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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 11 15:02:44 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 15:02 |
| rakhmerov | hi | 15:02 |
| thrash | o/ | 15:02 |
| d0ugal | Hey! | 15:03 |
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| toure | hello | 15:03 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, 4 people ) | 15:03 |
| rakhmerov | not so bad | 15:04 |
| rakhmerov | hi guys | 15:04 |
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| rakhmerov | I wonder for how long we haven't had any meetings | 15:04 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: btw, did you have meetings in the last 2 weeks? | 15:04 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: yup | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | then maybe can you quickly update? | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | mostly myself I guess.. | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | if there was anything important | 15:05 |
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| rakhmerov | I know about some CI problems and bugs that you pointed to last week | 15:06 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: nothing important that I remeber, but I'd have to go and dig up the logs. | 15:06 |
| rakhmerov | ok ) | 15:06 |
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| rakhmerov | I have a couple topics to discuss with you but let's give quick updates maybe | 15:07 |
| rakhmerov | as usually | 15:07 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current status | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current status (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:07 | |
| apetrich | working on a yaql blueprint to add executions to the exported functions | 15:07 |
| rakhmerov | my status: mostly doing reviews after my vacation, still have a few patches to review in my queue | 15:08 |
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| rakhmerov | apetrich: how is that going? | 15:08 |
| apetrich | WIP here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525926 | 15:08 |
| rakhmerov | close? | 15:08 |
| apetrich | rakhmerov, missing the date range filters. Should have that ready for reviewing today | 15:08 |
| apetrich | I want to get that in before we freeze freeze | 15:08 |
| bobh | o/ sorry late | 15:08 |
| rakhmerov | yep | 15:08 |
| rakhmerov | bobh: hi, that's ok ) | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | we just started | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | apetrich: ok, cool | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | very cool | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | bobh: if you have some updates, please share | 15:09 |
| d0ugal | I have been working on tempest failures and the refactor of the mistral context is now starting to pass CI. | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | I'm also planning with my management what to do next since the most critical phase is finally over for us | 15:10 |
| bobh | working on the task on-clause change, need to refine the on-clause spec definition | 15:10 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yep, I think we're close to merge what's needed | 15:10 |
| rakhmerov | bobh: ok | 15:10 |
| d0ugal | One more review needed on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506185/ | 15:10 |
| toure | status: rerun execution still waiting on reviews 506652, 506653 and I have been working on porting ansible actions into mistral-extras | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: btw, when I was reviewing your patches I found myself on the thought that now we assume that our SecurityContext always reflects Keystone stuff | 15:11 |
| thrash | zuul v3 native job definitions are almost complete. | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | whereas, in fact, we can also work with Keycloack | 15:11 |
| d0ugal | toure: it is probably a good idea to remove [WIP] from reviews that are ready, people don't tend to look at them otherwise | 15:11 |
| toure | d0ugal ack just did | 15:12 |
| toure | :) | 15:12 |
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| rakhmerov | d0ugal: I understand it's a big change and not sure if we can adapt it for both but may be you've already thought about it | 15:12 |
| d0ugal | toure: oh, cool. I'll take a look then. | 15:12 |
| toure | I totally spaced on the description | 15:12 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov: review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506185/ | 15:12 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: I did think it was a bit strange, maybe we should have called it "context.keystone"? | 15:12 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: but yeah, changing it now would be super painful. | 15:13 |
| rakhmerov | yep | 15:13 |
| rakhmerov | I know | 15:13 |
| rakhmerov | hm... don't know maybe we could have some very generic base class for security context for now with just one implementation for Keystone | 15:13 |
| d0ugal | True | 15:13 |
| rakhmerov | but I know it's super painful | 15:14 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: I really want to get this work merged, then we can look into refactoring/improving after? | 15:14 |
| rakhmerov | absolutely, yes | 15:14 |
| rakhmerov | I agree | 15:14 |
| rakhmerov | let's merge it and during Q-3 we can potentially make some adjustements | 15:15 |
| rakhmerov | (theoretically) | 15:15 |
| d0ugal | Thanks | 15:15 |
| d0ugal | :) | 15:15 |
| rakhmerov | toure: hey, I thought 506652, 506653 are still WIPs, no? | 15:15 |
| rakhmerov | or they are ready to be reviewed? | 15:15 |
| rakhmerov | if so, I'll do it asap | 15:16 |
| toure | rakhmerov they are ready for review I forgot to push the change for the commit message to remove WUP | 15:16 |
| toure | **WIP | 15:16 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, that explains a lot ;) | 15:16 |
| rakhmerov | please do | 15:16 |
| toure | :) | 15:16 |
| toure | done | 15:16 |
| rakhmerov | very few people will review until you remove WIP ) | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | ok, good | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | thrash: question to you. You said "zuul v3 native job definitions are almost complete" | 15:17 |
| thrash | rakhmerov: yes. | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | so what exactly are you working on there? | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | sorry, I'm just not in the loop honestly | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | been away for a while | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | or maybe you can point to something so that I could learn | 15:18 |
| d0ugal | https://review.openstack.org/509428 | 15:18 |
| thrash | rakhmerov: the "legacy" jobs, which is what we have now, use a lot of shell, and don't take advantage of the zuul v3 stuff... Like being able to inherit from other jobs. | 15:18 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, legacy jobs | 15:18 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:18 |
| rakhmerov | I'm asking because, for some reason, I thought it was all done already | 15:19 |
| thrash | moving the job definitions into the repo was the first step. This gets rid of the legacy stuff, and uses far less boilerplate. | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | a while ago | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | ok, I see | 15:19 |
| thrash | that was just the move into the repo. This is to make them better. :D | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | so this is supposed to the the final step towards the full migration, right? | 15:19 |
| thrash | Yes | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | good | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | thanks | 15:19 |
| thrash | rakhmerov: for reference... https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/zuulv3.html#legacy-job-migration-details | 15:20 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:20 |
| rakhmerov | thank you | 15:20 |
| rakhmerov | then let's move on | 15:20 |
| rakhmerov | I'd like to discuss the following topic | 15:20 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Do we need weekly meetings now? | 15:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Do we need weekly meetings now? (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:21 | |
| rakhmerov | :) | 15:21 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-12-04-15.00.log.html#l-76 | 15:21 |
| d0ugal | From last week :) see the 4th last line. | 15:21 |
| rakhmerov | the reason I'd like to discuss it is because 1) I know some of the teams don't have these meetings anymore 2) in the last few months we skipped a lot of them | 15:21 |
| rakhmerov | aah | 15:22 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: what are these "office hours" exactly? | 15:22 |
| rakhmerov | not sure I fully understand | 15:22 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: I'm not sure exactly. But I think we just advertise somewhere when we are normally available in #openstack-mistral and encourage people to come and speak to us then | 15:23 |
| d0ugal | so instead of telling them to come to the meeting | 15:23 |
| d0ugal | For example this is how the TC does it: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/#office-hours | 15:23 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:23 |
| rakhmerov | let me see.. | 15:23 |
| bobh | keystone does as well I believe | 15:23 |
| d0ugal | yup | 15:23 |
| rakhmerov | yeah, I've seen that for keystone a lot | 15:23 |
| rakhmerov | hah, interesting.. | 15:24 |
| rakhmerov | that looks good to me | 15:24 |
| d0ugal | I'm not sure which days/times we pick. | 15:24 |
| d0ugal | but I guess we can work that out with a poll or something | 15:25 |
| rakhmerov | I just thought that maybe we need some known time windows when we could overlap ourselves, team members I think | 15:25 |
| rakhmerov | to sync up and discuss relevant topics | 15:25 |
| d0ugal | Right, I think we can use the office hours for that. | 15:25 |
| rakhmerov | why does it have to be "#openstack-tc"? | 15:26 |
| rakhmerov | can it be just our channel? | 15:26 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: It doesn't - that is just where the TC have their office :) | 15:26 |
| d0ugal | it should be our own channel | 15:26 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:26 |
| rakhmerov | yep | 15:26 |
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| rakhmerov | and I'm just concerned with 1 hour duration | 15:27 |
| rakhmerov | I don't understand why it's just 1 hour | 15:27 |
| rakhmerov | but I guess it's up to us, right? | 15:27 |
| d0ugal | We can make it longer | 15:27 |
| rakhmerov | yes, ok | 15:27 |
| d0ugal | I don't think it is a gurantee, it just means "we will normall be around during there times" | 15:27 |
| d0ugal | or, that is how I read it | 15:27 |
| rakhmerov | I see | 15:27 |
| d0ugal | I guess the TC is a bit different, because I assume they are usually busy doing other things | 15:28 |
| rakhmerov | well, sounds good to me. In addition, I'd like to have a clear picture of when we could talk ourselves | 15:28 |
| rakhmerov | somehow | 15:28 |
| rakhmerov | it's pretty easy for folks whose time zones are close | 15:28 |
| rakhmerov | like me, d0ugal and apetrich | 15:28 |
| rakhmerov | but harder with North America, for example | 15:28 |
| apetrich | :) | 15:28 |
| d0ugal | aye | 15:29 |
| rakhmerov | so office hours is mostly for non team members to talk to team members? | 15:29 |
| d0ugal | I guess we can propose a number of different blocks and add/remove/change them over time. | 15:29 |
| rakhmerov | or they can also be used as a replacement for this kind of meetings? | 15:29 |
| d0ugal | I think office hours is for anyone that wants to talk, within the team or anyone else. | 15:29 |
| d0ugal | but I'm not sure. | 15:30 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:30 |
| d0ugal | I think they are just the same as meetings, but without any structure and if there is nothing to talk about nothing happens | 15:30 |
| rakhmerov | I see | 15:30 |
| d0ugal | so, yes, I don't think we would need the meeting | 15:30 |
| rakhmerov | so are there objections from anyone else? | 15:31 |
| rakhmerov | I also think we don't need these regular meetings | 15:31 |
| rakhmerov | pretty often they are almost empty (very few people) | 15:31 |
| rakhmerov | I believe we need some flexibility here | 15:31 |
| rakhmerov | bobh, toure, apetrich, thrash? | 15:32 |
| toure | +1 | 15:32 |
| thrash | +1 | 15:32 |
| apetrich | +1 | 15:32 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:32 |
| rakhmerov | then I can learn more about this "office hours" concept and try to apply to us | 15:32 |
| rakhmerov | I guess we can communicate time slots over ML and/or some voting system | 15:33 |
| d0ugal | Sounds good. | 15:33 |
| toure | sounds good | 15:33 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:33 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov: learn about "office hours" and propose time slots | 15:34 |
| rakhmerov | the other topic I wanted to discuss was already explained (ongoing CI work) | 15:34 |
| rakhmerov | so I don't have much else | 15:35 |
| rakhmerov | I'm planning to do some house keeping in launchpad this week and update statuses of the most important tickets | 15:35 |
| bobh | +1 | 15:35 |
| rakhmerov | and pay attention to things that require it | 15:36 |
| rakhmerov | bobh: like event notifications (mostly finished my review but was distracted today) | 15:36 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 15:36 |
| rakhmerov | anything else guys? | 15:36 |
| bobh | :-) | 15:36 |
| rakhmerov | one more thing, I know it's pretty early but please try to plan your participation in the PTG | 15:37 |
| bobh | trying :-) | 15:37 |
| rakhmerov | I already said "yes" to the question "Is Mistral team going to be at the PTG?" | 15:37 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 15:37 |
| d0ugal | great | 15:38 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:38 |
| rakhmerov | so ending the meeting? | 15:38 |
| d0ugal | Nothing else from me | 15:39 |
| rakhmerov | and I'd like to ask you very much: please go over all of your patches once in a while and make sure to address comments | 15:39 |
| rakhmerov | and update their statuses | 15:39 |
| rakhmerov | make them visible please | 15:39 |
| rakhmerov | it helps a lot | 15:39 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, thanks to everyone! | 15:40 |
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| rakhmerov | have a good week ) | 15:40 |
| rakhmerov | bye | 15:40 |
| d0ugal | Thanks! | 15:40 |
| toure | have a good one | 15:40 |
| bobh | bye | 15:40 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 15:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 11 16:00:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ijw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
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| ijw | It's that time again | 16:00 |
| ijw | or maybe it isn't, depending on whether anyone is around. | 16:00 |
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