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| raildo | #startmeeting oslo-config-plaintext-secrets | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 26 15:00:37 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is raildo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo-config-plaintext-secrets)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo_config_plaintext_secrets' | 15:00 |
| moguimar | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-config-plaintext-secrets | 15:00 |
| raildo | o/ | 15:01 |
| raildo | courtesy ping for dhellmann, redrobot, bnemec | 15:01 |
| redrobot | o/ | 15:01 |
| redrobot | \o | 15:01 |
| redrobot | o/ | 15:01 |
| redrobot | \o/ | 15:02 |
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| moguimar | redrobot: are you trying to dance axé? | 15:02 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 15:02 |
| redrobot | haha, something like that moguimar | 15:02 |
| spilla | o/ | 15:02 |
| raildo | hello everyone, I think we are good to start :) | 15:03 |
| raildo | #topic Issues with the separate cache for external sources | 15:03 |
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| raildo | ok, so I'm trying to implement the new cache for the driver that point for external sources | 15:03 |
| raildo | but I'm having problems to distinguish between a value from the external source or from the ini file at the get method over cfg | 15:04 |
| raildo | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.config/blob/1319cfb476ddd3c00030f088d42f4b0045f33b0a/oslo_config/cfg.py#L2940-L2952 | 15:04 |
| raildo | looks like we will be able to get the map between source - value over https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554316/16/oslo_config/cfg.py (line 3079) | 15:05 |
| raildo | I think that the LocationInfo would help with that but I didn't get luck with that, someone can help me on this task? | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | it may be easier to manage that cache in a different place | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | we know that the only place we ask sources for config values is in the new _do_get() around line 3078 : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554316/16/oslo_config/cfg.py | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | so we could add values to the new cache there | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | oh, sorry, that's the same line you pointed to :-) | 15:07 |
| dhellmann | why do you need the location info there? | 15:07 |
| raildo | dhellmann, yeah, that what I was trying to do | 15:07 |
| dhellmann | we know the values are coming from a source there because that's the loop where we ask the sources for values. so we don't need the location info details, right? | 15:07 |
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| raildo | dhellmann, so, it will be easy just add the values in that source over the new cache, but I guess that we still need to double check that over the get? | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | then up in _get() we can check the separate cache | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 15:08 |
| raildo | so, we can create the new cache over the _do_get() and just check if the value is over this cache in the get() method | 15:09 |
| raildo | ok, I'll do that :) | 15:09 |
| raildo | thanks dhellmann | 15:09 |
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| raildo | #topic documentation | 15:10 |
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| moguimar | I'm always asking myself again why are we having this cache stuff | 15:10 |
| moguimar | We have a disclaimer in the docs | 15:10 |
| moguimar | can we add some 'why'? | 15:10 |
| raildo | moguimar, because we are not making this values that come from the external sources mutable | 15:11 |
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| raildo | so, we need to make sure that we are having the proper value, if someone try to change those values later | 15:11 |
| moguimar | that is now a why, that is a what we are doing | 15:11 |
| moguimar | I'll dig on the meeting logs | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | we want to enforce the immutable disclaimer we have documented | 15:12 |
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| dhellmann | otherwise users may have surprising behavior, because immutable options behave mutably | 15:12 |
| raildo | moguimar, is that more clear for you? | 15:13 |
| moguimar | thanks dhellmann | 15:13 |
| moguimar | yup | 15:13 |
| raildo | great | 15:13 |
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| moguimar | I made some updates to the docs today | 15:14 |
| raildo | so, about the documentation, it's just an update that moguimar sent a new patch set today (thanks Moises!) | 15:14 |
| raildo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576947 | 15:14 |
| raildo | btw, for test this, you just need to run $tox -edocs and will generate the html page over the docs/build path | 15:16 |
| moguimar | I added some sessions | 15:16 |
| moguimar | the html is looking nice =D | 15:17 |
| raildo | so, reviews are appreciated :) | 15:17 |
| moguimar | But I get what dhellmann said, we need later to separate developer/user guides | 15:17 |
| raildo | agreed | 15:18 |
| raildo | #topic Open discussion | 15:18 |
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| raildo | that all that I have for today, anything else? | 15:19 |
| moguimar | dhellmann: there is one comment of yours about the driver option | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | yes | 15:19 |
| moguimar | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575107/5/oslo_config/sources/_uri.py | 15:19 |
| moguimar | this one | 15:19 |
| moguimar | the option is not registered by the driver class, it is just there for sample generation with the specific value | 15:20 |
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| dhellmann | ideally that option would match the one ConfigOpts actually uses | 15:20 |
| moguimar | I'm using choices at ConfigOpts | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | although I like having the sample_default set to show the name of the driver for the group | 15:21 |
| moguimar | like you suggested | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | ok, good | 15:21 |
| moguimar | that's what I did, the sample_default points to the required value | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 15:21 |
| moguimar | should we move the driver name to a variable and reuse it? | 15:22 |
| dhellmann | did you move the driver_opt to list_opts()? | 15:23 |
| dhellmann | if so, there's already a variable with the name there | 15:23 |
| dhellmann | in the loop | 15:23 |
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| raildo | enjoying the remaining minutes that we have here, redrobot do you have any updates about that we discuss in the tripleo meeting? like about HA vault, or choosing between the options for the vault backend? | 15:24 |
| moguimar | to my calculations, we only have the cache to be done by raildo and reviews on all the other tasks | 15:25 |
| moguimar | next week I'll be on PTO/holidays | 15:26 |
| raildo | moguimar, ++ | 15:26 |
| moguimar | are we able to close Phase 0 this week? | 15:26 |
| raildo | I hope so :) | 15:26 |
| dhellmann | you all may be interested in this other spec from cdent: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576860/ | 15:26 |
| raildo | dhellmann, thanks for pointing that, I'll review it today | 15:27 |
| raildo | #action all review the spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576860/ | 15:27 |
| raildo | anything else folks? | 15:28 |
| moguimar | not on my end, I'm only waiting for reviews now | 15:28 |
| moguimar | if you're able to push some cache stuff today, I can review/test it tomorrow raildo | 15:29 |
| dhellmann | I will watch for the updated version of moguimar's patch and the cache work and try to review those today/tomorrow | 15:29 |
| raildo | I have a few meetings today, but I hope to have some free time to finish that today | 15:29 |
| raildo | in the worst case, I'll send a WIP patch | 15:29 |
| redrobot | o/ | 15:29 |
| redrobot | sorry yeah, | 15:30 |
| raildo | redrobot, hey :) | 15:30 |
| moguimar | dhellmann: fastest way to do it I think is get the latest version and try the sample generator and also see the HTML docks | 15:30 |
| redrobot | not sure what we want to talk about in this meeting vs tripleo | 15:30 |
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| redrobot | Vault open source does have HA options | 15:30 |
| dhellmann | moguimar : sure | 15:30 |
| raildo | redrobot, basically the same thing :) | 15:30 |
| redrobot | but they require an ha-enabled backend | 15:30 |
| redrobot | HA == A single master + X hot-standby nodes | 15:31 |
| raildo | redrobot, so, doesn't make sense to go for mysql, as ozz have suggested? | 15:31 |
| redrobot | well, we could use mysql for storage | 15:32 |
| redrobot | so you can actually define a separate storage backend from the ha-backend | 15:32 |
| moguimar | vault doesn't handles storage | 15:32 |
| redrobot | but we'd still need etcd to be the ha-backend | 15:32 |
| raildo | got it | 15:32 |
| moguimar | vault is kinda in the midle to encrypt/decrypt stuff | 15:33 |
| redrobot | I took some notes: | 15:33 |
| moguimar | cpu and network io only probably | 15:33 |
| redrobot | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/production-vault | 15:33 |
| raildo | thanks redrobot, so we can dig into this notes and talk about that next week | 15:33 |
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| redrobot | moguimar, yup... with the option to have hot standby nodes. | 15:34 |
| moguimar | exactly | 15:34 |
| raildo | I don't want to take more time for all of you guys :) | 15:34 |
| moguimar | I'm cool, you can end it | 15:34 |
| raildo | so, have a good week everyone! | 15:35 |
| moguimar | o/ | 15:35 |
| raildo | #endmeeting | 15:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:35 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 26 15:35:14 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo_config_plaintext_secrets/2018/oslo_config_plaintext_secrets.2018-06-26-15.00.html | 15:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo_config_plaintext_secrets/2018/oslo_config_plaintext_secrets.2018-06-26-15.00.txt | 15:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo_config_plaintext_secrets/2018/oslo_config_plaintext_secrets.2018-06-26-15.00.log.html | 15:35 |
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