Monday, 2018-08-27

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diablo_rojo#startmeeting openstack_upstream_institute20:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Aug 27 20:00:07 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is diablo_rojo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_upstream_institute'20:00
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diablo_rojoCourtesy pings: jaypipes ,bauzas, diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, jungleboyj, csatari, spotz, mtreinish, gmann, tonyb, masayukig, kmarc20:00
diablo_rojoIf you'd like to be added or removed from the list, it lives on our agenda here:20:00
diablo_rojo#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-upstream-institute-meetings OUI Agenda20:00
jungleboyjo/20:01
kmarcThanks for the ping! I wanna stay on the list 😊20:01
diablo_rojoOh good :) I'm not just talking to myself.20:01
diablo_rojoYay :) Two people!20:01
diablo_rojokmarc, no problem :)20:01
spotzo/20:01
jungleboyjYep.  And of course please leave me on the list.20:02
diablo_rojoI don't plan on changing it- just wanted to make sure everyone knew where I was getting it from in case they wanted to make changes or wondered why they didn't get pinged :)20:02
jungleboyj:-)  Do we still have to pay $300 for the Summit even with the ATC code?20:03
spotzdiablo_rojo: Don't feel bad no one showed for WoO last week and fungi showed for diversity after I'd called it20:03
diablo_rojoI thiiiiiink you get a summit pass if you go to the PTG.20:03
diablo_rojojungleboyj, ^^20:03
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo:  Ok, I thoguht so too but the way it is listed on event brite is confusing.  Let me see here.20:03
spotzjungleboyj: I think you'll get a code for the PTG?20:04
diablo_rojoI know codes will go out the week after the PTG for the summit.20:04
diablo_rojonot sure what the discount is- I want to say full pass, but I'm 100% sure on that one.20:04
diablo_rojoI think so though.20:04
diablo_rojoAnywho, lets get this party started shall we?20:04
diablo_rojo#topic OUI Around the World!20:04
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jungleboyjSounds good.20:05
diablo_rojoSo we had three trainings since our last real meeting I think.20:05
fungii think everyone's just overwhelmed with ptg prep20:05
diablo_rojoKorea, and then two in Brazil- Sao Paulo & Rio20:05
diablo_rojofungi, agreed20:05
fungidiablo_rojo: yes, 100% discount for ptg attendees20:06
spotzfungi!:)20:06
jungleboyjfungi: I will ping you over in Infra with my question.  :-)20:06
diablo_rojoKorea was good. Smaller group, but everyone was really involved. A few language barriers but everyone seemed to be pretty satisfied and pleased with how things went.20:06
fungifor dublin as well as denver attendees20:06
diablo_rojoSao Paulo and Rio were ENORMOUS.20:06
fungijungleboyj: you can always ask me infra questions20:06
diablo_rojo#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-institute-brazil-2018 Sao Paulo OSD Etherpad20:07
diablo_rojo#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-institute-rio-2018 Rio UFRJ OUI Etherpad20:07
diablo_rojoYou can look at the list of attendees for them.20:07
diablo_rojoPretty solidly stress tested the new format and it was delightfully scalable :)20:08
kmarcCool! What are the expectations to Berlin? And.... Is there gonna be any other OUIs until then?20:08
diablo_rojoIldiko and I were exhausted by the end but I think it went really well.20:08
jungleboyjCool.20:08
diablo_rojokmarc, yeah we have one more before then- OSD Nordics in Stockholm in October20:08
kmarcAhh... Too bad 😅20:08
diablo_rojoAny questions on how any of these went?20:09
kmarcI mean that's too close to Berlin. Meaning, geographically20:09
diablo_rojokmarc, hoping to follow ildikov and I somewhere?20:09
diablo_rojoShould have come to Brazil with us.20:09
diablo_rojoAny one have questions on how any of them went?20:10
spotzIf we can fit the image on our USB sticks we're going to use part of OUI at grace hopper this year20:10
diablo_rojospotz, you don't have like a 8 or 16 gb flash drive?20:10
kmarcYeah, I'd be interested if you could summarize what went well, what should we pay more attention to, etc.20:10
jungleboyjspotz:  Nice.20:10
diablo_rojokmarc, sure.20:10
jungleboyjkmarc: ++20:10
diablo_rojoSo, I think one of things we focused on a lot was talking more slowly and making sure to go over every single exercise to make sure people were getting everything.20:11
jungleboyjDid kmarc 's images continue to work well?20:11
spotzdiablo_rojo: They bought 2 GB ones, so I'm not sure what where're going to be able to do. Might have them DL ahead of time as a pre-req20:11
diablo_rojoYeah.20:11
diablo_rojoThe only issues we had were networking things- firewalls on the wifi blocking IRC20:11
jungleboyjGood.  Yeah, talking slower makes sense.20:11
jungleboyjWeird.  Ok.20:12
diablo_rojoand virtualization not being enabled on a few company laptops20:12
diablo_rojojungleboyj, yeah it was a campus network so I guess they had it locked down.20:12
kmarc#facepalm20:12
diablo_rojoAnother thing we tried was having the student put links in the etherpad and collectively building a resource list to refer back to20:13
diablo_rojoThat was pretty cool.20:13
diablo_rojoUmmm few language barriers in Brazil too, but there were a lot of people willing to help translate so that was nice.20:13
jungleboyjOh, that is cool.  So where they found things they needed?20:13
diablo_rojoPeople are still super scared about giving negative feedback.20:13
kmarcI guess in Sweden and Germany the language barrier would be less of a problem20:13
diablo_rojojungleboyj, in the rio etherpad you can see where they just built out a list of links20:14
jungleboyjAh, nice.20:14
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diablo_rojoOne other cool thing is that in Rio we were able to get two students real patches merged- complete with a sb story creation and a launchpad bug.20:14
jungleboyjHow did the quiz go for those sessions?20:14
diablo_rojoSo two people walked away with ATC status20:15
jungleboyjNice.20:15
* diablo_rojo tries to remember20:15
diablo_rojoWe did the quiz in Rio because it was a two day thing- the OUIs in Sao Paulo and Korea were only one day so there was no quiz20:15
jungleboyjOk.  Something we want to keep in Berlin you think?20:16
diablo_rojoThe quiz in Rio went better though because we made it shorter.20:16
diablo_rojoAnd we wrote a little tougher questions to make sure people were understanding rather than just hunting for arbitrary things.20:16
diablo_rojojungleboyj, yeah I think we should keep it.20:16
* kmarc needs to update himself on the quiz thingy 20:16
diablo_rojoDo something similar to what we did in Rio20:17
diablo_rojokmarc, I think the link is still in the Rio etherpad20:17
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo:  There is.20:17
diablo_rojoOkay. Any other questions?20:17
kmarcThx, will do my research20:17
diablo_rojo:)20:17
jungleboyjkmarc:  We did it on the second day in Vancouver too.20:17
diablo_rojoI'll move on if there aren't other questions :)20:18
jungleboyjWell, all sounds good.20:18
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diablo_rojoYeah it definitely went well.20:18
kmarcjungleboyj Yeah I know but our growing bromance were distracting us 🤣20:18
diablo_rojo#topic Berlin OUI20:19
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jungleboyjkmarc:  I had no idea I was so distracting.  ;-)20:19
diablo_rojoSo, firstly, thanks jungleboyj and Lenovo for sponsoring it once again.20:19
jungleboyj\o/20:19
jungleboyjWelcome.  Glad to do it.20:19
diablo_rojo#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Upstream+Institute Berlin Schedule20:19
diablo_rojoPlease start promoting it however you see fit now that its live on the schedule as well :)20:20
diablo_rojoI plan to tweet about it and get the OS handle to do the same20:20
spotzI think the board meeting is only going to be part of the day this time so I should be able to help some the sedcond day too20:21
diablo_rojoIt will be Sunday and Monday this round since the Summit doesn't start till Tuesday.20:21
diablo_rojospotz, yeah I think thats correct20:21
diablo_rojoHopefully won't obstruct quite as much as it has in the past.20:21
diablo_rojoThe etherpad has already been created as well.20:22
diablo_rojofor the training20:22
diablo_rojo#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-institute-berlin-2018 Berlin OUI Etherpad20:22
diablo_rojoSo please add your name if you can be a mentor :)20:22
spotzdone20:23
diablo_rojoThanks spotz :)20:23
jungleboyjDone20:23
diablo_rojoUmmm... trying to think if there is anything else on this topic right now..20:23
diablo_rojojungleboyj, cool :)20:23
diablo_rojoAnyone else got anything on OUI in Berlin?20:24
kmarcWe plan to start Sunday afternoon right?20:24
jungleboyjI don't think so right now.20:24
jungleboyjHave you changed the material much since Vancouver?20:25
diablo_rojokmarc, correct. Sunday afternoon and all day Monday.20:25
diablo_rojojungleboyj, little bits here and there. Tried to bring the Training Guides sections into parity with the contributor guide for cross linking20:25
diablo_rojoNot a ton of new content has been added to the guide20:25
diablo_rojo#topic In Progress Work20:26
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jungleboyjOk.20:26
diablo_rojo#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/training-guides+status:open Training Guides Open Reviews20:26
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diablo_rojo#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/contributor-guide+status:open Contributor Guide Open Reviews20:26
diablo_rojoNot a ton in either repo20:26
diablo_rojobut there are a couple20:26
diablo_rojoI have one in the training guides that I need to respond to some comments on20:27
diablo_rojoIf you're interesting in helping out with a patch here or there we still have some open items in the contributor guie20:27
diablo_rojoguide20:27
diablo_rojo#link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/913 Contrib Guide SB20:27
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diablo_rojoI imagine there are typos that we still have to clean up that don't have stories for them20:29
diablo_rojoShould probably check all the links too20:29
jungleboyj:-)  Hope after the PTG to have some time to get back to stuff like that.20:30
diablo_rojoYeah I think we are all in PTG prep mode now20:30
jungleboyj:-)20:30
diablo_rojoAny other comments here?20:30
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diablo_rojo#topic Open Discussion20:32
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diablo_rojoSo one other fun thing I have been talking through with jamesmcarthur_ in my oodles of spare time is adding the OUI logo to people that have 'graduated' from it to their foundation member profiles. I just need to spend an hour compiling attendance lists into a yaml.20:33
* diablo_rojo says oodles of spare time with immense sarcasm20:34
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo:  Oh that is kind of cool.20:34
diablo_rojoYeah- they already do similar for the COA20:34
spotzcool20:34
diablo_rojoI figured why not?20:34
jungleboyjDo the OUI trainers get anything?  :-)20:35
diablo_rojoWould also then maybe be a little easier to pull contribution info for those that have the flag set in their profiles20:35
spotzwe'll have to sign up as students:)20:35
jungleboyjspotz:  :-)20:35
diablo_rojojungleboyj, I suppose we could have it too.20:35
diablo_rojoI honestly was thinking about getting it embroidered on a sweater20:35
spotzWe gotta get them all!20:35
jungleboyjI like the OUI logo.  :-)20:35
* diablo_rojo is a nerd and secretly kinda misses uniforms some days20:36
kmarcLOL20:36
* jungleboyj isn't surprised20:36
* diablo_rojo wears a slytherin sweater with pride, why not an OUI one?20:36
jungleboyj:-)20:36
diablo_rojoIf we wanted to get polos or hoodies or tshirts or something..its something to look into20:37
jungleboyjHmmm, maybe I will have to see if I can get Lenovo to get us shirts or something for the next one with the Logo.20:37
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo:  ++20:37
jungleboyjJinx20:37
diablo_rojojungleboyj, +2 +W20:37
spotzooohhhhh20:37
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jungleboyjdiablo_rojo:  If you can look into getting them made and cost I can take it to Teri.20:38
tonybshirts!20:38
diablo_rojoI could do that. What sort of garment are we thinking?20:38
jungleboyjAssuming that the Foundation has connectings there.20:38
jungleboyjI am partial to Polo shirts.20:38
jungleboyjI know, surprising.20:38
diablo_rojotonyb, lol you show up when there is talk of swag :P20:38
jungleboyjThough I do love hoodies too.20:39
jungleboyjI noticed that.20:39
tonyb<- has a talent20:39
diablo_rojojungleboyj, not sure about connections but I can look into it20:39
diablo_rojotonyb, like a spidey sense but with swag20:39
tonybswag-sense20:39
diablo_rojoSounds way less cool than spidey sense, but much more practical?20:40
jungleboyj:-)20:40
spotzI like swag:)20:40
diablo_rojoAnywho. Will look into that and see what I can find out.20:41
diablo_rojoAnything else for Open Discussion?20:41
spotzHoodies would be nice though, could wear them all week...20:41
jungleboyjOk, let me know what you find out.  I will send out a feeler on my side to see what kind of money we could get.20:41
jungleboyjspotz:  I suppose it will be cooler over there.20:41
spotzOn the plus side there's not a ton of us...20:42
spotzjungleboyj: I was thinking even in the cold rooms!20:42
diablo_rojospotz, could be a plus, might not.. generally you only get discounts for bulk20:42
spotztrue20:43
diablo_rojoI got nothing else, but I will leave it open for a little while in case someone else pops in.20:43
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kmarcI know it's early but please squeeze in an OUI hangouts meeting around 3 weeks before the summit20:48
spotzhehe, OUI PUI Buguette20:49
kmarcI think it's always helpful and brings everyone to the same understanding of what we all and how do20:49
diablo_rojokmarc, yeah I think after the PTG maybe we can get that doodle poll out20:49
diablo_rojokmarc, +220:49
jamesmcarthur_diablo_rojo: I will implement this change with my oodles of spare time ;)20:50
diablo_rojojamesmcarthur_, you and me both, just slacking away ;)20:50
diablo_rojoOkay I thiiiink I'm gonna call it.20:51
diablo_rojoGoing once...20:51
diablo_rojoGoing twice...20:52
diablo_rojoThanks everyone!20:52
kmarcThanks for the updates!20:52
diablo_rojo#endmeeting20:52
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diablo_rojoMy pleasure :)20:53
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spotzthanks diablo_rojo20:55
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diablo_rojospotz, no problem21:10
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