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| tellesnobrega | #startmeeting sahara | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 25 14:00:17 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tellesnobrega. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 14:00 |
| jeremyfreudberg | o/ | 14:00 |
| tosky | o/ | 14:00 |
| tellesnobrega | hey jeremyfreudberg long time no talk | 14:00 |
| jeremyfreudberg | welcome back tellesnobrega | 14:01 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks :) | 14:01 |
| tellesnobrega | lets start with updates and we can move to tc talk once someone joins | 14:02 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic News/Updates | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "News/Updates (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:02 | |
| tellesnobrega | I'm still testing plugins split, I've successfully created spark and storm clusters | 14:02 |
| tellesnobrega | now I'm testing vanilla | 14:03 |
| tellesnobrega | ambari is failing for a still unknown and unrelated to the split issu | 14:03 |
| tellesnobrega | cdh image is huge and it is not uploading on my env at this moment | 14:03 |
| tellesnobrega | mapr I haven't got to it yet | 14:03 |
| tosky | I'm still working on S3 testing; my patch is almost done (I just need to figure out how to cleanly override the job settings for a specific cluster in scenario templates) | 14:03 |
| tellesnobrega | once I get all clusters to start I will start working on running scenarios testing | 14:03 |
| tosky | I managed to test S3 (but with RHEL) on Cloudera and MapR; I have some troubles with Ambari, where jobs are killed | 14:04 |
| tosky | and I realized that the oozie console is not installed on Ambari | 14:04 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | is (was) oozie not on the template? | 14:05 |
| jeremyfreudberg | also, I've been working on health repair, albeit very, very slowly and sporadically | 14:05 |
| tosky | uhm, I will recheck, but I thought it was - maybe not | 14:06 |
| tosky | thanks for the hint | 14:06 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | two tc members! | 14:06 |
| jeremyfreudberg | hi! | 14:06 |
| zaneb | o/ | 14:07 |
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| tellesnobrega | lets move on to the cloud vision discussion | 14:07 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic Cloud Vision Discussion | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cloud Vision Discussion (Meeting topic: sahara)" | 14:07 | |
| tellesnobrega | hi zaneb | 14:07 |
| zaneb | hello friends | 14:07 |
| tellesnobrega | first of, zaneb, do you have anything you want to start with? | 14:07 |
| zaneb | jeremyfreudberg: thanks for your feedback on the review | 14:08 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | zaneb: happy to help | 14:09 |
| zaneb | I think that's a good suggestion, to try to suggest where the complexity level is that having it as-a-Service in OpenStack is worth it | 14:09 |
| zaneb | I guess I don't have a lot to say beyond what's in the review and the mailing list thread, I'm mostly interested in what y'all think | 14:10 |
| zaneb | is that the way that you see Sahara as adding value to OpenStack, or are there different ways as well? | 14:10 |
| tellesnobrega | jeremyfreudberg, tosky? | 14:10 |
| zaneb | does the rest of it kind of fit with the pattern of what you imagine users will do with OpenStack, or were you imagining something different? | 14:11 |
| zaneb | those kinds of questions :) | 14:11 |
| zaneb | cdent: anything to add to that? | 14:11 |
| tellesnobrega | zaneb, I have to be honest, I haven't read the whole thing yet, but regarding the sahara part, I agree with you and also with what jeremyfreudberg has said | 14:12 |
| tellesnobrega | specially the part regarding the complexity of the deploying such plataforms | 14:12 |
| tellesnobrega | this is something that should be touched because it is one of the main motivations of using sahara | 14:13 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i really like what you've written, and i think it covers sahara well, and fits with my brain-pictures... one thing to point out "abstracting the management" can be broadened slightly in the sahara use case, as it's currently worded it doesn't quite cover the abstraction of submitting data processing jobs | 14:13 |
| tellesnobrega | and of course trove | 14:13 |
| tosky | yes, it's one layer of abstraction over other layers of abstractions, but it captures the need of a specific category of users/admins | 14:13 |
| cdent | My main concern is that the vision helps people make decisions about what is in scope for their day to day work. | 14:13 |
| zaneb | do we think the fact that it involves clustering is what makes stuff complex enough to need a service? or just complexity in general? | 14:13 |
| zaneb | jeremyfreudberg: ah, that's interesting | 14:15 |
| tosky | IMHO the good thing for Sahara is that glues together various OpenStack services to help people deploying their cluster | 14:15 |
| tellesnobrega | zaneb, there are two levels of complexity, the clustering itself, and the configuration of each data processing tools | 14:15 |
| tosky | which is something that, surely, you could do manually, but you would end up reimplementing the glue that sahara is... in a less general way | 14:15 |
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| evrardjp | it's good to clarify :) | 14:16 |
| zaneb | so complexity that may include but is not limited to managing clusters :) | 14:18 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yes, i'll agree, the tools of any of these "abstract specialized ops" may be complex, and the deployment of these tools into a clustered env may be complex, and that entire picture gives a sense of whether it's "complex or not" | 14:19 |
| tosky | I would say that it's managing cluster ->with resources provided by other openstack services<- | 14:19 |
| zaneb | tosky: ++ | 14:20 |
| zaneb | you're seeing the first draft of that particular section, so this is all great feedback that we can definitely roll in | 14:21 |
| tellesnobrega | great | 14:23 |
| tellesnobrega | anything else on this topic? | 14:23 |
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| zaneb | thanks for inviting us over! | 14:24 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks for starting that work, it will be a great source of information | 14:24 |
| jeremyfreudberg | that's it from me for now, thanks zaneb and others, i'll keep an eye on the review | 14:24 |
| * tosky agrees too | 14:25 | |
| zaneb | thanks everybody :) | 14:25 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks zaneb cdent and evrardjp | 14:25 |
| evrardjp | anytime | 14:25 |
| cdent | I did so much ;) | 14:26 |
| tellesnobrega | moving on | 14:26 |
| evrardjp | I'll stay around if you don't mind, just listening, in case you need anything else :) | 14:26 |
| tellesnobrega | tosky, jeremyfreudberg specific topics for today? | 14:26 |
| tellesnobrega | evrardjp, sure, no problem at all | 14:26 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i have to leave at 40ish past the hour, not really any specific topics from me | 14:27 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i could probably fill open discussion for a few minutes, so let's go to that unless tosky or tellesnobrega has a topic | 14:28 |
| tosky | just a quick reminder for few patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/611276/ and the two backports for queens | 14:28 |
| tosky | nothing else right now | 14:28 |
| tellesnobrega | #topic Open Discussion | 14:28 |
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| tellesnobrega | today is M1 | 14:28 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | yes, and m1 is now optional | 14:28 |
| tellesnobrega | from what I understood from recent email it is optional | 14:29 |
| tellesnobrega | but there is a rule for libraries, should we cut a release for python-saharaclient at this point? | 14:29 |
| tellesnobrega | do we want m1? | 14:29 |
| tosky | do we have relevant changes in python-saharaclient? | 14:29 |
| tosky | (I think not really) | 14:30 |
| jeremyfreudberg | https://github.com/openstack/python-saharaclient/compare/2.0.0...master | 14:30 |
| jeremyfreudberg | no, nothing to release | 14:30 |
| tosky | no code changes | 14:30 |
| tellesnobrega | cool | 14:30 |
| tellesnobrega | we will skip m1 for everything them | 14:30 |
| tosky | so no new version to depend on | 14:31 |
| tellesnobrega | yes | 14:31 |
| tosky | we will need an M2 though, after the split | 14:31 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yup, m2 is jan 10 | 14:31 |
| jeremyfreudberg | (my birthday, actually) | 14:31 |
| tosky | ah! | 14:31 |
| tellesnobrega | as a gift you will do the release :D | 14:32 |
| tellesnobrega | \o/ | 14:32 |
| jeremyfreudberg | ha | 14:32 |
| tellesnobrega | jk | 14:32 |
| jeremyfreudberg | but yes, we will definitely release m2, and we have time to get lots of good things (split, etc.) in there | 14:32 |
| tellesnobrega | yes | 14:32 |
| tellesnobrega | we need apiv2 there | 14:32 |
| jeremyfreudberg | agree | 14:33 |
| tosky | talking about the split, I started drafting the email for openstack-dev@ on http://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-plugins-split | 14:33 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yes, ongoing infra problems on etherpad, so we'll see if i can load it | 14:33 |
| tosky | that pad was originally created by tellesnobrega to collect the links to the work-in-progress split repositories, but it seemed the right place | 14:33 |
| jeremyfreudberg | ah, loaded, finally | 14:34 |
| tellesnobrega | tosky, it is right enough | 14:34 |
| tosky | I need to fill few details about the current packaging status | 14:34 |
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| tosky | and I will probably raise the question of how to handle the split on RDO first, only because I'm technically an RDO packager too | 14:35 |
| jeremyfreudberg | email looks good so far | 14:35 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i may think of things as we start to get closer | 14:35 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks for starting that draft tosky | 14:37 |
| jeremyfreudberg | one quick topic from me | 14:38 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i think you've all seem gaasmann's story here: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2004111 | 14:38 |
| jeremyfreudberg | about some process problems | 14:38 |
| jeremyfreudberg | he's already done a good bit of investigation | 14:38 |
| jeremyfreudberg | my question is | 14:38 |
| tellesnobrega | nc process hanging? | 14:38 |
| jeremyfreudberg | my question is, have we ever seen this in container tripleo? | 14:39 |
| tellesnobrega | I haven't | 14:39 |
| tosky | I don't remember | 14:40 |
| tosky | but it's not a scenario that I tested too much in depth (sadly) | 14:40 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | alright, that's fine if you don't have the complete information about it | 14:41 |
| jeremyfreudberg | but it would be interesting to look into | 14:41 |
| jeremyfreudberg | whether or not it's kolla specific or all container specific, or not at all container related | 14:41 |
| jeremyfreudberg | but it sounds like gaasmann is working hard at it, so no big worry yet | 14:42 |
| tellesnobrega | yes | 14:42 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i gotta go guys, but great meeting | 14:42 |
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| tellesnobrega | thanks jeremyfreudberg | 14:42 |
| tosky | thanks jeremyfreudberg! | 14:42 |
| jeremyfreudberg | bye | 14:43 |
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| tellesnobrega | anything else for today tosky? | 14:43 |
| tellesnobrega | if not I guess we can close for today | 14:45 |
| tosky | nothing else from my side | 14:46 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks everyone | 14:47 |
| tellesnobrega | great meeting | 14:47 |
| tellesnobrega | thanks tc folks for joining as well | 14:47 |
| tellesnobrega | #endmeeting | 14:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:47 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 25 14:47:28 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-10-25-14.00.html | 14:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-10-25-14.00.txt | 14:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2018/sahara.2018-10-25-14.00.log.html | 14:47 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 25 15:00:13 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 15:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: go Sox! | 15:00 |
| haleyb | oh yeah! | 15:00 |
| haleyb | i'll finally get some sleep tonight | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | yeah, I was about to ask about that | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | going late to bed can't last too long | 15:01 |
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| slaweq | hi | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:02 | |
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| mlavalle | Stein-1 milestone this week | 15:03 |
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| mlavalle | and Summit in Berlin in two weeks | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | any other announcements? | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:04 | |
| njohnston | o/ | 15:04 |
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| mlavalle | First in the list is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1774459 | 15:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1774459 in neutron "Update permanent ARP entries for allowed_address_pair IPs in DVR Routers" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 15:05 |
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| mlavalle | Swami has a WIP patch proposed for this bug: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/601336/ | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | and he has requested feedback on it | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | which I have failed to provide :-( | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | I will follow up today | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | any other comments? | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1789434 | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1789434 in neutron "neutron_tempest_plugin.scenario.test_migration.NetworkMigrationFromHA failing 100% times" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Manjeet Singh Bhatia (manjeet-s-bhatia) | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | manjeets is working on this one | 15:08 |
| manjeets_ | I’ve got some feedback from Brian wip on the patch I’ll look at today, sorry I was asked to fix internal lab issues which got me for past 2 days ! | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | manjeets_: that's ok, thanks for working on this | 15:09 |
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| manjeets_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/611461/ | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | manjeets_: you read my mind | 15:10 |
| manjeets_ | More reviews are welcome | 15:10 |
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| * slaweq needs to go afk now, will read log from meeting later | 15:10 | |
| manjeets_ | :) | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | the bug wasn't connected to the patch, so I aaded a comment with the patch url | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | for easier reference | 15:12 |
| manjeets_ | thanks ! | 15:12 |
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| mlavalle | ok, next one | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1795870 | 15:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1795870 in neutron "Trunk scenario test test_trunk_subport_lifecycle fails from time to time" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | I am having a hard time with this one | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | I haven't been able to reproduce locally | 15:14 |
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| mlavalle | so now the plan is comparing the server / L2 / L3 logs of my succesfull runs locally with what I see in the failures in logstash | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | I will kepp pushing forward with it | 15:16 |
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| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1792493 | 15:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1792493 in neutron "DVR and floating IPs broken in latest 7.0.0.0rc1?" [High,Triaged] | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | This one has no owner | 15:16 |
| haleyb | i wonder if that is a duplicate | 15:17 |
| haleyb | related to the bad kernel bug | 15:17 |
| haleyb | although maybe they tried that | 15:18 |
| haleyb | i should have gone to last comments i guess | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | well, I'll take a look at it after I make progress with the one I am working on presently | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | Those are all the bugs I have at the moment | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | any other bugs from toher memebers of the team? | 15:20 |
| haleyb | i know liu had filed a number against port forwarding, but nothing specific to mention | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: I think he is going to work on them | 15:21 |
| haleyb | yup | 15:21 |
| liuyulong | haleyb, we mentioned them in the team meeting | 15:22 |
| liuyulong | so, no from me today | 15:22 |
| haleyb | ah, thanks, i did not attend, and they were l3 so figured i'd mention | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | ok, thanks | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | #topic On demand agenda | 15:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "On demand agenda (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 15:22 | |
| mlavalle | any other topics we should discuss today | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | ? | 15:23 |
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| * mlavalle will go back to bang his head against bug 1795870 | 15:24 | |
| openstack | bug 1795870 in neutron "Trunk scenario test test_trunk_subport_lifecycle fails from time to time" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1795870 - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | ok, guys, thanks for attending today! | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:24 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 25 15:24:37 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-10-25-15.00.html | 15:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-10-25-15.00.txt | 15:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2018/neutron_l3.2018-10-25-15.00.log.html | 15:24 |
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