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| gcb | #startmeeting oslo | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 17 14:00:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gcb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, crushil, dansmith, dhellmann | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for dims, dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for GheRivero, haypo, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for kragniz, lhx_, lifeless, lxsli, Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for redrobot, rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek | 14:00 |
| crushil | \o | 14:01 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 14:01 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 14:01 |
| gcb | Hello everyone \o/ | 14:02 |
| gcb | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:02 | |
| gcb | Any red flags ? we'll fix them before our final releases this week | 14:02 |
| jungleboyj | Ah, for Cinder, just to make people aware, we were having tooz related issues late last week. | 14:03 |
| jungleboyj | Appeared there was an update there and then we started seeing threads die in the gate. | 14:04 |
| gcb | jungleboyj, have it been fixed ? | 14:04 |
| gcb | any bug link ? | 14:04 |
| jungleboyj | So, we updated global requirements to not use the latest code and have a bug open to the tooz guys. | 14:05 |
| jungleboyj | Just wanted to share here in case anyone else was seeing similar issues. Seemed like a relevant forum. | 14:05 |
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| gcb | a bug is appreciated, then we can figure out the root cause | 14:06 |
| crushil | jungleboyj, So, what test suite was failing in cinder because of this? | 14:06 |
| jungleboyj | It was random. Let me see if I can find the bug. | 14:06 |
| jungleboyj | You can go on. It will take me a bit to find it here. | 14:09 |
| gcb | jungleboyj, please file a bug or report the bug link, hope we can find the root cause before we release tooz | 14:09 |
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| gcb | #topic Releases for Pike | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases for Pike (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:09 | |
| jungleboyj | Will do. | 14:09 |
| gcb | https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html#p-final-lib | 14:09 |
| gcb | we should issue their final release during this week. That allows to give time for last-minute changes before feature freeze. | 14:10 |
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| gcb | I sent a email to let everyone focus on bug fix before this week. I plan to issue final releases on July 19, which gives us two days buffer to merge fix | 14:11 |
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| gcb | so please focus on bug fix these two days | 14:12 |
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| gcb | # topic PTL nomination for Queens | 14:13 |
| gcb | #topic PTL nomination for Queens | 14:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTL nomination for Queens (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:13 | |
| gcb | new cycle PTL selection will begin you can check the detailed schedule in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/481768/ | 14:14 |
| gcb | I won't run for PTL for Queens, I'm still in the team, | 14:14 |
| gcb | if someone will run for Oslo PTL, please talk to me, I would like to give some guidance as previous PTL did before | 14:15 |
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| bknudson | thanks for being the PTL this release | 14:16 |
| jungleboyj | bknudson: ++ | 14:17 |
| jungleboyj | Sorry to see you go. | 14:17 |
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| gcb | jungleboyj, I will still in the team, just it's time to rotate, let others lead the team :-) | 14:17 |
| jungleboyj | Sounds good. | 14:18 |
| gcb | thanks everyone, I still focus on oslo | 14:18 |
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| gcb | so oslo core reviews if you want to run for the PTL, feel free to reach me, I will give you some suggestions about PTL's daily work :-) | 14:20 |
| gcb | #topic Open discussion | 14:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:20 | |
| jungleboyj | gcb: I found the bug I was talking about at the beginning of the meeting. | 14:20 |
| jungleboyj | https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1694509/ | 14:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1694509 in tooz "eventlet errors and cannot switch to a different thread" [High,Confirmed] | 14:20 |
| crushil | jungleboyj, So, is this cinder specific? | 14:21 |
| gcb | jungleboyj, thanks, will reach our tooz expert jd_ to help figure out | 14:22 |
| jungleboyj | I think there was discussion that we just the ones seeing it because we do have some gate tests that use tooz for locking. | 14:22 |
| jungleboyj | crushil: So, not specific to Cinder, but we are the only ones seeing it. | 14:22 |
| crushil | Ah, gotcha. I haven't seen it in Ironic yet | 14:22 |
| jungleboyj | crushil: Yeah, we are the lucky ones. | 14:23 |
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| crushil | lol | 14:23 |
| gcb | I saw jd_ added comments 6 hours ago | 14:23 |
| jungleboyj | gcb: I saw that. | 14:25 |
| gcb | etcd3 with gRPC doesn't work with eventlet monkey patch | 14:29 |
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| gcb | That's a know issue, I remember dims told me about that before | 14:30 |
| dims | jungleboyj : mriedem was chasing it and filed this black list - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484019/ on friday, waiting for him to confirm if that worked or not | 14:31 |
| jungleboyj | dims: It appears to be working: http://logstash.openstack.org/#/dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=message:%5C%22%2Fusr%2Flocal%2Flib%2Fpython2.7%2Fdist-packages%2Ftooz%2Fdrivers%2Fetcd3gw.py:113%20in%20acquire%5C%22%20AND%20tags:%5C%22screen-c-vol.txt%5C%22&from=7d | 14:34 |
| gcb | dims: thanks | 14:36 |
| dims | jungleboyj : gcb : so it's one of the merges in 1.57.4 that's causing the problem - http://logs.openstack.org/63/482063/5/check/gate-releases-tox-list-changes-ubuntu-xenial/aa9b94f/console.html.gz#_2017-07-10_19_30_08_083924 | 14:38 |
| gcb | 'Make sure Lock.heartbeat() returns True/False' or/and 'etcd3: replace custom lock code by more recent etcd3 lock code' | 14:40 |
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| jungleboyj | dims: That appears to be the problem. | 14:40 |
| jungleboyj | On a related note, has anyone else seen devstack failing because etcd's checksum fails? | 14:41 |
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| gcb | talking with jd_ at openstack-oslo, I copied the dialogue there, we can discuss the issue at openstack-oslo | 14:48 |
| gcb | later | 14:48 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Sounds good. | 14:48 |
| gcb | Let's move on if any other topic want to talk about :-) | 14:49 |
| jungleboyj | Sure. | 14:49 |
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| gcb | please add topics in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-ptg-queens | 14:49 |
| gcb | then we can discuss them at the PTG | 14:50 |
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| gcb | okay, let end the meeting and continue discussion at openstack-oslo | 14:53 |
| gcb | thanks everyone | 14:53 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks! | 14:53 |
| gcb | #endmeeting | 14:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:54 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 17 14:54:07 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-07-17-14.00.html | 14:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-07-17-14.00.txt | 14:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-07-17-14.00.log.html | 14:54 |
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| apetrich | Hi there. Mistral meeting | 15:07 |
| toure | Hello | 15:08 |
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| rbrady | hey | 15:08 |
| apetrich | #startmeeting Mistral | 15:08 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 17 15:08:27 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is apetrich. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:08 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:08 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 15:08 |
| apetrich | o/ sorry for being a bit later. My calendar said it would be in one hour and I think it was wrong | 15:09 |
| apetrich | late* | 15:09 |
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| apetrich | So rakhmerov and d0ugal are off today and they asked me to run just the status | 15:10 |
| apetrich | so go ahead and tell us what you are doing :) | 15:10 |
| apetrich | #topic status | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "status (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:12 | |
| toure | #status working on a new approach for workflow error analysis to track sub-workflows, this new direction shouldn't need a new model as the entry point is from the task(s) themselves and have the tasks report information against its parent | 15:13 |
| mgershen | o/ | 15:13 |
| bobh | o/ | 15:13 |
| apetrich | toure, oh cool | 15:13 |
| apetrich | I was afraid you would have to redo all that | 15:14 |
| mgershen | status: Working on namespace feature. It seem to break almost every test, but I'm in good progress. | 15:14 |
| toure | I am trying not to re-factor the whole world :) | 15:14 |
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| rbrady | #status working on the keystone utils port to mistral-extra and testing it in tripleo-common | 15:15 |
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| apetrich | rbrady, after that has landed what else do you think we need to move before moving the openstack actions into mistral-extra? | 15:15 |
| rbrady | apetrich: need to investigate how to handle the action generation | 15:16 |
| apetrich | rbrady, the good thing is that context is now passed by the executor so that is one less thing to worry about | 15:17 |
| apetrich | status: chasing a bug on introspection that AFAICT happens on baremetal when disk has hints. I'm not able to reproduce that env but I'm following the stack trace back to identify what has happened | 15:18 |
| apetrich | I saw a lot of reviews improving documentation and that is good :) | 15:19 |
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| apetrich | so anything else from anyone? bobh? | 15:20 |
| bobh | trying to finish up my documentation changes - adding Jinja example | 15:21 |
| bobh | examples | 15:21 |
| bobh | hoping this week | 15:21 |
| apetrich | nice! | 15:21 |
| apetrich | so have a nice week and we meet again next week | 15:22 |
| apetrich | #endmeeting | 15:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 17 15:23:12 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-07-17-15.08.html | 15:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-07-17-15.08.txt | 15:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-07-17-15.08.log.html | 15:23 |
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| dtantsur | #startmeeting ironic | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 17 17:00:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtantsur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:00 |
| mgoddard_ | o/ | 17:00 |
| nicodemos | o/ | 17:00 |
| TheJulia | o/ | 17:00 |
| mjturek | o/ | 17:00 |
| ricardoas1 | o/ | 17:00 |
| kaifeng | o/ | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | hello everyone! | 17:00 |
| etingof | o/ | 17:00 |
| rloo_ | o/ | 17:00 |
| rama_y | o/ | 17:00 |
| crushil | \o | 17:00 |
| vdrok | o/ | 17:00 |
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| fellypefca | o/ | 17:01 |
| stendulker | o/ | 17:01 |
| rpioso | o/ | 17:01 |
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| dtantsur | our agenda, as usual, can be found at | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | #topic Announcements / Reminder | 17:01 |
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| dtantsur | #info ironic to get tag: supports-api-interoperability (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482759/) | 17:01 |
| milan | o/ | 17:02 |
| dtantsur | this is because we do API microversioning, mostly :) | 17:02 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: yay :) | 17:02 |
| dtantsur | not sure what effect it will have on us further.. nothing expected right now | 17:02 |
| dtantsur | #info starting to collect early ideas for the PTG: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-queens-ptg | 17:02 |
| dtantsur | the PTG is still 2 months away, but people already mention certain potential topics to discuss.. so put them there | 17:03 |
| krtaylor | 0/ | 17:03 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: Two other things: This week is non-client library release freeze, meaning sushy/virtualbmc afaik), and next week is client library release freeze. | 17:03 |
| dtantsur | not virtualbmc IIRC, but sushy for sure | 17:03 |
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| dtantsur | we need to land what can be landed in sushy and ironic-lib by roughly Wed | 17:03 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: wrt ptg -- do we need to get leads now? might be good just to get people's ideas first? | 17:04 |
| TheJulia | oh, yeah, ironic-lib too :) | 17:04 |
| dtantsur | rloo_: well, I want people to understand that somebody has to lead the topic, including *before* the PTG | 17:04 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: i agree, but i think that if people have good ideas we should gather those, then look for leads later if we need to | 17:05 |
| dtantsur | just putting your name when you submit it is fine enough for now | 17:05 |
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| rloo_ | dtantsur: ok, that works for me. i'll update etherpad to reflect that unless someone beats me to it. thx! | 17:05 |
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| rloo_ | wrt non-client library releases -- do we want to get the doc migration changes done for them all before the releases? | 17:06 |
| TheJulia | We will, I've got the sushy repo up on my other screen and starting to work on that now | 17:06 |
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| dtantsur | rloo_: preferably | 17:06 |
| TheJulia | at least, the basic changes | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | rloo_: slightly changed the wording | 17:07 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: thx! | 17:07 |
| dtantsur | #info Non-client libraries final releases this week, affects sushy and ironic-lib | 17:07 |
| dtantsur | anything else? | 17:07 |
| rloo_ | and molteniron, virtualbmc | 17:07 |
| rloo_ | next week is final release of client libraries, was that mentioned? | 17:08 |
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| rloo_ | and oft string freeze which doesn't affect us mcuh | 17:08 |
| dtantsur | I think virtualbmc is release type "other", but it needs double-checking | 17:08 |
| rloo_ | and feature freeze -- nova, which affects us | 17:08 |
| dtantsur | #info Final client releases and the feature freeze (for some projects, not us) next week | 17:09 |
| vdrok | one small announcement, the first patch to networking-baremetal was approved, a couple more smaller ones needed to be able to use it in gate | 17:09 |
| dtantsur | now, I wonder if we need a soft feature freeze at some point | 17:09 |
| dtantsur | thanks vdrok, good news! | 17:09 |
| mjturek | we haven't done freezes on molteniron, it's rolling at this point. Open to changing that though | 17:09 |
| rloo_ | vdrok: great! | 17:09 |
| dtantsur | mjturek: up to you and people using it, I guess | 17:09 |
| TheJulia | mjturek: also molteniron has never been released officially before :) | 17:10 |
| mjturek | fair enough! | 17:10 |
| mjturek | yeaaah true lol | 17:10 |
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| dtantsur | ok, anything else? we can discuss a potential soft freeze in open discussions | 17:10 |
| dtantsur | #topic Review subteam status reports (capped at ten minutes, or, well, as usual..) | 17:11 |
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| dtantsur | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard starting with line 121 | 17:11 |
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| rloo_ | dtantsur: what's the critical ironic bug? | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | I suspect the neutron one, lemme check | 17:12 |
| rloo_ | inspector also has a critical bug | 17:12 |
| dtantsur | inspector has CI down | 17:12 |
| dtantsur | oh | 17:12 |
| dtantsur | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1699542 | 17:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1699542 in Ironic "ironic fails when glance-api is deployed under uwsgi as vhost" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Pavlo Shchelokovskyy (pshchelo) | 17:12 |
| milan | yup :-/ | 17:12 |
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| dtantsur | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic-inspector/+bug/1703804 | 17:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1703804 in Ironic Inspector "Grenade fails to find inspector logs" [Critical,New] | 17:13 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: that ironic bug isn't critical any more? didn't you put in a fix? | 17:13 |
| dtantsur | well, I guess it should be closed, lemme see | 17:14 |
| vdrok | yes, there was a fix. now a refactor of keystoneauth things needed to proceed | 17:14 |
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| rloo_ | vdrok: right. is that being tracked by another bug or this one? | 17:15 |
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| dtantsur | another | 17:15 |
| dtantsur | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1699547 | 17:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1699547 in Ironic "[RFE] unify endpoint discovery for services by using keystoneauth adapters" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Pavlo Shchelokovskyy (pshchelo) | 17:15 |
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| rloo_ | dtantsur: ok, this can be closed then. and phew, not critical :-) | 17:15 |
| * dtantsur closed | 17:15 | |
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| rloo_ | TheJulia: wrt bfv, L150 means ? | 17:17 |
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| TheJulia | rloo_: Sorry, incomplete thought, I was meaning that they would be in the next release of python-ironicclient, | 17:17 |
| dtantsur | rloo_: we only released the python API, we need a release for CLI bits | 17:17 |
| TheJulia | whatever/whenever that next release is cut | 17:17 |
| milan | jlvillal has been driving the inspector grenade issue, thx jlvillal! We need infra to review the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483059/ | 17:17 |
| rloo_ | TheJulia: you mean the rest of the client patches will be in next release? | 17:18 |
| TheJulia | yes | 17:18 |
| rloo_ | TheJulia: cuz you know, stuff in release x is also in release x+1 unless we explicitly delete them :-) | 17:18 |
| rloo_ | TheJulia: we should plan on another client release this week since the rest of bfv client code should merge today. | 17:19 |
| TheJulia | rloo_: heh, agreed although if dtantsur has anything he wants to see in the client before next week, we should consider that as well. | 17:20 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: physnet awareness bits? | 17:20 |
| rloo_ | TheJulia: wrt the nova patch for bfv -- do you think it could use more ironic eyes? | 17:20 |
| rloo_ | TheJulia: right, i thought it was a blocker for bfv devstack changes though, so i'm good if we do two more releases of client | 17:21 |
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| TheJulia | dtantsur: if we can get the api for it reviewed, sure :) | 17:21 |
| dtantsur | as many as we need :) | 17:21 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: yes, we should get physnet aware bits in before end of next week. i am going to try to get that in this week :) | 17:21 |
| * dtantsur too | 17:21 | |
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| dtantsur | so, BFV looks very good, right? | 17:22 |
| TheJulia | okay, works for me re the client releases | 17:22 |
| dtantsur | I mean, missing tempest is not awesome, but still! | 17:22 |
| TheJulia | it does, a couple misc patches, devstack, tempest tests, and the nova revision. | 17:22 |
| dtantsur | great job, TheJulia, mjturek and everyone involved | 17:22 |
| mjturek | :) | 17:23 |
| * rloo_ holds off the congrats until after nova gives their blessing... crosses fingers... | 17:23 | |
| dtantsur | true, but the ironic part is a huge achievement on its own | 17:23 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: so very true but i don't want to anger the gods... | 17:23 |
| dtantsur | heh, fine | 17:23 |
| TheJulia | :) | 17:23 |
| dtantsur | anyway, done with the statuses? we're past 10 mins and we have a nice flame war ahead ;) | 17:24 |
| * TheJulia wonders if we can have the flame war with drinks... | 17:24 | |
| rloo_ | huh, what flame wars? (but yeah, ready to move on) | 17:24 |
| dtantsur | rloo_: pruning the priorities :) | 17:24 |
| mgoddard_ | dtantsur: would be great to get physnet awareness into the client. There is still the ironic API change and tempest tests to merge first though | 17:24 |
| dtantsur | right | 17:25 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: no flame wars there ;) | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | #topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week | 17:25 |
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| rloo_ | lets add physnet patch | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | sure | 17:25 |
| TheJulia | +1 | 17:25 |
| sambetts | +1 | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | ok, the docs work stays, because it has to | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | BFV, I guess, stays, because we're SOOO close | 17:27 |
| dtantsur | rolling upgrades - we have to get rolling (see?) with them | 17:27 |
| dtantsur | mmm, any other wise thoughts? | 17:27 |
| rloo_ | i think those are good weekly priorities | 17:27 |
| TheJulia | agreed | 17:27 |
| dtantsur | yeah, the list looks big enough to me, given also the inspector CI problem | 17:27 |
| dtantsur | moving on? any objections? | 17:28 |
| TheJulia | no objections | 17:28 |
| rloo_ | + move on | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | #topic Prune Pike priorities | 17:28 |
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| dtantsur | a sad, but necessary, thing to do | 17:28 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: would be useful to decide on the soft freeze | 17:29 |
| dtantsur | rloo_: I guess the plan is to clean the priorities list of things that are clearly not making it, right? | 17:29 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: right. clean or at least downgrade. so it represents what we reasonably be able to get done. | 17:29 |
| dtantsur | we can as well. by soft freeze I meant only merging 1. priorities, 2. small vendor-contained features, 3. bug fixes and docs | 17:29 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: i don't think there will be any surprises but... | 17:30 |
| rloo_ | oh, soft freeze includes bug fixes? ok | 17:30 |
| rloo_ | rc1 targetweek is Aug 7 | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | is it a surprise? ;) | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | I think RC1 may be even a bit too late for a soft freeze. when we cut stable/pike, it's a hard freeze for it | 17:31 |
| rloo_ | schedule: https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html | 17:31 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: week before that? | 17:31 |
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| dtantsur | ah, wait, final releases and the branching is probably on Aug 21 | 17:31 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: right, final rc is aug 21 | 17:31 |
| dtantsur | still, I'd start the SFF in August (right, a week before) | 17:31 |
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| dtantsur | any other thoughts on the SFF topic? | 17:32 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: i think i'd start soft freeze for features the week of july 31, not a soft freeze that includes bug fixes | 17:32 |
| dtantsur | wait, there may be some misunderstading here. bug fixes are always allowed during freezes, no? | 17:32 |
| vdrok | yup, I think so | 17:33 |
| dtantsur | I only mentioned them for clarity | 17:33 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: yeah, but your definition above included bug fixes and docs | 17:33 |
| dtantsur | well, they're in "allowed" category | 17:33 |
| * dtantsur is a bit confused | 17:33 | |
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| rloo_ | dtantsur: so for the discussion today (wrt pruning the priorities) shall we say we want to get whatever landed by week of aug 7, or byjuly 31? | 17:34 |
| dtantsur | priorities can land after that date and till the branching, I guess | 17:34 |
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| rloo_ | dtantsur: that's what i'm really intersted in, cuz that gives us time frame wrt toknowing what we can reasonably do by then. | 17:34 |
| TheJulia | I thought branching occurs from the last release tag | 17:34 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: right, on the week of Aug 21 IIUC | 17:35 |
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| dtantsur | so, tl;dr: I suggest we limit landing non-priority features starting with Aug 1st | 17:35 |
| TheJulia | I agree | 17:35 |
| vdrok | seems fine to me | 17:36 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: what about priority features? no limit? (maybe i misunderstand) | 17:36 |
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| wanyen | dtantsur, iLO team will need more time so ug 7 works better for us | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | rloo_: no limit for: 1. priorities (that stay after pruning), 2. small vendor-only (no common layer modification) features, 3. bugs, docs, CI | 17:36 |
| wanyen | s/ug/aug | 17:36 |
| TheJulia | We have generally become very gun shy about landing major features towards release time | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | wanyen: more time for what? | 17:36 |
| wanyen | we need time to warp up proliantutils and hpsum patch needs more review | 17:37 |
| TheJulia | wanyen: proliantutils has to be released this week. | 17:37 |
| dtantsur | I suspect the hpsum patch falls under "small vendor-only features", but I don't remember for sure | 17:37 |
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| rpioso | dtantsur: What's the freeze date for vendor features, such as a new hardware type driver? | 17:38 |
| dtantsur | rpioso: new hardware types for *existing* drivers is IMO a part of the driver composition priority | 17:38 |
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| dtantsur | so it's not affected by the freeze in my opinion | 17:38 |
| dtantsur | others may disagree ^^^ | 17:38 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: Works for me :) | 17:39 |
| TheJulia | I agree | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | I guess I'll send a formal proposal to the ML, and we can go from there | 17:39 |
| TheJulia | I feel like this is more expectation setting than anything else. | 17:39 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: ++ for email. | 17:40 |
| dtantsur | should we go over all priorities now? or just pick ones we think are at risk? | 17:40 |
| TheJulia | I think prune the at risk ones | 17:40 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: i think we hsould be able to go over them all? | 17:40 |
| TheJulia | s/prune/re-prioritize/ | 17:40 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: let's start and see how fast we move... | 17:40 |
| dtantsur | ok. so, BFV looks good. keeping? | 17:41 |
| rloo_ | +1 keep | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | rolling upgrades | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | how much work is there ahead? it still looks doable to me? | 17:41 |
| vdrok | rloo_: the main one left is the online migration command? | 17:41 |
| rloo_ | +1 keep. we've got most of it in, if we don't get rest in it will be awkward. | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | yeah, it's going to be weird | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | driver composition | 17:41 |
| rloo_ | 2 patches left for main rolling upgrades. 1 has two +2 but dying cuz of neutron bug. | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | this is only docs and new hardware types | 17:42 |
| vdrok | ++ to keep then | 17:42 |
| TheJulia | +1 keep | 17:42 |
| * dtantsur is a bit too fast, I guess | 17:42 | |
| vdrok | I think both of those can be landed up until hard freeze | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | ok with the driver composition remaining bits? | 17:42 |
| vdrok | (docs and new hw types) | 17:42 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: umm, wait. what happened to ci refactoring? | 17:42 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: L125 | 17:43 |
| dtantsur | rloo_: it's not a priority, it's "do it always" thing | 17:43 |
| dtantsur | technical-debt-ish | 17:43 |
| dtantsur | being not a feature, it's not affected by any freezes anyway | 17:43 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: ok, going to note that. | 17:43 |
| dtantsur | OSC default API version change - done for Pike, I guess? | 17:44 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: what about reference architecture guide? L175 | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | hmm, or do we want a warning for "ironic" utility? | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | oh, sorry, my screen scrolled for some reason | 17:44 |
| * rloo_ was wondering what list/order dtantsur was using... | 17:45 | |
| dtantsur | we're doing some ref-arch-related work downstream, so I can well apply some bits upstream | 17:45 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: so you think you'll have something for pike? | 17:45 |
| dtantsur | yes, I still believe so | 17:45 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: great | 17:45 |
| dtantsur | other comments? | 17:45 |
| rloo_ | hmm, is python 3.5 a pike priority? L178 | 17:45 |
| TheJulia | it is | 17:45 |
| dtantsur | yeah, it's a global priority | 17:46 |
| rloo_ | deadline for that is next week i think | 17:46 |
| rloo_ | what does it mean if we don't meet it? | 17:46 |
| dtantsur | nothing really.. we'll have to finish it in Queens, I guess | 17:46 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: ok, in that case, i suspect this may drop | 17:46 |
| dtantsur | I'm not sure we can just drop it from our priorities.. but given how much attention we paid to it, I don't really know | 17:47 |
| dtantsur | I'm fine with moving it to Queens | 17:47 |
| dtantsur | opinions on that? | 17:47 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: honestly, we can leave it there but realistically... we could at least make a note that it has lower priority? | 17:47 |
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| vdrok | are the two patches the only ones required in ironic? | 17:47 |
| dtantsur | vdrok: I don't quite know. I have the same information as you, unfortunately | 17:48 |
| vdrok | Nisha_Agarwal: are you around? | 17:48 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | vdrok, yes | 17:48 |
| rloo_ | vdrok: there is that bullet about 'other patches not merging' so i think they are blocked | 17:48 |
| vdrok | rloo_: yup, tho I think it's about project-config? | 17:49 |
| dtantsur | IIRC "other patches" are about not ironic itself | 17:49 |
| rloo_ | Nisha_Agarwal: what is needed to complete the python 3.5 work? the status is unclear to me. | 17:49 |
| dtantsur | we can only reasonably target a python 3 job for ironic | 17:49 |
| dtantsur | for Pike | 17:49 |
| vdrok | if there are only two patches in ironic itself, we can still leave it | 17:49 |
| rloo_ | Nisha_Agarwal: are we done if we get those two ironic patches merged? | 17:49 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | vdrok, after we have these two patches merged in ironic then we will know if py35 gate passes or still fail | 17:49 |
| vdrok | Nisha_Agarwal: mhm, ok. I'll try to help with the first one with hashing then | 17:50 |
| rloo_ | Nisha_Agarwal: the first patch you have a -1 for workflow so it isn't even ready to be reviewed | 17:50 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | because i never saw any other failures other than these failures yet | 17:50 |
| vdrok | I'd vote for leaving it for a week, and see if it progresses | 17:50 |
| vdrok | if not, we can drop :) | 17:50 |
| rloo_ | we've got 10 min left, i say lower the priority until Nisha_Agarwal can provide more confidence to it. we can't even review the first patch yet. | 17:51 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | i will update that patch by today/tomorrow | 17:51 |
| dtantsur | cool, yeah | 17:51 |
| TheJulia | If we can review the virtualbmc patch.... and get that merged, we would be in a better position overall | 17:51 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | the second one can go in | 17:51 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | yes | 17:51 |
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| rloo_ | ok, we can revisit next week meeting Nisha_Agarwal if you feel like it works. | 17:51 |
| dtantsur | yeah, let's move on | 17:51 |
| dtantsur | Deploying with Apache and WSGI in CI | 17:51 |
| dtantsur | done for ironic, will not be done for inspector | 17:52 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | Thanks rloo_ it would. It worked in py35 shell | 17:52 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | but when i ran gate it failed | 17:52 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | :( | 17:52 |
| rloo_ | is that a pike community goal? | 17:52 |
| vdrok | yup | 17:52 |
| rloo_ | Nisha_Agarwal: please let us know next week, we have to move on | 17:52 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | sure | 17:52 |
| dtantsur | rloo_: another community goal, yes. inspector is very far still | 17:52 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: what's your thought then wrt inspector? | 17:52 |
| dtantsur | rloo_: we do it in Queens | 17:53 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: I'm thinking punt to Queens | 17:53 |
| rloo_ | :) | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | ok, we discussed the driver composition.. | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | OSC default API version change - do we need the warning for the "ironic" tool as well? | 17:53 |
| rloo_ | we need snmp and drac hw types? | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | rloo_: and oneview IIRC | 17:53 |
| rloo_ | but ok, we need to get driver comp done so can discuss later wrt what we need to do | 17:54 |
| dtantsur | maybe Cisco stuff, I don't remember | 17:54 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: so OSC default API change. we are done til Queens? | 17:54 |
| * etingof is snmp guru | 17:54 | |
| dtantsur | rloo_: depending on whether we want a warning for "ironic" tool. the spec mentions it. | 17:54 |
| TheJulia | w/r/t a warning for ironic cli, I thought we agreed to it, but I've not seen a patch for it | 17:54 |
| * dtantsur assigns etingof to everything | 17:54 | |
| * TheJulia +1's this assignment of everything | 17:55 | |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: I can make a patch quite quickly | 17:55 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: the more warnings the better | 17:55 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: awesome | 17:55 |
| rloo_ | dtantsur: thx. | 17:55 |
| dtantsur | Node tags. I haven't followed it, to be honest. how far are we? | 17:55 |
| TheJulia | not in a good place | 17:56 |
| TheJulia | looks like we will have to punt, although perhaps more substrate can make it in before the end of the cycle | 17:56 |
| dtantsur | we took node tags because the spec and the changes were around for some time | 17:56 |
| vdrok | 3 patches away :) one of them is api. yeah, mostly trying to decide with rloo_ the way to deal it wrt rolling upgrade | 17:56 |
| dtantsur | I don't think we had big asks for it | 17:56 |
| dtantsur | I'd prefer vdrok to spend his time on something with "network" in its name ;) | 17:56 |
| vdrok | can be lowered in priority, sure | 17:56 |
| rloo_ | i would like to get it in cuz it has been there for awhile but i don't think it is a high priority. | 17:57 |
| rloo_ | definitely lower priority than networking. | 17:57 |
| dtantsur | yeah, lowering makes sense to me | 17:57 |
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| dtantsur | now, sigh. rescue mode | 17:57 |
| rloo_ | 3 minute warning | 17:57 |
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| dtantsur | it's important (IMO), but it's not moving (again, IMO) | 17:58 |
| rloo_ | do we know if 1. rescue mode works end to end; 2. how are reviews going? | 17:58 |
| * vdrok reviewed it like several months ago :( | 17:58 | |
| dtantsur | I haven't reviewed them ever | 17:58 |
| dtantsur | I will have time and prioritization for them, but in Queens | 17:59 |
| TheJulia | Once a long time ago, it just hasn't been on the radar really | 17:59 |
| rloo_ | so again, i would love to have it, but i don't see much 'i want' for this as a higher priority than other features. | 17:59 |
| milan | 1 min left | 17:59 |
| rloo_ | let's lower the priority | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | let's lower | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | and I guess let's finish on the next meeting? | 17:59 |
| rloo_ | i think we can whip through some of the others. | 17:59 |
| milan | 10s left | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | note in 30 seconds :) | 17:59 |
| rloo_ | post-deploy vif attach/detach is up to nova | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | oh | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | thanks everyone! | 17:59 |
| rloo_ | physical network awareness we want | 17:59 |
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| dtantsur | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 17 18:00:02 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-07-17-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-07-17-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-07-17-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
| vdrok | thanks! | 18:00 |
| crushil | ty | 18:00 |
| milan | o/ | 18:00 |
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