Wednesday, 2018-10-31

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truongnhHello everyone, witek isn't online now15:03
koji_nhello15:04
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joadavisping15:08
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koji_nwould today be skipped?15:09
truongnhchairman is not online now :(15:12
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koji_nno topics in etherpad, and witek isn't here15:15
koji_nso i guess today's meeting could be skipped15:15
joadavisI had forgotten he mentioned he would be gone.  We can meet, but I have no urgent topics15:15
koji_ndoes anyone has topics?15:15
joadavisI just have some minor bugs in monasca-agent I'm working on (and some general complaints about its code ;) )15:16
joadavisWe can have any discussion in the #openstack-monasca for anything this week15:17
koji_ni see15:19
truongnhHi koji_n15:21
koji_nhi15:21
truongnhThe meeting agenda here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda15:21
koji_nyes, i know. and it seems there is no agenda for today15:26
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truongnhIn the last week meeting, Fujitsu Vietnam team propose  Use Cases for Proactive HA https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Use_cases_for_Monasca_in_Proactive_HA_for_VMs15:28
truongnhDo you have any comments for us.15:29
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koji_nsorry, in these weeks i was busy for another task, so i didn't check it15:29
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truongnhkoji_n: Oh, no problem. Anyway, thank you in advance.15:35
koji_ni'll check it and let's discuss it in next week15:38
koji_ni couldn't open the etherpad today, timeout occurred...15:39
truongnhOne again, thank you so much. That's very kind of you.15:39
koji_nnp, see you next week15:39
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truongnhkoji_n: See you15:40
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eglute#startmeeting interopwg16:00
markvoelker#startmeeting interopwg16:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct 31 16:00:53 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is eglute. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackmarkvoelker: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.16:00
markvoelkero/16:01
egluteheh, perfect timing markvoelker :D16:01
eglute#chair markvoelker hogepodge16:01
openstackCurrent chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker16:01
eglute#topic agenda16:01
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eglute#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropWhistler.2116:01
egluteanyone else here for interop meeting?16:02
* markvoelker notes that Halloween is upon us and folks may be off spookin16:02
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egluteI saw hogepodge submit a patch earlier today16:03
hogepodgeKeystone some capabilities to talk about.16:04
hogepodgethe most interesting one is token-delete, we don't have a capability for it but there is a test that arrived16:04
eglutecool thanks hogepodge16:04
eglute#topic time change16:04
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eglute#topic keystone16:05
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eglutethanks hogepodge16:05
eglute#link16:05
eglute#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/614553/116:05
eglutehogepodge do you want to add that to 2018.11 guideline?16:05
eglutewe havent created it yet, so if you submit a patch with tests, i think we can still add as advisory16:06
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markvoelkerHm, I don't think any of those new capabilities met the bar though did they?  Scores are all too low.16:07
eglutethe score for identity-v3-tokens-validate got updated16:07
markvoelkerIt was already included anyway though16:08
egluteah ok16:08
eglutethats what i get reviewing before enough coffee16:08
eglutethanks markvoelker and hogepodge16:08
egluteok, then no new capabilities for keystone to be added16:08
hogepodgeThe scoring is mostly preliminary, wanted to bring it up to your attention.16:08
hogepodgetokens-validate was in last release, so it got an update16:09
egluteyeah, i missed that part16:09
markvoelkerThanks...just from a quick eyeballing, seems about right to me.  Will have a closer look later.16:09
hogepodgepassword update is also there, although Luz made some comments previously that it may conflict with public cloud password policies16:09
hogepodgeapplication credentials should be available for either the T or U release (first appeared in queens)16:10
hogepodgeso to me, token delete is the biggest question right now16:10
eglutebut, it still hasnt scored high enough, correct?16:11
hogepodgeI wasn't sure if it's used widely by tools.16:13
markvoelkerAs scored now it doesn't...but it might if we called it proximate to identity-v3-tokens-create and identity-v3-tokens-validate I think16:14
hogepodgeOr about Foundational (that one could probably be switched to 1)16:14
egluteok, so the score could go up and we could add it as advisory16:14
hogepodgeFoundational probably should be 1, since it's pretty important to be able to revoke compromised tokens.16:15
egluteright16:15
eglutei think we can update to 1 and include it as advisory16:16
markvoelkerMakes sense to me16:16
hogepodgeI just sent the scoring up, and can add a capability after the meeting.16:16
hogepodgeSeems like a good thing to get into advisory16:16
eglutecool, lets do it16:17
eglutethank you hogepodge16:17
hogepodgethanks, sorry for taking so long16:17
eglutenp. i think everyone is super busy with a lot of other things16:18
eglute#topic guideline 2018.1116:19
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eglutedo we need to review anything else for 2018.11?16:19
hogepodgeJust keystone patch coming in later today.16:19
egluteok,16:19
hogepodgeThere's also a keystone capability that has one flagged test16:19
eglutethen we need to create the actual patch for 2018.1116:19
hogepodgeWhen we create the patch, we need to update the gate to include 2018.11 in the consistency checks16:20
markvoelkerOne other outstanding item is a patch moving the heat stuff from advisory->required for the heat add-on.  I keep forgetting to actually get that done. =p  Will fix.16:20
egluteok thank you hogepodge and markvoelker16:20
egluteanything else on the guideline?16:21
eglute#topic meeting time16:22
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egluteI am traveling next week, and after that we will meet at the summit16:22
markvoelkerSpeaking of: it looks like I'll miss a chunk of the BoD meeting due to when my flight gets in.  Is everyone else going to be there?16:23
hogepodgeI'll be at the BoD meeting, arriving on Sunday.16:24
egluteYes, i am planning on getting there on Sunday16:24
egluteso the next meeting will be in a month or so, though i would propose no meetings for the rest of the year unless we have business to take care of16:25
hogepodge+116:25
markvoelkerworks for me16:25
hogepodgeBetween post-summit vacation and holiday, KubeCon, and end of year holidays, I'm probably booked up and distracted16:25
eglutecool, i will send an email at some point to that regard16:25
egluteyeah, i need to take a lot of time off to use up my time off16:26
eglutethere will also be the time change, is it ok to keep it at UTC 16:00? we can also revisit next year16:26
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markvoelkerI think I'm good with keeping 16:00, but can do either.16:27
eglutecool, will revisit next year to make sure16:27
hogepodgeI should be fine16:28
eglute#topic board report16:28
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egluteI will start working on the board report today and send you the link to add anything that is needed. Since I will be traveling, I will try to get most of it done this week16:28
egluteso i will appreciate any help you can provide :)16:28
hogepodge+116:29
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eglute#topic summit16:29
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eglutewe have a session at the summit, thanks hogepodge!16:30
eglutei created etherpad: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/InteropBerlin201816:30
egluteplease add topics16:30
egluteanything else for today?16:31
hogepodgeYes16:31
eglutego ahead hogepodge16:32
garloffLooking fwd to seeing you all in Berlin :-)16:32
eglutesame here garloff! Thanks for hosting us for the board meeting!16:32
hogepodgeI’ll be meeting with a Chinese agency that wants to start setting standards for public clouds in a China. I’ll be encouraging adoption of Interop guidelines and contributions16:33
eglutehogepodge wow thats huge16:33
hogepodgeIt’s all preliminary16:33
eglutehogepodge cool, are they going to be attending the berlin summit? we can setup a meeting if they are16:34
hogepodgeOur new hire who is based in China, Horace, is the lead on those conversations16:34
garloffhogepodge: Let's make sure we'll end up with one worldwide standard ...16:35
hogepodgeWe’re working on setting up the meetings16:35
eglutehogepodge sounds good!16:35
eglutegarloff yes, for openstack, there are only our interop standards16:35
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garloffgood -- if they want to go beyond what we're currently standardizing, we should try to adopt their needs as opposed to having something that's then only adopted in China ...16:37
garloffThat's what I was trying to express.16:37
garloffAnyhow, good discussion for Berlin16:37
eglutegarloff very true!16:38
egluteanything else for today?16:38
hogepodgegarloff: yes, that's the goal, to adopt InteropWG guidelines as a baseline and contribute to the activities of the WG16:38
hogepodgethanks everybody!16:41
eglutealright, if nothing else, danke schön!16:41
eglute#endmeeting16:41
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