Thursday, 2017-08-24

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tellesnobrega#startmeeting sahara14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 24 14:00:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tellesnobrega. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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toskyo/14:00
shuyingyao/14:00
zemuvierhi14:01
tellesnobregalets wait a couple minutes to see if anyone else shows up14:01
tellesnobrega#topic News/Updates14:03
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tellesnobregaI just finished preparing the schedule for the Queens PTG14:04
tellesnobrega#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-queens-ptg14:04
tellesnobregaI encourage all of you to take a look and suggest improvements14:04
toskyand it's pretty packed!14:05
toskya lot of stuff to discuss14:05
shuyingyainvestigating the scale up and down failed if user update cluster name before scaling14:05
shuyingyawill look it later14:05
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tellesnobregafor sure, it is going to be a busy couple of days14:05
tellesnobregashuyingya, that is interesting14:05
esikachevsory, i am late14:05
tellesnobregalet me know how that goes14:05
zemuviertrying to improve my patch for sahara-ci, nothing special14:05
tellesnobregano worries esikachev14:05
toskyfrom my side: the documentation should be settled, all repositories with documentation (doc, release notes, api, etc) have the new theme14:06
tellesnobregaI'm also working on CDH 5.9.0 image with new image generation14:06
toskyincluding sahara-specs (the last forgotten), and a tiny bit of cleanup, with major cleanup coming with/after the PTG, I guess14:06
tellesnobregaand we all salute you tosky for making that happen14:06
esikachevno updates from me. I planning to finish my patches for sahara-ci-config14:06
toskythe "no trust creation" was fixed with a team effort, Jeremy and Telles went to nag oslo people14:07
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tellesnobregayeah, I believe the final answer came with a talk with adam young from keystone team14:08
toskywe still have an action item in Queens to create a separate configuration section, and update puppet (and at least notify other installers like ansible) about that14:09
tellesnobregatrue14:09
shuyingyatosky and telles, really good partner, haha14:10
shuyingya:)14:10
tellesnobrega:)14:10
tellesnobregaalso, today I will be sending a patch with pike_rc214:10
tellesnobregaplease take a look once I send that14:10
toskyI still need to create a patch with the pike templates for sahara-tests, so that we can tag a release (just for reference)14:11
tellesnobregasure, but that is a separated patch right?14:12
tellesnobregaI mean, sahara-tests is not cut in the same way as the rest of the project14:13
toskyyes, totally independent14:14
tellesnobregacool14:14
toskyso ignore it for your release :)14:14
tellesnobrega:)14:14
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esikachev:)14:14
tellesnobrega#topic Queens PTG14:14
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tellesnobregajust a heads up, we are very close to PTG, so please get some time to study the discussion topics so we can make the most of our time together14:15
tellesnobregaas tosky mentioned to me yesterday, studying all of this will be a great read material for the flight14:15
tellesnobregaspecially for esikachev and zemuvier (longer flights I believe)14:15
esikachevyes, it's true14:16
tellesnobregabtw, zemuvier got approved by TSP and will be joining us at the PTG14:16
zemuvieryep, i will :)14:16
shuyingyaI am interested in how many people will attend sahara PTG this time14:16
tosky\o/14:16
tellesnobregaI believe we have confirmed 5 people14:16
tellesnobregamed_, tosky, esikachev, jeremy and zemuvier14:17
tellesnobregasorry med_14:17
tellesnobregaI mean me14:17
shuyingyanice  one more people to Atlanta14:17
esikachevdouble ping)14:17
tellesnobregashuyingya, I will try to see if I can get video conference for you to participate, but as I mentioned I'm not sure it will work, we need good microphones and speakers14:18
tellesnobregaso lets see how it goes14:18
tellesnobregaat the very least we can try to keep updating the etherpad and you can follow up there and shoot questions14:18
shuyingyathanks tellesnobrega. The etherpad is always useful14:19
tellesnobregayes14:19
shuyingyayep14:19
tellesnobregaI think this is all I have on the PTG14:19
tellesnobregadid any of you had talks accepted for the Sydney Summit?14:19
esikachev-14:20
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shuyingyamine not be accepted14:21
tellesnobregaI got one and might do a project update on Sahara if i'm confirmed to go there14:21
tellesnobreganot sure yet14:21
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tellesnobregaif anyone is going I would like to know because if I don't make it and someone else does and is willing to do the update it would be awesome as well14:22
tellesnobregalets move on14:22
tellesnobrega#topic Open Discussion14:22
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shuyingyahow about talking about the  name updated cluster scale up failed?14:23
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tellesnobregathat could work14:23
tellesnobregago ahead14:24
shuyingyahttp://paste.openstack.org/show/619327/14:24
shuyingyawhen I updated the cluster name (from old to new), no matter storm or vanilla cluster, all failed at this step14:25
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tellesnobregahm, the instaces names are updated as well?14:26
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shuyingyayep14:26
shuyingyaand the fixed ips are changed as well14:27
tellesnobregalooks like we are missing some updates here, maybe the instance reference is not updated on /etc/hosts14:28
tellesnobregabut the no such file or directory is very weird14:28
shuyingyaI have log out the /etc/hosts14:28
shuyingyawait a moment14:28
shuyingyayeah, that's what I am confused14:29
tellesnobregaI have to take a deeper look and will test it here, for sure something that needs reporting14:30
tellesnobregaplease file a bug on it14:30
shuyingyasure, but I want to get more info to describe it14:30
tellesnobregasounds good14:31
tellesnobregayou can always update the bug description14:31
tellesnobregait is good to write a first draft there just so we all know what is going on14:31
shuyingyaI forgot it  :(14:31
shuyingyaok14:31
tellesnobregano worries, just file the bug and once you get more info you update and we can compare notes on what is going on14:32
shuyingyasounds good14:32
shuyingyaanother thing is:14:32
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shuyingyawhen we support hbase on vanilla, do we need scale up zookeeper or HBase Regionserver? I am not sure.14:33
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shuyingyaor maybe I should post a bp to describe it14:33
toskyprobably14:34
tellesnobregahmm, I'm not sure either, maybe a bp describing why we need either will be better so we can look up more details and make an informed decision14:34
tellesnobregaat least I'm not able to say now what the better option is14:34
shuyingyaIn my product, I do scale them, but the code can be kind of intricate14:35
tellesnobregaI see14:35
shuyingyaso I will post the bug tomorrow. and write a bp on weekend14:36
tellesnobregaplease write the bp and/or spec and we can take  a look14:36
shuyingyatellesnobrega, would you try the name updated issue later?14:36
tellesnobregayes, as soon as I'm finished with a downstream task I will try that14:37
shuyingyayou experience would be great helpful I think14:37
tellesnobregahopefully today and at most tomorrow14:37
shuyingyano worry14:37
shuyingyaIt's not blocker for me14:37
tellesnobregacool14:38
shuyingyajust for curiosity14:38
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shuyingyaI have no more question :)14:38
tellesnobregacool14:38
tellesnobregadoes anybody else has other topics to discuss?14:39
toskynot from my side14:39
shuyingyathanks all14:39
esikachevnot from me14:39
tellesnobregaso I will give you all 20 minutes back14:39
tellesnobregathanks for being here and lets keep up the good work14:39
tellesnobregathanks all14:40
tellesnobrega#endmeeting14:40
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mlavalle#startmeeting neutron_l315:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 24 15:00:31 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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davidshaHi15:01
mlavallehi davidsha15:02
Swamihi15:02
mlavallehi Swami15:02
mlavalleI think haleyb|out is on vacation15:02
mlavalle#topic Announcements15:03
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mlavalleI haven't heard of a RC-215:03
mlavallehave others heard anything?15:03
Swamimlavalle: one of the DVR bug was tagged as RC2.15:04
mlavalleah ok15:04
Swamimlavalle: so I assumed that there would be RC2.15:04
mlavalleyeah, if we have anything tagged RC2, we will have one15:04
mlavalleThe other announcement is the PTG15:05
mlavalleSeptember 11th - 15th in Denver. If you have topics you want discussed there, add them to the etherpad:15:06
mlavalle#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-queens-ptg15:06
mlavalledavidsha: did you get travel approval?15:06
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davidshamlavalle: No, I didn't unfortunately, I'll try to appeal but it's unlikely :(15:07
mlavalleI was looking forward to see you there :-(15:07
mlavallemoving on...15:07
mlavalle#topic Bugs15:07
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mlavalleSwami: please go ahead with DVR / HA15:08
Swamimlavalle: Thanks15:08
Swamimlavalle: With DVR there were a couple of new bugs that popped up.15:08
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/171241215:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1712412 in neutron "DVR external port setup fails with KeyError: 'host'" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)15:09
SwamiThis KeyError log was seen in the multinode setup in gate. It was polluting the log file.15:09
mlavalleyeah15:10
SwamiI was looking into it and then  realized that the function that was actually checking for the bound host in the l3-agent in dvr_local_router is not required.15:10
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SwamiSince the function in dvr_local_router handles only bound fip related functions.15:10
mlavalleahhh, so that is why we don't get the host there, right?>15:11
SwamiSo I have pushed in a patch to remove the function. I also tried a test patch to see the gate failures, everything works as expected.15:11
Swamimlavalle: That is still unknown.15:12
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Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/497009/15:12
SwamiI had included some logs in the test patch to see if there are any ports that are not having a valid host, but I did not see anything on the server side.15:13
mlavalleIs this the bug taggedc rc2?15:13
SwamiYes this is the one that is tagged as RC2.15:14
mlavalleok, I'll review the patchset today15:14
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SwamiThere is another bug that was filed based on the multinode gate job.15:14
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/171146315:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1711463 in neutron "TestNetworkBasicOps.test_network_basic_ops failed with "Timed out waiting for 172.24.5.8 to become reachable"" [High,Confirmed]15:14
SwamiThis one I cannot reproduce in the gate or locally.15:15
SwamiBut I will keep to monitor and see what might be causing the SSH timeout.15:15
SwamiI don't think this is critical at this point.15:15
mlavalleI'll take a quick look15:16
Swamimlavalle: ok15:16
mlavalleand leave notes if I find somethin relevant15:16
Swamimlavalle: ok15:16
Swamimlavalle: while I was debugging the other keyerror issue I found another bug that the centralized_floating_ip cidrs are not returned correct.15:17
SwamiSo I filed a bug for it.15:17
Swami#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/171272815:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1712728 in neutron "DVR: get_router_cidrs in dvr_edge_router not returning the centralized_floating_ip cidr" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)15:17
SwamiI also have a patch for it.15:17
SwamiPatch link15:17
Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/497098/15:18
mlavalledo we need this in the rc2?15:18
Swamimlavalle: can you also tag this bug as RC2.15:18
mlavalleLOL15:18
SwamiI don't have the previlege to tag it.15:18
mlavalleDone15:19
SwamiThose are the only three bugs in DVR for now.15:19
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SwamiBut while looking at the Server logs, I still see some 'Failed to bind the port' error.15:20
mlavalleis this bug high importance?15:20
Swamimlavalle: yes it is required, since it is not cleaning up the DNAT rule in the snat namespace for the last FIP>15:20
mlavalleI thought so, I just set it to high15:21
SwamiI see some 'Failed to bind the port' error in server log. We recently fixed this bug.15:21
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Swamimlavalle: But I am seeing it again. May be it is trigged in someother path. I will take a look at it and file a bug on it.15:21
SwamiIt is just a log noise, nothing serious.15:22
mlavalleThanks for watching that :-)15:22
SwamiAlso had this patch for review.15:22
Swami#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/494376/15:22
Swamimlavalle: thanks for your comments on this patch. I have addressed your comments.15:23
mlavalleI saw that, thanks15:23
Swamimlavalle: I had one question on this patch. Since the 'delete_port_on_error' is already handling the exception, I don't think we need add another test case for it.15:23
mlavallemhhhh15:24
mlavalleare we catching the exception in the test case you submitted?15:24
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Swamimlavalle: no I can't trigger that exception.15:24
mlavalleahhh15:25
Swamimlavalle: In other words I am not sure how to trigger that DB exception.15:25
mlavalleI see what you say15:25
mlavalleLet me look at it today15:25
mlavalleI'll review today15:25
Swamimlavalle: ok thanks15:25
SwamiThat's all I had for today with respect to DVR. I will keep on eye on the logs to see if there are any other issues.15:26
mlavalleThanks Swami for the update and your hard work15:26
mlavalleOn the other side I only have https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/171020315:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1710203 in neutron " Add port dns_domain processing logic" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel)15:27
mlavalleI have a patch up for review for this:15:27
mlavalle#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495466/15:27
mlavalleTake a look if you have a chance15:28
mlavalleIt's a doc15:28
Swamimlavalle: ok I will take a look at it.15:28
mlavalleAny other bugs we should discuss today?15:28
Swamimlavalle: nothing else from my side.15:29
mlavalleok, moving on15:29
mlavalle#topic Routed Networks15:29
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mlavalleTwo things here15:30
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mlavalleThe spec for floating IPs for routed netrowks is up for review:15:30
mlavalle#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486450/15:31
mlavalleand the presentation with Swami for Sydney on the routed networks update was approved :-)15:31
Swamimlavalle: Hey!!!15:31
mlavalleI already applied for mu Aussie visa15:32
Swamimlavalle: I have to start my visa process.15:32
mlavalleSwami: do you have a US passport?15:32
Swamimlavalle: Do we need a invitation letter or just can apply for a tourist visa.15:32
Swamimlavalle: No I don't have a US passport.15:32
mlavalleNo, I don't think you need a letter15:33
Swamimlavalle: yes that's what I understand. I need to start the online application going.15:33
mlavallejust google Australian Visa and they have a website where you apply15:33
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mlavallein the case of US passport holder you just fill out a form, pay about $15 US and you get the visa right away15:34
mlavallereally easy15:34
Swamimlavalle: that's easy.15:34
mlavalle#topic Open Agenda15:35
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mlavalleAny other topics we should cover today?15:35
Swamimlavalle: I don't have any15:35
mlavalleok, enjoy the rest of the week....15:36
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mlavalle#endmeeting15:36
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Swamibye15:37
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elmiko#startmeeting api-sig16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 24 16:00:47 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is elmiko. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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elmiko#chair edleafe cdent16:01
openstackWarning: Nick not in channel: cdent16:01
openstackCurrent chairs: cdent edleafe elmiko16:01
dtantsuro/16:01
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elmikohey16:01
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cdento/16:02
cdentsorry, was busily trying to convince other TC that code complexity is a real problem16:02
elmiko#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-SIG#Agenda16:02
elmikono worries16:02
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elmikowow, that sounds like an intense discussion with lots of code samples16:02
cdentwe got an edleafe ?16:02
elmikohaven't heard from him, but he's around somewhere16:03
elmikomaybe give him a minute or 2?16:03
elmiko#topic previous meeting action items16:05
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elmiko#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2017/16:05
elmikoso, i did my email thingie16:05
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elmikoonly got 2 responses, one was an out-of-office notice, the other was a suggestion about hitting more PTLs16:06
cdentdid you not hit all the ptls?16:06
elmikobut, i did get into a chat with the PTL for sahara and he was considering if they should do a review16:06
elmikoi *think* i did16:07
elmikoi used the list from the governance rpo16:07
elmiko*repo16:07
dtantsurI'm still interested, but I did not have any time to wrap my head around it16:07
cdentwell, seeing as we don’t have a ton of topic prepare for the ptg, we may be able to take walkins16:08
elmikoyeah16:08
elmikothis was the list i used16:08
elmikohttps://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/projects.yaml16:08
cdent#link ptg etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-ptg-queens16:08
elmikothere was some concern that maybe the queens PTLs had not been added yet16:08
elmikoack, i can send the email again just to be certain16:08
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elmikoanything else about the ptl list or action items?16:10
cdenta valid point. but I also think rc2 is an issue. and also, for many this api stuff is not really all that relevant in the grand scheme16:10
elmikogreat point16:10
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cdentso I think if we get one or two respondents _this year_, that’s a success16:10
cdent(unfortunately)16:10
elmikoagreed16:11
elmikoand i can send the email again when we are like 1 week out from the ptg16:11
cdentit’s useful to have the service written up, something we can point to16:11
cdentthat’s a good idea16:11
elmiko#action elmiko send ptl email again 1 week before ptg16:11
elmikojust so i don't forget16:11
cdent(I’ve remembered where edleafe is: he had an appointment and will not be here today, I’m supposed to assign all actions to him)16:11
cdent16:11
elmikoLOL16:11
dtantsur:D16:11
elmiko#action edleafe take care of stuff16:12
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cdent+2W16:12
elmikohahaha16:12
cdentand so it shall be16:12
elmikomoving along16:12
elmiko#topic open mic and new biz16:12
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elmikoanything here to review?16:12
cdented has the ball on SIG namign stuff16:12
cdentI don’t know the state16:12
elmikoack16:12
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elmikofor posterity16:13
elmiko#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-ptg-queens16:13
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cdentelmiko are you signed up for ptgbot: http://ptg.openstack.org/ptg.html16:13
cdentI think we got edleafe signed up16:13
elmikoi looked at it, don't think i'm authorized to do anything though16:14
elmikodo i need to make a request in the ptg channel?16:15
cdentyou have to ask in #openstack-prg16:15
cdentsorry #openstack-ptg16:15
elmikoack16:15
elmikothanks16:15
diablo_rojo_phonelmiko: I can get you access in a bit once you hop in the channel.16:16
cdentelmiko: you’ll like the bot because it says “ack” a lot16:16
elmikoah, sweet16:16
elmiko=)16:16
elmikogotta ack16:16
elmikodiablo_rojo_phon: i just dropped a message in there16:16
elmikook, anything else we should cover here?16:17
elmikoactually, i just thought of something16:17
cdentapi-sig diner16:17
cdentdinner16:17
cdentI’m thinking monday is best16:17
elmikodid we come up with any sort of agenda for talking with the sdk folks?16:17
elmikoagreed, monday works for me16:17
cdentas far as I can tell flanders put more stuff on the sdk etherpad (linked from that series of email) but I got no real sense of next actions16:18
dtantsurcurrently the ironic folks also seems to prefer monday for our dinner..16:18
dtantsurbut this may change (and you may ignore me anyway)16:18
cdentaw, it wouldn’t be the same without you16:19
elmikomaybe sunday night?16:19
cdentbut I think elmiko may be leaving on tuesday? and I’m busy sunday16:19
elmikoyeah, i'm out tuesday afternoon16:19
elmikook, well if you don't make the dinner dtantsur, maybe you can make the api-sig barcrawl16:20
cdentmonday it is16:20
dtantsurokay, maybe it's not going to end up on Monday. the ironic party, I mean..16:20
cdentvarious emails suggest that where the hotel is is a bit of a wasteland16:20
cdentbut we’ll cross that bridge closer to the time16:20
elmiko#agreed api-sig ptg dinner on monday night16:21
elmikosounds good16:21
dtantsurit looked a wasteland on the google street view indeed16:21
cdentspeaking of: I will miss the next two meetings. I’ll be flying the next one, and at some “edge” conference the next one.16:21
elmikonoted16:21
elmiko#topic guidelines16:21
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elmiko#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z16:22
elmiko#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-sig,n,z16:22
elmikothe extensions peice is coming along nicely16:22
cdentthe only one in any reviewable state is mine and I think that needs more local review before being frozen16:22
cdentjinx16:22
elmikoshould we wait for more +1s before going to freeze?16:22
elmikohaha16:22
elmikoi16:22
elmikoi'm good with waiting for more reviews16:22
elmikoand i guess at some point we'll need to circle back around on mordred's PRs?16:23
cdentyes, I was thinking about that this morning and wondered whether one of us needs to pick them up, but then decide there was too much other stuff on my radar to think about that16:24
cdent(so stopped)16:24
elmikowell, at the least we could talk about it at the ptg (assuming no movement by then)16:24
cdenttru16:24
elmikoi fear i'm in the same boat as you, work-wise16:25
cdentspeaking of ptg topics, I wrote this as sort of a get my thoughts aligned for when people ask about them: https://anticdent.org/microversion-conversion-therapy.html16:25
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elmikovery groovy16:26
elmikoshould we post a sign about "microversion therapy $0.05" ?16:26
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cdentsure, why not16:27
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elmikook, so that can also be a possible topic if we get enough people interested16:27
cdentyeah it’s already on the etherpad16:27
elmikoawesome16:28
elmiko#topic bug review16:28
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elmiko#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg16:28
elmiko#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-sig16:28
cdentI closed a bug (the placement needs a service type one)16:28
cdentand I added some comments on https://anticdent.org/microversion-conversion-therapy.html16:28
cdentwhooops not that16:28
elmikohehe16:28
cdent#link singular resource https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg/+bug/159331016:28
openstackLaunchpad bug 1593310 in openstack-api-sig "guidance required on the basic form for representing a singular resource" [Undecided,New]16:28
elmikoyeah, you've been burning down our tech debt16:29
elmikocdent++16:29
cdentthat one may need some discussion, there are effectively three options: top level, nested by type, something like jsonapi16:29
cdentlifting and shifting people to jsonapi is likely impossible (also it is weird)16:29
cdentwe have a mixture of the other two options throughout openstack16:29
elmikoyeah, i could see that16:29
elmikowhen you say "nested by type", that is a resource contained in a json object with it's key being the type?16:30
elmiko{"mytype": ....}16:30
cdentyeah top-level: /foo/id -> {‘name’: ‘barney’}16:30
elmikoack16:30
elmikoi really like your note about getting some outside input16:31
cdentnested: /foo/id -> {‘foo’: {‘name’: ‘barney’}}16:31
elmikoi have a feeling i know what i'd push as a guideline, but i like hearing other opinions16:31
cdentjsonapi: /foo/id -> {data: {‘type’: ‘foos’, ‘name’: ‘barney’}}\16:31
cdent(and there are other keys besides data16:32
elmikoright16:32
elmikoi've looked at jsonapi, like you mention it would be nearly impossible to get that across the projects16:32
cdentI don’t like nested because I think that’s an indicator that you must have bad URIs, but then again, it is all over the place16:32
elmikointeresting16:33
elmikoi thought nested would be better as it's more explicit16:33
cdentI think it probably really comes down to what I’m used to/used before16:34
elmikogotcha16:34
cdentand no _real_ reason16:34
elmikoyeah, i've heard explanations about why nested might be preferred, but never about top level16:34
elmikoand the nested explanations probably also suffered from perception bias16:34
cdentprobably strong typers!16:36
elmikoexactly16:36
* elmiko chuckles16:36
cdentanyway, I’ll link this to that bug, so we have some additional info16:36
elmikogreat, thanks16:36
cdentand try to incorporate what I hear from others16:37
elmikoif we get lonely at ptg, we can start an argument about it XD16:37
cdentarguments++16:37
elmikohehe16:37
elmikook, then, moving along16:38
cdentI suspect it is my turn for the newsletter?16:38
elmiko#topic weekly newsletter16:38
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elmiko#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-newsletter16:38
elmikoor we can dice off for it or something?16:38
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cdentheh, unless you for some reason really want to do it I’ll get it this time since I’ll be gone for the next two16:39
elmikosounds good16:39
elmikothanks16:39
elmikowell then, safe travels cdent and we'll see you in denver =)16:40
cdenti’ll ping you when I need a proof16:40
cdentyeah, looking forward to it16:40
elmikothanks dtantsur16:40
elmikogreat cdent16:40
elmiko#endmeeting16:40
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Aug 24 16:40:35 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:40
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cdentthanks elmiko16:41
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mordredelmiko, cdent: sorry about those changes - intending on getting them refreshed either by or shortly after ptg16:44
cdentmordred: is cool. good work comes in waves16:45
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elmikomordred: agreed with cdent, no worries on the timing we're just updating ourselves16:48
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mordredcool16:57
mordredI want to get that landed because we landed most of it in ksa already so it's a little tail wagging dog at this point16:57
cdentmordred: did you manage to make the document wrong while doing the ksa work?16:57
mordredcdent: don't think so - but I believe we may have learned a few things which can clarify/simplify16:59
cdentthat’s a win16:59
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SumitNaiksatamtbachman: annak rkukura: hi18:00
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: hi!18:00
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annakhi!18:01
rkukurahi18:01
SumitNaiksatamwill try to keep it short18:01
SumitNaiksatam#startmeeting networking_policy18:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 24 18:01:13 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:01
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SumitNaiksatam##info agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/GroupBasedPolicy#Aug_17th.2C_24_201718:01
SumitNaiksatam#topic Subnetpools in resource_mapping driver18:01
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SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/46968118:01
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: annak, as before, thanks for working on this18:02
annaktbachman: thanks for comments18:02
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: thanks for the review18:02
tbachmanannak: np!18:02
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: np!18:02
tbachmanannak: nice work!18:02
SumitNaiksatami took a quick look as well18:02
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: +218:02
annakthanks :)18:02
SumitNaiksatamthe tbachman the issue that tbachman did not strike me18:02
* tbachman likes annak’s improvements to the code18:02
SumitNaiksatami need to look more closely18:03
SumitNaiksatamyes, indeed annak great work18:03
* tbachman parses that previous sentence18:03
annaklol18:03
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: i meant to say that i didnt think of it, but the concern might be well placed18:03
tbachman:)18:03
SumitNaiksatambut other than that the patch looked good to me18:03
SumitNaiksatam:-)18:04
tbachmanI think I’m good with the new version of the patch18:04
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: ah okay18:04
SumitNaiksatami know rkukura is probably making his way to this patch after the other patches :-)18:04
rkukuraI’ll review the latest version ASAP18:04
SumitNaiksatami would hope to merge this soon since its been on review for a while18:05
annakperhaps I'll port it first to ocata and verify with nsx gate job18:05
annakthere shouldn't be, but just in case18:05
annakthe gate is currently for ocata only18:05
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SumitNaiksatamannak: oh sure, good call18:06
SumitNaiksatamannak: you can proactively backport it18:06
annakthere shouldn't be issues, I meant to say18:06
annakok18:06
SumitNaiksatamhopefully there should not be too many changes18:06
SumitNaiksatamand if there are, cherry-picking again to stable/ocata from master is straighforward18:07
annakyep18:07
SumitNaiksatami backport even when my patch is not ready so that i dont forget :-P18:07
tbachmanlol18:07
* tbachman has done that before18:07
SumitNaiksatamso i apologize for the noise that i might be creating in terms of gerrit emails!18:07
tbachman(forgotten, that is ;) )18:07
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: lol18:08
SumitNaiksatam#topic Pending patches18:08
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SumitNaiksatami am just going in top down order18:08
SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/49642918:08
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: annak: thanks for your review on this18:08
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: np!18:08
SumitNaiksatami am happy to discuss this patch or the context here in this meeting18:08
SumitNaiksatamtbachman probably has a little more context than other folks on this18:09
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: I’m glad you did this — it’s something I’d had in the back of my mind for a bit, after I found a similar issue18:10
rkukuraquick summary would be helpful18:10
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: oh cool18:10
tbachmans/thanks for doing/I’m blad you did/18:10
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: sure18:10
tbachmaner18:10
tbachmanother way round18:10
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: lol18:10
tbachmans/I’m glad you did/thanks for doing/18:10
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: so i was investigating another issue which was reported by a customer wherein,18:10
SumitNaiksatamin a multi-node neutron server setup, all the neutron servers were getting the same message from the host (opflex) agent18:11
SumitNaiksatamwhile debugging i realized that GBP policy drivers dont have a way to add the RPC listeners they create, to the RPC workers’ thread that neutron creates and manages18:12
SumitNaiksatamso although Neutron creates, say, 24 RPC workers, the listener setup by, say, the aim_mapping PD was only listening in one thread18:12
SumitNaiksatamor one worker18:13
SumitNaiksatamneutron provides a method (start_rpc_listeners) that needs to be implemented by the core plugin or the service_plugins18:13
rkukuraok, but how does using the worker threads prevent the same message from being processed in multiple neutron-server processes, if I understood you correctly?18:13
SumitNaiksatamthat is based on the call/cast semantics18:14
rkukuraso we were getting cast semantics, but using start_rpc_listeners gives us call semantics?18:14
SumitNaiksatamno the issue is much simpler18:15
rkukuraor is that orthogonal?18:15
SumitNaiksatamyeah that is orthogonal18:15
SumitNaiksatamin the case of call, we want that one of multiple workers be able to pick up the message18:16
rkukuraI guess if we have cast semantics, multiple worker threads will scale better18:16
SumitNaiksatambut with the GBP PD you could only create one worker18:16
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: right18:16
SumitNaiksatambut GBP PD did not give you an option to do multiple workers18:16
SumitNaiksatamthis patch wires up the neutron call all the way to the PD18:16
SumitNaiksatamin case you (as in, the PD) wants to add to the worker pool18:17
rkukuraok, so this makes sense, and I guess we should do a separate patch to switch to call semantics for this RPC if necessary18:17
SumitNaiksatamso there was an issue with call versus cast, which i had to fix on the python-opflex side18:17
tbachmanI guess this patch also makes lifecycle management of the listeners better?18:18
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: yes we are participating in the framework that neutron provides18:18
tbachman(since this moves into an RpcWorker18:18
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: right that is my understanding18:18
rkukurathanks SumitNaiksatam  - that really helps18:19
tbachmanrkukura: +1k18:19
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: incorrect use of cast versus call turned out to be the original issue that i was investigating18:19
SumitNaiksatamnp18:19
SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/49187418:19
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: hi ^^^18:20
SumitNaiksatamis it ready now?18:20
tbachman:)18:20
tbachmanI think it’s ready for reviews18:20
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: ok thanks18:20
rkukuramy issues were very minor - I’ll re-review the update ASAP18:21
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: thanks18:21
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: ack to rkukura  :)18:21
SumitNaiksatamthere are a bunch of UI patches that are pending review:18:21
SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/group-based-policy-ui+branch:master18:21
SumitNaiksatami would like to thank marek for posting these patches18:22
SumitNaiksatamsorry, i have been behind18:22
SumitNaiksatamif anyone else in the team wants to take a stab, would appreciate that18:22
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SumitNaiksatamthe problem we have with gbpui is that there isnt enough regression test support18:22
SumitNaiksatamso you have to try these patches to actually validate18:23
SumitNaiksatamthat takes a bit of time18:23
* tbachman nodes18:23
tbachmannods18:23
SumitNaiksatamthere are some patches from ales as well, and these are more tricky to review18:23
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: I haven’t looked at these yet, but hopefully the patch describes the issue and what’s fixed?18:24
SumitNaiksatamor at least this one:18:24
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SumitNaiksatamhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/493830/18:24
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: yes :-)18:24
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: thx!18:24
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: but thanks for at least showing an inclination to look :-P18:24
tbachmanlol18:24
SumitNaiksatami know you reviewed the earlier patch as well18:24
tbachmanyeah — that was the motivation behind my question ;)18:25
SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:gbp_fip18:25
annakI'll take a look though I don't think I ever opened the ui for gbp. Maybe its a good trigger18:25
SumitNaiksatamannak: thanks :-)18:25
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: on those two patches from annak, are we still waiting for something to merge on the apic/aim side?18:26
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SumitNaiksatami meant in stable/ocata18:26
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: I think we’re good. I went ahead and rebased them18:27
SumitNaiksatamlet me be more specific:18:27
tbachman(the stable/ocata ones)18:27
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: oh thanks18:27
SumitNaiksatamso the aim job fails on this:18:27
SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/496918/18:27
SumitNaiksatammaybe just a rebase required18:28
SumitNaiksatamjust rebased18:28
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: thx!18:28
SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/496917/18:28
annakthx18:28
SumitNaiksatamannak: on this ^^^ we are not waiting for your CI, right?18:28
tbachmanIs there an NSX gate on master?18:29
annakno, no need to wait18:29
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: i think annak just said no, hence my question18:29
SumitNaiksatamannak: thanks18:29
tbachmanah18:29
tbachmangot it18:29
tbachman:)18:29
annaktbachman: no, I'm trying to wire up one18:29
SumitNaiksatamannak: how is this test different from the other gbp_fip test?18:30
tbachmanannak: ack. Thx!18:30
annakSumitNaiksatam: it has --enable_dhcp=False on external network18:30
SumitNaiksatamannak: ah okay, thanks, would have been difficult to catch :-)18:30
annakand another change related to default GW in static routes, which I'm still looking at on nsx side18:31
SumitNaiksatamannak: come to think of it, i think we can do the same with the other script as well18:31
SumitNaiksatamannak: okay18:31
SumitNaiksatambut i dont think the default gateway needs to be ON for ext networks for the resource_mapping driver either18:31
annakSumitNaiksatam: so if it ends up as dhcp issue only, should I unify them back?18:31
SumitNaiksatami guess we are just picking up the default18:31
SumitNaiksatamannak: yes, that would be nice18:31
SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/49429918:32
annakSumitNaiksatam: ok18:32
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: #gate-world-problems18:32
* tbachman notes it passes NSX gate ;)18:32
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SumitNaiksatamtbachman: lol18:33
SumitNaiksatami finished my testing of this ^^^ patch on a live setup (with the aim_mapping driver) and it works18:33
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: needs a rebase, I think18:33
SumitNaiksatamwith the fixes that come in the patch it can work with any PD (not just aim_mapping)18:33
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: yes i will18:33
SumitNaiksatambut i havent been able to fix the UT issues on this18:33
SumitNaiksatami dont know how keystone related issues got triggered in the patch because my changes are unrelated18:34
SumitNaiksatami spent a while but i need to spend some more18:34
SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/496242/18:34
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: i guess we have this covered18:35
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: ack. rkukura had a good catch there18:35
tbachmanI am working on addressing that now18:35
* tbachman needs to learn more about alembic migrations :P18:35
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: thanks18:35
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: thanks for the review18:35
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: +1k18:35
SumitNaiksatamyes indeed, good catch18:35
rkukuranp18:35
SumitNaiksatami believe rkukura did something similar in an earlier patch18:36
SumitNaiksatambelieve -> recall18:36
SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/496855/18:36
SumitNaiksatami guess this is straightforward18:37
SumitNaiksatam#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/491894/18:38
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: how about that one?18:38
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: working on some UTs18:38
SumitNaiksatamah okay, you had mentioned earlier18:38
tbachmanI want the router port status to merge before I add the L3 UTs18:38
SumitNaiksatamthanks!18:38
tbachmanand am working on UTs for the core plugin18:38
SumitNaiksatamright right18:38
SumitNaiksatamokay i think that covers all the patches that need to attention18:39
SumitNaiksatam#topic Open Discussion18:39
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rkukuranothing from me18:39
* tbachman will not be at the PTG18:39
annaknor from me..18:39
SumitNaiksatamjust a programming note at my end, i will be on leave starting tomorrow, and will be back on Sept 1st18:39
* tbachman is still pining fo Sydney ;)18:39
SumitNaiksatamyeah, i wont be at the PTG either18:39
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: cool18:39
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: cooler if I get to go ;)18:40
tbachmanlol18:40
rkukuraI won’t be at PTG18:40
SumitNaiksatamannak: i think you should just come to the bay area, we can do the PTG here :-)18:40
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: enjoy the PTO!18:40
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: thanks18:40
annaklol :)18:40
annakI will likely come somewhere around january18:40
annakwould be happy to meet18:40
SumitNaiksatamannak: ah okay18:40
rkukuraright, tbachman and I will both be there  the PTG week18:40
* tbachman doesn’t know where annak resides18:41
SumitNaiksatami was going to say rkukura  and tbachman will be coming in Sept18:41
annaktbachman: Vancouver18:41
tbachmanannak: nice!18:41
SumitNaiksatamannak: i loved vancouver18:41
* tbachman hails from the Pacific NW18:41
* tbachman gets off-topic18:41
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: there you go!18:41
SumitNaiksatamon your next seattle trip :-)18:41
annakwell the next summit is here :)18:41
SumitNaiksatamannak: oh yeah18:41
tbachman:)18:41
SumitNaiksatammay be we should all go18:41
SumitNaiksatamalrighty thanks all18:42
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: thanks!18:42
SumitNaiksatambye!18:42
annakthanks, bye!18:42
rkukurathanks SumitNaiksatam!18:42
rkukurabye18:42
SumitNaiksatam#endmeeting18:42
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