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| witek | #startmeeting monasca | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 10 15:01:12 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:01 |
| dougsz | Hi all | 15:01 |
| witek | hello dougsz | 15:01 |
| witek | agenda for today: | 15:01 |
| witek | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:02 |
| witek | just two of us? | 15:02 |
| dougsz | I guess so! | 15:02 |
| witek | let's start then | 15:02 |
| witek | #topic merge APIs spec | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "merge APIs spec (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:03 | |
| witek | thanks for the spec Doug | 15:03 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609055/1/specs/stein/merge_apis.rst | 15:03 |
| dougsz | np - there is probably a lot more to consider, but at least this should help start the discussion | 15:03 |
| witek | yes, having that up in review is very good | 15:04 |
| dougsz | Primarily I am worried about the time that it will take to implement it. | 15:04 |
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| witek | can we/should we split that job somehow? | 15:05 |
| witek | we could create a feature branch on monasca-api and work with smaller patches if that helps | 15:05 |
| dougsz | Yeah - I think that could be a good way to go. Or slowly add support and hide it behind a flag enable_unified_api or something | 15:07 |
| dougsz | I suppose the first thing to decide is whether it is good idea | 15:08 |
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| dougsz | I guess we can figure that out over the next few weeks when people have a chance to look at the spec. | 15:09 |
| witek | perhaps add section somewhere at the bottom, pros and cons | 15:10 |
| dougsz | sounds good | 15:10 |
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| witek | I think we should invest some time in this and next week and go through your document in detail | 15:11 |
| witek | I've added it to our board already | 15:12 |
| witek | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/111 | 15:12 |
| dougsz | great, thanks | 15:12 |
| witek | ok, thanks | 15:12 |
| witek | #topic reviews | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:13 | |
| witek | there are two changes in monasca-api for Python3 goal which hang there for some time already | 15:13 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/monasca-api+topic:python3-first+status:open | 15:13 |
| witek | I should probably also add this story to the board | 15:14 |
| witek | and the second one I wanted to mention is the prios page | 15:15 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/604722 | 15:15 |
| witek | would be good to merge it soon | 15:16 |
| dougsz | Just updated that one | 15:16 |
| witek | cool, thanks | 15:16 |
| witek | I've seen you also updated your change about built-in notifications schema update | 15:17 |
| dougsz | ah yeah | 15:17 |
| dougsz | Would be nice to add some tests, but it seems to work ok | 15:18 |
| witek | having that one we can start merging all the other bugfixes in monasca-notification | 15:18 |
| dougsz | yeah, that's where i'm coming from :) | 15:19 |
| witek | nice | 15:19 |
| dougsz | It will be nice to clean that up | 15:19 |
| witek | yes, very good | 15:20 |
| witek | just for reference, here the schema change: | 15:20 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/603648 | 15:20 |
| witek | and our bugs board: | 15:20 |
| witek | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/114 | 15:20 |
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| witek | do we have anything else for today? | 15:21 |
| dougsz | I think that's all from me. | 15:22 |
| witek | it would be good to make progress on another spec we have | 15:22 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/583803 | 15:22 |
| witek | ok, thanks Doug | 15:23 |
| witek | see you next week | 15:23 |
| dougsz | I'll have a read | 15:23 |
| dougsz | thanks Witek | 15:23 |
| witek | and thanks for your contributions! :) | 15:23 |
| dougsz | np! yours too | 15:24 |
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| witek | #endmeeting | 15:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:24 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 10 15:24:15 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-10-10-15.01.html | 15:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-10-10-15.01.txt | 15:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-10-10-15.01.log.html | 15:24 |
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| eglute | #startmeeting interopwg | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 10 16:00:42 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'interopwg' | 16:00 |
| eglute | #chair hogepodge markvoelker | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker | 16:00 |
| eglute | #topic agenda | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:01 | |
| eglute | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropWhistler.20 | 16:01 |
| eglute | Hello everyone, raise your hand if you are here for interopwg meeting | 16:01 |
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| markvoelker | o/ | 16:01 |
| eglute | Hello Mark! | 16:02 |
| eglute | wonder if it is just the two of us here! | 16:02 |
| kgarloff1 | hi | 16:02 |
| markvoelker | hogepodge was on the community meeting a few minutes ago, may still be wrapping up from that | 16:02 |
| eglute | ah, ok. I missed that one | 16:02 |
| hogepodge | Slides from the meeting. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1YBiTNVidXh0dT22ezR-pD_rganRfGjo_KE-owegkFIM/edit?usp=sharing | 16:03 |
| eglute | thank you hogepodge! | 16:03 |
| hogepodge | Unfortunately, I didn't capture sound from the recording. Technical jitters. | 16:03 |
| eglute | bad tech days happen even to the best tech. | 16:04 |
| eglute | #topic gate job | 16:04 |
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| eglute | thanks for creating this. it was merged :) | 16:05 |
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| eglute | #topic guideline | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "guideline (Meeting topic: interopwg)" | 16:05 | |
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| eglute | i think we have all the changes in place for the next guideline, is that correct? Unless you think there will be more updates for neutron, keystone or swift? | 16:06 |
| markvoelker | I think we're good. I do still need to get a patch posted for the Heat add-on | 16:06 |
| markvoelker | But the main guideline I think is in good shape. | 16:06 |
| eglute | markvoelker are there going to be changes for heat add on? | 16:07 |
| garloff | In a customer discussion, I just noticed that we don't have nova availability-zone-list ... | 16:07 |
| markvoelker | Just moving advisory->required | 16:08 |
| garloff | aka GET /v2/$OS_PROJECT_ID/os-availability-zone/detail | 16:08 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker | 16:08 |
| markvoelker | garloff: No? https://github.com/openstack/interop/blob/master/next.json#L104 | 16:08 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 16:08 |
| garloff | markvoelker: Ah, so that's on the list already? Good. | 16:08 |
| markvoelker | YEs, since about a year ago looks like: https://github.com/openstack/interop/blob/master/next.json#L251-L273 | 16:09 |
| eglute | yes, it is in the 2018.02 guideline | 16:09 |
| garloff | Discoverability is kind of useful ... | 16:09 |
| eglute | garloff right, we try to cover the most used features | 16:10 |
| markvoelker | Discovery as in listing API versions/microversions, or something else? | 16:10 |
| garloff | I'll double-check ... | 16:10 |
| eglute | we still have a little time to re-score nova features if needed, but not too much time | 16:11 |
| eglute | Berlin is in 1 month! | 16:11 |
| eglute | anything else on the scoring? | 16:12 |
| eglute | hogepodge did you have a chance to confirm that there are no changes for keystone and swift? | 16:12 |
| garloff | I wonder how we passed 2017.09 then. So maybe a regression :-O | 16:13 |
| hogepodge | Oh, look at that, I'm a week off on my interop invite :-/ | 16:13 |
| hogepodge | eglute: no update | 16:13 |
| eglute | garloff you mean for your company? maybe an older guideline? | 16:14 |
| hogepodge | Let me verify before the week ends, I'll send up a patch if there are changes | 16:14 |
| eglute | hogepodge sorry. I sent out one yesterday? | 16:14 |
| eglute | hogepodge thanks! I assume that probably no changes | 16:14 |
| garloff | eglute: Yeah, I just saw nova availability-zone-list fail which made me wonder how such a basic thing might not be covered ... | 16:14 |
| eglute | garloff ah ok. maybe there is an unexpected feature (bug) on your side that is making it fail. | 16:15 |
| garloff | I'll check the tempest test -- sorry, did not want to derail the meeting | 16:17 |
| eglute | garloff no worries! | 16:17 |
| eglute | ok, anything else for the 2018.11 guideline? | 16:17 |
| eglute | cool, moving on then | 16:18 |
| eglute | #guideline frequency | 16:18 |
| eglute | I think we already talked some about this. What do you all think about moving to once a year for guidelines? I think we might need to take this discussion to the board as well, but most features are pretty stable now | 16:19 |
| hogepodge | +1 | 16:20 |
| markvoelker | I think it's a reasonable discussion to have with the Board since we're going to be meeting with hem in person in Berlin anyway. | 16:20 |
| garloff | +1 | 16:20 |
| hogepodge | If not a year, maybe 9 months. | 16:20 |
| garloff | I guess changes/innovation happen more strongly in projects not (yet?) covered by InterOp | 16:21 |
| eglute | ok, will take it to the board then | 16:22 |
| garloff | Question is how aggressivelywe want to standardize add-on guidelines ... | 16:22 |
| hogepodge | This is actually something I do think is worth bringing up to the board, if we want this WG to be OpenStack Project level or possible extend to Foundation level. | 16:22 |
| eglute | garloff i think you are right. i dont think there is a huge demand for add-on guidelines, but hogepodge can correct me | 16:22 |
| eglute | hogepodge can you elaborate? | 16:22 |
| hogepodge | hasn't been a huge demand, we're also resource constrained on developing new marks and pushing them to the marketplace | 16:23 |
| hogepodge | eglute: do we want to extend the program to things like Kata or Airship? Or at least give them the opportunity to take advantage of the process and resources | 16:23 |
| eglute | hogepodge oh i see. do you think they need guidelines as well? | 16:24 |
| garloff | I still think that fragmentation is one of the main risks for OpenStack (and Open Infra), and InterOp helps ... | 16:25 |
| hogepodge | eglute: I don't know, tbh. It's never too early to start thinking about interop though | 16:25 |
| eglute | hogepodge we can bring it up as discussion to the board. but would be good to know adoption rate of these other projects and whether they need things like interop guidelines. One of the reasons that openstack needs it is that it is so customizable and big. | 16:26 |
| hogepodge | yeah, I'm not strong either way, just something that's crossed my mind in the last few weeks | 16:27 |
| eglute | hogepodge worth looking into it, i am sure. thank you for bringing it up. | 16:28 |
| eglute | #topic Berlin Summit | 16:29 |
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| eglute | do we have any interop sessions in Berlin? | 16:29 |
| eglute | i think I failed at submitting anything | 16:29 |
| garloff | Hmmm, I have not (yet?) seen any | 16:29 |
| garloff | Should we plan for meeting there somehow at least? | 16:30 |
| eglute | there is this one: #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/summit-schedule/events/21956/the-need-to-succeed-tearing-down-nfv-interoperability-walls | 16:30 |
| eglute | hogepodge are there working group sessions this time? do you know? | 16:30 |
| hogepodge | I think I signed us up for an interop working session | 16:31 |
| hogepodge | It's not posted to the schedule yet. I'll keep you updated | 16:31 |
| eglute | thank you hogepodge | 16:31 |
| garloff | eglute: nova list-availability-zones does a GET on av-zone/details whereas the tempest test just test GET av-zone -- thus the discrepancy ... | 16:31 |
| eglute | garloff ah ok | 16:32 |
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| eglute | Regarding the rest of the meetings before the summit: i will be traveling the week before the summit, so looks like we will have only one other meeting before then. Unless you all think we need additional meeting | 16:34 |
| markvoelker | I'll actually be away the week of Oct. 24th myself... | 16:35 |
| eglute | ok... so how about moving meeting to October 31? | 16:36 |
| hogepodge | spooky! | 16:36 |
| hogepodge | 👻 | 16:36 |
| eglute | haha | 16:36 |
| eglute | so besides being a scary date, any objections? | 16:37 |
| markvoelker | I should actually be around that day so works for me (too bad we can't see everyone's Halloween costumes over IRC...) | 16:37 |
| hogepodge | I'm good with that day | 16:37 |
| eglute | markvoelker you will need to send us pics of your costume | 16:37 |
| garloff | works for me as well | 16:37 |
| eglute | cool, then i will send an email with the updated date | 16:38 |
| eglute | anything else for today? | 16:38 |
| hogepodge | Just these. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/601633/ | 16:38 |
| * markvoelker has an excellent "engineer who drinks too much coffee and has too many meetings" costume that he's wearing today... | 16:38 | |
| hogepodge | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/608151/ | 16:38 |
| eglute | hogepodge yep, they are both merged! | 16:38 |
| hogepodge | Interop and Tempest are co-gating now. (non-voting on the tempest side) | 16:38 |
| eglute | thank you! | 16:38 |
| hogepodge | Zuul helping us not merge broken guidelines. :-) | 16:39 |
| eglute | is there anything else we need to do? | 16:39 |
| eglute | :D | 16:39 |
| * eglute thinks markvoelker has a brilliant costume | 16:39 | |
| hogepodge | Nope, we should get notifications early if there are inconsistencies now. | 16:39 |
| eglute | awesome!!! | 16:39 |
| eglute | thank you hogepodge and everyone who worked on them | 16:40 |
| eglute | if there is nothing else, you have extra 20 minutes for coffee or halloween costumes. | 16:40 |
| eglute | see you all back here in 3 weeks! | 16:40 |
| eglute | thank you | 16:40 |
| eglute | #endmeeting | 16:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 10 16:40:48 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2018/interopwg.2018-10-10-16.00.html | 16:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2018/interopwg.2018-10-10-16.00.txt | 16:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interopwg/2018/interopwg.2018-10-10-16.00.log.html | 16:40 |
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| hogepodge | markvoelker: eglute we have a session for Berlin | 16:49 |
| eglute | hogepodge cool, do you have a link? | 16:49 |
| hogepodge | It’s not live yet, confirmed internally | 16:49 |
| eglute | great, thank you hogepodge | 16:50 |
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