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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 31 15:00:21 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | Hi there! | 15:00 |
| njohnston | o/ | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:01 | |
| mlavalle | Just a reminder that the Rocky-2 milestone will be next week | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | Any other announcements from the team? | 15:02 |
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| mlavalle | ok then, let's move on | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:03 | |
| mlavalle | First one for today is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1766701 | 15:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1766701 in neutron "Trunk Tests are failing often in dvr-multinode scenario job" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | I've been working on this one | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | At least one of the failures is due to a change introduced recently to an interface command | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | I have a tentative fix proposed to it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571043 | 15:05 |
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| mlavalle | I managed so far to change the nature of the error | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | but still need to do some additional work on it | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | any comments? | 15:06 |
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| haleyb | nice catch on the } | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | well, I still need to really fix it | 15:07 |
| haleyb | did you want to merge that change regardless? | 15:07 |
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| haleyb | or keep looking and do it all at once? | 15:08 |
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| mlavalle | I want to look at it further | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | I'll remove the WIP later | 15:09 |
| haleyb | ack | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1756301 | 15:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1756301 in neutron "Tempest DVR HA multimode tests fails due to no FIP connectivity" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | I spent some time with it earlier today | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | I can see the failures in several cases. | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | I am digging right now in http://logs.openstack.org/93/565593/4/check/neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full/1c1b813/job-output.txt.gz | 15:12 |
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| mlavalle | Looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1717302 | 15:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1717302 in neutron "Tempest floatingip scenario tests failing on DVR Multinode setup with HA" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | don't you think we can consolidate this two bugs? | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | these^^^^ | 15:13 |
| haleyb | probably as they are both dvr ha multinode | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | and it's essentially the same report about floating ips | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | The latter one has more debugging notes. So I will keep this one, assign it to me and mark the other one duplicated | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | makes sense? | 15:15 |
| haleyb | +1 | 15:15 |
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| Swami_ | hi | 15:16 |
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| mlavalle | Done | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | hey Swami_ | 15:16 |
| Swami_ | hi | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | do you have any bugs to report Swami_? | 15:17 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: yes I do have one, that needs some attention. | 15:18 |
| Swami_ | Let me pull up the bug | 15:18 |
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| Swami_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1773999 | 15:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1773999 in neutron "Allowed Address Pairs doesn’t work after neutron-port update" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Boris (boris-maeck) | 15:19 |
| Swami_ | We might have to revert one of the patches that we pushed in to address this issue. | 15:20 |
| Swami_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550676/ | 15:20 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: I need to have a conversation on this issue. | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | you mean a high bandwidth conversation? | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | or here? | 15:21 |
| Swami_ | Changing the ARP entry NUD, does not help for this bug, since if we have a temporary state in the ARP table and when traffic is routed between the subnets, the ARP entry goes back to incomplete. | 15:21 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: probably here, but if it takes longer then we can move to the channel. | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | let's carry on here | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | that way haleyb and njohnston can chime in | 15:22 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: The optimal way to address this issue is only by polling on the GARP message for a given IP in the router namespace and then add a permanent entry for the allowed_address_pair. | 15:22 |
| Swami_ | But this would have a hit in performance. | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 15:23 |
| Swami_ | Since it would have a hit in performance, should we make it configurable, so that people who wanted to use this feature can turn on or off the feature. | 15:23 |
| Swami_ | This all boils down to the design constraint of DVR not able to forward the ARP request outside of the given node. | 15:24 |
| haleyb | what is meant by 'polling'? i need to look at the bug | 15:25 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: haleyb: I mean't we need to sniff all the packets that are coming to the router-namespace and filter it by the GARP type and IP address registered to filter for. | 15:25 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: That is what I meant for polling. | 15:25 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: Is there any other way to address this issue. | 15:26 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: Do you think we need to file an RFE for this change request? | 15:27 |
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| mlavalle | that is probably a good idea | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | so we can iterate on the problem and the possible solution | 15:28 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: ok let me go ahead and file an RFE to discuss further on this approach. | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | should we do the revert right away? | 15:29 |
| haleyb | i don't know how we'd easily watch for gARPs. i guess i'd like to know how the router is trying to confirm the ARP and failing | 15:29 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: Yes right now, the router gets this GARP message and the ARP table is update as temporary. Since permanent entries are not changeable. | 15:30 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: So when we have a VM residing on a different subnet trying to ping this vrrp ip, the arp message from the VM reaches the router, the router sees the ARP table but since the entry is temporary it is trying to confirm by re-arping to the IP to confirm the MAC. Since we don't allow the ARP traffic to pass out, the ARP entry becomes invalid after a few seconds. | 15:31 |
| haleyb | Swami_: i guess writing it up is the first step, then maybe we can think of ways to fix it | 15:32 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: ok, I will write it up. | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | this is the status after merging https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550676/ | 15:33 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: mlavalle: I create an RFE and then add in my thoughts on how to approach this. | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | right? | 15:33 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: yes you are right. | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | yeah a write up will help | 15:34 |
| haleyb | so that change merged in master/queens/pike :( | 15:34 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: ok thanks, will do. | 15:34 |
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| Swami_ | haleyb: yes. | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | how about the revert? | 15:35 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: A revert should remove the existing change. | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | oh I know, but is that a more desirable poisition? | 15:36 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: But the allowed_address_pair issue will still persist and the long term solution would be the new approach that I mentioned. | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | ok, so it seems that we don't need to revert right away | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | am I correct? | 15:37 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: The reason someone had asked to revert is because, previously at least it was able to pass traffic if a customer manually did a port update, since port update will push in a new arp table update if MAC had changed and this patch broke it. | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | so reverting leaves us in a better position then | 15:39 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: So let us first revert it and think about the new proposal. | 15:39 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: yes | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | yeah, that is what I was tryiong to get at | 15:39 |
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| mlavalle | ok with you haleyb? | 15:39 |
| haleyb | sure | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | Swami_: will you propose the revert? | 15:40 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: Yes there is already a patch. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570941/ | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | Thanks | 15:40 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: haleyb: Another question about RFE. | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | not from me, I will wait for the RFE | 15:41 |
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| haleyb | mlavalle: just wonder if revert should be done from original change so context is all there | 15:41 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: haleyb: I will also file an RFE to make the FloatingIP path to IPv6, since we don't have IPv6 support right now for the fast path exit. | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: that is good point. let's preserve history | 15:42 |
| haleyb | Swami_: ok | 15:42 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: ok, I will revert from the original patch. I will push in one. | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | Swami_: that is this person's frist contribution | 15:43 |
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| Swami_ | mlavalle: Yes | 15:43 |
| mlavalle | let me leave a comment in his patch proposing that he does the revert from the original patch | 15:43 |
| mlavalle | I want to be welcoming ;-) | 15:43 |
| mlavalle | makes sense? | 15:44 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: Sure, nice. | 15:44 |
| haleyb | and they can revert the stable ones the same way | 15:44 |
| mlavalle | yeah, he might be interested in making a contribution | 15:44 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: he is a customer that I am working with. | 15:44 |
| mlavalle | ok done. I left a comment there | 15:46 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: thanks | 15:46 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: haleyb: I will be also filing an RFE for the IPv6 support for the FloatingIP namespace for DVR routers, since we don't have radpd and link local address in IPv6 yet. | 15:47 |
| mlavalle | Swami_: ack | 15:47 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: ok thanks | 15:47 |
| mlavalle | I also have a request for Swami_ and / or haleyb. Would you help triaging https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1773286? | 15:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1773286 in neutron "In some specific case with dvr mode I found the l2pop flows is incomplete." [Undecided,New] | 15:48 |
| haleyb | Swami_: ack, and there might be some old patches around to help make that work | 15:48 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: yes, I think I know this issue. | 15:48 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: yes, saw that and he replied with the bad code, haven't looked yet | 15:48 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: The line of code pointed in this bug, was by passed, since we were seeing an error log in the jenkins. | 15:49 |
| mlavalle | ok, cool. Please leave some comments in the bug | 15:49 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: But if it is eating up the l2pop, we can leave with the error log. | 15:49 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: will do. | 15:50 |
| mlavalle | The other petion that we have is to see if anyone has seen the following: | 15:50 |
| mlavalle | http://logs.openstack.org/87/564887/6/check/neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full/6296f64/logs/subnode-2/screen-q-l3.txt.gz?level=ERROR | 15:50 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: can you please point me to the old patches for the radpd for the fip namespace. | 15:50 |
| mlavalle | This came up in the last CI meeting | 15:51 |
| haleyb | Swami_: i'll find them, don't think it was with ra proxy (i think that's what you meant) | 15:51 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: thanks | 15:52 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: Let me check the code path to see why we are seeing this gateway route update error. | 15:52 |
| mlavalle | if you find something relevant, please file a bug | 15:53 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: sure will do. | 15:53 |
| mlavalle | Thank you! | 15:53 |
| mlavalle | Any other bugs we should discuss today? | 15:53 |
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| mlavalle | I take that as no | 15:54 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open Agenda | 15:54 |
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| mlavalle | any thing we should discuss today? | 15:55 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: I don't have any. | 15:55 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: You missed the good food and drinks in the summit | 15:56 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: do you know that Swami_ and Ryan Tidwell attended the Summit? | 15:56 |
| haleyb | darn, hope everyone had a good time | 15:56 |
| mlavalle | also Mark McClain | 15:56 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: rest assured you were missed ;-0 | 15:57 |
| haleyb | any more sea plane rides? | 15:57 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: I did a seaplane ride. | 15:57 |
| Swami_ | haleyb: it was fun getting on a seaplane ride. | 15:57 |
| mlavalle | I didn't do the sea plane this time around, but I went ziplinning in the mountains | 15:58 |
| mlavalle | 5 zip lines | 15:58 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: haleyb: It was an 1 hour ride. | 15:58 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: That would be fun | 15:58 |
| haleyb | you guys have all the fun :) | 15:58 |
| mlavalle | the longest one is almost a third of a mile long | 15:58 |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: Did you do it in the Grouse mountain. | 15:58 |
| mlavalle | Exactly, Grouse Mountain | 15:58 |
| mlavalle | ok, time is up | 15:59 |
| mlavalle | Nice talking to you | 15:59 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:59 | |
| Swami_ | mlavalle: haleyb: See you, bye | 15:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 31 15:59:27 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-05-31-15.00.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-05-31-15.00.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-05-31-15.00.log.html | 15:59 |
| edleafe | #startmeeting api_sig | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 31 16:00:05 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is edleafe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_sig' | 16:00 |
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| edleafe | #chair cdent elmiko edleafe dtantsur | 16:00 |
| edleafe | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-SIG#Agenda | 16:00 |
| openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: cdent | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: dtantsur | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: cdent dtantsur edleafe elmiko | 16:00 |
| edleafe | Heh, looks like I'm all by myself | 16:00 |
| edleafe | Any lurkers? | 16:00 |
| Luzi | o/ | 16:01 |
| edleafe | Hi | 16:01 |
| Luzi | hi | 16:01 |
| edleafe | Let's give people another minute or two | 16:02 |
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| edleafe | There's nothing new on the agenda, so let's just move to: | 16:04 |
| edleafe | #topic Open Discussion | 16:04 |
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| edleafe | So Luzi, anything you want to discuss? | 16:05 |
| Luzi | i am new here and was originally looking for the osc meeting | 16:05 |
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| Luzi | i've heard there aren't many people working on osc right now | 16:06 |
| edleafe | The osc meeting info is here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#OpenStackClient_Team_Meeting | 16:07 |
| Luzi | yyeah... and there was no meeting | 16:07 |
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| edleafe | heh | 16:07 |
| Luzi | not today and as it seems not in a few month | 16:07 |
| edleafe | People are still recovering from the Summit, perhaps | 16:07 |
| edleafe | uh, probably not | 16:08 |
| edleafe | they haven't had a meeting in 2018! http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/ | 16:08 |
| Luzi | if i may ask: what is the API sig all about? | 16:09 |
| edleafe | I would ping dtroyer in the #openstack-sdks channel - he would be the best person to get OSC info from | 16:09 |
| Luzi | oh thank you, i will try that :) | 16:09 |
| edleafe | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/API_SIG | 16:09 |
| edleafe | That should give you some background on the SIG | 16:10 |
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| edleafe | We are concerned with improving the APIs for both developers and consumers | 16:10 |
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| Luzi | so, if i would like to contribute something, which includes a new command or subcommand, i should look into those guidelines, right? | 16:12 |
| edleafe | Sure, that's always a good idea | 16:12 |
| edleafe | They also serve to help teams decide between different API designs | 16:13 |
| Luzi | so I will definitly have a look into this. Thank you | 16:14 |
| edleafe | You can always ping us in the #openstack-sdks channel for questions/info | 16:14 |
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| edleafe | OK, back to work I guess! :) | 16:15 |
| edleafe | #endmeeting | 16:15 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 31 16:15:58 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:16 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-05-31-16.00.html | 16:16 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-05-31-16.00.txt | 16:16 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-05-31-16.00.log.html | 16:16 |
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| rkukura | hi annakk! | 17:59 |
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| annakk | hi! | 18:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: annakk: hi | 18:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:00 |
| rkukura | hi | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 31 18:00:57 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i dont have much on the agenda for today | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | was wondering if annakk had any feedback from the Vancouver summit | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | (thanks for the earlier email update and email thread) | 18:01 |
| annakk | it was a good one. lost of edge talks | 18:01 |
| annakk | lots of unknown :) | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | :-) | 18:02 |
| annakk | kind of feels like a new era, which is nice | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annakk: is the scope of openstack changing? | 18:02 |
| annakk | there is work of assessing the gaps for the edge use case | 18:03 |
| annakk | whitepaper is out | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ah cool, do you have a pointer? | 18:03 |
| annakk | there are lots of gaps | 18:03 |
| annakk | i think this is the one https://www.openstack.org/assets/edge/OpenStack-EdgeWhitepaper-v3-online.pdf | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | great thanks annakk | 18:04 |
| annakk | on the administrative side, the foundation is no longer about openstack project only | 18:05 |
| annakk | kata containers and zuul are officially under same umbrella now | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | okay, evolving to becoming like a linux foundation i guess | 18:05 |
| annakk | maybe, yeah | 18:06 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i noticed there was talk around Spinnaker in that direction | 18:07 |
| annakk | I'd recommend to watch some of the edge talks and network slicing talks - I can send pointer later if you want | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annakk: oh cool, that would be nice | 18:07 |
| rkukura | yes - thanks | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: anything at your end? | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman i think is not joining the meeting today, he is buried with the release | 18:08 |
| rkukura | only that the initial AIM validation patch merged, working on a quick followup with fixes, then attacking the GBP validation | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rkukura: yes thanks for that | 18:08 |
| rkukura | so the GBP validation might be of wider interest | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annakk: at our end its just been trying to deal with many releases | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | on the product side | 18:09 |
| annakk | ok | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | most of the time going in chasing bugs | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | there was one on the UI side | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the major refactoring which landed in Pike actually caused the non-GBP launch instance workflows to break | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so if you installed GBP, your ability to launch instances from compute or network topology was broken | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we fixed that | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | lot of other driver side issues | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anway | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if nothing else, we can finish early | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | annakk: rkukura: thanks for joining! | 18:11 |
| rkukura | sounds good | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye | 18:11 |
| rkukura | bye | 18:11 |
| annakk | bye! | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:11 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 31 18:11:50 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:11 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2018/networking_policy.2018-05-31-18.00.html | 18:11 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2018/networking_policy.2018-05-31-18.00.txt | 18:11 |
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