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| tellesnobrega | #startmeeting sahara | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 21 14:00:06 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tellesnobrega. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 14:00 |
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| tosky | o/ | 14:00 |
| jeremyfreudberg | o/ | 14:01 |
| zchkun | o/ | 14:01 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic News/Updates | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "News/Updates (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:02 | |
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| tosky | everything is aws^H^H^H^Hbroken | 14:03 |
| tosky | ehm | 14:03 |
| tellesnobrega | even your keyboard lol | 14:03 |
| tosky | short version: a keystone change (new default roles) uncovered: a not well-known assumption (roles are not case-sensitive) | 14:04 |
| tosky | and a bug in trust handling (which Jeremy reproduced, and posted some patches which are not yet merged) | 14:04 |
| tosky | that's why we can't merge anything | 14:05 |
| tellesnobrega | I'm working on some bugs, extjs one and ambari tls v1 on sahara-image-elements one (I will bring this up later on its own topic), I'm waiting on a patch on openstackclient to continue the boot from volume work | 14:05 |
| jeremyfreudberg | my summary: i spent the beginning of the week diagnosing and proposing fixes to keystone, and yesterday working on s3... running into a lot of last minute jar/classpath problems | 14:05 |
| tosky | oh, my summary: I played with devstack-plugin-ceph, which is finally able to deploy a working radosgw | 14:06 |
| tosky | so I'm testing a scenario job with radosgw instead of swift, useful for two reasons: | 14:06 |
| tosky | - testing of S3 too | 14:06 |
| jeremyfreudberg | (tosky: i find the failed cluster scaling on the radosgw job really strange) | 14:06 |
| tosky | - testing of python 3 (swift is not ported and a mixed environment with only swift/python2 does not work right now) | 14:07 |
| tosky | jeremyfreudberg: probably resources, it looked like a timeout; I recreated the test disabling ceph integration with nova, glance and cinder and it's passing | 14:07 |
| tellesnobrega | also, I'm working on updating storm plugins versions and later spark | 14:07 |
| jeremyfreudberg | tosky: ah, makes sense | 14:07 |
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| tellesnobrega | zchkun, any news from you? | 14:09 |
| zchkun | sorry, no progress has been made this week, but I want to do some other spare work I don't know | 14:10 |
| tellesnobrega | ok, lets move on. zchkun I may have some work for you, if you want | 14:11 |
| zchkun | ok , no problem | 14:11 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic Ambari TLS v1 | 14:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ambari TLS v1 (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:12 | |
| tellesnobrega | we have a bug filed by tosky about the update on ambari that breaks versions below 2.4.3.0 | 14:12 |
| tellesnobrega | we started an etherpad to gather info on it so we try to get to a decision on how to properly fix this issue | 14:13 |
| tellesnobrega | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-ambari-tls | 14:13 |
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| tosky | it's a complicated issue, the original story contains more details | 14:14 |
| tosky | uh, we need a link to the story in the etherpad | 14:14 |
| tellesnobrega | please take a look at it, get familiar so we can discuss later | 14:15 |
| tellesnobrega | I will update it | 14:15 |
| tellesnobrega | done | 14:15 |
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| tosky | the short version: with recent updates of java, ambari-agent tries to use a now deprecated version of encryption while talking with ambari-server, and it fails | 14:16 |
| tosky | the last Ambari 2.4.x fixes it, which is good if you use queens and sahara-image-pack for the images (it was fixed there), but not sahara-image-elements; and that means that pike is broken | 14:17 |
| tosky | there are few possible solutions on how to handle this, with difficult degrees of complication | 14:18 |
| tosky | but yeah | 14:18 |
| tosky | life | 14:18 |
| tellesnobrega | I don't think we will have a solution today, so please read the etherpad, see the options, and lets try to get a solution asap | 14:20 |
| tosky | I just added another option | 14:21 |
| tellesnobrega | cool | 14:21 |
| tellesnobrega | we could try to get down to 3 or 2 best solutions | 14:22 |
| tellesnobrega | and try to decide from there | 14:22 |
| tellesnobrega | lets see how it goes | 14:22 |
| tellesnobrega | tosky, do you want to go over options now? | 14:23 |
| tosky | so, option 1. and 2. are about pinning: either older system packages, or per ambari version | 14:24 |
| tosky | this seems easy but it leaves out a lot of updates, and it could not be so quick to go back to older versions | 14:25 |
| tosky | 3. is about dropping support (the kthxbye solution) | 14:25 |
| tosky | support for ambari in pike, basically | 14:25 |
| tosky | and ambari/sahara-image-elements from queens | 14:26 |
| tellesnobrega | I guess that one is the worst one | 14:26 |
| tellesnobrega | pike is too soon | 14:26 |
| tosky | 4. requires coding: create an (ugly) patch which should be applied to the version of ambari-agent used (in 2.2.1.0 and 2.2.0.x, the version that we use) which forces the new protocol | 14:27 |
| tosky | 5. is: check if Ambari 2.4, available with sahara-image-elements too in some older versions, works | 14:27 |
| tosky | there have been reports of bugs, though, so it would need testing | 14:27 |
| tosky | 6. (just added) is: allow new packages, but ignore security a bit for those older versions, and reenable the old SSL protocols *if possible* | 14:28 |
| tosky | (not sure if they have been removed at compile time) | 14:28 |
| tosky | it won't be worse than what users have now | 14:28 |
| tosky | that's it | 14:28 |
| tellesnobrega | ok, I guess 4,5 and 6 are the best ones | 14:29 |
| tellesnobrega | I like 4 without the (ugly) | 14:31 |
| tellesnobrega | and 5 is the best one if it works I guess | 14:31 |
| tellesnobrega | we could start testing 5 and if it fails we fall back to 4 | 14:32 |
| tellesnobrega | tosky, does that makes sense to you? jeremyfreudberg | 14:34 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i think 5 is worth trying | 14:34 |
| tellesnobrega | I think so too | 14:35 |
| tellesnobrega | lets do it this way and we move on from there | 14:36 |
| tosky | I really don't know; the article on the cloudera site that explained the issue does not say which change exactly happen in the jdk, but maybe 6. could be easy | 14:36 |
| tosky | anyway, yeah, let's move on | 14:36 |
| tosky | there is at least another big topic | 14:36 |
| tellesnobrega | we can have 6 too, but I would like to try 5 first | 14:36 |
| tellesnobrega | which topic you are thinking about? keystone issue? | 14:37 |
| tosky | exact status S3, and I think that jeremyfreudberg has some updates there | 14:37 |
| tellesnobrega | ok | 14:37 |
| tellesnobrega | let me just run quick topic | 14:38 |
| tellesnobrega | and we move on there | 14:38 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yup | 14:38 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic Plugins upgrade | 14:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Plugins upgrade (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:38 | |
| tellesnobrega | right now we are still missing storm 1.2*, spark 2.3 and 2.2.1, and mapr 6 | 14:39 |
| tellesnobrega | cdh 5.13 is there | 14:39 |
| tellesnobrega | probably we are not doing 5.14 | 14:39 |
| tellesnobrega | and maybe skip 5.12 | 14:39 |
| tellesnobrega | zchkun, that is the work that you could do if you want | 14:39 |
| tellesnobrega | work on mapr 6 | 14:40 |
| tellesnobrega | I'm working on storm and will do spark after | 14:40 |
| zchkun | ok | 14:40 |
| tellesnobrega | let me know if you need help | 14:41 |
| tellesnobrega | ok | 14:41 |
| zchkun | does mapr 6 need to be merged before rock? | 14:41 |
| tellesnobrega | that is the plan | 14:41 |
| tosky | we would like to do it at least :) | 14:41 |
| tellesnobrega | do you think you can handle that? | 14:41 |
| zchkun | ok, I do my best | 14:41 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks | 14:42 |
| jeremyfreudberg | it's not absolutely essential | 14:42 |
| tellesnobrega | let me know if you need my help | 14:42 |
| jeremyfreudberg | btw, if you look the git history this will be the first mapr upgrade done without any mapr people | 14:42 |
| tellesnobrega | yes, not essential, but desirable | 14:42 |
| zchkun | ok , I get to know it first | 14:43 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | yes, even if the upgrade is not finished, it will be very nice to have somebody with knowledge | 14:43 |
| jeremyfreudberg | so, thanks zchkun for being willing to learn | 14:43 |
| zchkun | ok, thanks :) | 14:44 |
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| tellesnobrega | cool | 14:45 |
| tellesnobrega | tosky, what is the topic you want now? | 14:45 |
| tosky | S3 :) | 14:46 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic S3 | 14:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "S3 (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:46 | |
| tosky | sooo, support for S3; we have the basic in place and working correctly with later versions of Vanilla | 14:46 |
| tosky | but talking with jeremyfreudberg, it looks like the status for vendor plugins is a bit more complex | 14:47 |
| jeremyfreudberg | well, not just vendor plugins, edp with s3 datasources is getting complicated everywhere | 14:47 |
| tosky | ok, could you summarize the status? | 14:47 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yes, typing | 14:47 |
| jeremyfreudberg | to put in one sentence, there are a lot of unseen issues that i missed during my manual testing that now are popping up when doing "real" edp | 14:48 |
| jeremyfreudberg | 1) some problem with oozie classpath | 14:48 |
| jeremyfreudberg | 2) some problem with older hadoop-aws jar | 14:48 |
| jeremyfreudberg | 3) some problem with spark jobs against s3 using incompatible version of hadoop-common | 14:49 |
| jeremyfreudberg | 2 and 3 will both involve some jar patching or replacing | 14:49 |
| jeremyfreudberg | 1 is a bit of a mystery, working on it now | 14:50 |
| jeremyfreudberg | basically, i will need to be making image changes, again | 14:50 |
| tosky | is it something that will end up like the fork of hadoop-swiftfs, or a lighter solution is possible? (additional jars, for example) | 14:50 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | an additional jar won't help, really what we need is an edit | 14:52 |
| tosky | an edit means a change in the jar code used by the plugin and its rebuild ? | 14:54 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | we will probably have to host jars on tarballs.o.o | 14:55 |
| jeremyfreudberg | it won't be an actual fork, though | 14:55 |
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| tosky | if it's not a fork and it's not an additional jar, what it's going to be? :) | 14:56 |
| jeremyfreudberg | maybe something like https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/deployment/jar/update.html to edit the jar from central.maven.org | 14:57 |
| jeremyfreudberg | or otherwise, just a patch file to apply to the source code hosted elsewhere | 14:57 |
| tosky | oh, patch a jar file, I see | 14:57 |
| jeremyfreudberg | an "actual fork" would mean hosting the entire source code of whatever library, and i don't want to do that | 14:57 |
| tosky | right, but from the point of view of our workflow, apart from the cost of updating it later to the upstream version, it's not much different | 14:58 |
| tosky | so does it mean that the support for S3 that Cloudera advertises is not enough for our usage? | 14:58 |
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| tosky | and more important: do we have a roadmap/table of what to do? | 14:59 |
| * jeremyfreudberg looks at clock | 14:59 | |
| tosky | (we are running out of time, we can continue on #openstack-sahara) | 14:59 |
| jeremyfreudberg | the answer is the cloudera jar is unsufficient | 14:59 |
| tellesnobrega | let me close the meeting | 15:00 |
| tellesnobrega | we continue on #openstack-sahara | 15:00 |
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| tellesnobrega | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 21 15:00:17 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-06-21-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks all | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-06-21-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-06-21-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 21 15:01:14 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| manjeets | hello | 15:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | hey manjeets | 15:01 |
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| haleyb | hi | 15:02 |
| Swami | hi | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:02 | |
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| mlavalle | Please remember that the Rocky-3 milestone will be the week of July 23 - 27 | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | so we have about 5 weeks left | 15:05 |
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| mlavalle | Call for presentations for the Berlin Summit will be open until July 15th | 15:05 |
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| mlavalle | any other announcements from the team? | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:06 | |
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| mlavalle | Before anything else, last week I took the action item of bringing this bug up in the FWaaS meeting: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1762454 | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1762454 in neutron "FWaaS: Invalid port error on associating ports (distributed router) to firewall group" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Sridar Kandaswamy (skandasw) | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | which I did today | 15:07 |
| Swami | mlavalle: thanks | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | Sridar indicated he will be workng on it soon | 15:07 |
| Swami | mlavalle: nice | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | Swami: go ahead, please | 15:08 |
| Swami | ok | 15:08 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1776984 | 15:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1776984 in neutron "DVR: Self recover from the loss of 'fg' ports in FIP Namespace " [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:08 |
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| Swami | Patch is up for review. #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575562/ | 15:09 |
| Swami | But there is one question related to this bug. | 15:09 |
| Swami | I have seen some cases where the ovs_neutron_agent is not flagging an ovs port as an active port, in this case it is the 'fg' port. | 15:10 |
| Swami | Should the 'fg' port always be associated with an internal bridge of name 'br-int'? | 15:10 |
| Swami | #link https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/openvswitch/agent/ovs_neutron_agent.py#L1531 | 15:12 |
| Swami | I am seeing this error in Pike, not sure if this was due to the removal of the br-ex bridge. | 15:13 |
| Swami | mlavalle: haleyb: Do you have any idea. | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | but it mostly works in the integration bridge, right? | 15:13 |
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| Swami | mlavalle: yes | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | I think we should contnue on that path | 15:14 |
| Swami | ok. | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | and determine why the port is not found on some situations | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | is this happening in check / gate jobs | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | ? | 15:15 |
| Swami | mlavalle: The problem is the port is getting added to the external-bridge, but it is not getting initialized since it is not part in br-int. So I don't remember exactly how it used to be. Was it part of br-ex and now it has been moved to br-int or it always used to be in br-int | 15:16 |
| Swami | mlavalle: no it is happening in Pike in our internal setup. | 15:16 |
| haleyb | Swami: hmm, i don't remember if it's always been that way | 15:17 |
| Swami | mlavalle: The fip namespace has the 'fg' port configured and set, but since the internal ovs port is not active it fails | 15:17 |
| Swami | haleyb: mlavalle: ok thanks, I will do some more investigation on why it failed. | 15:17 |
| Swami | haleyb: Ok, in that circumstance, do we need to fix anything in the l3 agent to take care of the internal failure. | 15:18 |
| Swami | Because today we only check the 'fg' port and fipnamespace and 'fpr' port within the namespace. | 15:19 |
| Swami | haleyb: Shouldn't the 'fg.device.exists() tell us that the ovs port underneath is not ACTIVE or dead. Since it has a vlan tag of 4095. | 15:20 |
| haleyb | Swami: if it's there but tag 4095 i think exists() will be True | 15:21 |
| haleyb | that's just an ip link type check right? | 15:21 |
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| Swami | mlavalle: haleyb: Yes that is what we are seeing. | 15:21 |
| Swami | haleyb: ok, I will discuss this further in the channel. Just giving a heads up on this. | 15:22 |
| haleyb | ack | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | buwhat do we do with the patch in Gerrit | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | hold it off? | 15:22 |
| Swami | mlavalle: we can allow this patch to merge. | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:23 |
| Swami | mlavalle: This solves the purpose when the 'fg' port in not there or was accidentally deleted. | 15:23 |
| Swami | mlavalle: The one that I was discussing is little different since the 'fg' port is there but not active. | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 15:24 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1761591 | 15:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1761591 in neutron "[dvr] enable_snat attribute is ignored - centralized snat port gets created" [Undecided,New] | 15:24 |
| Swami | I looked at this bug. It seems that there might be an issue with the SNAT iptable rule handling in the SNAT namespace based on enable_snat. | 15:25 |
| Swami | I will update the bug on the findings and will address first handling of the enable_snat. | 15:26 |
| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1753434 | 15:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1753434 in neutron "Unbound ports floating ip not working with address scopes in DVR HA " [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:27 |
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| Swami | I have not triaged this bug yet. I will triage this bug and update my findings in there. | 15:28 |
| Swami | mlavalle: that's all I had for today. Back to you | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | Thanks Swami | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | First one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1757482 | 15:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1757482 in neutron "IP address for a router interface allowed outside the allocation range of subnet" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:29 |
| mlavalle | Proposed fix for it is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575444/ | 15:29 |
| mlavalle | I think it is good to go | 15:29 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: ack, will look | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | Addressed some comments from slaweq, who +2ed it earlier today | 15:30 |
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| mlavalle | I have come back to https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1766701 | 15:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1766701 in neutron "Trunk Tests are failing often in dvr-multinode scenario job" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | I have a test patch here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571043 | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | Thanks to haleyb for his comments. | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | Yeah, it makes sense | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | we re assuming the devices start with e | 15:32 |
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| mlavalle | earlier today I have resorted to test the command line piece by piece | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | and will continue today with that | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | Hope to update the patch soon | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | might ping haleyb in the channel | 15:34 |
| haleyb | i'm still here :) | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | That's all I have | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | any other bugs we should discuss today? | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | #topic Openflow DVR | 15:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openflow DVR (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:35 | |
| mlavalle | haleyb took a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472289/ | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | Thanks | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | anything you might want to highlight from your review? | 15:36 |
| haleyb | there was a lot of code duplication from what i could tell | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | he will be off until the week of July 5th | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | I will take alook also before he comes back | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | moving on.... | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | #topic Port forwarding | 15:38 |
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| mlavalle | There is a series of four patches that start here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535647 | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | 3 for the server and one for the agent | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | they are passing zuul | 15:39 |
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| mlavalle | so please take a look when you have a chance | 15:39 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Open Agenda | 15:40 |
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| mlavalle | Anything else to disucss today? | 15:40 |
| Swami | mlavalle: haleyb: Do any of you have a working 'devstack' local.conf file for the current master branch. I have some issues with mine | 15:41 |
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| mlavalle | Swami: I have a vagrant script for DVR. would that help? | 15:41 |
| Swami | If you have can you share. | 15:41 |
| haleyb | Swami: yes, i have one, basically i took the sample and added just two lines i think | 15:41 |
| Swami | mlavalle: Sure that would help. | 15:41 |
| manjeets | i usually steal from gate job logs | 15:41 |
| manjeets | lol | 15:42 |
| Swami | haleyb: yes, can you paste it in pastebin. | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | Swami: https://github.com/miguellavalle/dvrvagrant | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | I have an update for it in my local system | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | give me an hour and I'll push the update | 15:42 |
| Swami | mlavalle, ok thanks | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | don't pay attention to the readme. it is for a routed networks config | 15:43 |
| Swami | ok | 15:43 |
| mlavalle | although must of it is still applicable | 15:43 |
| haleyb | Swami: cp samples/local.conf .; edit and add PUBLIC_INTERFACE=$your_interface and Q_DVR_MODE=dvr_snat | 15:44 |
| mlavalle | I will try to update it soon | 15:44 |
| haleyb | i don't set any other flags and let the scripts do it | 15:44 |
| Swami | haleyb: ok thanks will do. | 15:44 |
| haleyb | as the default sometimes change and break things | 15:44 |
| mlavalle | anything else today? | 15:45 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:46 |
| mlavalle | thanks for attending | 15:46 |
| mlavalle | Enjoy the World Cup! | 15:46 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:46 |
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| manjeets | thanks ! | 15:46 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 21 15:46:30 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-06-21-15.01.html | 15:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-06-21-15.01.txt | 15:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-06-21-15.01.log.html | 15:46 |
| mlavalle | manjeets: thanks for your reviews and comments | 15:46 |
| mlavalle | much appreciated :-) | 15:46 |
| manjeets | :) | 15:47 |
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| dtantsur | elmiko: wanna start or should I? | 16:00 |
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| elmiko | go for it! | 16:00 |
| dtantsur | #startmeeting api sig | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 21 16:00:37 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtantsur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api sig)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_sig' | 16:00 |
| dtantsur | #chair cdent elmiko edleafe dtantsur | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: cdent dtantsur edleafe elmiko | 16:00 |
| elmiko | =D | 16:00 |
| dtantsur | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-SIG#Agenda | 16:00 |
| dtantsur | okay, let's now give some time for people to join :) | 16:01 |
| elmiko | sounds good | 16:01 |
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| dtantsur | #topic previous meeting action items | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "previous meeting action items (Meeting topic: api sig)" | 16:01 | |
| edleafe | \o | 16:01 |
| cdent | oh hai | 16:01 |
| dtantsur | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-06-14-16.00.html | 16:02 |
| dtantsur | whatever huzzah means, we promised to say it to edleafe more | 16:02 |
| edleafe | Guess I didn't do mine yet | 16:02 |
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| elmiko | huzzah edleafe ! | 16:02 |
| edleafe | https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=huzzah | 16:02 |
| elmiko | dtantsur: huzzah, kinda like hooray! | 16:02 |
| dtantsur | TIL | 16:03 |
| elmiko | risky click... | 16:03 |
| edleafe | I'll send an email to Gilles via the dev list now that SB is up and running | 16:03 |
| elmiko | ++ | 16:03 |
| dtantsur | yeah, you never know what comes out of urbandict | 16:03 |
| elmiko | right | 16:03 |
| edleafe | thought you were going to say "you never know what comes out of edleafe" | 16:03 |
| dtantsur | that's quite true as well :D | 16:03 |
| dtantsur | #action edleafe to send an email to Gilles re SB | 16:04 |
| elmiko | edleafe: LOL | 16:04 |
| dtantsur | #topic open mic and ongoing or new biz | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open mic and ongoing or new biz (Meeting topic: api sig)" | 16:04 | |
| dtantsur | Any Forum Followup Required? | 16:04 |
| elmiko | i don't think so | 16:05 |
| dtantsur | anything except for graphql coming out of it? | 16:05 |
| elmiko | i do want to point out for the record, that the graphql work seems to have started | 16:05 |
| dtantsur | huzzah! | 16:05 |
| elmiko | and Gilles had an email about an early working version of neutron with network queries in place | 16:05 |
| edleafe | huh, just noticed that Action Items, by person, says that I have to say huzzah to myself more | 16:06 |
| elmiko | well played dtantsur ;) | 16:06 |
| cdent | I create a new thing about errors based on irc conversation yesterday | 16:06 |
| elmiko | edleafe: that could get weird around the house | 16:06 |
| dtantsur | elmiko: you cannot be sure that I'm not just a google's new neural network learning from the messages on this meeting, can you? | 16:06 |
| edleafe | A neural network would be more interesting | 16:07 |
| elmiko | no, i really can't XD | 16:07 |
| edleafe | :-P | 16:07 |
| elmiko | also, | 16:07 |
| elmiko | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131557.html | 16:07 |
| * dtantsur readjusts his weights | 16:07 | |
| dtantsur | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575898/ first graphql patch for neutron | 16:08 |
| elmiko | we just need a good markov chain to write our newsletters and we'll be all set | 16:08 |
| dtantsur | elmiko: oh, so edleafe is not not one? Oo | 16:08 |
| * dtantsur hides | 16:08 | |
| edleafe | surprising, isn't it? | 16:08 |
| * edleafe is more of a block(head)chain, not markov | 16:09 | |
| dtantsur | yeah | 16:09 |
| elmiko | haha | 16:09 |
| elmiko | comedy gold today | 16:09 |
| * dtantsur wants neutron API in a blockchain, graphql is boring | 16:09 | |
| dtantsur | anyway | 16:09 |
| dtantsur | any more new biz? | 16:09 |
| elmiko | do we have any idea about days for the ptg? | 16:10 |
| elmiko | i'm trying to be ahead of the game this time around | 16:10 |
| dtantsur | I suspect Monday. I also suspect that I'm not going this time. | 16:10 |
| edleafe | You mean the dates? | 16:10 |
| elmiko | no, more just what days would we have api sig sessions | 16:10 |
| edleafe | elmiko: just tell them that we will be meeting every day, so that you don't have to leave early | 16:11 |
| elmiko | i'd like to come if possible, i just don't think i can do the whole stretch | 16:11 |
| elmiko | LOL | 16:11 |
| elmiko | i wish | 16:11 |
| dtantsur | I guess we'll have to wait for the official process | 16:12 |
| elmiko | fair | 16:12 |
| elmiko | that's it from me | 16:12 |
| edleafe | elmiko: just plan on Mon-Tue | 16:12 |
| edleafe | It'll be one of those days for sure | 16:13 |
| dtantsur | yeah, it's unlikely to change | 16:13 |
| dtantsur | (until next year when everything gets messed up again) | 16:13 |
| elmiko | edleafe: that's kinda what i was thinking | 16:13 |
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| edleafe | When the process starts, we'll make sure it's when you can be there | 16:14 |
| cdent | I wouldn't be as sure about the structure of the ptg being what it was before | 16:14 |
| cdent | since it is now "anybody who contributes to openstack in any way", not project teams, it may need a different structure | 16:14 |
| dtantsur | cdent: I thought this one will still be boring, and theeeeen | 16:14 |
| dtantsur | hmmm | 16:15 |
| * dtantsur wants to just get everyone in one huge bar for 3 days. would solve all problems. | 16:15 | |
| elmiko | haha | 16:16 |
| cdent | It does seem like being snowed in is really useful | 16:16 |
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| elmiko | it worked for me, but i was pretty much just alone in my hotel XD | 16:16 |
| cdent | constraints are good | 16:16 |
| elmiko | ++ | 16:17 |
| dtantsur | we discussed the options for a social thing in Berlin with a local user group. get everyone wasted in a hangar was one of the options :D | 16:17 |
| dtantsur | on this positive note, ready to move on? | 16:18 |
| dtantsur | #topic guidelines | 16:18 |
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| dtantsur | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z | 16:18 |
| dtantsur | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-sig,n,z | 16:18 |
| * dtantsur wonders if the first link worked... | 16:18 | |
| dtantsur | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/577118/ Expand error code document to expect clarity | 16:19 |
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| dtantsur | I haven't read this yet, but the direction seems valid | 16:19 |
| cdent | i tried to duplicate what we said in irc | 16:19 |
| elmiko | me neither, but i will add it to my queue | 16:19 |
| cdent | but it may be incomplete | 16:19 |
| dtantsur | okay, I'll read it as well | 16:21 |
| dtantsur | I guess we can move on? | 16:22 |
| cdent | aye | 16:23 |
| dtantsur | don't think we have guidelines for freeze | 16:23 |
| edleafe | yup | 16:23 |
| dtantsur | #topic bug review | 16:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bug review (Meeting topic: api sig)" | 16:23 | |
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| dtantsur | so, the agenda still have lp links | 16:23 |
| * dtantsur checks previous minutes | 16:23 | |
| cdent | oh whoops, I meant to fix that | 16:23 |
| dtantsur | #action cdent to fix THAT | 16:24 |
| dtantsur | :D | 16:24 |
| edleafe | heh | 16:24 |
| dtantsur | #undo | 16:24 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #action cdent to fix THAT | 16:24 |
| edleafe | Actually, I should do that | 16:24 |
| edleafe | since I was doing all the renaming stuff | 16:24 |
| cdent | go for it | 16:24 |
| dtantsur | #action edleafe to update the agenda with storyboard links | 16:24 |
| cdent | I have a weekly todo to update the agenda and I ignored it this week | 16:24 |
| dtantsur | huzzah! | 16:24 |
| cdent | huzzah! | 16:25 |
| dtantsur | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/1039 | 16:25 |
| elmiko | i like how well huzzah has been integrated since the beginning of the meeting, well done team! | 16:26 |
| dtantsur | do we need an action item to rename it to api-sig? | 16:26 |
| dtantsur | \o/ | 16:26 |
| edleafe | dtantsur: that's already started | 16:26 |
| dtantsur | nice! | 16:26 |
| dtantsur | oh, sorry | 16:26 |
| dtantsur | huzzah! | 16:26 |
| edleafe | it should get done the next time that gerrit is taken down | 16:27 |
| dtantsur | and storyboard as well? | 16:27 |
| * cdent hopes gerrit stays down | 16:27 | |
| dtantsur | lol | 16:28 |
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| edleafe | dtantsur: they will rename all the things | 16:28 |
| dtantsur | RENAME ALL THE THINGS | 16:28 |
| cdent | even edleafe! huzzah! | 16:28 |
| * edleafe wonders what my new name will bwe | 16:29 | |
| edleafe | *be | 16:29 |
| dtantsur | so, I guess we're ready for our favourite part? | 16:29 |
| dtantsur | since no bugs seem any new | 16:29 |
| dtantsur | #topic weekly newsletter | 16:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "weekly newsletter (Meeting topic: api sig)" | 16:29 | |
| dtantsur | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-newsletter | 16:29 |
| * cdent is still on the phone and also sitll in office hours, so step backwards | 16:29 | |
| edleafe | I did last week | 16:29 |
| elmiko | i can take it | 16:29 |
| dtantsur | elmiko: great! thanks | 16:30 |
| * dtantsur needs beer quite urgently | 16:30 | |
| cdent | thanks elmiko, huzzah! | 16:30 |
| elmiko | will ping in sdks when it's ready | 16:30 |
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| edleafe | kewl | 16:30 |
| dtantsur | anything else? :) | 16:30 |
| dtantsur | we have 30 minutes in case we want to mock each other for longer | 16:30 |
| cdent | :) | 16:30 |
| edleafe | huzzah! | 16:31 |
| dtantsur | indeed :) | 16:31 |
| dtantsur | thanks all | 16:31 |
| dtantsur | #endmeeting | 16:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:32 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 21 16:32:00 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-06-21-16.00.html | 16:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-06-21-16.00.txt | 16:32 |
| cdent | thanks dtantsur | 16:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-06-21-16.00.log.html | 16:32 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting networking_policy | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 21 18:00:51 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_policy)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_policy' | 18:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | not much of an agenda today | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | will just wait here for sometime to see if anyone wants to join | 18:01 |
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| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: howdy | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: hi | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks for joining | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | not much agenda at my end :-) | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | just hanging out here in case any one else wants to join | 18:11 |
| tbachman | k | 18:11 |
| tbachman | I’ve been helping Skyraven and pco on IRC a bit, on and off | 18:12 |
| tbachman | I should mention our meeting to them | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: great thanks | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | if you get a chance you can take a look at: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:apic_kube_ext+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i also noticed you just posted a patch | 18:13 |
| tbachman | yeah | 18:13 |
| tbachman | definitely WIP | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: okay | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think it will also help to do system testing to make sure that behavior of the baked queries is as expected | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i meant to say doing system testing upfront | 18:14 |
| tbachman | k | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | (there are not undesirable caching implications) | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *no | 18:15 |
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| tbachman | ack | 18:15 |
| tbachman | it’s easy to rewrite that stuff | 18:15 |
| tbachman | SumitNaiksatam: I’m seeing some weirdness wrt caching of info in the session identity map | 18:16 |
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| tbachman | I had to add an expunge_all() in order to get the right state | 18:16 |
| tbachman | which shouldn’t be needed, afaik | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | argh | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | neutron does use it in places, but that is mostly to override standard behavior | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | when we have to do it gratuitously, it does indicate some issues | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | of course, i am stating the obvious here | 18:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i dont think anyone else is joining | 18:27 |
| tbachman | ack | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so i will wrap up the meeting | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | tbachman: thanks for stopping by ;-) | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 18:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 18:27 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 21 18:27:49 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2018/networking_policy.2018-06-21-18.00.html | 18:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2018/networking_policy.2018-06-21-18.00.txt | 18:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_policy/2018/networking_policy.2018-06-21-18.00.log.html | 18:27 |
| tbachman | np! | 18:28 |
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