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tobberydberg | o/ | 14:01 |
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mrhillsman | o/ | 14:02 |
aprice | o/ | 14:02 |
pilgrimstack | o/ | 14:02 |
tobberydberg | #startmeeting publiccloud-wg | 14:04 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 14 14:04:48 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tobberydberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:04 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:04 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg' | 14:04 |
tobberydberg | Hope you all are well! | 14:05 |
astellwag | o/ | 14:05 |
tobberydberg | Nice to see you all here | 14:05 |
tobberydberg | Agenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg | 14:05 |
tobberydberg | Think about this weeks agenda as very open, feel free to add things | 14:06 |
tobberydberg | And please add you name there | 14:06 |
tobberydberg | I assume Howard will join in soon here as well, but lets get started | 14:07 |
tobberydberg | #topic 1. Planning of PTG agenda | 14:07 |
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tobberydberg | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg-ptg-rocky | 14:07 |
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tobberydberg | When it comes to that planning, it looks like we are doing "mornings" only for official schedule ... howard has a lot of conflicting duties during afternoons | 14:08 |
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tobberydberg | We have been waiting to set that as a final for people to signup for interest and check how their schedule looks like | 14:09 |
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tobberydberg | What about you that wont be in Dublin, can you join remotely? | 14:10 |
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astellwag | I'll be able to join remotely | 14:11 |
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tobberydberg | If so, please put your name there as well, so we can take that into consideration | 14:11 |
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tobberydberg | You are welcome and add suggestions of topics as well | 14:12 |
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tobberydberg | Lunch presentation | 14:15 |
tobberydberg | Just added that to the PTG planning | 14:15 |
tobberydberg | We will most probably get the opportunity to say a few words about the group, so feel free to suggest things worth mention | 14:16 |
tobberydberg | Thoughts, suggestions etc?? | 14:16 |
tobberydberg | Moving on slowly here and we can get back to that | 14:17 |
tobberydberg | #topic 2. Recap feedback sent to foundation | 14:17 |
*** openstack changes topic to "2. Recap feedback sent to foundation (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:17 | |
mrhillsman | Is this a lightning talk? | 14:17 |
mrhillsman | Ok | 14:18 |
tobberydberg | The lunch thing is not really a lightning - but kind of .... just one or two quick slides basically | 14:18 |
aprice | I would like to put time on the PTG agenda to discuss the feedback sent to the Foundation | 14:19 |
aprice | we have a few folks attending that would like to join and I think that it would be a good place to go through the list tobberrydberg sent last week | 14:19 |
tobberydberg | For sure. Suitable under the Passport topic? | 14:19 |
aprice | yeah I think that works | 14:20 |
aprice | I think that there are 5 folks from our side that are interested in attending. | 14:20 |
tobberydberg | Perfect! Please add the names there, or inform them about that page | 14:20 |
aprice | i can add their names to the etherpad | 14:20 |
aprice | yep! | 14:20 |
tobberydberg | awesome | 14:21 |
aprice | thank you for sending that over! | 14:21 |
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tobberydberg | you are welcome! | 14:21 |
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tobberydberg | That was basically what this tpoic was about, checking the status of that feedback | 14:22 |
tobberydberg | Now we know we will get response at the PTG | 14:22 |
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tobberydberg | #topic 3. Other topics | 14:23 |
*** openstack changes topic to "3. Other topics (Meeting topic: publiccloud-wg)" | 14:23 | |
tobberydberg | pilgrimstack - your topic: Changing the time slot for this bi-weekly meeting | 14:23 |
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tobberydberg | I know pilgrimstack often has conflicting meeting at this time | 14:26 |
pilgrimstack | Yep that's the case every week in fact | 14:26 |
pilgrimstack | I'm trying to manage 2 meeting right now | 14:27 |
pilgrimstack | :) | 14:27 |
tobberydberg | Do you have a suggestion for a time? Or, should we setup a doodle and vote until next meeting? | 14:27 |
pilgrimstack | it's ok for me 30 min later in fact | 14:28 |
pilgrimstack | in 2 min | 14:28 |
pilgrimstack | or later, I'm free the rest of the day | 14:29 |
tobberydberg | Hehe, ok. The general meeting rooms are booked by the hour, so as long as we don't have a meetbot in our channel we will have to find a free slot | 14:29 |
aprice | I think a doodle would be a good idea so we could see if a time change opens it up for other folks | 14:30 |
tobberydberg | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535318/ | 14:30 |
tobberydberg | That is my commit for meetbot ... haven't been reviewed yet, will ping the soon to see if I'm missing something | 14:31 |
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tobberydberg | Ok, I agree ... doodle is the best | 14:31 |
tobberydberg | What about weekly meeting instead of bi-weekly? | 14:32 |
astellwag | that would open up for a chance to alternate time slots | 14:32 |
tobberydberg | yes, for sure .... would make it much easier | 14:33 |
zhipeng | hi guys | 14:34 |
zhipeng | sorry for running late | 14:34 |
jamesmca_ | are there is enough content to warrant weekly meetings? | 14:34 |
jamesmca_ | sorry - is there enough content to warrant weekly meetings | 14:35 |
pilgrimstack | not sure for a weekly meeting | 14:35 |
pilgrimstack | bi-weekly on my side seems ok | 14:35 |
zhipeng | i think if we are gonna extend to APAC this year | 14:36 |
zhipeng | a tick-tock weekly meeting is definitely needed | 14:36 |
tobberydberg | I would like to spend some more time on a more weekly basis with the projects we have ... getting more traction of those, so seeking weekly commitment ?) | 14:38 |
zhipeng | +1 | 14:38 |
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tobberydberg | But, with better communication in our channel, what might be good enough? | 14:39 |
tobberydberg | As you say zhipeng ... to get apac more onboard I believe we need another meeting on even weeks that is better suited for them time wise | 14:40 |
zhipeng | yes | 14:40 |
zhipeng | which could happen on #openstack-publiccloud | 14:40 |
tobberydberg | But, on the other hand...are we enough engaged people to manage that? | 14:41 |
tobberydberg | for sure, more like an "inofficial" meeting ? | 14:41 |
persia | Based on my estimates of the timezones of the folks that tend to attend this meeting, I suspect it would be possible to sustain something around 9:00 UTC, which is early enough that many APAC people can make it. Earlier than that might be thin. | 14:42 |
tobberydberg | #action tobberydberg to setup a doodle for meeting time suggestions | 14:43 |
tobberydberg | Yes persia ... harder for US people | 14:43 |
jamesmca_ | I'm not sure making it an unofficial meeting is going to work for APAC folks. IMO, if you're trying to get them on board, should be an official meeting. | 14:43 |
persia | tobberydberg: Americas/APAC overlap is about 23:00 UTC, which might be hard for you :) | 14:43 |
zhipeng | tobberydberg I could definitely help with the APAC friendly meetings | 14:44 |
tobberydberg | That can be hard for a fresh mind, yes =) | 14:44 |
mrhillsman | ++ jamesmca_ sentiment | 14:44 |
tobberydberg | I setup a doodle with some suggestions, please add your suggestions to the etherpad!! | 14:45 |
tobberydberg | agree jamesmca_ ... I also believe an official meeting is for the best | 14:45 |
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tobberydberg | I started and added current time slot just for the heck of it | 14:46 |
zhipeng | tobberydberg I'm not sure if you guys have covered these items: (1) we need to send out an official PTG agenda and (2) Thierry's email on post-lunch talk | 14:47 |
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tobberydberg | Talked some about it | 14:48 |
tobberydberg | Added "Lunch presentation" as the Thierry email topic | 14:48 |
tobberydberg | (to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg-ptg-rocky )¨ | 14:48 |
tobberydberg | Agree, we need to specify times for the different topics. I ealier said that "mornings" will be dedicated PCWG since you are busy afternoons | 14:49 |
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zhipeng | Per item (2) I think we could provide 2 slides | 14:50 |
zhipeng | what we have covered on Mon (since it will be already lunch) | 14:51 |
zhipeng | and what we will cover on Tuesday | 14:51 |
tobberydberg | Sounds like a plan | 14:51 |
tobberydberg | We create that offline? You zhipeng create a start in a google doc and I and everyone that would like to help out join in? | 14:53 |
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zhipeng | tobberydberg no problem | 14:54 |
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tobberydberg | Thanks zhipeng | 14:54 |
tobberydberg | #action zhipeng created draft of PTG lunch presentation | 14:54 |
zhipeng | but we need to settle down on the schedule first, then we know what is the outline of the slide :P | 14:54 |
tobberydberg | Yes | 14:55 |
tobberydberg | Tomorrow? | 14:55 |
tobberydberg | chat in publuiccloud at say, 0800 UTC? | 14:55 |
tobberydberg | 5 minutes left .... other topics? | 14:55 |
tobberydberg | Thoughts? | 14:56 |
zhipeng | tobberydberg Chinese new year tmr, so won't be able to make it | 14:56 |
zhipeng | but maybe later I could do around the same time as today | 14:56 |
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tobberydberg | ok. I have a meeting around that time, but ping me when you are online and we give it a try | 14:57 |
tobberydberg | Anything else folks? | 14:57 |
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pilgrimstack | Alison is still here ? | 14:58 |
pilgrimstack | Allison | 14:58 |
zhipeng | sure no problem :) | 14:58 |
aprice | yep | 14:58 |
pilgrimstack | We identify some improvment we could do on the openstack.org web site | 14:59 |
pilgrimstack | maybe it's already managed, I don't know as I partially here sorry | 14:59 |
tobberydberg | Regarding the PP pilgrimstack? | 14:59 |
pilgrimstack | for example : | 15:00 |
tobberydberg | I did include your feedback there as well | 15:00 |
pilgrimstack | https://www.openstack.org/software/start/ doesn't link back to passport | 15:00 |
pilgrimstack | yes | 15:00 |
tobberydberg | Exactly ++ | 15:00 |
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tobberydberg | We are ut of time, but make sure to join that session remotely at the PTG | 15:00 |
aprice | yep - we are meeting internally this week to review the feedback that tobberydberg sent over and planning to discuss in person at the PTG | 15:00 |
tobberydberg | Thanks for today folks and Happy Valentines Day! ;-) | 15:00 |
pilgrimstack | google "try openstack" should show the passport program page, what can we do for that ? | 15:01 |
pilgrimstack | ok, it's managed, good ;) | 15:01 |
tobberydberg | Feel free to contineu the discussoin in #openstacl-publiccloud | 15:01 |
tobberydberg | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
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jamesmca_ | pilgrimstack we will work on some SEO strategy around the passport program | 15:01 |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 14 15:01:34 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2018/publiccloud_wg.2018-02-14-14.04.html | 15:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2018/publiccloud_wg.2018-02-14-14.04.txt | 15:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2018/publiccloud_wg.2018-02-14-14.04.log.html | 15:01 |
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witek | #startmeeting monasca | 15:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 14 15:02:03 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:02 |
pilgrimstack | ok good to know | 15:02 |
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witek | hello everyone | 15:02 |
amofakhar | Hello | 15:02 |
sgrasley1 | Hello | 15:02 |
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kjansson | hello | 15:02 |
aadams | o/ | 15:02 |
haruki | hello | 15:02 |
jamesgu | Hello | 15:02 |
cbellucci | hello | 15:02 |
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witek | nice attendance today | 15:02 |
witek | aadams: can we start with your change? | 15:03 |
aadams | sure | 15:03 |
witek | #topic reject old metrics | 15:03 |
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witek | so there was some discussion in review if we should reject at all | 15:04 |
witek | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543054 | 15:04 |
aadams | yes | 15:04 |
aadams | I think we should reject | 15:04 |
witek | does threshold engine has problems with handling measurements out of sync? | 15:04 |
aadams | yes | 15:05 |
aadams | it evaluates alarms based on timestamps | 15:05 |
amofakhar | why not rejecting those in threshold engine? | 15:05 |
aadams | and if you are receiving metics with wrong timestamps then alarms will be bad too | 15:05 |
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aadams | that is certainly an option, but in the past we have done it in the api | 15:05 |
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witek | seems indeed like it could be improved in threshold engine | 15:06 |
aadams | are there any other questions? | 15:06 |
amofakhar | because if it be done in api then we will lose some data which can be useful for other parts | 15:06 |
witek | but that is definitely more effort | 15:06 |
amofakhar | and also it makes the api slower | 15:06 |
aadams | how does it make the api slower? | 15:07 |
nseyvet_ | How does an old timestamp for a metric generate an alarm? | 15:07 |
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nseyvet_ | Does not the threshold engine use some time window and rejects events outside of that? | 15:08 |
aadams | if a timestamp should be for now but there is an ntp problem, alarms might flip or evaluate wrong | 15:08 |
nseyvet_ | I dont understand | 15:08 |
aadams | the main issue here is timestamps that are wrong | 15:08 |
nseyvet_ | no they are correct | 15:08 |
nseyvet_ | from the agent perspective they are fine | 15:09 |
amofakhar | and in a case if metrics pass the evaluation and come into the queue but threshold is stopped for a reason and it be started again then it will have the same problem as before | 15:09 |
aadams | sure | 15:09 |
nseyvet_ | there might be network congestion | 15:09 |
nseyvet_ | or those metrics are generated in the future on purpose by a prediction engine for example | 15:09 |
nseyvet_ | so the timestamp is fine | 15:09 |
aadams | my isue is when they are not fine | 15:09 |
nseyvet_ | I dont understand why this timestamp troubles the engine? | 15:09 |
aadams | and there is an ntp problem | 15:09 |
aadams | because alarms are evaluated based on timestamps | 15:10 |
nseyvet_ | but how do u know if it is NTP or network pb? | 15:10 |
aadams | exactly | 15:10 |
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aadams | I don't know about your use cases, but furure metrics points to an ntp problem | 15:10 |
nseyvet_ | if alarms are based on timestamps I dont see the pb | 15:10 |
nseyvet_ | no | 15:10 |
nseyvet_ | I predict 10 min ahead a metric | 15:11 |
nseyvet_ | I push it into Monasca API | 15:11 |
nseyvet_ | perfectly legit use case | 15:11 |
aadams | well then, i suppose this patch should not be turned on for you | 15:11 |
nseyvet_ | I still dont understand the pb w timestamps and alarms? | 15:11 |
aadams | In my use case, I do not chage the metric created at timestamp | 15:11 |
nseyvet_ | I dont see much point for this patch at atll IMO | 15:11 |
aadams | and do not expect furure timestamps | 15:11 |
nseyvet_ | because of what? | 15:12 |
aadams | i do not expect future timestamps because i dont create metrics in the future | 15:12 |
aadams | a future timestamp to me is an ntp problem | 15:12 |
aadams | the good news is that if you are expecting furure timestamps, the default behaviour does not change with this patch | 15:13 |
aadams | so you will not be effected | 15:13 |
nseyvet_ | There is a large misunderstand here. If the pb is in the threshold engine it should be fixed there. At this point I dont understand the pb. And assuming time is off due to NTP is plain wrong | 15:13 |
kjansson | won't this also obfuscate a NTP or similar problems at the agent side? the story says we should make these problems visible and debuggable? | 15:13 |
witek | I think the key question at the moment is to understand why wrong (out of sync) timestamps are causing problems in threshold | 15:14 |
nseyvet_ | Also, I am wondering when the agent receives a 422, does it re-transmit? | 15:14 |
nseyvet_ | or queue? | 15:14 |
aadams | what would you rather throw? | 15:15 |
nseyvet_ | nothing since it is fine IMO | 15:15 |
aadams | hmm | 15:15 |
nseyvet_ | question 1: what is this solving? | 15:15 |
aadams | metrics with furure timestamps are invalid in my usecase | 15:15 |
aadams | i should be able to configure the api to agree with that | 15:16 |
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aadams | i understand, in your use case they are valid, so dont configure it to be on | 15:16 |
nseyvet_ | Should I expand that to assume I may want to reject any metrics that have negative values? | 15:16 |
nseyvet_ | It sounds to me like a filter function | 15:17 |
aadams | it is not | 15:17 |
aadams | it rejects only invalid metrics as the user defines them | 15:17 |
nseyvet_ | it filter metrics based on timestamp | 15:17 |
aadams | ok | 15:18 |
nseyvet_ | invalid is in your situation a timestamp in the future or in the past by 2 weeks. yes? | 15:18 |
aadams | yes | 15:18 |
nseyvet_ | so the pb to solve is how to define "invalid" for a general use case and add it as a general functionality in API IMO | 15:20 |
nseyvet_ | It sounds like a filter | 15:20 |
aadams | ok | 15:20 |
nseyvet_ | so I may want to filter on negative values for example | 15:20 |
nseyvet_ | or NaN | 15:20 |
nseyvet_ | or etc | 15:20 |
aadams | ok | 15:20 |
nseyvet_ | or timestamp being old | 15:20 |
aadams | whats your point | 15:20 |
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nseyvet_ | I dont think the API is the proper location for that function | 15:21 |
aadams | thats valid, i didn't add gereneral filering though\ | 15:21 |
aadams | I wouldnt put general filtering there either | 15:21 |
kjansson | but specific filtering? and if some other use case requires another specific filter? | 15:23 |
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aadams | well i suppose the conversaition should be what is a filter and what is simple invalid then? | 15:23 |
aadams | because I am hearing two very different points of view here | 15:24 |
witek | aadams: what behaviour do you have now with old metrics being sent? | 15:25 |
witek | in thresh | 15:25 |
aadams | old alarms aren't as problematic to me as future alarms, because caching is expected, but a two week old metric that is only 2 weeks old because of an NTP problem is bad for my system | 15:26 |
witek | and for future measurements? | 15:27 |
aadams | again, alarms won't be evaluated correctly, and the NTP problem is hidden | 15:27 |
nseyvet_ | Let me see if I understand, a timestamp 2 weeks in the past is an NTP problem? | 15:28 |
witek | because thresh evaluates on window (now - 1 min. -> now) ? | 15:28 |
aadams | I am not exactly sure on the math the thresh does but yes, i assume so | 15:29 |
witek | so the alarm state would correspond to the actual alarm state in the past | 15:29 |
aadams | yes | 15:30 |
nseyvet_ | The only way to detect that there is an NTP pb would be compare the state of a specific agent vs others, calculate a deviation and etc. | 15:30 |
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nseyvet_ | any network congestion can slow down packets for minutes | 15:30 |
aadams | sure | 15:31 |
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sgrasley1 | What is the NTP Check used for if it does not tell you about NTP problems? | 15:32 |
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aadams | That is a good question | 15:32 |
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amofakhar | you said having it in thresh is an option, would you please tell us what was the reason and benefits of choosing API for it? | 15:34 |
witek | yes, if it's all about NTP problems, it could be better approach to monitor the time offset on agent node | 15:34 |
aadams | Mostly time, and parity to the java implementation | 15:35 |
aadams | we already have this implemented with out configurability in the java api | 15:35 |
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witek | so, do we get to decisions? | 15:37 |
aadams | im not sure, did we decide that this needs to be implemented elsewhere? | 15:38 |
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witek | no, we could think of having it in thresh, but that's definitely more work | 15:39 |
aadams | I have already spent too much time on this bug | 15:39 |
witek | aadams: is this feature urgent for you? | 15:40 |
aadams | Im affraid I wont get permission to do a deeper fix | 15:40 |
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aadams | We can work around, but we have already seen this problem once on a customer environment and are a little affraid of dectecting it in the future | 15:40 |
witek | I would suggest to discuss it again during the PTG if it can wait until then | 15:41 |
aadams | sure | 15:41 |
witek | nseyvet_: ? | 15:42 |
aadams | although Im affraid I can't do any thresh work, so that fix might be just an open storyboard | 15:42 |
nseyvet_ | sure | 15:42 |
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amofakhar | Yes -> PTG | 15:43 |
aadams | Ok, thanks everybody! | 15:43 |
witek | ok, let's discuss it again then | 15:43 |
witek | thanks aadams | 15:43 |
nseyvet_ | What are the documentation describing the threshold engine computations? | 15:43 |
amofakhar | thank you aadams | 15:43 |
nseyvet_ | yes thanks aadams | 15:43 |
aadams | :) | 15:43 |
witek | nseyvet_: I think craigbr is the best to ask | 15:44 |
witek | #topic tempest tests | 15:44 |
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witek | I was going through bugs related to tempest tests | 15:45 |
witek | wanted to ask about this one: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001309 | 15:45 |
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witek | haven't seen it for a while now | 15:46 |
witek | is it fixed? | 15:46 |
witek | jamesgu: it's yours | 15:46 |
jamesgu | I ma havin gtrouble opening the story board | 15:47 |
jamesgu | ah yes... let me close it | 15:47 |
witek | cool, thanks | 15:47 |
witek | thanks to craigbr tip we have added some waits in other two test | 15:48 |
witek | which seems to fix occasional failures in CI jobs | 15:48 |
witek | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:2001533 | 15:48 |
witek | I'm adding Depends-On tag on changes which fail | 15:49 |
witek | to see if the fix helps | 15:49 |
witek | #topic Ceilosca update | 15:50 |
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witek | Ashwin has provided new path for monasca-ceilometer project | 15:50 |
witek | can someone report on the current state of the master branch? | 15:51 |
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witek | joadavis is not around? | 15:51 |
witek | peschk_l has also pushed two small changes for Ceilosca | 15:52 |
witek | he works for CloudKitty project | 15:53 |
witek | he proposed the presentation about integration with Monasca for the next Summit | 15:54 |
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witek | with cbellucci | 15:54 |
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witek | hi aagate | 15:54 |
aagate | hi witek | 15:55 |
witek | I've seen your recent change in monasca-ceilometer | 15:55 |
witek | could you give an update about the current state? | 15:55 |
witek | is it now in sync with current Ceilometer code? | 15:58 |
aagate | yes sure. We have made changes to monasca-ceilometer master so that it works with latest ceilometer master. Had to remove dependency within monasca-ceilometer on oslo config that was major change. | 15:58 |
witek | is there still some work remaining? | 15:58 |
aagate | Also monasca-ceilometer stable/pike now also works with ceilometer stable/pike | 15:59 |
witek | thanks, I have to finish soon | 15:59 |
witek | one more announcement | 16:00 |
aagate | There is still some work to do to make sure devstack plugin in monasca-ceilometer still functions as before. But as far as getting code uptospeed with ceilometer its done | 16:00 |
witek | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:2001533 | 16:00 |
witek | Monasca has gained the diverse-affiliation tag | 16:00 |
witek | :) | 16:00 |
witek | thanks everyone for your contribution | 16:00 |
witek | it's based on review stats | 16:01 |
witek | that's alll | 16:01 |
witek | thank you for today | 16:01 |
witek | bye bye | 16:01 |
witek | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 14 16:01:33 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-02-14-15.02.html | 16:01 |
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ying_zuo | #startmeeting horizon | 20:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 14 20:00:23 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ying_zuo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 20:00 |
ying_zuo | Hi everyone o/ | 20:00 |
e0ne | hi | 20:00 |
ying_zuo | Happy Valentine’s Day :) | 20:01 |
ying_zuo | #topic Queens-RC2 release next week | 20:02 |
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ying_zuo | that will be the final release candidate for Horizon Queens | 20:02 |
ying_zuo | thanks everyone for your contribution during this cycle :) | 20:02 |
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rdopiera | o/ | 20:03 |
ying_zuo | #topic Open Discussion | 20:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 20:03 | |
e0ne | any thought about removing nose from horizon? | 20:05 |
e0ne | it's not a big deal for us, but it could affect plugins | 20:05 |
ying_zuo | is it causing any problems? | 20:06 |
e0ne | originally, I looked at selenium job | 20:06 |
e0ne | for now, it passes almost every time but it's totally broken | 20:07 |
e0ne | we don't see any errors because of nose bug #link https://github.com/nose-devs/nose/issues/984 | 20:07 |
e0ne | that's why I started nose removal | 20:07 |
ying_zuo | oh, do you know why it's not reporting the errors? | 20:07 |
ying_zuo | I see | 20:09 |
rdopiera | e0ne: can't plugins install nose when they need it themselves? | 20:09 |
e0ne | rdopiera: I hope they do it | 20:09 |
rdopiera | e0ne: if not, that's a bug | 20:09 |
e0ne | I'll send a mail to openstack-dev, once my patch will be ready | 20:09 |
rdopiera | that's for Rocky, right? | 20:10 |
ying_zuo | yes | 20:10 |
e0ne | yes | 20:10 |
ying_zuo | right now the changes will be in Rocky by default | 20:10 |
ying_zuo | unless we cherry pick them to stable/queens | 20:11 |
e0ne | there are some issues with our tests and django test runner #link http://logs.openstack.org/96/544296/1/check/openstack-tox-py27/05cbfa1/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-02-14_12_57_10_208666 | 20:11 |
e0ne | but I figuread out why it's happening and fixing it | 20:11 |
e0ne | I didn't submit a blueprint yet | 20:12 |
e0ne | will do it a bit later | 20:12 |
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ying_zuo | cool. thanks | 20:12 |
e0ne | btw, here is my test patch for seleium job #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/544250/ | 20:13 |
e0ne | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/544296/ - WIP. Use default django test runner instead of nose | 20:14 |
ying_zuo | at least it's showing the tests failed | 20:18 |
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ying_zuo | interesting it doesn't show the same errors as in other reviews | 20:21 |
e0ne | yes, we've got some issues with out unit tests | 20:22 |
e0ne | some time, it's depend on execution order:( | 20:22 |
ying_zuo | yes, the tests pass on some reviews | 20:23 |
ying_zuo | I wonder if we need to manually check the test results before merging the code now | 20:24 |
ying_zuo | but the errors may not be caused by the changes on the reviews | 20:24 |
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ying_zuo | but I think we should check the unit test results before merging now | 20:25 |
e0ne | I almost completed patch to fix this issue | 20:26 |
e0ne | it will be ready this week | 20:26 |
ying_zuo | thank you | 20:26 |
e0ne | np | 20:26 |
ying_zuo | anything else to discuss? | 20:27 |
e0ne | nothing from me | 20:27 |
ying_zuo | thanks everyone for joining | 20:29 |
ying_zuo | enjoy the rest of your day | 20:29 |
ying_zuo | #endmeeting | 20:29 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 14 20:29:22 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:29 |
e0ne | see you next week | 20:29 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-02-14-20.00.html | 20:29 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-02-14-20.00.txt | 20:29 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2018/horizon.2018-02-14-20.00.log.html | 20:29 |
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