perhaps I should email some people | 17:09 |
| mriedem | if we want operators to test something or help, | 17:09 |
| mriedem | yeah, we are going to have to push and provide specific stuff we need help with | 17:09 |
| dansmith | mriedem: belmiro said in ATL he'd be coming to this meeting | 17:09 |
| mriedem | tz might not work, idk | 17:09 |
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| dansmith | this slot does | 17:10 |
| dansmith | anyway | 17:10 |
| mriedem | but we can also blast the mailing list if we have specifics | 17:10 |
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| dansmith | well, setting up two cells and poking at things is the only specific at the moment I think | 17:10 |
| dansmith | but anyway | 17:10 |
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| dansmith | okay so.. any other open reviews to point to? | 17:11 |
| mriedem | yeah, | 17:11 |
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| mriedem | so my thing was the services/hypervisors uuid in api series is ready for review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471899/ | 17:11 |
| mriedem | the bottom change is -2 since they need to go together for the same microversion, | 17:12 |
| dansmith | okay | 17:12 |
| mriedem | so the top change change needs to be ready to go as well | 17:12 |
| mriedem | and then i guess we either squash them (yuck), or -2 all other microversion changes and push these through | 17:12 |
| dansmith | looks like dtp has reviewed that? | 17:12 |
| mriedem | like we did in newton with 2.36 | 17:12 |
| mriedem | yes | 17:12 |
| dansmith | cool | 17:12 |
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| mriedem | and alex reviewed a good chunk of the bottom change | 17:12 |
| dansmith | okay I'll go look after the meeting | 17:12 |
| dansmith | ah sweet | 17:12 |
| mriedem | the majority of it is tests and api samples | 17:12 |
| dansmith | aye | 17:13 |
| mriedem | , | 17:13 |
| mriedem | they get bloated because during the spec review, | 17:13 |
| mriedem | people wanted to take the opportunity to clean these apis up in other ways | 17:13 |
| mriedem | so that's also mixed in here | 17:13 |
| dansmith | alright | 17:13 |
| mriedem | but the net should be less suck overall | 17:14 |
| mriedem | that's it | 17:14 |
| dansmith | anything else? | 17:14 |
| dansmith | from anyone? | 17:14 |
| dansmith | (on reviews) | 17:14 |
| dansmith | #topic open discussion | 17:15 |
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| dansmith | anything else here? | 17:15 |
| dansmith | rants? | 17:15 |
| melwitt | heh | 17:15 |
| dtp | not from me | 17:15 |
| dansmith | okay then | 17:15 |
| dansmith | #endmeeting | 17:15 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2017/nova_cells.2017-07-05-17.00.html | 17:15 |
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| robcresswell | #startmeeting horizon | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 5 20:00:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
| robcresswell | o/ | 20:00 |
| ducttape_ | o/ | 20:00 |
| ying_zuo | o/ | 20:00 |
| pboutin | o/ | 20:00 |
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| robcresswell | Just going to wait a couple of minutes for people to drift in :) | 20:01 |
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| gary-smith | o/ | 20:03 |
| gugl | o/ | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | Alright, lets get started | 20:03 |
| robcresswell | #topic Notices | 20:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Notices (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:03 | |
| robcresswell | So, a couple things to go over | 20:03 |
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| robcresswell | #info Pike-3 (Feature Freeze and Requirements Freeze) is in 3 weeks time - 27th of July | 20:04 |
| robcresswell | #link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 20:04 |
| robcresswell | We've had a couple of volunteers to look into Django upgrades, so I've pushed through several patches to add non-voting Django 1.11 jobs, and bump the current cap to 1.10.x | 20:05 |
| robcresswell | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/dj111 | 20:06 |
| robcresswell | Fairly barebones atm, but I'll add content to it so people can track progress | 20:06 |
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| robcresswell | #info Django global-requirement upper bound pushed to <1.11, so the current version will be 1.10.x | 20:07 |
| robcresswell | #info Non-voting jobs for Django 1.11 have been added to Horizon and Django OpenStack Auth | 20:07 |
| rdopiera | o/ | 20:07 |
| robcresswell | There's always one... :p | 20:08 |
| rdopiera | sorry | 20:08 |
| robcresswell | haha, I'm only joking :) | 20:08 |
| rdopiera | me too, I'm not actually sorry | 20:08 |
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| robcresswell | Overall, please pay attention to the time; blueprints need to be wrapped up ASAP. When choosing where to spend review time, please focus on features over bugfixes for now, as we will have several weeks to do bugfixes during the Release Candidate phase. | 20:09 |
| robcresswell | Horizon always has an RC2 for translations to merge, so there is a big window there. | 20:10 |
| gugl | k | 20:10 |
| robcresswell | Other than that, remember that PTG travel will only get more expensive so get that sorted out soon :) | 20:10 |
| jeremy_moffitt | is the easiest way to tell whether something is a feature or bug the branch name? (assuming folks follow the pattern) | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | It's really helpful to be able to discuss the direction of the community, and understand people's time commitments and priorities, as well as nice to have face to face time. | 20:11 |
| jeremy_moffitt | at a glance I mean, the commit message obviously includes links | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | jeremy_moffitt: If its tagged correctly, it should be "bp/*" | 20:11 |
| jeremy_moffitt | great, thanks | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | so, yes :) | 20:11 |
| robcresswell | jeremy_moffitt: Alternatively, just look at https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/pike-3 | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | I have a big patch to push for the overview rewrite, hopefully in the next couple days. | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | Thats all for notices | 20:12 |
| robcresswell | #topic Open Discussion | 20:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:13 | |
| robcresswell | So, open floor! Please feel free to discuss any bugs, blueprints, patches, silly questions ("how duz i horizon"), etc. | 20:13 |
| pboutin | Well, my time to shine ! | 20:13 |
| robcresswell | haha | 20:14 |
| pboutin | (new here, hello folks !) We just upgraded our Horizon to Ocata, and it looks like a policy is not correctly supported. If you create an image, the "publicized" input is always visible, even if the glance policy state that you can't | 20:15 |
| ying_zuo | there's a bug for it | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1698490 | 20:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1698490 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Non-admin users shouldn't be able to create public images" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Ying Zuo (yingzuo) | 20:15 |
| robcresswell | That one ^^ ? | 20:16 |
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| ying_zuo | will be fixed with this commit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475651/ | 20:16 |
| ying_zuo | right. Rob. you got it. | 20:16 |
| pboutin | oh nice, it almost looks like my fix | 20:16 |
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| pboutin | so bonus points for getting it right huh | 20:17 |
| pboutin | also, last point, in the Launch Instance modal, the default Source appears to be inconsistant | 20:17 |
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| ying_zuo | that's another one... | 20:17 |
| robcresswell | pboutin: That's fixed | 20:17 |
| pboutin | oh well | 20:18 |
| ying_zuo | yes, I remember it was merged | 20:18 |
| rdopiera | one step ahead of you :) | 20:18 |
| pboutin | now that I learned how the code works, I will have to learn how to browse these bugs huh | 20:18 |
| robcresswell | pboutin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473400/ | 20:18 |
| robcresswell | Patched, backported, and merged. | 20:18 |
| pboutin | well | 20:18 |
| rdopiera | pboutin: it probably helps to verify a bug on the code from the repo | 20:18 |
| pboutin | sorry for all this then :P | 20:18 |
| rdopiera | pboutin: no, we do need testing and bug reports | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | pboutin: You'll need the most recent stable release for Ocata, 11.0.3. But its all released etc :) | 20:19 |
| pboutin | will try to do my homeworks for next week :) | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | pboutin: No problem! We appreciate the feedback. Its nice that we can say when something has been fixed! | 20:19 |
| robcresswell | I've starred the image visibility change, so will review that a second time, since it looks like my feedback was addressed. | 20:20 |
| robcresswell | Should be able to backport that soon too. | 20:20 |
| ying_zuo | \o/ | 20:20 |
| robcresswell | It was mentioned a couple of times during feedback sessions | 20:20 |
| pboutin | cool, hope that I will be able to contribute on something sometine then | 20:20 |
| ying_zuo | \o/ | 20:21 |
| robcresswell | pboutin: Even just providing feedback and bugs in meetings is incredibly valuable. Many operators don't make / have the time to get involved :) So thanks for attending | 20:21 |
| pboutin | Good good :) | 20:23 |
| robcresswell | Any other bugs / patches / questions? I'll leave the meeting running for a while so everyone has time to gather their thoughts | 20:23 |
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| jeremy_moffitt | if you'd like another theme related change to review, theres https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318933/ but its not urgent | 20:26 |
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| robcresswell | jeremy_moffitt: Starred. Thats been around for ages. | 20:28 |
| robcresswell | jeremy_moffitt: I think the other change merged? I went to look at it last week but I think rdopiera beat me to it. | 20:28 |
| jeremy_moffitt | robcresswell: thanks! yes it did, rdopiera found a problem with the change, I fixed it and he pushed it through :) | 20:29 |
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| jeremy_moffitt | it was the happiest moment of my ... well... workday | 20:29 |
| robcresswell | jeremy_moffitt: haha, excellent | 20:29 |
| gugl | robcresswell, can you ask owner the bp to update the status to easy spot the one that need attention...for example, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/pike-docs-overhaul this one has all changes merged...but mark as good progress...it is nice to have | 20:30 |
| robcresswell | gugl: Ah thats my fault, I had another patch to push today but was scurrying out sorting the Django work | 20:30 |
| robcresswell | So I just left it as good progress | 20:31 |
| robcresswell | gugl: I'll review the others in the morning and update their status to make it easier to understand at a glance | 20:31 |
| gugl | robcresswell, ic...ok. thanks | 20:31 |
| robcresswell | gugl: No problem :) | 20:32 |
| pboutin | hmmm, which version of node/npm are you using to run your karma tests ? getting node crash when I try to spin 'em | 20:32 |
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| robcresswell | whatever is latest :) | 20:33 |
| * robcresswell checks | 20:33 | |
| robcresswell | pboutin: How are you running them? | 20:34 |
| pboutin | tried via "tox" and via "npm run test" | 20:34 |
| robcresswell | okay, interesting | 20:34 |
| pboutin | (after doing the npm install of course) | 20:34 |
| ying_zuo | tox -e npm | 20:35 |
| robcresswell | So I'm on npm 5.0.3 and node 8.1.3 atm | 20:35 |
| robcresswell | pboutin: Whats the bug you're seeing? | 20:36 |
| pboutin | oh, with "tox -e npm" i see the karma page that show up, now having "Uncaught ReferenceError: angular is not defined" | 20:37 |
| pboutin | thing i'll be able to move on with this | 20:37 |
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| robcresswell | hmm, okay | 20:38 |
| robcresswell | pboutin: Let us know if you need more debugging help | 20:38 |
| pboutin | sweet, thanks :) | 20:38 |
| robcresswell | Alright everyone, I think we can call it there | 20:43 |
| robcresswell | Thanks for attending! | 20:43 |
| robcresswell | #endmeeting | 20:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:43 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 5 20:43:25 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-07-05-20.00.html | 20:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-07-05-20.00.txt | 20:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2017/horizon.2017-07-05-20.00.log.html | 20:43 |
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