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| gcb | #startmeeting oslo | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 23 14:00:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gcb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, crushil, dansmith, dhellmann | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for dims, dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for GheRivero, haypo, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for kragniz, lhx_, lifeless, lxsli, Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for redrobot, rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek,zxy | 14:00 |
| zxy | o/ | 14:01 |
| ansmith | o/ | 14:01 |
| gcb | hi zxy | 14:01 |
| zxy | hi | 14:01 |
| jungleboyj | O/ | 14:02 |
| gcb | ansmith, jungleboyj : welcome | 14:02 |
| gcb | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 14:02 |
| ansmith | hi gcb | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:02 | |
| gcb | #chair ansmith | 14:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: ansmith gcb | 14:02 |
| gcb | I didn't find failures in our periodic jobs | 14:03 |
| gcb | http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/?groupKey=build_name&resolutionKey=hour&searchProject=-with-oslo | 14:04 |
| jungleboyj | That is good. | 14:04 |
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| gcb | #topic Releases | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:05 | |
| gcb | queens release patch in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514149/ | 14:05 |
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| gcb | dims, dhellmann : please review oslo release patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514149/ , we don't release in last week | 14:07 |
| dhellmann | gcb : the release system is still broken after the zuulv3 upgrade. We're working on it. | 14:07 |
| gcb | dhellmann: ack | 14:07 |
| dhellmann | No one released successfully last week. | 14:07 |
| jungleboyj | dhellmann: Bummer. Thanks for the update on that. | 14:08 |
| gcb | not sure how long we can work smoothly with zuul v3 | 14:08 |
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| gcb | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:09 | |
| gcb | dims, dhellmann: I find some simple ready for approval patches: https://review.openstack.org/511413 https://review.openstack.org/500446 https://review.openstack.org/511783 https://review.openstack.org/499996 https://review.openstack.org/500666 | 14:11 |
| gcb | please help review when you're free :-) | 14:12 |
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| gcb | another my patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/492030/ | 14:13 |
| gcb | Any other reviews ? | 14:13 |
| gcb | #topic Sydney Oslo Updates | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sydney Oslo Updates (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:14 | |
| gcb | As we discussed in last weekly meeting, we have been collecting updates in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-live-from-oslo | 14:15 |
| gcb | we have 4 updates : Machine Readable Sample Config | 14:16 |
| gcb | Global Request IDs | 14:16 |
| gcb | Oslo messaging updates | 14:16 |
| gcb | Improving logging debugging | 14:16 |
| gcb | If anyone have other updates, feel free to add it in the etherpad link. I will finish the slides this week, then we can review it in next weekly meeting | 14:17 |
| dims | ack on the simple reviews gcb (sorry late start today) | 14:18 |
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| gcb | dims: thanks, everyone is busy :-) | 14:18 |
| gcb | #topic Open discussion | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:19 | |
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| gcb | dims: will you attend the Sydney Summit ? | 14:21 |
| dims | gcb : yes, i'll be there | 14:21 |
| gcb | dims: cool, I passed the visa application last week, so I can attend in time | 14:22 |
| dims | very cool. | 14:22 |
| gcb | Any other thing to discuss LOL | 14:26 |
| gcb | we can end the meeting early if we have no one | 14:27 |
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| gcb | thanks everyone | 14:27 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks! | 14:28 |
| zxy | thanks gcb | 14:28 |
| gcb | #endmeeting | 14:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:28 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 23 14:28:56 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-10-23-14.00.html | 14:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-10-23-14.00.txt | 14:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-10-23-14.00.log.html | 14:29 |
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| dtantsur | #startmeeting ironic | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 23 17:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtantsur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 17:00 |
| rpioso | o/ | 17:00 |
| rama_y | o/ | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | #chair TheJulia | 17:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: TheJulia dtantsur | 17:00 |
| crushil | o/ | 17:00 |
| namnh | o/ | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic our agenda | 17:00 |
| rloo | o/ | 17:01 |
| TheJulia | o/ | 17:01 |
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| Nisha_Agarwal | o/ | 17:01 |
| jlvillal | o/ | 17:01 |
| sambetts | o/ | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | hi all! | 17:02 |
| dtantsur | #topic Announcements / Reminder | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements / Reminder (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:02 | |
| dtantsur | #info Congratulations to TheJulia for being elected to the TC | 17:02 |
| * TheJulia blushes | 17:02 | |
| rloo | yippee!!! | 17:02 |
| sambetts | \o/ | 17:02 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: Thanks! | 17:02 |
| jlvillal | Nice! :) | 17:02 |
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| rpioso | \o/ | 17:02 |
| mjturek | o/ | 17:02 |
| baha | o/ | 17:03 |
| mjturek | congrats TheJulia!!! | 17:03 |
| dtantsur | #info A bunch of releases from master and stable branches to happen this week | 17:04 |
| TheJulia | \o/ | 17:04 |
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| dtantsur | ironic-lib 2.11 was just released with etingof's "by_path" root device hint | 17:04 |
| dtantsur | more cool stuff to follow | 17:04 |
| dtantsur | mmmm, anything else to announce? | 17:05 |
| TheJulia | I'll be traveling next week starting Tuesday night, to sydney. If there is anything people need from me, or want to pile on my plate, please let me know by monday. | 17:05 |
| dtantsur | oh, note that releases are going out slowly, as the releases tooling has not fully recovered from zuul v3 move | 17:05 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: maybe mention the email thread about traits. | 17:05 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: you'll have to party for all of us who stay home :D | 17:05 |
| dtantsur | rloo: aha | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | #info Traits discussion is happening on the ML | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | lemme find links | 17:06 |
| rloo | wondering if the meeting has to happen this week if more folks are travelling next week | 17:06 |
| * TheJulia makes a wile e coyote sign that says "eek!" | 17:06 | |
| dtantsur | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123675.html | 17:06 |
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| dtantsur | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123893.html planning for a call | 17:06 |
| dtantsur | rloo: Thu is the winner currently | 17:07 |
| dtantsur | anything else? | 17:07 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: when does voting end? | 17:07 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: let's say EOD tomorrow | 17:07 |
| TheJulia | ok | 17:07 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: So we will do a pike release or Ironic soon? | 17:07 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: Another one, that is. | 17:07 |
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| jlvillal | s/or Ironic/of Ironic/ | 17:08 |
| NobodyCam | :p | 17:08 |
| mjturek | if you're getting a 404 on the link in the thread, remove the `.` at the end | 17:08 |
| dtantsur | Pike? lemme check | 17:08 |
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| mgoddard | o/ | 17:08 |
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| anup | mjturek, yes i got that | 17:08 |
| anup | mjturek, thanks for pointing that out | 17:09 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: yep, enough good stuff for another pike release | 17:09 |
| dtantsur | anything else? | 17:09 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: Great. One of our customers wants a fix in there :) | 17:09 |
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| dtantsur | btw, if you wonder how I do it, there is a great tool in the openstack/releases repo: ./tools/list_unreleased_changes.sh stable/pike openstack/ironic | 17:10 |
| dtantsur | I suspect we need to say thank you to dhellmann for it :) | 17:10 |
| jlvillal | Thanks. | 17:10 |
| TheJulia | I <3 those tools | 17:10 |
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| rloo | thanks dhellmann! | 17:10 |
| dtantsur | okay, let's move on, I guess | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | #topic Review action items from previous meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ | 17:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review action items from previous meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:11 | |
| dtantsur | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-10-16-17.00.html | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | 1. dtantsur to ask milan and sam about approving https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic-inspector/+bug/1719812 | 17:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1719812 in Ironic Inspector "[RFE] support API access policy definition and enforcement " [Wishlist,Fix released] - Assigned to Pavlo Shchelokovskyy (pshchelo) | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | the patch was merged in the meantime, sooooo :) good job, Dmitry! | 17:12 |
| rloo | :) | 17:12 |
| sambetts | :-P | 17:12 |
| dtantsur | 2. TheJulia to take lead the bug triaging this week | 17:12 |
| dtantsur | how did this go? I see the bug number decreasing | 17:12 |
| TheJulia | I fell down on triaging due to being sick last week, although it looks in fairly good shape this morning | 17:13 |
| rloo | might be partly due to me triaging the HIGH bugs last week, i 'removed' a few of them | 17:13 |
| dtantsur | nice, thanks rloo and TheJulia | 17:13 |
| dtantsur | #topic Review subteam status reports (capped at ten minutes) | 17:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review subteam status reports (capped at ten minutes) (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:14 | |
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| dtantsur | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard line 143 | 17:15 |
| rloo | oh, announcement. zuulv3 is working. yayyyyyy! :D | 17:15 |
| TheJulia | \o/ | 17:16 |
| jlvillal | Woot! Does that include stable too? | 17:16 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: not yet | 17:16 |
| dtantsur | vdrok has patches to move jobs to stable branches too | 17:16 |
| dtantsur | rloo: re "Old ironic CLI deprecation", we call it done for now, right? | 17:16 |
| rloo | dtantsur: yup | 17:16 |
| dtantsur | so we can remove the item before the next meeting | 17:16 |
| dtantsur | (after it gets recorded on the ML) | 17:16 |
| rloo | dtantsur: yup. that's my plan. or yours :) | 17:17 |
| dtantsur | whoever is faster :) | 17:17 |
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| dtantsur | it feels like good progress on everything, except for rescue | 17:17 |
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| dtantsur | we need to give it some attention, I guess | 17:17 |
| rloo | dtantsur: wrt API version negotiation: I'm good if the version=1 work goes into a subsequent release | 17:17 |
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| dtantsur | rloo: I'll check how easy it is to do it | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | it may be one-two lines, then I'll roll it into the same patch | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | as it's also kind of a breaking change | 17:18 |
| rloo | dtantsur: the decision about what to do with 'ironic' CLI is more important i think | 17:18 |
| rloo | dtantsur: i tested, and setting version to 1 never worked if i tested correctly | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | oh, I'll double-check | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | mm, let's get back to "ironic" fate in the discussion section | 17:19 |
| rloo | so wrt Policy-in-code (L296). I just updated it a bit. but i think it is finished, yes? | 17:21 |
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| dtantsur | seems so | 17:21 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal: we're ready for the tempest plugin switch, yeah? | 17:21 |
| rloo | so we can delete that task too | 17:21 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: I think so. They only thing that would hold it up is the stable branches. | 17:21 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: I kind of think we might want to wait until we have stable branches transitioned over. | 17:22 |
| jlvillal | What do you think? | 17:22 |
| dtantsur | yeah, maybe we should wait until after the Forum to let the zuul v3 transition settle down | 17:22 |
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| jlvillal | The stable branches use the same tempest as master. | 17:22 |
| rloo | yes, wait for zuul v3 transition | 17:22 |
| TheJulia | That does kind of sound like a good idea | 17:22 |
| rloo | which reminds me -- i'd like to see volunteers to work on the zuulv3 migrations | 17:23 |
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| rloo | pas-ha has an etherpad up. names for each of the projects would be good | 17:23 |
| * dtantsur assigns milan as he is slacking off today | 17:23 | |
| rloo | etherpad tracking zuulv3 work: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-zuulv3-intree-tracking | 17:23 |
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| TheJulia | I can try taking the bifrost jobs on, although I'm not sure I'll be able to get to it this week. | 17:24 |
| dtantsur | I can take sushy | 17:24 |
| dtantsur | I can also try ironic-lib, if nobody wants. but it is blocked on IPA, I suspect | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | vdrok: you may want to take ironic-lib too | 17:25 |
| dtantsur | it uses IPA from source, so they're kinda related | 17:25 |
| * dtantsur suspects pas-ha will do ironic-staging-drivers | 17:26 | |
| dtantsur | anyway, folks, are you done with statuses? we can continue assign names async | 17:27 |
| * rloo done with statuses | 17:27 | |
| TheJulia | I'm ready to move on | 17:28 |
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| jlvillal | +1 | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | #topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week | 17:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Deciding on priorities for the coming week (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:28 | |
| dtantsur | "Switch to none auth" is blocked, so let's kick it out? | 17:28 |
| rloo | +1 soft kick | 17:29 |
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| rloo | is nova feature spec freeze over? i didn't see any recent reviews from them for the migrate/resize spec | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | rloo: no idea, but should be | 17:30 |
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| dtantsur | I could not gran anyone to review it.. | 17:30 |
| * rloo sad | 17:30 | |
| dtantsur | s/gran/grab/ | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | folks, can we add the ref arch bit please? it's been without reviews for... time | 17:31 |
| rloo | dtantsur: sure | 17:31 |
| TheJulia | +1 | 17:31 |
| dtantsur | I'm keeping the RESIZE spec, will sync with Matt on their freeze status | 17:31 |
| rloo | dtantsur: oh, if we're planning an ironic release, did you get a chance to see if any HIGH bug fixes should be reviewed? | 17:31 |
| dtantsur | rloo: not yet | 17:32 |
| rloo | dtantsur: i just did a quick look, don't see anything close to ready. but that doesn't mean there isn't something we really want fixed soon (but i suspect there aren't any) | 17:32 |
| dtantsur | at least nothing on my radar | 17:32 |
| dtantsur | we should finish up your rolling upgrades series though | 17:33 |
| rloo | dtantsur: yup, we shouldn't release w/o that dbsync change | 17:33 |
| dtantsur | yeah, I'm aware of that | 17:33 |
| dtantsur | okay, how is the list looking? | 17:33 |
| dtantsur | also, vendors, do you have anything for this week? I only see a patch from oneview | 17:34 |
| rloo | dtantsur: oh, i guess we should put your 'latest' patch there | 17:34 |
| dtantsur | yep, let's do | 17:34 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: We're all set for now. Thanks for asking :) | 17:34 |
| dtantsur | good! 6 items + oneview + subteams. how is it looking? | 17:35 |
| rloo | +1 | 17:35 |
| dtantsur | rloo made me think whether we should have a similar list for bugs | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | like, pick 2-3 bugs to fix every week | 17:36 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | dtantsur, a good idea i would say | 17:36 |
| Nisha_Agarwal | +1 | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | maybe the next person leading the triage could make a list for us | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | speaking of which, | 17:36 |
| dtantsur | #topic Appointing a bug triaging lead for the coming week | 17:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Appointing a bug triaging lead for the coming week (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:36 | |
| dtantsur | anybody? | 17:36 |
| TheJulia | I doub't I'll touch code this week with summit prep, so I can | 17:37 |
| TheJulia | I'm also not deathly ill this week :) | 17:37 |
| dtantsur | \o/ | 17:37 |
| rloo | (phew) | 17:37 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: let's try to pick a few bugs that don't have a solution yet, and throw them on the priority list for next week | 17:37 |
| dtantsur | not sure whether it will work, but worth trying | 17:38 |
| dtantsur | wdyt? | 17:38 |
| TheJulia | I like it | 17:38 |
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| rloo | oh, 'don't have a solution yet'. you mean, no one is working on it? | 17:38 |
| dtantsur | rloo: well.. I was thinking about it, but we can relax this requirement to just "not fixed yet" | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | but I'm really worried about bugs nobody is working on | 17:39 |
| rloo | our priorities have all been patch reviews | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | the bugs that have a patch will eventually be fixed | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | yes, and I'm suggesting an experiment to change it :) | 17:39 |
| rloo | to change what is included in our priorities? | 17:40 |
| dtantsur | yes | 17:40 |
| jlvillal | I do wonder what disaster Cisco CI had. Sounds like an interesting story... | 17:40 |
| dtantsur | I encourage non-core people to pick such bugs, and I will provide help, if needed | 17:40 |
| rloo | you mean, list 1 or more bugs in that priorities list, that do not have patches submitted for them but that are triaged? | 17:40 |
| dtantsur | rloo: correct | 17:40 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: and then see if anyone assigns/works on it? then what. remove from the list the following week? | 17:41 |
| TheJulia | rloo: I think that is what dtantsur is hoping | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | yes | 17:41 |
| TheJulia | raise visibility a bit more above just saying "go look in launchpad" | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | as to "the following week", I don't know :) I'd like to try and see | 17:41 |
| TheJulia | Which helps drive the human interaction part :) | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | probably not after one week, maybe after two-three weeks of inactivity. or up to the bug triager | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia++++ | 17:42 |
| rloo | ok, you two seem to know what you're planning on doing. maybe i am the only one that wasn't sure :) | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | moar opinions on this? | 17:42 |
| rloo | i would also say that bugs that have patches do NOT get reviews sometimes. | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | this is also true, but we have our priorities list for that | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | we don't put bugs there too often, but it can be changed | 17:43 |
| dtantsur | we just need somebody to pick them - the weekly triager can be The Person | 17:43 |
| rloo | ok, just wanted to point it out. so now you're suggesting that the weekly triager do two new things, right? | 17:43 |
| dtantsur | essentially. not just clean up the list, but pick a few bugs that you think deserve to be fixed asap | 17:44 |
| TheJulia | "Hey everyone, what do you think about this?" | 17:44 |
| rloo | those would be critical or high bugs i would think but anyway | 17:44 |
| TheJulia | We kind of already do it in a sense, in irc at times, but not with the best broadcasting or recording | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | probably, we have enough high bugs | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | yep | 17:44 |
| dtantsur | wow, 15 minutes left only Oo | 17:45 |
| dtantsur | let's move on? | 17:45 |
| TheJulia | Yeah, we really need to move on | 17:45 |
| dtantsur | #topic Old CLI API version (dtantsur): the spec says to change it, should we? | 17:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Old CLI API version (dtantsur): the spec says to change it, should we? (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:45 | |
| dtantsur | this is what rloo asked | 17:45 |
| dtantsur | we're changing the default API version for "openstack baremetal" | 17:45 |
| dtantsur | should we do the same for "ironic", given that it's deprecated? | 17:45 |
| rloo | it was mentioned in the spec and the code now has a warning that it will be changed in the future. | 17:45 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: We came to that consensus with a different context than what the api-sig kind of reached consensus on recently | 17:46 |
| rloo | TheJulia: what do you mean by that? what consensus? | 17:46 |
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| TheJulia | tl;dr That an api user should explicitly make their calls with version awareness. | 17:47 |
| TheJulia | If we do the same for the api client, as in set latest, then we run the risk of exposing breaking changes unintentionally. | 17:48 |
| dtantsur | are you talking about the python library? | 17:48 |
| TheJulia | I am | 17:48 |
| dtantsur | because the spec only touches the CLIs | 17:48 |
| rloo | i thought we were leaving the python API alone, it does whatever it did | 17:49 |
| TheJulia | oh, I thought we also covered the api client | 17:49 |
| TheJulia | okay, nevermind | 17:49 |
| TheJulia | ignore me! | 17:49 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: that's a good topic to discuss, but that's the next step | 17:49 |
| TheJulia | I'm fine with ripping the "ironic" cli out of the spec | 17:49 |
| TheJulia | given we are deprecating it | 17:49 |
| dtantsur | I think the options are 1. remove the warning about the versoin change, 2. change the versoin | 17:49 |
| dtantsur | meh, /me cannot type "version" | 17:49 |
| * TheJulia is for 1 | 17:50 | |
| rloo | am i correct in thinking that TheJulia, dtantsur and I are the only ones that are ready to discuss? if so, i suggest we take it off line. there are other things in the agenda and 10 min left | 17:50 |
| rloo | we three can work it out in irc later | 17:50 |
| TheJulia | ++++ | 17:50 |
| dtantsur | I'm fine with that | 17:50 |
| dtantsur | #topic Mogan (TheJulia): Anyone working with this team? Anyone have visibility into Mogan's wants/needs as they relate to Ironic? | 17:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Mogan (TheJulia): Anyone working with this team? Anyone have visibility into Mogan's wants/needs as they relate to Ironic? (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:50 | |
| * johnthetubaguy is very curious about mogan too | 17:51 | |
| dtantsur | I was not involved in mogan outside of a few ML discussions | 17:51 |
| rloo | there is a mogan session at summit. TheJulia, would you please report back? :) | 17:51 |
| TheJulia | So, as some of you may or may not be aware. Mogan has requested to be entered into governance. Naturally, ironic and nova contributors have varying feelings about mogan, but I think it is time for us to try and improve communication. | 17:51 |
| TheJulia | That being said, Is anyone presently involved with mogan? | 17:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | I know mriedem has links with those folks, if that helps make connections | 17:52 |
| TheJulia | Also, is anyone aware of specific needs they need from us? | 17:52 |
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| dtantsur | ++ | 17:52 |
| rloo | i think the person that proposed the tagging for ironic, is involved with mogan. he hasn't done much on that, so am guessing they don't need for mogan. | 17:52 |
| TheJulia | johnthetubaguy: I think that might be helpful. Is mriedem going to be at the forum? | 17:52 |
| dtantsur | we're aware of how nova is going to consume our stuff (well, we make it happen) | 17:52 |
| jlvillal | Personally I like the idea of another option for people to use Ironic. But no strong feelings on it. | 17:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | TheJulia: I believe he is | 17:52 |
| dtantsur | but I don't know how and whether mogan consumes what we build | 17:53 |
| rloo | yeah, mogan uses our API. if i understand it. | 17:53 |
| rloo | best to find out at forum, ask for more info from them. | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | yeah, ironic is one of their drivers | 17:53 |
| TheJulia | Okay, I'll ping him, and report back after the forum, and hopefully be able to give us a better understanding/context. | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | but I mean, things like BIOS, deploy templates, traits - are they going to consume all this? do they like our design? | 17:53 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: exactly | 17:54 |
| dtantsur | thanks TheJulia, I really hope we'll know more on the Forum | 17:54 |
| rloo | dtantsur: who wouldn't love our design? :) | 17:54 |
| * dtantsur is sorry for not going, but.. $LIFE_HAPPENS | 17:54 | |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: plus, as soon as we have any concept of hardware ownership, we need to consider mutlitenecy... | 17:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | the cut and paste a lot from Nova to kick start mogan, so its very similar right now: https://github.com/openstack/mogan/blob/master/mogan/baremetal/ironic/driver.py | 17:54 |
| TheJulia | Anyway, Thanks everyone! | 17:54 |
| rloo | i suspect/hope that if ironic wasn't going in the 'right' direction, mogan would let us know | 17:54 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: life, indeed, does happen :) | 17:55 |
| dtantsur | rloo: I hope that too, but I want to make sure nothing prevents them | 17:55 |
| dtantsur | moving on? | 17:55 |
| TheJulia | what dtantsur said | 17:55 |
| TheJulia | yes | 17:55 |
| dtantsur | #topic RFE review | 17:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFE review (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:55 | |
| TheJulia | 5 Minute warning | 17:55 |
| dtantsur | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1725211 introduce "inspect wait" provision state | 17:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1725211 in Ironic Inspector "[RFE] introduce "inspect wait" provision state" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 17:55 |
| dtantsur | this is short | 17:55 |
| dtantsur | I'm not even sure why we don't have "inspect wait" | 17:55 |
| dtantsur | but it was raised on the inspector call that we may need it | 17:55 |
| TheJulia | All for this rfe | 17:56 |
| dtantsur | my usual concern is whether we should do microversion magic to hide this state.. | 17:56 |
| rloo | it makes sense. i guess the question is do we approve now, or ask for a spec? | 17:56 |
| rloo | what did we do with enroll? | 17:56 |
| dtantsur | I don't care about as spec as long as my question is answered | 17:56 |
| rloo | microversion magic is my guess | 17:56 |
| dtantsur | rloo: with "available" rather | 17:56 |
| dtantsur | None <-> available | 17:56 |
| rloo | let me think about it... will get back to the spec later today. | 17:57 |
| rloo | i mean the rfe :) | 17:57 |
| dtantsur | thanks! if in doubt, we can ask for a spec | 17:57 |
| rloo | dtantsur: will do | 17:57 |
| rloo | oh, two more items in agenda, 3 min left... | 17:57 |
| dtantsur | #topic Open discussion | 17:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:57 | |
| dtantsur | #link https://review.openstack.org/458867 significant update to our user guide | 17:58 |
| dtantsur | #info Rolling upgrade feature (namnh): 1. dev-patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419439/ (reviewing) 2. Request "support-rolling-upgrade" tag (not yet) | 17:58 |
| dtantsur | not sure I understand the last item, but I carefully copy-pasted it from agenda :) | 17:58 |
| rloo | i started reviewing the user guide patch, there's a lot of good stuff there, would be good for people that are familiar with the details/steps of ironic provisioning, to look at that. cuz i don't want to look at code to compare if it is accurate :) | 17:59 |
| namnh | I mean, we need a patch set to get "rolling-upgrade" tag from TC | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | namnh: ah, right! | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | rloo: you may have the honor of proposing the tag :) just please double-check the requirements | 17:59 |
| TheJulia | One minute warning | 17:59 |
| rloo | dtantsur: i don't think the #1 patch is needed in order to get the tag. that is developer doc. | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | I don't think either | 17:59 |
| rloo | dtantsur: ok, i'll put in on my plate. thx namnh for remindind us! | 18:00 |
| namnh | sure, thanks | 18:00 |
| dtantsur | yeah, thanks namnh for reminder and vdrok for the docs patch | 18:00 |
| dtantsur | and thanks all for the meeting! | 18:00 |
| dtantsur | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 23 18:00:22 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-10-23-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-10-23-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-10-23-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
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| ildikov | #startmeeting openstack_upstream_institute | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 23 20:00:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ildikov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack_upstream_institute)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_upstream_institute' | 20:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 20:00 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: hi :) | 20:01 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: will you come to Sydney? | 20:03 |
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| mlavalle | ildikov: yes, I'll see you there | 20:03 |
| spotz | \o/ | 20:03 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: coming to the training too? | 20:03 |
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| mlavalle | ildikov: nope, personal issue. I'll get there Sunday at 7:45 am | 20:04 |
| mlavalle | are we having a session on Sunday? | 20:04 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: hmm, if you would be awake in the afternoon there are a few people interested in Networking | 20:04 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: yep, we have a full day on Sunday | 20:05 |
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| mlavalle | ildikov: ok, I'll do my best to be there. in fact, I want to stay up that day, so I get used to the time zone as soon as possible | 20:05 |
| mlavalle | I might take a nap and there head to the training | 20:05 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: that would work out well as we have the deep dive discussions in the afternoon usually | 20:06 |
| mlavalle | \cool | 20:06 |
| ildikov | before that it's more general stuff and tools | 20:06 |
| ildikov | ok, let's pretend we're having a meeting here :) | 20:06 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 20:06 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: big thanks of course! :) | 20:07 |
| ildikov | #topic Announcements | 20:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: openstack_upstream_institute)" | 20:07 | |
| ildikov | so we had a training in Copenhagen last week | 20:07 |
| ildikov | it went well, was a one day long version | 20:07 |
| ildikov | we finished at the part of setting up the VM image | 20:07 |
| ildikov | which works now BTW | 20:08 |
| ildikov | we removed some optimization parts and now the image is up and running | 20:08 |
| ildikov | we got good feedback from the attendees | 20:08 |
| ildikov | so I hope a few of them sticks around | 20:08 |
| spotz | cool | 20:08 |
| ildikov | looking into the future Sydney is now at the door! | 20:09 |
| mlavalle | ildikov: do we have an uptated version of the VM this time around? | 20:09 |
| ildikov | I so con't believe it's next weekend... | 20:09 |
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| ildikov | mlavalle: I believe it should have all the latest Devstack in it | 20:09 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: but will double check it with kmARC before the training | 20:10 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 20:10 |
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| ildikov | currently we have 24 people signed up | 20:11 |
| kmARC | Yes we have (sorry, just landed, on the phone) over the week I'll send you the link. | 20:11 |
| spotz | Yeah I'm in panic mode, I did get some Aussie cash in the mail today though:) | 20:11 |
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| ildikov | kmARC: no worries, I didn't want to rush you :) | 20:11 |
| ildikov | spotz: nice :) | 20:11 |
| ildikov | so I will send out the usual mails to the attendees soon | 20:12 |
| ildikov | and we might get an additional group of people, but it's not confirmed yet | 20:12 |
| ildikov | #topic Prep for Sydney | 20:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Prep for Sydney (Meeting topic: openstack_upstream_institute)" | 20:13 | |
| ildikov | which brings me to remind you to double check the material | 20:14 |
| ildikov | mtreinish updated the governance slides a bit | 20:14 |
| mtreinish | just some small changes | 20:14 |
| ildikov | I think jungleboyj still has his homework that he signed up for, don't remember which slide set that was though | 20:14 |
| jungleboyj | Oy! Sorry, missed the start of the meeting. No ping. Let me catch up on scroll back. | 20:15 |
| spotz | I need to go through mine and also double check my git and gerrit stuff | 20:15 |
| mtreinish | I did want to discuss the use of "big tent" on the project list slides | 20:15 |
| mtreinish | that was somethign we're trying to move away because the message is confusing to people | 20:15 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: sorry, will ping next time, I need to update the list... | 20:15 |
| mtreinish | not sure if we have enough time to rework that section before sydney though | 20:16 |
| spotz | Github mailed earlier and the request for shipment is in. I just hope it comes before next Thursday to get packed | 20:16 |
| ildikov | spotz: sounds good | 20:16 |
| ildikov | mtreinish: true | 20:16 |
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| ildikov | mtreinish: I don't think we mention it much though | 20:16 |
| ildikov | mtreinish: do you happen to have bandwidth to clean it up? | 20:17 |
| jungleboyj | My homework is on the OpenStack Status and Zuul section. | 20:17 |
| mtreinish | when I was reviewing that section it was pretty much core and big tent for everything | 20:17 |
| mtreinish | ildikov: I can try, I'll have to brush up on my photo editing stuff, because one was an image | 20:17 |
| jungleboyj | Need to update for the new Zuul and also some improvements to make with the flow. | 20:17 |
| mtreinish | I'm also not sure what to change it to :) | 20:17 |
| jungleboyj | We had notes on what needed to be done somewhere. I need to find those. That is on my plan for tomorrow. | 20:18 |
| ildikov | mtreinish: we can remove the image in case needed rather than have things up which are confusing | 20:18 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: cool, that would've been my bet too | 20:18 |
| ildikov | mtreinish: I guess just OpenStack :) | 20:19 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Good. Otherwise, the rest of the education all looked pretty good last time I ran through it. | 20:19 |
| mtreinish | well I'll see what I can come up with, I've got some downtime in sydney before the summit I'll play around with it | 20:19 |
| kmARC | diablo_rojo diablo_rojo_phon ildikov I had some advices regarding the structure of the material (what present when). I'd like to discuss it via hangouts. Do we have a decision on its timeslot? | 20:20 |
| ildikov | kmARC: meeting invite sent | 20:21 |
| ildikov | kmARC: Wednesday 2100 UTC | 20:21 |
| kmARC | Oh thanks! | 20:21 |
| spotz | ildikov: Now I gotta go translate that | 20:21 |
| ildikov | kmARC: we can play with the order and for Vancouver we will try to switch to use the Contributor Portal plus exercises | 20:21 |
| ildikov | which should give us more structure but still flexibility | 20:22 |
| jungleboyj | spotz: 4 to 5 pm central | 20:22 |
| ildikov | just not enough time to switch to anything like that for Sydney | 20:22 |
| spotz | I didn't get an invite though:( | 20:22 |
| diablo_rojo | ildikov, you don't think we cna just do things in a slightly different order? | 20:22 |
| ildikov | spotz: what's your mail? | 20:22 |
| spotz | amy@demarco.com | 20:22 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Sounds like a plan on reorganizing. | 20:22 |
| ildikov | spotz: hmm, that's what I have in the invite | 20:23 |
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| diablo_rojo | We don't need to change it officially just spread things out a little differently. | 20:23 |
| spotz | ildikov: weird | 20:23 |
| diablo_rojo | Especially since it will all be changed anyway. | 20:23 |
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| spotz | cause it's in spam for some reason | 20:23 |
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| kmARC | ildikov: I didn't get the invite either | 20:24 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo: I said yes and that then we will change the whole thing for Vancouver | 20:24 |
| ildikov | kmARC: check spam it seems | 20:24 |
| ildikov | weird as I'm organizing another meeting too weekly now and they got te invite so far, must be some Monday craziness | 20:24 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo: or are we talking about different things? | 20:25 |
| diablo_rojo | ildikov, oh, misinterpreted the 'just not enough time to switch to anything like that for Sydney' comment. | 20:25 |
| diablo_rojo | My bad | 20:25 |
| kmARC | Hah, it was in spam! | 20:25 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Mine came with no problem. | 20:25 |
| ildikov | I guess different clients handle it differently for some reason :/ | 20:25 |
| kmARC | (im using Google inbox, @spotz maybe too?) | 20:25 |
| jungleboyj | The word is out that ildikov is a spammer. | 20:25 |
| diablo_rojo | ildikov, I was saying we should just reorder the modules a little for when we go through them. | 20:25 |
| kmARC | 😀 | 20:25 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo: ah, ok, yeah, that was for the bigger change :) | 20:26 |
| spotz | kmARC: Yep gmail | 20:26 |
| diablo_rojo | ildikov, got it :) | 20:26 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo: :) | 20:26 |
| * diablo_rojo has sick brain so everything is like three times harder at a minimum- reading and thinking included | 20:26 | |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo: I hear ya! | 20:27 |
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| spotz | I made the mistake of binge watching TV last night:( | 20:29 |
| ildikov | we also have the sign-up sheet here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sydney-os-upstream-institute-module-sign-up | 20:29 |
| diablo_rojo | so kmARC and I had talked about just moving some of the drier stuff to be more mixed into the hands on things. So starting with like the intros and then communication and events and then talking about the contribution process and reg/accts and then going into governance and release cycle and then onto task tracking gerrit, etc | 20:30 |
| ildikov | we have the last two modules without presenter, but I think we can skip the last one as it's a giant overview anyway | 20:30 |
| ildikov | we will see how things go on site | 20:30 |
| diablo_rojo | We can be more forceful about getting everyone to participate too since we have so many mentors and so few registrants | 20:31 |
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| jungleboyj | ildikov: I can take the second to the last one. | 20:31 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: cool | 20:31 |
| diablo_rojo | Just means that no mentors are allowed to sit in the back on their laptops- they need to actually connect with the students and be more involved. | 20:32 |
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| ildikov | diablo_rojo: we can do that, however we will need to distribute the image at the beginning then | 20:32 |
| diablo_rojo | I would maybe do that after events | 20:32 |
| ildikov | not against the idea, just giving a reminder on how distracted people will be | 20:33 |
| diablo_rojo | so that it happens early on but not RIIIGHT away | 20:33 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: That has proved disasterous in the past. | 20:33 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: ++ | 20:33 |
| diablo_rojo | I think if we are more attentive they will pay attention better. | 20:33 |
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| ildikov | in the long term we could try to play with creating teams from the people sitting in one group | 20:34 |
| ildikov | which could give us more room with the ordering of the material as well | 20:34 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah that could work | 20:34 |
| spotz | When we will have a head count, etc? | 20:34 |
| ildikov | as we could somewhat demonstrate things | 20:34 |
| diablo_rojo | spotz, I think reg is around 20 at this point. | 20:34 |
| ildikov | I wouldn't do that for Sydney as we are not set up that way | 20:34 |
| diablo_rojo | ildikov, can get the newest number | 20:34 |
| diablo_rojo | ildikov, agreed | 20:34 |
| ildikov | 24, but no one is confirmed yet and we might get another group which I don't know yet | 20:35 |
| ildikov | so it's more Vancouver timeframe of brainstorming | 20:35 |
| diablo_rojo | The hackathon was cancelled so there might be some people coming to hang out with us from there. | 20:35 |
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| spotz | In Boston a lot of friends grouped together, do we want to sperate folks out? | 20:36 |
| spotz | oh no! That sounded like fun:( | 20:36 |
| diablo_rojo | spotz, I think we still want to have them grouped according to project interest. | 20:36 |
| ildikov | if we have a low number than I wouldn't enforce | 20:36 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo: ++ | 20:36 |
| diablo_rojo | If we can get them to disperse a little and talk to other people within that group it would be nice. | 20:36 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo: +1 | 20:36 |
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| spotz | +1 | 20:37 |
| diablo_rojo | I care more about keeping them involved and interested than forming their company cliques :) | 20:37 |
| ildikov | with reordering of things we need to think about how many things we are referring to in each module that will be clarified later | 20:37 |
| jungleboyj | Hopefully getting more activity in the exercises will help that. | 20:37 |
| ildikov | and how valuable is to go through things without clarifying those | 20:38 |
| diablo_rojo | jungleboyj, agreed | 20:38 |
| ildikov | so if we have a small group of people we can experiment, if it turns out to be a decent-ish group then I would experiment less | 20:38 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: ++ | 20:38 |
| diablo_rojo | I can propose a reorder as a patch or just edit that etherpad | 20:39 |
| spotz | Yeah that's what we do in the lunch and learn, see who's there and if anyone's done pre-reqs and then tailoor to the room | 20:39 |
| diablo_rojo | I have an idea in my head and can explain it too. | 20:39 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo: if you can get it up to Gerrit before the meeting then we can discuss it there | 20:40 |
| spotz | ildikov: diablo_rojo Or discuss at meeting then put up? | 20:40 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo: and point there those who can't attend the meeting, like gmann_afk so they can share opinions too | 20:40 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo: spotz: either works for me | 20:41 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo: spotz: if not Gerrit then on the etherpad would be nice so we start from a common ground | 20:43 |
| spotz | ildikov: Yeah I was thinking the ther first so people could see before it's discussed | 20:43 |
| diablo_rojo | I will work on getting the patch done today/ tomorrow. | 20:43 |
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| ildikov | diablo_rojo: sounds good, thanks | 20:44 |
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| jungleboyj | Think we should be cautious about changing too much this late in the game. | 20:45 |
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| ildikov | jungleboyj: +1 | 20:45 |
| diablo_rojo | jungleboyj, just reordering, not changing content | 20:46 |
| diablo_rojo | and not even reordering all that much. | 20:46 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo: Yes, I see that but there are ordering dependencies there. Will see what the patch looks like. | 20:46 |
| diablo_rojo | jungleboyj, anything specific you want me to be mindful of? | 20:47 |
| jungleboyj | Key things are keep release of the VM image out as long as possible. | 20:47 |
| spotz | hehehe | 20:48 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo: jungleboyj: I think everyone has a point here and I also think it will be easier to sort things out with plans in front of our eyes | 20:49 |
| jungleboyj | Will have to run through the patch otherwise to make sure we don't refer to upcoming content that has already been done and stuff like that. | 20:49 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: ++ | 20:49 |
| jungleboyj | I will reserve judgement. :-) | 20:49 |
| ildikov | :) | 20:49 |
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| diablo_rojo | jungleboyj, much appreciated. | 20:50 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 20:50 |
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| ildikov | I think we can switch to | 20:50 |
| ildikov | #topic Open Discussion | 20:51 |
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| spotz | When where we going to meet up on Saturday? | 20:51 |
| ildikov | with those who'll be around on Saturday we could do a before event gathering like in Boston | 20:52 |
| ildikov | no idea about the area and options as of yet as for me... | 20:52 |
| mlavalle | diablo_rojo: when are you publishing the schedule / rooms for the project on-boarding sessions? | 20:52 |
| ildikov | but if there's interest then we can figure it out | 20:52 |
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| jungleboyj | I will be there all day on Saturday. So, just let me know. | 20:52 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: ok, cool | 20:52 |
| diablo_rojo | mlavalle, the last ones are being posted to day- will send out an email to the dev list when they are all posted. | 20:52 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 20:53 |
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| ildikov | anything else for today? | 20:55 |
| ildikov | I will keep everyone posted with Saturday plans once we have some :) | 20:55 |
| kmARC | Sorry guys, I was running, only on my phone. Now I read it back; with what diablo_rojo says comes I agree fully: I observed on the Nordic days how no one was interested in some of the slides and basically they browsed news sites etc. And then I realized that their first energy boost on "let's learn something fun!" was channeled into the bourocratic stuff. That's why I initiated this convo | 20:55 |
| kmARC | jungleboyj: let me explain it better over our hangouts call | 20:56 |
| jungleboyj | kmARC: Ok. | 20:56 |
| ildikov | kmARC: one more thought to think about here on this | 20:56 |
| ildikov | kmARC: the problem is that we don't know how to engage people for those modules | 20:57 |
| ildikov | kmARC: and re-ordering will not solve that problem | 20:57 |
| spotz | all there Saturday as well, land at 6am | 20:57 |
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| ildikov | spotz: sounds painful :/ | 20:57 |
| spotz | ildikov: I sleep well on plans generally | 20:57 |
| mlavalle | lucky you spotz... not my case | 20:58 |
| spotz | And I thought we were starting aroound noon | 20:58 |
| ildikov | spotz: lucky! | 20:58 |
| jungleboyj | I normally sleep well. Hoping that will again be the case for this trip. | 20:58 |
| kmARC | ildikov: I know I know, I just wanted to raise awareness that currently our presentation feels buorocracy heavy and less tech heavy | 20:58 |
| ildikov | spotz: I think it's 1pm or smth like on the schedule | 20:58 |
| spotz | Oh and if you're interested in the ghost tour let Elise know | 20:59 |
| ildikov | kmARC: it won't fundamentally change, we just need to figure out how to distract people from that feeling | 20:59 |
| ildikov | kmARC: good point though, I noticed that too and it was a problem earlier as well | 21:00 |
| kmARC | You mean distract me too 🙂 | 21:00 |
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| ildikov | ok, slot is over here | 21:00 |
| ildikov | we can move to the channel | 21:00 |
| ildikov | thanks everyone! | 21:00 |
| ildikov | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
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| jungleboyj | Thanks ildikov | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 23 21:00:51 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_upstream_institute/2017/openstack_upstream_institute.2017-10-23-20.00.html | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_upstream_institute/2017/openstack_upstream_institute.2017-10-23-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_upstream_institute/2017/openstack_upstream_institute.2017-10-23-20.00.log.html | 21:00 |
| mlavalle | ildikov: we didn't have to pretend we were having a meeting after all :-) | 21:02 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: so true :) | 21:02 |
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