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| tellesnobrega | #startmeeting sahara | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 30 14:00:33 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tellesnobrega. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 14:00 |
| tellesnobrega | show off hands | 14:01 |
| jeremyfreudberg | o/ | 14:01 |
| tosky | o/ | 14:03 |
| tellesnobrega | #topics News/Updates | 14:03 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic News/Updates | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "News/Updates (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:03 | |
| tosky | still slowly working on S3 testing, not visible so much but expect a big bang patch soon | 14:04 |
| tellesnobrega | I'm still working on split plugins | 14:05 |
| tellesnobrega | now I'm down to 22 bugs failing on the plugins side | 14:05 |
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| tellesnobrega | of course that number may rise again when I rebase again the code | 14:06 |
| tellesnobrega | but it is looking good | 14:06 |
| jeremyfreudberg | not much from me again, always a bit slow in between cycles... i've been in contact with the new contributor (ivoline) some more (over email) | 14:06 |
| tellesnobrega | awesome, she just sent me an email as well | 14:07 |
| tellesnobrega | we should come up with a list of task (easy ones at first) | 14:07 |
| tellesnobrega | so she can start contributing | 14:07 |
| jeremyfreudberg | getting her up to speed has been interesting so far -- our new contributor guides don't really adress the case where the someone has never used openstack before | 14:07 |
| tellesnobrega | I believe that are some openstack guides on that | 14:08 |
| tellesnobrega | I mean, we can't be responsible to have on sahara docs everything from openstack as a whole | 14:08 |
| tellesnobrega | we could add some links for sure | 14:08 |
| tellesnobrega | like, if this is your firts time hearing about OpenStack start here | 14:09 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yes, of course-- the openstack-wide guides are a bit better | 14:09 |
| tosky | in fact there is the general contributor documentation for openstack | 14:09 |
| tosky | and I think we point to it (or we should, if we don't) | 14:09 |
| tellesnobrega | lets check that | 14:10 |
| jeremyfreudberg | they sort-of jump from "here's a working devstack" to "here's how to start developing" | 14:10 |
| tellesnobrega | it is worth a review for sure | 14:11 |
| tosky | talking about initial tasks, does "go through the documentatio and fix it" make sense as task? | 14:11 |
| tellesnobrega | it does for sure but I also like to throw some coding | 14:11 |
| jeremyfreudberg | depends on the type of doc fix | 14:11 |
| tellesnobrega | review and fixing doc might not be something really interesting | 14:11 |
| tellesnobrega | and might drive people away | 14:12 |
| tosky | ok | 14:12 |
| tellesnobrega | but we can balance that | 14:12 |
| tosky | but at least she will need to go through the documentation to install it and use it | 14:12 |
| tellesnobrega | because reading docs it is a good way to get some insight on the code | 14:12 |
| tellesnobrega | yes | 14:12 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i keep losing the link to our doc problmes etherpad btw | 14:13 |
| jeremyfreudberg | anyone have it handy? | 14:13 |
| tellesnobrega | usually luigi has it all | 14:13 |
| tellesnobrega | if he doesn't, then it is lost forever | 14:14 |
| tosky | isn't it linked from the Stein PTG document? | 14:14 |
| jeremyfreudberg | tosky: oh, and i put it there | 14:14 |
| tellesnobrega | as I said, luigi knows it all | 14:15 |
| tosky | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-rocky-doc | 14:15 |
| tellesnobrega | we can definitely start on that | 14:15 |
| tellesnobrega | and bring her up to speed with these etherpads as well | 14:16 |
| tellesnobrega | and work up from there | 14:16 |
| tellesnobrega | I want to move to another topic, quicl | 14:16 |
| tellesnobrega | and we can come back if needed on open discussion | 14:16 |
| jeremyfreudberg | sure | 14:16 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic Stein PTG | 14:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stein PTG (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:16 | |
| tellesnobrega | so, we are gettting close to the PTG | 14:17 |
| tellesnobrega | I want to ask that we take some time this coming week to prepare ourselves on important topics like adding Hawq to Ambari | 14:17 |
| tellesnobrega | and Phoenix to vanilla | 14:17 |
| tellesnobrega | so we can make the best of our ptg time | 14:17 |
| tellesnobrega | also, please review the etherpad, see if there is anything missing | 14:18 |
| tosky | is Phoenix supported by some of the existing distributions? | 14:18 |
| tellesnobrega | that is why I mean we need to take some time to look into it, I don't have a clue | 14:18 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i believe hortonworks has phoenix | 14:18 |
| tellesnobrega | so better basic understanding will give us good discussions | 14:18 |
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| tellesnobrega | that was pretty much all on this topic | 14:19 |
| tellesnobrega | I'm quite happy with the topics we have, but we may have more | 14:19 |
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| tellesnobrega | I will take a look on old etherpads as well to bring up some important topics that we could have missed | 14:20 |
| tellesnobrega | ok, any specific topics for today? | 14:22 |
| jeremyfreudberg | nope | 14:24 |
| tellesnobrega | tosky? | 14:25 |
| tosky | if you merge this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/595786/ I can cut a new sahara-tests release | 14:26 |
| tosky | even without S3 scenario support | 14:26 |
| jeremyfreudberg | sure | 14:26 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic Open Discussion | 14:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:27 | |
| jeremyfreudberg | tellesnobrega: just to make sure we don't duplicate the work-- did ivoline email you about the same thing as me? she emailed me about some instructions about the CLI tools in the ops guide | 14:27 |
| tellesnobrega | no, she was asking some guidelines for opensource work | 14:28 |
| jeremyfreudberg | cool | 14:28 |
| tellesnobrega | we have a 5 minutes silence window | 14:33 |
| tellesnobrega | so lets close for today and we get 36 minutes back | 14:33 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yep | 14:33 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks all | 14:33 |
| tellesnobrega | again, please review ptg etherpad and read on some of the new ideas so we can make the most of the 2 days we have face to face | 14:34 |
| tellesnobrega | see you all next week | 14:34 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks | 14:34 |
| tosky | bye! | 14:34 |
| tellesnobrega | #endmeeting | 14:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:34 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 30 14:34:42 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-08-30-14.00.html | 14:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-08-30-14.00.txt | 14:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-08-30-14.00.log.html | 14:34 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 30 15:00:13 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
| manjeets | hi | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | hey haleyb | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | hi manjeets | 15:00 |
| munimeha1 | hi | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | welcome munimeha1 | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | munimeha1: do you have a topic you want to discuss during the meeting? | 15:01 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:02 | |
| njohnston | o/ | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | Yesterday we released Rocky: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/597529/ | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | so for all practical purposes, we can think we are in the Stein cycle | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | welcome to Stein! | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | The PTG is a little more than a week away | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | I am consolidating all the proposed topics in a coherent agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-stein-ptg | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | manjeets: are you joininh the team dinner on Thursday? | 15:05 |
| manjeets | mlavalle, yes | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | manjeets: so add a Yes at the end of the line where your name is in the etherpad | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | any other announcements from the team? | 15:07 |
| manjeets | done | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's mlove on | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | yeah, let's love on | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 15:07 |
| manjeets | lol | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:08 | |
| mlavalle | First I have for today is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1788006 | 15:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1788006 in neutron "neutron_tempest_plugin DNS integration tests fail with "Server [UUID] failed to reach ACTIVE status and task state "None" within the required time ([INTEGER] s). Current status: BUILD. Current task state: spawning."" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | I investigated this one and couldn't find anything wrong on the Neutron side | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | I traced it back to Nova. The compute receives the vif plugged event correctly from Neutron | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | but that doesn't propagate to the Nova API, so the instance stays stuck in state "spawning" | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | I opened a bug in the NOva side | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | however, during the CI a meeting slaweq pointed out that it was weird that this is happening in DNS integration tests only | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | so I am digging in other cases | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1789434 | 15:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1789434 in neutron "neutron_tempest_plugin.scenario.test_migration.NetworkMigrationFromHA failing 100% times" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | I had fight hard with haleyb to get ownership of this bug | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | I finally prevailed ;-) | 15:12 |
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| njohnston | LOL | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | as shared yesterday with manjeets and hongbin yesterday, I know have a vagrabt script where I can build dvr-ha environments in 50 minutes | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | so I am going to attemopt to reporduce this issue locally in my environment today | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | Finally, I am looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1787919 | 15:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1787919 in neutron "Upgrade router to L3 HA broke IPv6" [High,Confirmed] | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | I just assigned it to myself | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | and will also reproduce locally in my environment | 15:15 |
| haleyb | that looks interesting | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | in this case there are notes from hongbin on how to reproduce locally | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | \so I'll follow the recipe | 15:16 |
| haleyb | like baking a cake :) | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | we have this critical one https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1788185 | 15:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1788185 in neutron "[Stable/Queens] Functional tests neutron.tests.functional.agent.l3.test_ha_router failing 100% times " [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | really the assignee here is slaweq | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | he has been working on the issue for the past few days | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | fixes were fixed for Ocata and Queens. I will follow up at the end of this meeting with slaweq to see where we are | 15:20 |
| haleyb | i think there's still an ocata backport? but maybe it's still broken after reading the last comments? | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | that last comment gave me pause | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | I'll check with slaweq to see what he thinks | 15:20 |
| haleyb | i thought i saw a strange HA func test failure today, maybe that's related | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | Those are the bugs I have at this point | 15:21 |
| haleyb | there is another | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | are there any other bugs we should discuss today? | 15:21 |
| haleyb | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1789403 | 15:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1789403 in neutron "ip6tables rules for PD subnets not fully recreated at l3-agent restart" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:22 |
| haleyb | posted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/597710/ - just got an update that it seems to fix the issue | 15:22 |
| haleyb | that was the one that had the odd test failure | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | ahhh, ok | 15:23 |
| haleyb | http://logs.openstack.org/10/597710/1/check/neutron-functional/9d0610b/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 15:23 |
| slaweq | hi, sorry for being late :) | 15:23 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: so i didn't know if it was my code, or keepalived | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | I can run that test locally. I'll let you know if it fails | 15:24 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: thanks | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | hi slaweq. I was worried that you migh have been eaten by the python ;-) | 15:25 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: LOL, no | 15:25 |
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| slaweq | I eat python :D | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | you do | 15:25 |
| mlavalle | we were wondering about the status of https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1788185 | 15:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1788185 in neutron "[Stable/Queens] Functional tests neutron.tests.functional.agent.l3.test_ha_router failing 100% times " [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:26 |
| slaweq | workaround patches for Queens and Ocata are merged | 15:26 |
| slaweq | there is still not merged patch for Pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/596559/ | 15:26 |
| slaweq | but yesterday frickler was playing a bit with it and he had some comments about keepalived version | 15:27 |
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| mlavalle | exactly, that is really my question | 15:27 |
| slaweq | for him it looks like old keepalived was behaving wrong and we tested this wrong behaviour as good one | 15:27 |
| slaweq | I will have to check that once again | 15:27 |
| slaweq | and also strange thing is that on newer keepalived (1.3.9) test is fine | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | is it ok if I assign the bug to you? | 15:29 |
| slaweq | sure | 15:29 |
| mlavalle | done | 15:29 |
| mlavalle | thanks! | 15:29 |
| mlavalle | any other bugs we should discuss today | 15:30 |
| haleyb | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1786272 | 15:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1786272 in neutron "Connection between two virtual routers does not work with DVR" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:30 |
| haleyb | it's only assigned to me since i updated the review, but i see new comments | 15:30 |
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| haleyb | slaweq made a change to schedule these shared-subnet DVR routers to allow traffic, but it requires more work | 15:31 |
| slaweq | I'm trying to do scenario test to cover such case today | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | so, should we change the assignee to slaweq? | 15:32 |
| slaweq | with such scenario test would be easier to be sure that patch works | 15:32 |
| haleyb | slaweq: looks like it's going to need an OF change ? | 15:32 |
| slaweq | locally I didn't do any changes in OF | 15:33 |
| slaweq | and tbh I don't think so | 15:33 |
| slaweq | basically if there is vm from "second" subnet on host, qrouter- will be created now, and all will work then | 15:33 |
| haleyb | oh, i thought from swami's comment it was needed | 15:33 |
| haleyb | maybe that was without your change... | 15:34 |
| slaweq | so if I will change logic of which qrouter namespaces should be created on node, it should do everything to be working | 15:34 |
| slaweq | but let's do test and check then on CI :) | 15:34 |
| * haleyb was just confused with comments | 15:34 | |
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| mlavalle | cool | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | any other bugs? | 15:35 |
| haleyb | we can re-assign, or just wait for slaweq to update and it will change to him :) | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's move to open agenda then | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open Agenda | 15:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Agenda (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:36 | |
| mlavalle | In building environment to test dvr-ha related bugs, I followed this recipe: https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/admin/config-dvr-ha-snat.html | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | and it referes in several place to br-ex | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | that is obsolete, isn't it? | 15:38 |
| davidsha | Not yet I think | 15:39 |
| davidsha | The patch still hasn't merged? | 15:39 |
| davidsha | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567369/ | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | ok, but it is in it's way to be obsolete | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | Thanks! | 15:41 |
| davidsha | np! | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | and that patch by the way fixes the doc | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | so we are good | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | any other topics we should discuss today? | 15:42 |
| mlavalle | ok, thanks for attending | 15:43 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:43 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 30 15:43:49 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-08-30-15.00.html | 15:43 |
| davidsha | Thanks! | 15:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-08-30-15.00.txt | 15:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-08-30-15.00.log.html | 15:43 |
| njohnston | Thanks! | 15:44 |
| slaweq | o/ | 15:45 |
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| cdent | #startmeeting api-sig | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 30 16:00:42 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: api-sig)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_sig' | 16:00 |
| cdent | #chairs edleafe dtantsur | 16:00 |
| cdent | or rather | 16:00 |
| cdent | #chair edleafe dtantsur | 16:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: cdent dtantsur edleafe | 16:01 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 16:01 |
| edleafe | \o | 16:01 |
| cdent | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-SIG#Agenda | 16:01 |
| cdent | #topic old biz | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "old biz (Meeting topic: api-sig)" | 16:01 | |
| cdent | #link old minutes http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-08-23-16.00.html | 16:01 |
| cdent | no action items | 16:01 |
| edleafe | Yay! We didn't not do the things we didn't have to do! | 16:02 |
| cdent | and the newletter indicates that not a lot happened | 16:02 |
| cdent | so any additional reflections? | 16:02 |
| edleafe | not from me | 16:02 |
| cdent | #topic new biz | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "new biz (Meeting topic: api-sig)" | 16:03 | |
| cdent | looks like I (nor anyone else) udpated the agenda | 16:03 |
| cdent | so it looks like there's no new biz | 16:04 |
| cdent | one idle thing I did want to mention, because it's come up in conversations I've had outside the upstream openstack conversation, is whether, from a philosophical standpoint | 16:05 |
| edleafe | There was a post tot he ML about Open API 3.0 | 16:05 |
| cdent | k8s CRD are awesome or the devils work | 16:05 |
| edleafe | Like most tech, they can be both | 16:05 |
| edleafe | Anything that is powerful can also be dangerous | 16:05 |
| cdent | yeah, pretty much | 16:06 |
| cdent | presumably they are antithetical to the "our" work, because they break interop, by definition | 16:07 |
| edleafe | They're like metaclasses in python: if you don't understand 'em, you don't need 'em | 16:07 |
| cdent | (unless you are one of those people who think that capabilities discover is an appropriate way to route around such things) | 16:07 |
| * dtantsur is out of context here | 16:07 | |
| cdent | #link CRD: https://kubernetes.io/docs/concepts/extend-kubernetes/api-extension/custom-resources/ | 16:08 |
| edleafe | Interop is not necesary unless you have a set of standard things | 16:08 |
| edleafe | OpenStack has discrete services. k8s doesn't | 16:09 |
| edleafe | well, theyt do, but it isn't intended to be everything | 16:09 |
| cdent | and therein lies the rub | 16:09 |
| cdent | company x can present the k8s-in-a-cloud solution, with some CRDs that will now not work with company u | 16:09 |
| cdent | some insiders are saying "it had to be done to help 'create a market' but it is going to be chaos' | 16:10 |
| dtantsur | ah, so extensions | 16:10 |
| cdent | effectively | 16:10 |
| edleafe | yep | 16:10 |
| cdent | so, for that standpoint they are an interesting compare and contrast I guess, and I suppose that's why I bring them up (besides just wanting to fill the dark void which is life) | 16:11 |
| edleafe | Speaking of dark voids... | 16:12 |
| edleafe | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-August/133960.html | 16:12 |
| cdent | #link open api 3.0 http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-August/133960.html | 16:12 |
| cdent | something I guess we need to track but I've not yet teased out the "ask" in that tread | 16:13 |
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| edleafe | I read the ask as "we need cheerleaders" | 16:13 |
| cdent | that makes everyone look to the right | 16:14 |
| cdent | is there anything to do? | 16:15 |
| cdent | by which I mean: any actions to put in the minutes? | 16:15 |
| edleafe | No, no actions. I'm mjust keeping an eye on it | 16:16 |
| cdent | #action edleafe keeping an eye on that open api 3.0 stuff | 16:17 |
| cdent | huzzah | 16:17 |
| cdent | anything else on the radar. dtantsur ? | 16:18 |
| dtantsur | nope | 16:18 |
| cdent | okay then, next topic | 16:20 |
| cdent | #topic guidelines | 16:20 |
| cdent | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-sig,n,z | 16:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "guidelines (Meeting topic: api-sig)" | 16:20 | |
| * edleafe and cdent are stuck in a -placement brouhaha | 16:20 | |
| dtantsur | huzzahaha | 16:21 |
| cdent | nothing new in guidelines as far as I can see? | 16:21 |
| edleafe | dtantsur: :) | 16:22 |
| cdent | I'm not going to be able to get back to the design guideline until after some of this placement stuff clears, as my mind is not right | 16:22 |
| cdent | everything else is old | 16:22 |
| cdent | however, it looks like some approved things can be moved around to get them to merge | 16:23 |
| dtantsur | we need to keep going with the version discovery stuff | 16:23 |
| dtantsur | we realized that ironic is doing it wrong, but we don't have a merged definition of "right" | 16:24 |
| dtantsur | see https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2003567 | 16:24 |
| cdent | ah, yeah | 16:24 |
| cdent | #action cdent reorder some of his pending guidelines which somehow have bad dependencies | 16:25 |
| cdent | mordred: you still want to care and feed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459710/ or should someone adopt it (and its peers)? | 16:26 |
| cdent | #action reinvigorate version discovery and consumption guidelines | 16:27 |
| cdent | anything else on guidelines? | 16:28 |
| cdent | #topic bug review | 16:29 |
| cdent | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/1039 | 16:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bug review (Meeting topic: api-sig)" | 16:29 | |
| cdent | nothing new, no activity that I can see | 16:29 |
| edleafe | me neither | 16:30 |
| dtantsur | we're perfect \o/ | 16:30 |
| cdent | heh | 16:30 |
| cdent | zen master says the way to be perfect is to be irrelevant | 16:30 |
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| edleafe | Guess I'm perfect then | 16:31 |
| cdent | huzzah | 16:31 |
| cdent | #topic weekly newsletter | 16:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "weekly newsletter (Meeting topic: api-sig)" | 16:31 | |
| cdent | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-newsletter | 16:31 |
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| cdent | anybody aching? | 16:31 |
| cdent | I guess it's been a while since I did it, so I'll make something terse and cold | 16:32 |
| edleafe | yeah, not a lot to report | 16:33 |
| cdent | I'll ping when I need a read | 16:33 |
| cdent | anybody have anything or are we done? Next week come prepared with your ptg planning head on please, so we can have a nice pleasant first day at the ptg, full of flowers and unicors and such. | 16:34 |
| edleafe | I'll pong | 16:34 |
| edleafe | No unicorns. | 16:34 |
| edleafe | I don't want to be distracted by farting rainbows | 16:35 |
| dtantsur | lol | 16:35 |
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| * cdent looks forward to whiteboards | 16:35 | |
| cdent | thanks for your participation and attendance | 16:35 |
| cdent | #endmeeting | 16:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 30 16:35:45 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-08-30-16.00.html | 16:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-08-30-16.00.txt | 16:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2018/api_sig.2018-08-30-16.00.log.html | 16:35 |
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