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| witek | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 17 15:00:32 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| annp_ | Hi witek | 15:00 |
| witek | Hello everyone | 15:00 |
| witek | hi annp_ | 15:00 |
| joadavis | hi | 15:01 |
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| annp_ | witek, Do you remember me? | 15:01 |
| annp_ | :-) | 15:01 |
| witek | I guess not from the nickname | 15:02 |
| witek | would you introduce yourself? | 15:03 |
| annp_ | witek, Yes, I'm from fujitsu vietnam. We've had a presentation at Boston summit about logging for security group :-) | 15:03 |
| witek | now I know :) | 15:03 |
| annp_ | :-) | 15:04 |
| witek | thanks for joining, let's start with the agenda | 15:04 |
| witek | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:04 |
| annp_ | Thanks please go ahead. | 15:04 |
| witek | #topic Merge Monasca APIs | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Merge Monasca APIs (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:04 | |
| witek | we have started the discussion last week | 15:05 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/609055 | 15:05 |
| witek | dougsz: are you around? | 15:05 |
| pandy | witek, would like to know what are the updates in monasca-api ? | 15:05 |
| dougsz | hey all - sorry, got distracted | 15:05 |
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| witek | the spec looks quite good | 15:06 |
| witek | dougsz: you had concerns if that's worth the effort, right? | 15:07 |
| dougsz | I think it will be hard for us to find the time to push it through alone | 15:08 |
| witek | for us, meaning StackHPC? | 15:08 |
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| dougsz | yeah | 15:09 |
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| witek | I've talked with the team and I guess we could help | 15:10 |
| witek | with the final goal to add `GET /logs` | 15:10 |
| dougsz | Hmm, that would be nice :) | 15:11 |
| dougsz | I think I will need to talk through how much time I can commit to it | 15:11 |
| dougsz | But it would be nice to get all the requirements on the spec so we have a good idea of exactly how big it will be | 15:11 |
| witek | yes, like listing the functionality which we actually want to merge | 15:13 |
| dougsz | I will try to add some more notes on it this week | 15:13 |
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| witek | thanks, let's keep active exchange on the spec review | 15:15 |
| witek | anything else on this? | 15:16 |
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| dougsz | Thanks - that's it from me. | 15:16 |
| witek | #topic Ceilometer events deprecation | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ceilometer events deprecation (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:16 | |
| witek | joadavis: has reported about it last week on #openstack-monasca and in review | 15:17 |
| joadavis | So I just recently noticed that Ceilometer has marked the events functionality as deprecated on master | 15:17 |
| joadavis | After chatting about it with aagate, we split out a separate spec for a different approach to gathering metrics | 15:18 |
| joadavis | Ceilometer deprecating metrics is good and bad for us - | 15:19 |
| joadavis | good in that it gives us a chance to be the one place for event monitoring | 15:19 |
| joadavis | bad in that long term we can't just use the Ceilometer functions as we had planned | 15:19 |
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| joadavis | We could still use ceilometer for a few releases. It is only marked as deprecated in Stein so should be available through T | 15:20 |
| witek | personally, I'd prefer to go for long-term solution | 15:20 |
| joadavis | Thanks for the review feedback on the spec so far | 15:20 |
| joadavis | yes, if we are going to spend effort on event gathering we should spend it on the long term solution | 15:21 |
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| witek | and that means from me, not relying on events collection via Ceilometer | 15:21 |
| joadavis | Based on feedback so far, I think another revision of the "events listener" spec will be coming | 15:22 |
| witek | let's put the link to review here: | 15:22 |
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| witek | https://review.openstack.org/583803 | 15:22 |
| joadavis | I think we may be able to reference the Ceilometer events processing for a pattern to follow, but having independent code will be better | 15:22 |
| joadavis | Comments are welcome. | 15:24 |
| witek | one idea which is listed in `alternatives` is to overcome the Events API and forward the notifications to Kafka directly | 15:24 |
| witek | what do you guys think of it? | 15:24 |
| dougsz | Can you do that directly via Oslo now? | 15:25 |
| joadavis | I think it would be a more efficient approach. I don't know much about Oslo features yet. | 15:25 |
| dougsz | I remember it coming up in Dublin | 15:25 |
| witek | https://docs.openstack.org/oslo.messaging/latest/reference/notification_listener.html | 15:25 |
| witek | in SUSE Monasca node communicates with RabbitMQ on control node via admin network | 15:27 |
| witek | so RabbitMQ is reachable from Monasca | 15:27 |
| witek | how is it in e.g. in Kolla? | 15:28 |
| joadavis | and it would be good to reuse the Oslo messaging if possible | 15:28 |
| dougsz | https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/specs/queens/update-kafka-support.html | 15:29 |
| joadavis | so we may just need a service that listens on rabbit, does some filtering and transformation, then posts on to kafka | 15:30 |
| dougsz | witek: No communication between Rabbit and Monasca in Kolla yet, unless you could the Agent plugin | 15:30 |
| dougsz | s/could/count | 15:30 |
| joadavis | we can configure which events are captured in a configuration file | 15:31 |
| witek | dougsz: but is RabbitMQ reachable from Monasca node? | 15:31 |
| joadavis | and we will still need a Monasca events api for retrieval and other uses | 15:31 |
| dougsz | Yeah, it should be. | 15:31 |
| dougsz | I see there is a RabbitMQ input plugin for Logstash | 15:31 |
| joadavis | cool | 15:33 |
| witek | yes, I've thought about Logstash as well, but I guess there could some reluctance in OpenStack community to use it | 15:33 |
| dougsz | It's not particularly operator friendly, although I suppose the config file would need less frequent updating than the log-metrics service. | 15:35 |
| joadavis | does Kolla run all the Monasca services in the same container? I suppose if we had different network access requirements for events we could have a separate container | 15:35 |
| dougsz | They're all in separate containers, something like 20 in total! | 15:35 |
| joadavis | :) | 15:36 |
| witek | chaconpiza: asks in review, if we need authentication | 15:36 |
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| witek | I guess we don't; other opinions? | 15:38 |
| joadavis | we always need some level of authentication. I assume we need username/password for rabbitmq. | 15:38 |
| dougsz | The use case for me that comes to mind would be tenants using the Event API for monitoring their application | 15:38 |
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| witek | would they also send events via RabbitMQ, or should we have API for them? | 15:39 |
| joadavis | The monasca Events API would still need authentication for a user to retrieve data | 15:39 |
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| dougsz | In an ideal world, the events would be sent via the Monasca Events API | 15:40 |
| joadavis | hmm, for an application... we could explore some options there | 15:40 |
| witek | dougsz: for tenants events, or OpenStack infra, or both | 15:40 |
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| truongnh_ | ping annp | 15:40 |
| dougsz | witek: Primarily for tenants | 15:41 |
| witek | agree | 15:41 |
| joadavis | Are you talking about custom events generated by an application that a tenant would want to report on, or are you referencing OpenStack service generated events that a tenant would want to know as they may effect the health of their application? | 15:42 |
| witek | custom events | 15:42 |
| dougsz | yeah | 15:42 |
| witek | OK, please let's stay on ball with the spec review | 15:43 |
| witek | I think we have some ideas how to proceed | 15:43 |
| witek | anything else for now? | 15:43 |
| joadavis | yes, we can work on the spec and continue to discuss if an application event needs to have a keystone token or a static token from config or no auth | 15:43 |
| witek | thanks joadavis | 15:44 |
| witek | #topic Monasca datasource in Vitrage | 15:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Monasca datasource in Vitrage (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:44 | |
| joadavis | I will make another revision to the events listener spec, so keep sending any thoughts and feedback | 15:44 |
| witek | short update on Vitrage | 15:44 |
| witek | I have joined their remote PTG meeting last week | 15:45 |
| witek | we have talked about integrating the projects and adding Monasca datasource to Vitrage | 15:45 |
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| witek | unfortunately they won't have resources to work on this | 15:46 |
| witek | but we discussed what have to be done | 15:46 |
| witek | Ifat created stories | 15:46 |
| witek | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2004064 | 15:47 |
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| witek | they have pretty good documentation about how to add new datasources | 15:47 |
| witek | they have also added Prometheus datasource in the last cycle which works with webhook notification | 15:47 |
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| witek | so we could follow the same implementation pattern | 15:48 |
| witek | I have added this story to our Board | 15:48 |
| witek | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/111 | 15:48 |
| witek | to backlog | 15:48 |
| pandy | witek, we are using vitrage, it's great to know monasca integration with vitrage datasource : | 15:49 |
| witek | so if anyone has some time, it would be a nice task | 15:49 |
| witek | pandy: we need some to implement Monasca datasource in Vitrage | 15:49 |
| witek | s/some/someone | 15:50 |
| pandy | sure, i can try to help out as implementation point of view :) being having good exposure with vitrage | 15:50 |
| witek | that would be fantastic | 15:50 |
| witek | as I said, I've added the story to backlog | 15:51 |
| pandy | yeah, saw that | 15:51 |
| witek | also, if you need more details you can contact me or Ifat from Vitrage | 15:51 |
| pandy | sure | 15:51 |
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| witek | I think it's potentially a good topic for Summit presentation | 15:52 |
| dougsz | I'd vote for it | 15:52 |
| pandy | common irc channel or way to contact both together ? if Ifat joins monasca channel will be great, else please share me channel and irc name | 15:53 |
| pandy | guys, would like to share in india opensource event happened. Where monasca & kolla projects were highlighted | 15:53 |
| dougsz | looks like #openstack-vitrage and ifat_afek | 15:54 |
| witek | pandy: go ahead | 15:54 |
| pandy | thankd dougsz for sharing his details :), witek let me know to discuss 3 node setup | 15:54 |
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| witek | #topic 3 nodes setup | 15:55 |
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| pandy | To all shortly, we are handling 1200+ nodes, where currently monasca was installed on 3 node setup | 15:55 |
| pandy | challenge is with handling monasca components in particular kafka | 15:56 |
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| pandy | i have deployed through docker & using docker swarm to handle it | 15:56 |
| pandy | would like to know whether monasca-api stores broker_ID any where ? | 15:56 |
| pandy | I have used third party kafka-cluster setup to run on docker swarm, which is running fine for other application though i do reboot. But with monasca mainly monasca-api throwing error that not able to kafka and broken | 15:58 |
| dougsz | Which version of Kafka are you using in your 3rd party setup? | 15:58 |
| pandy | if we have these supported environment variables for monasca/kafka images http://paste.openstack.org/show/732344/ will be great | 15:59 |
| pandy | dougsz, am using https://github.com/wurstmeister/kafka-docker | 15:59 |
| dougsz | It looks very recent, you'll need to set the messaging version | 16:00 |
| dougsz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605751/13/doc/source/reference/monasca-guide.rst | 16:00 |
| dougsz | ^ See line 55 | 16:00 |
| witek | I'm sorry, have to wrap up | 16:01 |
| pandy | witek suggested to use deploy kafka on each node and point it to KAFKA_URI: node:9092, node2:9092 like that. it will work. But in docker swarm one stack should run fine, which may helps to scale up in future to handle large requests like 1200 nodes datas | 16:01 |
| dougsz | thanks all, bye for now | 16:01 |
| witek | see you next week and let's continue the work on reviews | 16:01 |
| witek | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| pandy | witek, understood. let's talk in monasca channel if can | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 17 16:01:36 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-10-17-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-10-17-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-10-17-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
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