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ildikov#startmeeting openstack_upstream_institute20:00
openstackMeeting started Mon May  7 20:00:47 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ildikov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack_upstream_institute)"20:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_upstream_institute'20:00
ildikovdiablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, jungleboyj, csatari, spotz, mtreinish, gmann, tonyb20:00
diablo_rojoHello :)20:01
spotzo/20:01
ildikovhi :)20:01
jungleboyjo/20:01
ildikovagenda is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-upstream-institute-meetings20:01
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ildikovI sent out the first mail to the registered people20:02
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ildikovwe have 20 names on the list20:02
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mtreinisho/20:03
ildikovI saw one or two familiar names20:03
spotzEll I know, anyone else?20:03
jungleboyjThat is a good number.20:04
ildikovArmstrong, he attended the training earlier20:05
diablo_rojoInteresting that he is coming again.20:05
spotzInteresting he signed up as a speed mentor20:05
diablo_rojoYeah I saw that.20:05
ildikovyeah, not bad, I hope people didn't forget to book their travel accordingly :)20:05
ildikovspotz: yeah, I think he might've planned to be a mentor here too20:05
diablo_rojoHopefully the email you sent reminds them :)20:05
ildikov:)20:06
ildikovok, let's get to business20:06
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ildikovI added our important links to the agenda20:06
ildikovmainly20:06
ildikovhttps://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/91320:06
ildikovhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/contributor-guide+status:open20:06
ildikovhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/training-guides20:07
spotzI just checked the review links and looks like we're good here20:07
ildikovthanks to the docs guys we got the Contributor Guides patches landed today20:07
jungleboyjCool.20:07
ildikovso the question is what is essential from the open stories/tasks from StoryBoard20:08
ildikovI think we are getting there to be fine for the training20:08
ildikovI will check on the intro20:08
spotzNot the mentoring, we're working on getting a new leader and switching formats20:08
ildikovspotz: yeah, I saw the Forum topic20:09
diablo_rojoYeah that can wait.20:09
ildikovI think we don't need it that much, people weren't super interested in the intensive mentoring before so we can revisit that part20:09
diablo_rojoI think building out the Zuul section would be nice.20:09
diablo_rojoElastic Rechecks and whatnot20:10
ildikovdiablo_rojo: most of that got merged20:10
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo:  Yeah, there were comments about that the last time we ran it.20:10
ildikovdiablo_rojo: mtreinish got it covered20:10
jungleboyjExcellent.  He had most of the comments.  :-)20:10
diablo_rojoI saw the basic stuff, but I didn't see elastic recheck.20:10
* diablo_rojo might be a bit behind having spent last week on the beach 20:10
ildikovdiablo_rojo: it landed by now20:11
spotzIRC? Gerrit?20:11
ildikovspotz: we have only specifics for IRC left, same for Gerrit20:11
ildikovwe have DevStack and SandBox20:11
ildikovI added myself to SandBox20:11
ildikovanyone wants to take DevStack?20:11
ildikovor I rather ask20:12
ildikovwho will take DevStack? :)20:12
mtreinishdiablo_rojo: it merged yesterday: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/562355/20:12
spotzI got no clue on that one:)20:12
ildikovhttps://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200136020:12
mtreinishildikov: is it devstack in general, or in vm env?20:12
jungleboyjildikov:  I can try to take a stab at that.20:13
ildikovmtreinish: in general20:13
jungleboyjThough wouldn't stop mtreinish if he wants it.20:13
ildikovit's just what it is good for and how to apply a change and test it20:13
diablo_rojoThere still isn't info on elastic recheck.. That was marked as merged, but I don't see anything in the guide about it.20:13
mtreinishjungleboyj: go ahead, I'll review it when you put it together20:14
jungleboyjOk.  will take a stab at that in the next day or two.20:14
ildikovdiablo_rojo: is the page cached?20:15
mtreinishdiablo_rojo: https://docs.openstack.org/contributors/code-and-documentation/elastic-recheck.html20:15
spotzYeah I never change devstack beyond what services, IPs and passwords:)20:15
ildikovjungleboyj: thanks20:15
diablo_rojomtreinish, ah got it. Thanks :)20:15
ildikovthere's also an 'Allows you to...' story: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200190020:16
ildikovwould be nice to have a short summary for all the sections20:16
ildikovon what people will learn from it/what the tool/process is good for we describe20:16
diablo_rojoA lot of the sections already have them. Only a few left now I think.20:17
ildikovwe have some examples for that one already for IRC, Gerrit, etc.20:17
ildikovdiablo_rojo: do you have bandwidth to take that story?20:17
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diablo_rojoildikov, yeah I think I can handle that.20:19
ildikovdiablo_rojo: cool, thanks20:19
diablo_rojoNo problem.20:20
ildikovI think other parts in StoryBoard can wait as far as the training is concerned20:20
ildikovwhat would be great to have one or two people read through the guide to see how well it reads overall20:21
ildikovand what is missing that we might not captured in StoryBoard20:21
ildikovwho's up for that?20:21
spotzildikov: I can probably read:)20:22
ildikovspotz: sounds great, thanks!20:22
jungleboyjildikov:  I was thinking I needed to do that so I knew what was out there.20:22
jungleboyjSo I am happy to help there as well since I haven't seen as many of the patches.20:23
ildikovwhat would be nice is to have questionnaires for the lecture topics, like governance20:23
ildikovjungleboyj: great, go ahead, the more people read it through the more issues we catch20:23
diablo_rojoQuestionaaires like exercises?20:24
ildikovit can be that20:25
ildikovor if there are things we want to be sure they remember we can ask questions to ensure they read it20:25
jungleboyjildikov: ++20:25
ildikovso it can still be like the exercises20:25
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ildikovwe could have these at the end of the "boring" blocks and people can collect swags with finding the answers20:26
ildikovwe should also go through the slides and exercises we have20:26
ildikovI can work on that20:26
ildikovif anyone has bandwidth I would appreciate more eyes on that too :)20:27
ildikovspotz: diablo_rojo: how are we on swags?20:29
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spotzI've got like 10 stuffed penguin heads, some laptop camera covers, stickers and 2-3 yoyos20:30
spotzNo response from github20:30
ildikovspotz: no worries, that's a good list20:31
ildikovdiablo_rojo: you have OUI stickers, right?20:31
jungleboyjildikov:  I have some from last time and I think she said she had a bunch in a previous meeting.20:31
ildikovjungleboyj: ok, cool, just wanted to double check we're fine20:32
ildikovthe other thing I wanted to check is how much we want to encourage students to read things in advance20:32
ildikovas we're still working on the Guide, etc. I would say we can pilot with that next time20:33
ildikovwhat do you think?20:33
jungleboyjildikov:  Yeah, probably don't want them reading through it if we are still making changes.20:34
diablo_rojoI do still have stickers20:34
ildikovdiablo_rojo: cool, tnx20:34
ildikovjungleboyj: yeah, I got to that conclusion too20:35
ildikovok, I got through the items I wanted to check on20:35
ildikovwe have one more week before every gets into packing and flying and everything20:36
ildikovso please put up patches this week for both content, exercises/questionnaire, and fixes20:36
ildikovthat way we get some time to review and get these landed20:37
ildikovdiablo_rojo: can you take on the task to look for a place to meet before the training on Saturday?20:37
jungleboyjSounds good.20:37
diablo_rojoYeah I will add it to my todo list now20:37
ildikovdiablo_rojo: coolio, thank you!20:38
diablo_rojoNP20:38
ildikovI talked to kmarc and he's working on the VM image now20:38
ildikovhe got some issues with the new build20:39
ildikovI will keep in touch with him to see how things go20:39
ildikovworst case scenario is to make the older build work20:39
kmarcCheck the upstream institute chat, I have the image ready20:40
ildikovkmarc: \o/, thanks!!20:40
jungleboyjkmarc:  Yay!20:41
ildikovkmarc: IRC totally forgot to notify me about those pings... :/20:41
kmarc😀20:41
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ildikovso we're slowly, but steadily getting there20:42
ildikovanything else we didn't touch on today, but we should?20:43
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ildikovok, it seems we covered the ground for the remaining prep items20:45
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diablo_rojoAnd next week we have another video call right?20:45
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ildikovdon't forget that next week we will have the call at 2200 UTC as opposed to the meeting in this time slot!!!20:46
ildikovdiablo_rojo: was just typing that in :)20:46
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diablo_rojoLol20:46
ildikovI sent out the meeting invite20:46
diablo_rojogreat minds :)20:46
ildikovplz ping me if you don't have it!!20:46
ildikovdiablo_rojo: +1 ;)20:46
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jungleboyjSounds good.20:47
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ildikovanything else from anyone?20:47
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ildikovok, I take it as a no20:49
jungleboyjNope.20:49
ildikovplease work on your homeworks and keep an eye on open reviews!!!20:50
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jungleboyjWill do.20:50
ildikovthanks everyone!20:50
jungleboyjThanks.  Talk to you later.20:50
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ildikovhave a good day/night! :)20:50
ildikov#endmeeting20:50
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openstackMeeting ended Mon May  7 20:50:58 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)20:51
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diablo_rojoThanks!20:52
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