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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 15:04 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 24 15:04:49 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 15:04 |
| rakhmerov | hi | 15:04 |
| mgershen | o/ | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: :) | 15:05 |
| toure | hello | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | hi Toure | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | I think there won't be many people today | 15:05 |
| toure | hello | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | some will be late, some will skip | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current status | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current status (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:06 | |
| rakhmerov | my status: mostly reviews, setting up a new gate (still WIP) and Java client | 15:06 |
| rakhmerov | and some internal stuff | 15:06 |
| rakhmerov | please share your updates, if any | 15:07 |
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| mgershen | #status waiting for reviews on the namespace feature and working on docs and mistral client for the same feature | 15:07 |
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| mgershen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485325/ | 15:08 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: yes, sorry for the delay with review | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | I've already reviewed partially | 15:09 |
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| rakhmerov | will finish tomorrow morning | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | toure: any updates? | 15:09 |
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| rakhmerov | rbrady? | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: ^ | 15:09 |
| toure | #status making some head way on this workflow error analysis and it doesn't require a rework of models, I am building correlations through TaskExecution workflow_name to find the parent. example http://paste.openstack.org/show/616313/ | 15:10 |
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| toure | rakhmerov I see why no one was jumping to work on this | 15:10 |
| toure | :) | 15:10 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 15:10 |
| rakhmerov | turned to be pretty hairy, hah? | 15:10 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 15:10 |
| toure | yeah, to say the least | 15:11 |
| toure | :) | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | toure: ok, if you see you got stuck don't hesitate to ask help | 15:11 |
| toure | I think moving forward we should consider reworking the models | 15:11 |
| toure | will do | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | and try to send patches on review for an earlier feedback | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | toure: yes, models are evolving already | 15:11 |
| rbrady | #status Still working on keystone_utils port. I submitted a couple of patches for it and I started trying to change tripleo-common to use mistral-extra. I found out I need to do some packaging work for mistral-extra in rdo. I am WIP on that packaging effort. | 15:12 |
| rakhmerov | for many reasons | 15:12 |
| toure | will do, I am cleaning up some of the code for review | 15:12 |
| toure | rakhmerov ack | 15:12 |
| mgershen | toure: do you think namespaces will cause issues with what you are working on? | 15:12 |
| toure | I think it will help | 15:12 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: no, it shouldn't as far as I understand | 15:12 |
| toure | mgershen I think your work would move us in the right direction | 15:12 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: can you please see if we need to merge something urgently? | 15:13 |
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| rakhmerov | this week is the end of Pike-3 and after that we'll have a feature freeze | 15:13 |
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| rbrady | rakhmerov: I'll do my best. it relies on other projects outside of mistral | 15:14 |
| mgershen | toure: OK, great | 15:14 |
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| rakhmerov | any doc work will still be allowed but merging significant changes or features will be harder | 15:14 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: yeah-yeah, I fully understand ) | 15:14 |
| rakhmerov | I wish I could help more but I had to spend time on other things this cycle | 15:15 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:15 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Open Discussion | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:15 | |
| rakhmerov | guys, anything else? | 15:15 |
| mgershen | Same rules go for python-mistralclient? | 15:15 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: what do you mean? | 15:16 |
| mgershen | There is a feature freeze there too, right? | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, yes | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | I guess it already happened actually.. Need to check | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | but you can keep developing it in master branch I think anyway | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | anything else? | 15:18 |
| rakhmerov | I just want to ask you to review patches, please | 15:19 |
| mgershen | Nothing from me | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | I'd like to merge lots of patches | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | toure, rbrady, d0ugal: anything from you? | 15:19 |
| toure | nothing here | 15:20 |
| rbrady | rakhmerov: not from me | 15:20 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 15:20 |
| rakhmerov | let's make it short today | 15:20 |
| rakhmerov | thanks | 15:20 |
| rakhmerov | have a good one | 15:20 |
| rakhmerov | bye | 15:20 |
| toure | thanks, have a good week everyone | 15:20 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 15:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:20 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 24 15:20:33 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:20 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-07-24-15.04.html | 15:20 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-07-24-15.04.txt | 15:20 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-07-24-15.04.log.html | 15:20 |
| mgershen | Bye | 15:20 |
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| ijw | #startmeeting networking-vpp | 16:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 24 16:06:05 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ijw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking-vpp)" | 16:06 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_vpp' | 16:06 |
| ijw | Anyone around? | 16:06 |
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| ijw | #endmeeting | 16:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:10 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 24 16:10:07 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:10 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_vpp/2017/networking_vpp.2017-07-24-16.06.html | 16:10 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_vpp/2017/networking_vpp.2017-07-24-16.06.txt | 16:10 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_vpp/2017/networking_vpp.2017-07-24-16.06.log.html | 16:10 |
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| dtantsur | #startmeeting ironic | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 24 17:00:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtantsur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:00 |
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| mjturek | o/ | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | who's here for the ironic meeting? :) | 17:00 |
| rloo | o/ | 17:00 |
| jlvillal | o/ | 17:00 |
| kaifeng | o/ | 17:00 |
| stendulker | o/ | 17:00 |
| crushil | o/ | 17:00 |
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| jlvillal | Me! Me! Me! | 17:00 |
| rama_y | o/ | 17:00 |
| vdrok | o/ | 17:00 |
| milan | o/ | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | hi all, great to see you :) | 17:01 |
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| dtantsur | our agenda is as usual at | 17:01 |
| milan | jlvillal, lol | 17:01 |
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| dtantsur | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 17:01 |
| TheJulia | o/ | 17:01 |
| baha | o/ | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | #topic Announcements / Reminder | 17:02 |
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| dtantsur | #info Final releases for ironicclient and ironic-inspector-client this week | 17:02 |
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| dtantsur | please pay particular attention to reviews in these two projects | 17:02 |
| dtantsur | I think the inspector client looks good | 17:02 |
| fellypefca | o/ | 17:02 |
| dtantsur | ironicclient has quite a few outstanding patches (mostly around testing though) | 17:02 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: please put links to any patches that need reviews, maybe in this weeks' priorities section ^^ | 17:03 |
| xavierr | o/ | 17:03 |
| dtantsur | will do when we get to it | 17:03 |
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| dtantsur | next, | 17:03 |
| rloo | dtantsur: any patches that *need* to get in, not all :) | 17:03 |
| dtantsur | right, I'm not sure there are many | 17:03 |
| etingof | o/ | 17:03 |
| dtantsur | but I also encourage the folks to review the list and decide for themselves | 17:03 |
| dtantsur | and shout loudly if we've forgotten something | 17:04 |
| dtantsur | :) | 17:04 |
| dtantsur | #info Soft feature freeze proposal: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-July/119883.html | 17:04 |
| dtantsur | this is something I was talking about on the last meeting | 17:04 |
| dtantsur | so far I got no responses to this thread, I guess people are good with it ;) | 17:04 |
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| rpioso | o/ | 17:05 |
| dtantsur | finally, | 17:05 |
| dtantsur | #info IPA builder repo was started, please add to your review dashboards: https://github.com/openstack/ironic-python-agent-builder | 17:05 |
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| vdrok | yup, soft freeze date seems fine | 17:05 |
| rloo | dtantsur: does that builder repo participate in the release schedule? | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | rloo: nope, at least not now | 17:06 |
| rloo | dtantsur: good :) | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | I will probably cut releases from it, but we may have to skip Pike | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | it's really all nice and empty :) | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | any other announcements, reminders or comments? | 17:06 |
| rloo | nova feature freeze is this week, but we all know that | 17:06 |
| vdrok | attach-detach got in btw | 17:07 |
| dtantsur | \o/ | 17:07 |
| sambetts | \o/ | 17:07 |
| dtantsur | good news indeed! let's try to get BFV in as well | 17:07 |
| rloo | and our gates should be working... | 17:07 |
| dtantsur | yeah, we had big problems last week, but should be better now | 17:07 |
| TheJulia | Reviews on the BFV nova patch would be appreciated, and hopefully we should have any minor details sorted out in the next day or two. | 17:08 |
| dtantsur | #topic Review subteam status reports (capped at ten minutes) | 17:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review subteam status reports (capped at ten minutes) (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:08 | |
| dtantsur | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard line 125 | 17:08 |
| rloo | oh. next week is Queens PTL self-nomination. All you wanna-bee PTLs, start preparing :) | 17:08 |
| dtantsur | ouch :) | 17:08 |
| * TheJulia raises an eyebrow | 17:08 | |
| rloo | the Queen PTL. that is funny | 17:09 |
| dtantsur | yeah, being PTL is easy and fun, everyone should do it :-P | 17:09 |
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| dtantsur | anyway, /me dives into the statuses for now | 17:09 |
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| ricardoas | o/ | 17:10 |
| rloo | is rpioso here? | 17:10 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: do we consider "Post-deploy VIF attach/detach" done now? | 17:10 |
| rloo | rpioso: what's status of drac hardware types? | 17:10 |
| dtantsur | ВЩТУ indeed (<-- regular joke about wrong keyboard layout) :D | 17:10 |
| vdrok | :D | 17:10 |
| vdrok | or rather ЖВ | 17:11 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: I believe so at least for the in-tree neutron driver and nova | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | re physical awareness: there are a lot of things in flight | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | let's please come up with a minimum list of patches to support this feature? | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: ^^^ | 17:12 |
| sambetts | I think the actual feature itself has landed, the remaining patches are a big refactor to clean up the code | 17:12 |
| rloo | sambetts: are the networking-baremetal parts for routed networks support good to go, or are they still blocked by physical network awareness? | 17:13 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: I think tempest and upgrades are kinda mandatory, no? | 17:13 |
| vdrok | yeah, upgrades should get in too I think | 17:13 |
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| rloo | i reviewed the upgrades code; i suspect they will land this week. | 17:14 |
| sambetts | oh yeah, missed that patch in the list, tempest tests and rolling upgrades should definatly be priority | 17:14 |
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| sambetts | rloo: I should be able to start working on them again now the physical network field is exposed in the API | 17:14 |
| dtantsur | it is exposed | 17:14 |
| rloo | sambetts: great, please let us know when they are ready to be reviewed! | 17:14 |
| sambetts | will do :) there is quite a lot of brain required to get the plumb right so bare with me :) | 17:15 |
| sambetts | plumbing* | 17:15 |
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| dtantsur | are folks done with the statuses, keeping in mind we're going to come back to them in a few minutes? | 17:18 |
| * rloo good with statuses although skipped the non-high priorities | 17:18 | |
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| rloo | 10 min mark :) | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | #topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week | 17:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Deciding on priorities for the coming week (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:18 | |
| dtantsur | so, we're still in the docs refactoring business, esp. ironic-inspector | 17:18 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: I think the ironic-inspector patches are all good to go now | 17:19 |
| milan | sambetts ++ | 17:19 |
| dtantsur | cool! | 17:19 |
| dtantsur | also, some progress with BFV (cheers!), rolling upgrades and physnet awareness | 17:19 |
| TheJulia | Bifrost also, but that takes a lower priority in my book since it is a massive re-org of the docs. | 17:19 |
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| * milan wanted to capture the reviews input on the dnsmasq pxe filter patch before forgetting the discussion, hence the docs delay | 17:20 | |
| rloo | should we remove bifrost, molteniron from docs list then? | 17:20 |
| dtantsur | mjturek, TheJulia: what's else critical for BFV? I think you have a couple of small but important patches | 17:20 |
| dtantsur | rloo: molteniroic is small, let's keep it | 17:21 |
| dtantsur | fine with removing bifrost for now. anyway I get weekly reminders about our docs :) | 17:21 |
| rloo | dtantsur: ok | 17:21 |
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| TheJulia | dtantsur: Critical, the patch mjturek is working on right now, the tempest tests, the first nova patch, and I _think_ we are good until next cycle for generic drivers. | 17:22 |
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| TheJulia | oh, and the project-config patch for the experimental ci job | 17:22 |
| rloo | sambetts: out of curiosity, any idea when phase 2 of doc migration will happen (to move api ref)? | 17:22 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: I think we list all but the first one. could you please add it to the priorities? | 17:23 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: on the priority list? | 17:23 |
| mjturek | yep - there are some other small patches on the ironic side, but nothing critical I belive | 17:23 |
| rloo | Oh. we forgot to mention that we did another client release last week | 17:23 |
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| TheJulia | dtantsur: added | 17:24 |
| dtantsur | thanks! | 17:24 |
| TheJulia | rloo: Thanks, last week was hectic :) | 17:24 |
| sambetts | rloo: according to the doc-migration etherpad sometime next cycle, but I've asked in #openstack-doc for a confirmation | 17:25 |
| rloo | TheJulia: :) | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | so, how is the list looking? | 17:25 |
| rloo | sambetts: thx. once you get confirmation, maybe we can add a comment in that patch, and remove it from our whiteboard. | 17:26 |
| rloo | dtantsur: busy. good though :) | 17:26 |
| sambetts | rloo: which patch? | 17:26 |
| rloo | sambetts: the api-ref patch | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | yeah, good to me as well. any comments/additions? | 17:26 |
| rloo | sambetts: L99 | 17:26 |
| sambetts | rloo: yup makes sense | 17:26 |
| dtantsur | ready to move on? we have quite some work ahead :) | 17:27 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: Is anyone, as far as your aware, working on a configuration reference doc for ironic? | 17:27 |
| dtantsur | not that I'm aware of. and ditto for ironic-inspector. thanks for the reminder | 17:27 |
| TheJulia | :) | 17:27 |
| rloo | TheJulia: there used to be a config ref for ironic. does it just need to be mvoed over? | 17:27 |
| TheJulia | rloo: if it is an html auto rendered magical reference, yes | 17:27 |
| rloo | TheJulia: it was generated from the ironic configs | 17:27 |
| * dtantsur looks at the clock | 17:28 | |
| rloo | TheJulia: i'll take a look and see if i can find it | 17:28 |
| sambetts | me and rloo both have ironic doc clean up patches in flight, I think we need some opinions on: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485820 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486649/ | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | thanks rloo :) added to line 103 | 17:28 |
| TheJulia | rloo: thanks! | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | #topic continue/finish pruning Ironic priorities for Pike | 17:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "continue/finish pruning Ironic priorities for Pike (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:28 | |
| rpioso | rloo: I updated the status of the drac hardware type driver. | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | thanks rpioso! | 17:28 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: :) | 17:29 |
| dtantsur | I think we last stopped right before the IPA API wotk (line 242) | 17:29 |
| * rloo only wants to spend minimal time on docs now since we can get those changes in up to the last minute. | 17:29 | |
| rloo | thx rpioso! | 17:29 |
| TheJulia | rloo: +1, minus the configuration reference stuff, since we are going to get emails to the mailing list about a lack of it until it appears :( | 17:29 |
| dtantsur | it seems that sambetts is still decided to get it in | 17:29 |
| rpioso | rloo: np | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: I'm already getting these emails :) | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | so, keeping IPA API so far? | 17:30 |
| sambetts | I rebased and pushed updated patches for the IPA versioning logic so they *should* be ready to review | 17:30 |
| rloo | i think that is technical debt; if it isn't hard, we should do it | 17:31 |
| dtantsur | yep | 17:31 |
| TheJulia | sounds good to me | 17:31 |
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| dtantsur | python 3 is something we discussed already, right? | 17:31 |
| TheJulia | yes | 17:32 |
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| dtantsur | node tags | 17:32 |
| rloo | nisha doesn't seem to be here; she was going to report status today of python 3 | 17:32 |
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| dtantsur | sigh | 17:32 |
| dtantsur | well, it should not be a lot of work | 17:32 |
| rloo | 'should not' :) | 17:32 |
| TheJulia | I think we landed one of the two outstanding patches last week for python3 | 17:32 |
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| dtantsur | vdrok: do you still want and can dedicate time to node tags at this stage? | 17:33 |
| rloo | we can leave that as optional priority. yes? | 17:33 |
| rloo | oh, i was referring to python 3.5 | 17:33 |
| dtantsur | rloo: +1 to keeping python 3 | 17:33 |
| dtantsur | as it's an openstack-wide priority | 17:33 |
| dtantsur | as to node tags.. I'd limit the number of API additions, to be honest | 17:33 |
| vdrok | dtantsur: I think so, yes. at least we've clarified some things with rloo last week | 17:33 |
| dtantsur | especially since we cannot get it in ironicclient | 17:33 |
| vdrok | dtantsur: fine with me | 17:34 |
| rloo | oh yes, good point. no more changes to client. | 17:34 |
| TheJulia | re: node tagging: I feel the same, I'm hesitant to land api patches at this point as we are going to release the client this week. | 17:34 |
| * dtantsur votes for moving it to Queens | 17:34 | |
| vdrok | it's not something we desperately need, it's also technical debt | 17:34 |
| dtantsur | not technical debt, rather planning debt | 17:34 |
| TheJulia | +1 to user visible to queens | 17:34 |
| dtantsur | objections? | 17:35 |
| dtantsur | done :) | 17:35 |
| dtantsur | rescue mode | 17:35 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: that was fast :) | 17:35 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: it's not hard to revert, right? :) | 17:35 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: nope | 17:35 |
| rloo | rescue mode needs nova patch. so it can't make it in PIke | 17:35 |
| TheJulia | re: rescue, next cycle | 17:36 |
| rloo | do we want to make it a priority to do the rescue-ironic patches now? | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | well, I'm afraid we have enough priorities | 17:36 |
| rloo | ok, so rescue in Queens then. | 17:36 |
| TheJulia | re: tags: vdrok: I'd love to gain an understanding of how it is technical debt, but that is not for this meeting at the moment. | 17:36 |
| anupn | i think so would be good to add in priority, gate are passing now i believe | 17:36 |
| stendulker | rloo: Few reviews on 'rescue' would help, as there wer no reviews on it | 17:36 |
| rloo | stendulker: i agree. more reviewers would help too. | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | anupn, stendulker: I understand it's sad, and I know it's not your fault. However, we're where we are now, and we cannot stretch ourselves more :( | 17:37 |
| vdrok | TheJulia: in a sense that we have half of the code landed for quite a while :) but yeah, maybe rather planning debt | 17:37 |
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| anupn | dtantsur: o/ | 17:38 |
| dtantsur | next? | 17:38 |
| * TheJulia is good with next | 17:38 | |
| dtantsur | Split away the tempest plugin | 17:39 |
| rloo | are tempest plugins one of Queen's goals? (or maybe they were talking about it and it isn't) | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | potential Queens goal | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | I'm not sure the goals are finalized (I am supposed to know it, sigh) | 17:39 |
| TheJulia | I think we need to move to queens at this point | 17:39 |
| rloo | well, where are we at with those? i thought we were waiting for patches to be submitted | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | anyway, I don't really feel like potentially de-stabilizing the gate right before the release :( | 17:39 |
| rloo | yeah, move to Queens then. | 17:40 |
| dtantsur | rloo: we have a huuuuge chain of patches, and it has to grow more | 17:40 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: what do you feel about this? | 17:40 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: I'm leaning towards waiting on it. Not a pressing priority. And I've let it hit the back-burner | 17:40 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: Much rather focus on our big priorities like BFV and others | 17:40 |
| rloo | OMG, I thought we had merged solio's tempest patches | 17:40 |
| dtantsur | nope.. | 17:40 |
| dtantsur | objections to moving it to Queens? | 17:41 |
| jlvillal | Not from me. I think it is a good early cycle goal. | 17:41 |
| TheJulia | jlvillal: ditto | 17:41 |
| rloo | jlvillal: +1 | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | done | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | now, deploy steps | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | this is at the spec stage | 17:42 |
| TheJulia | Queens imho | 17:42 |
| rloo | that needs the spec to be approved which won't happen in the near future, so Pike | 17:42 |
| rloo | Queens i mean | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | right | 17:42 |
| rloo | mind your Ps and Qs | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | actually, I wanted to ask if the ansible deploy method will cover the same functionality | 17:42 |
| vdrok | dtantsur: does the ansible driver cover that maybe? | 17:42 |
| vdrok | yup | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | PTG topic? | 17:42 |
| rloo | +1 | 17:42 |
| TheJulia | +1 | 17:43 |
| sambetts_ | +1 | 17:43 |
| dtantsur | ok, this goes to Queens for now, and let's talk about it again | 17:43 |
| rloo | although... ok, let's discuss :) | 17:43 |
| dtantsur | Supported power states API | 17:43 |
| dtantsur | this is the left-over of the soft power/NMI work | 17:43 |
| rloo | seems like someone is updating the patch now, so i think we can try to get it in | 17:44 |
| rloo | oh, does it need client too? | 17:44 |
| TheJulia | Even then, there is the question of should we have an api change | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | does not look like a lot of work, but that's an API change | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | I mean, we *can* have an API change, it's not going to be exposed in the client | 17:44 |
| TheJulia | I say lower priority, a stretch goal for this cycle | 17:44 |
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| TheJulia | and then land client stuff in the next cycle | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | it's already a low priority, yeah | 17:44 |
| rloo | so i'm fine because it is small API change. we can land that and the client code. just not release client til Queens. | 17:44 |
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| dtantsur | okay, sounds good | 17:45 |
| * TheJulia senses consensu | 17:45 | |
| TheJulia | consensus | 17:45 |
| dtantsur | Available clean steps API | 17:45 |
| dtantsur | the mic goes to rloo :) | 17:45 |
| rloo | heh, i started to look at it. then got distracted with other things. rolling upgrades is *almost* done, so I can take it up again. If we want? | 17:45 |
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| dtantsur | I would absolutely love to get it in, even if not exposed through the client | 17:45 |
| dtantsur | figuring out available clean steps is not an awesome tasks right now | 17:46 |
| dtantsur | other opinions? | 17:46 |
| rloo | dtantsur: ok then. will update that in next 1-2 weeks. | 17:46 |
| vdrok | yeah, worth getting in I think, thanks rloo | 17:47 |
| dtantsur | the last but not the least: etags | 17:47 |
| rloo | Queens I think. Patches haven't been rebased for a long time. | 17:47 |
| dtantsur | everything needs rebasing; extensive client change expected | 17:47 |
| TheJulia | Queens then | 17:48 |
| dtantsur | no pas-ha to oppose us :) | 17:48 |
| dtantsur | Queens? | 17:48 |
| rloo | i htink pas-ha is still on vacation | 17:48 |
| vdrok | yeah, pas-ha only gets back in a week, so.. | 17:48 |
| sambetts_ | Should be early queen's priority imo because it touches everything right? | 17:48 |
| dtantsur | kind of, yeah | 17:48 |
| dtantsur | heh, we already have a backlog for Queens :) | 17:49 |
| * rloo is concerned about everything we'd like to get into early Queens... | 17:49 | |
| dtantsur | ok, this was the last item. please take another look at the whole list | 17:49 |
| TheJulia | For discussion at the ptg, but perhaps we make it a queen thing targeting the middle to end of the cycle. | 17:49 |
| dtantsur | also, should I already remove Post-deploy VIF attach/detach already? | 17:50 |
| rloo | dtantsur: not until after rama_y sends out her email :) | 17:50 |
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| dtantsur | right | 17:50 |
| vdrok | oh, yeah, I forgot | 17:50 |
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| dtantsur | okay, other comments? ready to move on? | 17:51 |
| rloo | +1 moving on | 17:51 |
| dtantsur | I will send out a email summing up our decisions | 17:51 |
| dtantsur | #topic IRC business hours | 17:51 |
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| dtantsur | so, this is mine | 17:51 |
| dtantsur | I see the folks dedicating some time slots where they can actively help people on IRC | 17:52 |
| dtantsur | especially newcomers and beginners | 17:52 |
| dtantsur | this looks like a good idea. I constantly see folks trying to get help at 2am my time | 17:52 |
| dtantsur | without any luck | 17:52 |
| TheJulia | I like the idea, but I'm not sure that is going to make the 2am requests for help disappear | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | what if we have one slot in Europe evening/US morning and the other in US East evening/APAC morning? | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: well, at least people will know *when* they can find someone | 17:53 |
| TheJulia | perhaps both "recommended hours" and "if your question is not answered quickly, please hang out, wait." kind of approach? | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | the idea of office hours is that we know that at least some people will be there | 17:53 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: true | 17:53 |
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| rloo | +1 for TheJulia. I am not convinced about the 'official' hours. cuz none of us can really say we will always be there. | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | well, for me chances are high I'm online 9am - 5pm UTC | 17:54 |
| rloo | 'office hours' seems to make it official. that someone *will* be there. and if not, then someone needs to put up a sign saying 'back in 10 min' or whatever. | 17:54 |
| dtantsur | true, it's not cool if absolutely nobody will be online due to priorities, PTO, etc | 17:55 |
| rloo | how do the other projects? deal with it. i mean, how do they define office hours, etc. | 17:55 |
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| dtantsur | I can look more into it, cannot find right now | 17:55 |
| rloo | do people look at irc topic? maybe add a note there about hours when folks might be around? | 17:55 |
| rloo | or a smart bot that replies if no one else replies? :) | 17:56 |
| TheJulia | what about a notification keyword? | 17:56 |
| dtantsur | hah, make lucas revive PixieBoots :) | 17:56 |
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| rloo | I'm sorry, no one seems to be around now to answer your question, you might have better luck trying at ... | 17:56 |
| TheJulia | some of us do generally just help people at odd hours if they are prodded :) | 17:56 |
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| kaifeng | how about whiteboard | 17:56 |
| sambetts_ | I really like AFK nics we could have a bot that looks and recognises core nics and Afk nics | 17:57 |
| rloo | this must be a similar issue in other projects. maybe (yes) time to ask for what 'good practise' would be :) | 17:57 |
| dtantsur | sambetts_: my bouncer periodically reboots and reclaims the nick without afk.. | 17:57 |
| dtantsur | rloo: good call. I can take this task | 17:57 |
| sambetts_ | Ah :/ | 17:57 |
| TheJulia | I am only really AFK if I'm asleep or on a jet.... or just ignoring irc | 17:57 |
| rloo | thx dtantsur. (I always love it when the PTL looks after us.) | 17:57 |
| dtantsur | ^_^ | 17:58 |
| dtantsur | on a similar topic: some projects experiment with hosting these meetings in their own channels | 17:58 |
| dtantsur | I know tripleo did it and like it. I'm not sure how different it is in practice though.. | 17:58 |
| dtantsur | anyway, one minute alert! | 17:59 |
| rloo | why change if nothing is broke. | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | true | 17:59 |
| sambetts_ | I like it personally because it means we don't have to deal with time conflicts and people not finding our meeting | 17:59 |
| TheJulia | I like the distinct channel from a context switching standpoint | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | yeah, that was the goal | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | okay, this was just to make you think about it while I think about office hours ;) | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | thanks all! | 18:00 |
| dtantsur | #endmeeting ironic | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 24 18:00:05 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-07-24-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-07-24-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-07-24-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
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