Thursday, 2018-04-19

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tenobreg#startmeeting sahara14:00
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openstackMeeting started Thu Apr 19 14:00:07 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tenobreg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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toskyo/14:00
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tenobregok, let's start14:02
tenobreg#topic News/Updates14:02
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tenobregI'm still working on both plugins and boot from volume14:03
jeremyfreudbergi pushed a patchset with what i have so far for admin controlling stuff in other projects14:04
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toskyI'm still mostly doing internal work, testing queens; and of course the usual reviews14:04
jeremyfreudberg(the commit message is intentionally empty for now -- i think a spec will explain it better while things are still WIP)14:04
tenobregI didn't look at it yet, but I will soon14:05
shuyingyaI am still preparing an examination. My boss ask me must pass it before 1st May. So I don't have spare time do upstream tasks :(14:05
tenobregno worries shuyingya14:06
zchkunI pushed a patch of vanilla 2.7.5 upgrade14:06
shuyingyathanks for your understanding14:06
tenobregzchkun, do you have specific reason why you need 2.7.5?14:07
toskytenobreg: I think that we discussed it some time ago: it's the last version of 2.7.x14:07
tenobregok, that makes sense14:07
jeremyfreudbergyeah, i think we discussed it a while ago: a new stable 2.7 series14:07
jeremyfreudbergwith newer oozie and hive too14:07
jeremyfreudbergmakes sense14:07
zchkunyes14:08
jeremyfreudbergthank you for that, zchkun14:08
tenobregwe could all take a look at it today, because if it is good to merge we can still put it in R114:08
shuyingyaI would like to leave a question here (do we need upgrade oozie to 5.0 in vanilla 2.7.5 ? )14:09
shuyingyawe can talk about it later14:09
toskyuhm, while it could be good, it requires a change to sahara-extra and sahara-image-elements, in addition to sahara, in order to be useful14:09
zchkunI upgrade oozie to 4.3 , the same with v2.8.214:09
toskyshuyingya: what does the Hadoop project say/suggests?14:09
zchkunand i want upgrade oozie 5.0 to vanilla 3.014:10
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shuyingyatosky, there is no suggestion about the version of oozie to vanilla 2.7.5 as I see14:11
jeremyfreudbergrelease log, to get an idea of the difference: https://github.com/apache/oozie/blob/master/release-log.txt14:11
jeremyfreudbergi guess there is not much coupling between hadoop and oozie version14:12
jeremyfreudberg5.0.0 is really new though (only two weeks)14:12
shuyingyaI recommend oozie 5.0 just because it can solve the page can't open issue14:12
jeremyfreudbergooh, the page can't open issue is a good one, though14:13
jeremyfreudbergi've seen it before14:13
tenobregjust a sec, let me change topic14:13
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tenobreg#topic Oozie 5.014:13
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shuyingyasorry tenobreg, I mostly forget the topic14:14
tenobregquick review, we are discussing if we should upgrade oozie to 5.0 on which version of hadoop that should happen14:14
tenobregno worries14:14
toskyoozie 5.0 requires >=Hadoop 2.6.014:14
toskyhttps://oozie.apache.org/docs/5.0.0/DG_QuickStart.html#System_Requirements:14:14
tenobregfor vanilla 2.7.5 zchkun upgrade to 4.314:14
tenobregwhich is the one we use for vanilla 2.8.214:14
zchkun4.314:14
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tenobregI believe we can keep 4.3 for 2.7.5 and work on 5.0 to vanilla 314:15
tenobregdoes that seem like a good approach?14:15
toskyout of curiosity. is 4.3.x still supported by oozie developers?14:15
jeremyfreudbergtosky: i think the more important constraint there is jdk 1.8 (if i remember how that works "1.8" really means "8", no?)14:15
toskyright14:15
jeremyfreudbergtosky: i think 4.3 is still supported, it's the latest 4.x series (but that assumes that their versino numbers are logical)14:16
tenobregthat could be a problem14:17
jeremyfreudbergtenobreg, what could be?14:17
tenobregjdk 1.814:17
shuyingyaI would be safe enough to keep 4.3.0 in 2.7.5. The only reason I recommend 5.0 just because of the oozie console page can't open14:17
tenobregwe could either specify that for that plugin that image has to be created with java 814:18
toskyopenjdk 1.8 is available on xenial and on centos714:18
tenobregyes14:18
toskydon't we use it already?14:18
jeremyfreudbergtenobreg about jdk, i just checked, we are good, i assume we don't care about fedora <=21, and we already don't care about centos/rhel614:18
tenobregwe do14:18
tenobregok that should be great14:18
tenobreglets get into a final decision here14:19
toskyfedora <= 25 is gone14:19
jeremyfreudbergtosky: good14:19
jeremyfreudbergtenobreg: yes, let's decide14:19
tenobreg2.7.5 with 4.3 and vanilla 3.0 with oozie 5?14:19
shuyingyaagree14:19
toskyok14:19
zchkunagree14:19
jeremyfreudbergagree14:19
toskyfor sure we could not have 5.0 with 2.7.5 but not with 2.8.2 :)14:20
jeremyfreudberg(tosky: that's my thought. it's easier to justify to the user this way)14:20
tenobreggreat, let's move on14:20
tenobreg#topic Rocky 114:21
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tenobregtoday I have to cut R114:21
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toskyalready? We have 4 pending commits which just waits another +214:21
toskys/commits/reviews/14:22
tenobregI would like to get some reviews on the plugins split spec, and on those patches that tosky mentioned14:22
toskybasically everything with a +214:22
tenobregyes14:23
tenobreglets get those merged so we have less work left over to R214:23
toskyI also added some comments to all (I think) other open reviews which are still relevent, asking for an heads-up (shuyingya answered already on one of them)14:23
tenobreglets move on, please take a look at the patches14:25
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tenobregdoes anyone have specific topics to discuss today?14:26
toskywould it be fine to add a co-gating job with openstack-ansible-os_sahara?14:26
tenobregI don't really understand the problem14:27
jeremyfreudbergi don't know what their own job does14:27
tenobreg#topic Open Discussion14:27
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tenobregwhat job are you thinking to go-gate with os-ansible-os_sahara?14:28
toskyquick story: last week I opened a bug for puppet-sahara and openstack-ansible-os_sahara to add support for [trustee] section14:28
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jeremyfreudbergtenobreg: the idea is that we check to see if their default configs actually work (spoiler: they don't). so we would want to run (i assume) the full scenario against a sahara set up by OSA14:28
toskyI ended up in the meeting of openstack-ansible (I didn't see meetings for puppet-openstack) for the bug triaging14:29
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tenobregthat seems like a good job to have14:29
toskyand after the meeting I was asked about adding a co-gating job, so basically a tempest job (or other, if we want) which deploys with ansible instead of devstack14:29
tenobregit is only failing on ansible?14:29
toskyno, it's not failing14:30
toskyI mean, they already have jobs which deploys sahara with openstack and ansible; adding it for each commit would prevent breakages for them14:30
tosky(we could do the same for tripleo too, even if their jobs are more resource-intensive)14:31
tenobreg+1 for me14:31
tosky(and puppet too, I think that tempest has non-voting puppet jobs triggered for each change)14:31
toskyokidoki, I will move forward at least with openstack-ansible then14:32
toskythanks14:32
tenobregI actually don't have more topics for today14:33
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tenobregjeremyfreudberg, shuyingya, zchkun, tosky? anything else?14:33
tenobregjeremyfreudberg, do you have updates on sahara ci?14:33
toskyno, apart from a new "please vote on the jobs" and "thanks Jeremy for changing the topic of that commit" :P14:33
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jeremyfreudbergtenobreg: no, i don't have an update, really14:34
shuyingyanope14:35
zchkunnothing from me14:35
tenobregok14:35
tenobregso we can close early today14:35
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tenobregthanks all, please review the patches and I will cut R-1 later today14:36
toskyo/14:36
tenobreg#endmeeting14:37
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mlavalle#startmeeting neutron_l315:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr 19 15:01:15 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3'15:01
haleybhi15:02
mlavalleHi there15:02
mlavalle#topic Announcements15:03
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mlavalleamotoki cut Rocky-1 already15:04
mlavalleso welcome to the race for the next milestone, Rocky-215:04
mlavalle#link https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html15:04
mlavalleThe Vancouver Summit is a little more than a month away:15:06
mlavalle#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/15:06
mlavalleI know haleyb won't be there :-(15:07
haleybnope, but bernard from our team will be there15:07
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mlavalleBut for those attending the Summit, please register here:  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-neutron-atendees15:08
mlavalleThat way we can track who will be there and plan the social event on Tuesday15:08
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mlavalleslaweq_ will be there, we will deliver together a QoS presentation15:09
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mlavalleAny other announcements?15:09
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mlavalle#topic Bugs15:10
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mlavalleFirst one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/171146315:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1711463 in neutron "TestNetworkBasicOps.test_network_basic_ops failed with "Timed out waiting for 172.24.5.8 to become reachable"" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel)15:11
mlavalleHaven't seen this one anymore. So I am closing it15:12
haleyback15:12
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mlavalleNExt one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/171730215:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1717302 in neutron "Tempest floatingip scenario tests failing on DVR Multinode setup with HA" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley)15:13
mlavalleI made a bit of progress in this one15:13
haleybsomeone reproduced it? :)15:13
mlavalleNot yet15:13
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mlavallebut I created a easily created DVR environment: https://github.com/miguellavalle/dvrvagrant15:14
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mlavalleit takes just ~40 minutes to create in my laptop15:14
mlavalleso it is really easy to create new ones15:15
mlavalleI haven't tested extensively yet, but I can see all the right namespaces and ports in br-int15:15
mlavalledon't pay attention to the details in the README. It refers to a routed networks environment15:16
mlavalleI will update soon15:16
mlavallein this DVR env I have allinone, compute1 and network nodes15:16
mlavallenext step is adding HA15:16
mlavallewith this we will have a throw away env to try to reproduce failures15:17
mlavalledmy plan is to use the allinone and network nodes for the HA piece. does that make sense to you haleyb?15:18
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haleybmlavalle: yeah, ha shouldn't be hard just need second NN15:19
mlavallehaleyb: the allinoe is also a network node15:19
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mlavalleI can add a second pure network node if you think that is better15:20
haleybah, and it also runs compute15:20
haleybno, should be fine since we might want to try with instance on compute or allinone15:20
mlavalleyeah, in my laptop I can have several more nodes, but I am trying to keep it to the minimum essentail number of nodes so it runs on most laptops15:21
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mlavalleok, next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/175630115:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1756301 in neutron "Tempest DVR HA multimode tests fails due to no FIP connectivity" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel)15:23
mlavallethe vagrant enviroment is also aimed at this one15:23
mlavalleI will also over the next week spend some time looking at the failures in the logs15:24
mlavalleNext one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/175831615:26
openstackLaunchpad bug 1758316 in neutron "Floating IP QoS don't work in DVR router" [High,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889)15:26
mlavalleThere is a proposed fix for it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558724/15:27
mlavalleUp until last week, it was still in WIP15:27
mlavallebut doesn't seem that is the situation anymore15:27
mlavalleso take a look when you have a chance15:28
haleybok, i'm watching it15:28
mlavallefinally, haleyb brought this one up last week: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/176155515:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1761555 in neutron "[dvr][fast-exit] router add/remove subnet operations are not idempotent" [Medium,New]15:29
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mlavalleThe submitter left an update today15:30
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mlavalleI didn't spent time on this bug this past week, but I will try to do it next week15:31
mlavalleany other bugs we should discuss today15:32
mlavalle?15:32
haleybi don't have any new ones15:32
mlavallecool15:33
mlavalle#topic Openflow DVR15:33
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mlavalleHere I want also to mention https://github.com/miguellavalle/dvrvagrant15:34
mlavalleOne of my goals creating that "throw away" test enviroment is to enable the testing of openflow DVR in multinode environment15:34
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mlavalleso now we have the platform15:34
mlavalleone experiment that I want to do soon is to deploy the PoC patch in this enviroment and see what happens15:35
mlavalleshould be fun15:35
mlavalleanything else on this topic?15:35
mlavalleok, moving on15:36
mlavalle#topic Open Agenda15:36
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mlavalleany other topics we should discuss today?15:37
mlavallecool, thanks for attending15:37
mlavalleenjoy the rest of the week!15:37
mlavalle#endmeeting15:37
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mlavallehaleyb: tell amuller I shamlessly stole ideas from https://assafmuller.com/2015/04/06/multinode-dvr-devstack/ for the vagrant env15:39
haleybmlavalle: will do, i believe it was open source :)15:40
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cdent#startmeeting api sig16:00
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cdent#chair cdent elmiko edleafe dtantsur16:00
openstackWarning: Nick not in channel: dtantsur16:00
openstackCurrent chairs: cdent dtantsur edleafe elmiko16:00
cdent#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-SIG#Agenda16:00
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cdent#link last minutes http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-04-12-16.00.html16:00
cdentedleafe you about?16:01
edleafeSorry, coffee took longer than expected to make16:01
cdenta whole minute late. so bad.16:01
edleafe...but the coffee's so good!16:01
cdentI submitted a change to fix the sig naming on the front page of specs.o.o16:01
cdent#link api-sig rename thing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/561625/16:02
cdenthas one +2 from infra16:02
cdentthat was the only action item16:02
edleafeI don't expect that to be too controversial16:02
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cdentno sir, although I had to make an additional change besides the link change, to satisfy the need to be complete16:03
cdent#topic open mic and ongoing or new biz16:03
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cdenti've got nothing here, other than reporting that I gave back our BOF slot for summit and we informally agreed the hallway was a good place to talk about things that come up between now and then16:03
edleafeLooks like Vancouver will be quiet16:03
edleafejinxish16:04
cdent#topic guidelines16:04
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cdenthttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z16:04
cdentlooks like we can merge one and free another?16:05
cdentfreeze16:05
cdentboth of mine16:05
cdentand we need a second core on the code fix in titles16:05
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edleafeWant me to do the honors?16:06
cdent#link cache-headers to be frozen https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550468/16:06
cdentyes please16:06
cdent#link errors guidance to be merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554921/16:06
edleafeDone16:07
cdentdid you do the magical invite reviewers thing, or did we decide tlast week that we don't really care?16:08
edleafeJust ran it16:08
edleafeWe didn't care last week because there wasn't new content16:09
cdentroger16:09
cdent#topic bug review16:10
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edleafe...and because elmiko spaced out :)16:10
cdent#link bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=016:10
cdentnothing new here, unless we count the test_titles fix in progress as new16:10
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edleafeit's trivial16:10
cdentanything to add on bugs?16:11
cdentor anything else?16:11
edleafenope16:11
cdent#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-newsletter16:11
cdentprobably my turn16:11
edleafeyeah. should be short and sweet16:11
edleafejust like this meeting16:11
cdentaye, will ping for proofs please16:11
cdent#endmeeting16:11
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: annakk: hi18:01
rkukurahi18:01
SumitNaiksatam#startmeeting networking_policy18:01
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annakkhello!18:01
tbachmanannakk: hi!18:01
SumitNaiksatamtbachman: hi18:01
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: hi!18:01
SumitNaiksatamnot much of an agenda at my end18:01
SumitNaiksatambut i thought we would just touch  base in case anything needed to be discussed18:02
SumitNaiksatam there are some driver patches in review18:02
SumitNaiksatamincluding a long standing one from rkukura18:02
SumitNaiksatamthe NSX patch is WIP18:03
annakkyes, still WIP18:03
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SumitNaiksatamanything project wide we want to discuss?18:03
rkukuranot from me18:03
annakkneither from me..18:04
SumitNaiksatamannakk: to give you a high level update on behalf of the folks at cisco here, we are kind of in the middle of dealing with several issues18:04
SumitNaiksatammostly on the driver side18:04
rkukuraany plans to start syncing with queens?18:04
SumitNaiksatamhence not much time for features18:04
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: i had blissfully lost track of queens18:04
annakkok thanks for the update18:04
SumitNaiksatami guess the stable release is out though18:05
SumitNaiksatam i mean branch18:05
SumitNaiksatamso if any one wants to take crack at queens sync, please feel free to :-P18:05
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annakkhopefully queens should be easy enough? I don't think much happened in neutron18:05
SumitNaiksatamannakk: i am hoping, and we dont have any DB related issue18:06
SumitNaiksatam*issues18:06
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SumitNaiksatami dont know if anything needs to change with regards object versioning18:06
SumitNaiksatamat some point we will have to visit the CLI migration18:07
SumitNaiksatamif nothing else, we can wrap up18:07
rkukurasounds good18:07
SumitNaiksatamthanks rkukura tbachman and annakk for joining!18:08
annakkthanks! bye18:08
tbachmanSumitNaiksatam: thx!18:08
rkukurathank you SumitNaiksatam!18:08
SumitNaiksatamuntil next time, bye!!18:08
SumitNaiksatam#endmeeting18:08
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