Thursday, 2018-05-10

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tellesnobrega#startmeeting sahara14:00
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openstackMeeting started Thu May 10 14:00:07 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tellesnobrega. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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toskyo/14:01
tellesnobregaI guess it is only you and me today tosky14:01
tellesnobregajeremy is not joining14:01
zchkuno/14:01
tellesnobregahey zchkun :)14:02
zchkun:)14:02
tellesnobregalets start14:02
tellesnobrega#topic News/Updates14:02
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tellesnobregaI'm working on plugins split, boot from volume and also will try to run cdh with TLS14:03
toskywe merged a bunch of fixes related to image generation, including backports14:03
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tellesnobregaand I was preparing summit presentations14:03
tellesnobregaand I will ask for a new queens release today or early tomorrow14:04
toskythere are few others on the way; I also worked on switching to wsgi by default (sorry for the mess if you are subscribed to storyboard)14:04
toskywe have also few external issues reported on storyboard (i.e. not by one of us)14:04
tellesnobregatosky, I got about 20 sotryboard emails here14:04
tosky'-_-14:06
tellesnobregano worries :)14:06
toskyI thought too much about it and I was going for the very wrong direction14:06
toskywhen I just needed 2 reviews to switch to wsgi (if I didn't mess up anything)14:07
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tellesnobregazchkun, any news from you?14:08
zchkunsorry, no many updates on my side14:08
tellesnobregaok14:09
tellesnobregalets move on14:09
toskywe have some reviews pending from you; I think that the one for sahara-image-elements can go in14:09
toskywaiting for Jeremy to recheck if his points about the changes in sahara.git were addressed14:09
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tellesnobrega#topic CDH issue14:10
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tellesnobregaJeremy asked me for us to talk about this bug reported on storyboard14:10
tellesnobrega#link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200195214:10
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tellesnobregaI can say that I've this before but the cluster did work14:11
tellesnobregatosky, have you seen this before?14:13
toskyyes, and the cluster is working14:13
toskyeven with the errors14:13
toskyI mean, it should be addressed, but I don't think it's the reason for a cluster not starting14:14
tellesnobregaI guess we can follow up asking if they are facing issues with it14:14
tellesnobregabut not much we can do right now14:15
toskyif it does not prevent the creation of the cluster, no14:16
tellesnobregaok, I will follow up at storyboard and we take actions from there14:16
toskyabout stories, I think that this is not a bug: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200197714:18
toskyI mean, it looks like a configuration issue, but you worked more than me with proxy14:19
tellesnobregait does look like a configuration issue14:19
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tellesnobregasince two engines can't ping 10.0.0.25, it makes sense to assume that his proxy is unreachable14:20
tellesnobregaexcept for the one engine close to it14:21
tellesnobregaI will also follow up on that14:23
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tellesnobregajeremy is also looking into it, from his comment on the bug14:24
tellesnobregaanything else on this topic?14:25
toskyI see, I missed his comment14:25
tellesnobregalets move on14:26
tellesnobrega#topic Open Discussion14:26
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tellesnobregaany topics for today?14:28
toskythere is another possible mox patch with +2 (I originally put -1, but after some discussion in fact the conversion is correct, see the comments)14:28
toskyother 2 patches require some work14:28
tellesnobregacan you paste the link:14:28
tellesnobrega?14:28
toskyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/564290/ - see the comments14:29
tellesnobregathanks14:29
toskyzchkun's patch which is ready (I think) is the sahara-image-elements one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/561596/ shows that it should work14:31
toskythat said: the Summit is in two weeks, right? I will be out too, so I guess we can skip the meeting14:31
tellesnobregacool14:31
toskywhat about next week? See who is around, and start if needed?14:32
tellesnobreganext week and the next one?14:32
tellesnobregayes please14:32
tellesnobregacan you be chair?14:32
toskynext week yes; in two weeks I will be out14:33
toskyI can chair next week, sure14:33
tellesnobregaduring summit week I will email canceling the meeting14:34
toskyas usual, yep14:35
tellesnobregaI don't remember anything else to discuss today14:35
tellesnobregado you? zchkun anything else?14:36
zchkunnothing from me, too14:36
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toskynothing else from me14:37
tellesnobregawe can close early and get 23 minutes back to work14:37
tellesnobregathanks all14:37
tellesnobregasee you all in 3 weeks14:37
toskyo/14:38
zchkuncool14:38
zchkunthanks14:38
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tellesnobrega#endmeeting14:39
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mlavalle#startmeeting neutron_l315:00
openstackMeeting started Thu May 10 15:00:48 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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mlavalleHi, anybody there?15:01
mlavalleok, so let's go to Open Agenda then15:04
mlavalle#topic Open Agenda15:04
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mlavalleWe have a series of patches by hjensas that enable the convertion of a non-routed network to a routed network:15:05
mlavalle#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1692490+(status:open+OR+status:merged)15:05
mlavalle#action mlavalle to review this patches15:05
mlavallethese^^^^15:05
mlavalle#endmeeting15:06
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edleafe#startmeeting api sig16:00
edleafe#chair cdent elmiko edleafe dtantsur16:00
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openstackCurrent chairs: cdent dtantsur edleafe elmiko16:00
edleafeSo... anyone here today?16:00
cdenthi16:01
edleafeQuite an echo in this large meeting room with just two people...16:02
edleafe#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-SIG#Agenda16:02
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edleafe#topic previous meeting action items16:02
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edleafe#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-05-03-16.00.html16:02
edleafeI did my action, and elmiko did his16:03
cdentthose were both done, yea?16:03
edleafeSo we should pat ourselves on our respective backs16:03
edleafeI got the Forum BoF moved to a non-conflicting time16:03
edleafeTuesday at 11am16:04
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cdentthat's a good thing16:06
edleafeThe suggestion on having those interested in GraphQL do a PoC was well-received16:06
cdentI'll be very curious to see how that goes?16:06
edleafe#link GraphQL PoC discussion http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-May/130219.html16:07
edleafeI would love to be convinced that it can be a wonderful thing16:07
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edleafeoops, I forgot...16:09
edleafe#topic open mic and ongoing or new biz16:09
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edleafeAnything else to add?16:09
cdentno sir16:09
edleafe#topic guidelines16:10
edleafe#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z16:10
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edleafeNothing new here16:10
edleafe#topic bug review16:10
edleafe#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=016:10
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edleafeLikewise16:10
cdentnor there16:10
cdentwe be in a rut16:10
edleafewe be busy16:10
edleafe#topic weekly newsletter16:11
edleafe#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-newsletter16:11
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edleafecdent: wanna take that?16:11
edleafeshould be quick16:11
cdentyeah, sure, seems fair16:11
edleafeAnything else?16:11
cdentwill ping when it needs a review16:11
cdentno sir16:11
edleafe#endmeeting16:11
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: annakk: hi18:01
SumitNaiksatam#startmeeting networking_policy18:01
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annakkHi18:01
SumitNaiksatamannakk: i had a couple of minor comments on your patch18:02
SumitNaiksatambut otherwise looks fine to me18:02
SumitNaiksatamhappy to merge it as is, if you want to go ahead18:02
annakkyes, thanks for that!18:02
annakkyes, lets merge, I'll address the comments in next patch18:02
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SumitNaiksatamannakk: okay sure18:02
SumitNaiksatamso for master and stable/pike, right?18:03
annakkcorrect18:03
rkukurahi SumitNaiksatam, annakk18:03
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: hi18:03
SumitNaiksatamannakk: done18:04
annakkthanks!18:04
annakkhi rkukura!18:04
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: were you planning to introduce testing the validation script in the aim gate job?18:04
rkukuraI do plan to18:05
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SumitNaiksatamokay thanks18:05
SumitNaiksatami went through most of the patch18:05
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rkukuraI’m not sure if I should add that in the current patch, or once the GBP validation is added18:06
SumitNaiksatamhsve to admit, its a bit more difficult to review than regular patches18:06
rkukuraI’ve been working on making validation fail (even with repair) when any GBP (or other features for which validation isn’t implemented) are in use18:06
SumitNaiksatami would vote in favor if adding it right away even if it means it doesnt cover the GBP resources18:07
SumitNaiksatamat some level of sanity check18:07
rkukuraright - I had looking into it a bit, and wasn’t sure exactly what runs as the AIM gate tests18:08
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: i can help you with that, will send you some pointers18:08
rkukurathere is also the GBP exercise script, but I don’t think that runs in the gate, right?18:08
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: it does18:08
rkukuraThere is a similar script somewhere under contrib, too, isn’t there?18:08
SumitNaiksatamso we can similarly add another sript18:09
SumitNaiksatami will send you a follow up email as to exactly what runs in the aim gate job, and from where18:09
rkukuraI’d rather not do a new script, but instead would like to add validation calls to existing scripts18:09
rkukurathe idea being to make sure scenarios tested in the scripts can be validated18:09
SumitNaiksatamyes, you can update the existing one, we have separate one for the aim gate job18:09
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SumitNaiksatamso it wont affect the other gate jobs18:10
rkukuraIs it easy to run the AIM gate script manually in a devstack?18:10
rkukurayou are right that adding validation to the regular exercise script would have to work with other PDs, not just AIM18:11
rkukuraAnd that is the goal18:11
SumitNaiksatam#link https://github.com/openstack/group-based-policy/blob/master/gbpservice/tests/contrib/devstack/exercises-aim/gbp_aim.sh18:11
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: ^^^18:11
SumitNaiksatamyou shoulkd be able to run that manually in a devstack18:11
rkukuramaybe I’ll start with that, and add validation to the normal exercise script once the generic GBP->Neutron validation is implemented18:12
SumitNaiksatamthe different between this one and the one for the other gate jobs is that we dont spin VMs here since we dont expect the data path to work (in the gate)18:12
rkukuraright18:12
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: yeah, that sounds perfect to me18:12
SumitNaiksatam*difference18:13
rkukuraok18:13
SumitNaiksatami don’t have anything else planned to discuss for today18:13
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: annakk: if nothing else, we can wrap up?18:13
rkukuraSumitNaiksatam: One question about GBP I ran into working on the validation18:13
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: ah  okay18:13
SumitNaiksatam?18:14
rkukuraI noticed that several model classes (like L2P and PTG) have nullable references to their parent model classes (L3P and L2P in these cases)18:14
rkukurawhy did we do it that way?18:14
rkukuraI can’t think of a way to use the REST API to make those references null18:15
rkukuraBut it seems we’ll need to validate that they aren’t null18:15
SumitNaiksatamhmmm18:16
SumitNaiksatamabout the REST API, checking18:16
rkukuraI can test by using sqlalchemy API to null them, etc..18:16
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SumitNaiksatamso create PTG REST API will allow you to create PTG withough specifying a L2P18:17
SumitNaiksatamthe driver might fail18:17
SumitNaiksatambut the REST API allows you18:17
SumitNaiksatamsame thing with L2P/L3P18:18
SumitNaiksatami think the thinking was that linear workflow does not have to imposed18:18
rkukuraIf I create an L2P without an L3P, and L3P gets implicitly created18:18
rkukuras/and/an/18:18
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SumitNaiksatamrkukura: good point, but i think that’s the implicit driver behavior18:19
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rkukuraI think you are right18:19
SumitNaiksatamalso you can think of as PTG and L2P as being different concerns18:19
rkukuraI guess I could try configuring tests without the implicit PD18:20
SumitNaiksatamthe former being a policy concern, and the latter being networking18:20
SumitNaiksatamso the backends might model them indepedently and hence we didnt want to enforce a strict dependency18:20
rkukurabut I suspect most PDs will not work without these dependent resources existing18:20
rkukuraUnless you’ve got a better ideal, I think I’ll test using a normal configuration, and using sqlalchemy to null out the references18:21
SumitNaiksatamyeah, agree18:21
SumitNaiksatamso of more modeling might have also been too idealistic :-)18:22
rkukurabut it seem the implicit PD is what should do validation that these dependencies exist18:22
SumitNaiksatammore -> our18:22
rkukuraI’m generally not trying to validate things that the DB enforces18:22
SumitNaiksatamthat makes sense18:23
SumitNaiksatamotherwise it will be too many things18:23
SumitNaiksatamalso things should be modeled in the right way18:23
SumitNaiksatamand if they are not i guess we need to fix them18:23
SumitNaiksatamso very good point to bring up18:24
rkukuraOK, I’m just dealing with making validation fail now when GBP resources exist, and will include some tests for this in the update to the current patch. The follow-on will try to put validation into each PD that validates what that PD is responsible for18:24
rkukuraOK, I think I’m set for now18:24
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: thanks for that update and discussion18:24
rkukuraI should have an updated patch soon - hopefully tomorrow18:24
SumitNaiksatamthanks18:24
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: annakk: thanks for joining18:25
SumitNaiksatamsee you next time18:25
SumitNaiksatamb ye18:25
rkukurabye18:25
annakkthanks! bye18:25
SumitNaiksatam#endmeeting18:25
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