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| witek | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 7 15:00:35 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| witek | Hello everyone | 15:00 |
| TuanVu | Hi Witek :) | 15:00 |
| chaconpiza | Hi | 15:00 |
| dougsz | hey all | 15:00 |
| truongnh | Hi al | 15:01 |
| koji_n | hi | 15:01 |
| witek | agenda seems quite light today | 15:01 |
| witek | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:01 |
| witek | let's start | 15:01 |
| witek | #topic openstack-discuss mailing list | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "openstack-discuss mailing list (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:01 | |
| dougsz | signed up, thanks for reminder | 15:02 |
| witek | first an announcement/reminder | 15:02 |
| witek | already posted on #openstack-monasca and openstack-dev already | 15:02 |
| witek | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-October/136114.html | 15:03 |
| witek | please register for the new list | 15:03 |
| witek | #topic disable Java build job for monasca-api | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "disable Java build job for monasca-api (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:04 | |
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| witek | we have hit a problem with building Java components in the last days | 15:04 |
| witek | there are apparently bugs in Ubuntu's openjdk-8 package and maven-surefire-plugin | 15:05 |
| witek | the workarounds for monasca-common, persister and thresh seem to work | 15:05 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/615557 | 15:05 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/615873 | 15:06 |
| witek | the second one needs review | 15:06 |
| witek | but I couldn't find an easy solution for monasca-api | 15:06 |
| witek | so, I would like to propose disabling building Java packages for monasca-api | 15:07 |
| witek | as it was deprecated in Queens already | 15:07 |
| dougsz | As you say it's deprecated | 15:07 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/615905 | 15:07 |
| dougsz | I'm all for cutting down on maintenance :) | 15:08 |
| witek | thanks dougsz, other opinions? | 15:08 |
| witek | joadavis: ? | 15:09 |
| joadavis | I think I'm ok with it. I was trying to think of any objections but have none | 15:09 |
| witek | thanks | 15:09 |
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| witek | the reviews are up there, so after merging we can start rebasing other blocked changes | 15:11 |
| dougsz | thanks for fixing witek | 15:11 |
| witek | #topic reviews | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:11 | |
| witek | events spec: | 15:12 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/615905 | 15:12 |
| witek | could we get a consensus which way we go? | 15:12 |
| witek | we have two documents there now | 15:12 |
| dougsz | I need to find time to go through them properly, i've over manged to skim read so far | 15:13 |
| dougsz | s/over/only | 15:13 |
| witek | wrong url | 15:14 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583803/ | 15:14 |
| joadavis | I think the events listener is a better approach. I'd kept the ceilometer based version for history, but we can drop it or move it to another 'wontfix' directory | 15:14 |
| joadavis | we don't currently have a directory for specs we have decided not to implement | 15:14 |
| witek | joadavis: true, good idea to move it to a different dir | 15:15 |
| witek | I also think listener is better | 15:16 |
| witek | left some comments in review | 15:17 |
| joadavis | thanks | 15:17 |
| witek | persister perf spec: | 15:17 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605782/ | 15:17 |
| joadavis | I tried to refresh the spec and move it out of the WIP state | 15:18 |
| witek | thanks for updating | 15:18 |
| joadavis | I don't think we have anyone to implement it currently, but it is good to capture what needs to be done | 15:19 |
| witek | we have some review adding Prometheus instrumentation | 15:19 |
| joadavis | ah, interesting | 15:19 |
| witek | so we should link these | 15:19 |
| witek | here the change: | 15:20 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605664/ | 15:20 |
| joadavis | thanks, I'll take a look at that | 15:22 |
| witek | it might be it needs further work | 15:22 |
| witek | also, due to dependency on prometheus-client, the lib would have to be added to global requirements | 15:23 |
| dougsz | I did wonder if statsd might be a lighter alternative given some services support it already | 15:23 |
| joadavis | yeah, it does look like it is adding prometheus as a hard requirement, and there are still many deployments where that is not in place or needed | 15:24 |
| witek | yes, I'm also not sure about which approach is better | 15:24 |
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| witek | ok, please leave comments in review if you have opinion or concerns | 15:27 |
| witek | upgrade check: | 15:27 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603465/ | 15:27 |
| joadavis | yes, I quickly refactored my earlier work to match the framework that has been pushed out to many other projects | 15:29 |
| witek | so, it's using oslo.upgradecheck now | 15:29 |
| joadavis | yes | 15:29 |
| joadavis | it still doesn't do any "real" check | 15:29 |
| joadavis | but we can add checks when we see the need | 15:29 |
| witek | are other projects using it already? | 15:30 |
| witek | I mean oslo.upgradecheck | 15:30 |
| joadavis | from what I've seen, only a few have merged them. But a couple engineers from NEC pushed the framework out to almost all the OpenStack projects | 15:30 |
| witek | nice | 15:31 |
| joadavis | I think nova and glance are the only ones that have really implemented checks | 15:31 |
| joadavis | its a large list if you look in the upgrade-checkers topic in gerrit | 15:32 |
| witek | found a change for Glance https://review.openstack.org/610661 | 15:33 |
| joadavis | the one shortcut I took in our checker is the localization. Monasca didn't seem to have the same support for _() | 15:34 |
| joadavis | the list of all changes - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:upgrade-checkers+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 15:34 |
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| witek | thanks for this work joadavis | 15:35 |
| joadavis | sure. | 15:35 |
| witek | should we move it to `Needs Review` on our board? | 15:36 |
| joadavis | That brings up another point - I have seen a number of Zuul failures lately | 15:36 |
| joadavis | yes, we can put it under review | 15:36 |
| witek | done | 15:37 |
| witek | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/111 | 15:37 |
| joadavis | thanks | 15:37 |
| witek | back to Zuul failures | 15:37 |
| joadavis | seems to be random tempest failures, possibly due to timing | 15:37 |
| witek | yes, I've seen this as well | 15:39 |
| joadavis | glad it wasn't just me. :) | 15:39 |
| joadavis | I hope it clears up soon | 15:39 |
| witek | we could spend some time trying to improve tempest tests, but that's laborious | 15:41 |
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| joadavis | the failures looked like it was still trying to set up the computes before the tests. so maybe an infra problem | 15:42 |
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| witek | oh yes, that one looked like infra problem, but we have other failures as well | 15:43 |
| witek | should we move to the next topics? | 15:44 |
| joadavis | yes | 15:44 |
| witek | thanks | 15:44 |
| witek | #topic pro-active HA | 15:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "pro-active HA (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:45 | |
| TuanVu | if there’s any comment on “use cases for Monasca in Proactive HA for VMs”, please feel free to let us know | 15:45 |
| TuanVu | We are also welcome any comments for “The list of metrics which are necessary for Proactive HA” | 15:45 |
| TuanVu | At this moment, we’re building Prove of Concept for Proactive HA. | 15:45 |
| TuanVu | In particular, we’re trying to fill the gap of communication between Monasca and Watcher | 15:45 |
| witek | I've chatted with Cong Tuan this week | 15:46 |
| truongnh | Hi all, we already proposed the Use Case for Monasca in Proactive HA for VMs here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Use_cases_for_Monasca_in_Proactive_HA_for_VMs | 15:46 |
| witek | I could add some description how the generic notification plugin could look like | 15:47 |
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| TuanVu | Hi Witek, thanks a lot for your great help! | 15:47 |
| TuanVu | that's awesome | 15:47 |
| witek | have you considered how you would like to collect temperature measurements? | 15:48 |
| truongnh | Hi witek, that's very kind of you. We highly appreciate your help. | 15:49 |
| TuanVu | we haven't figured it out yet | 15:50 |
| truongnh | We're investigating the source codes monasca-notification | 15:50 |
| TuanVu | if you have any advice, please don't hesitate to let us know | 15:50 |
| witek | as we talked during the PTG Watcher does not `understand` the webhook notification which we could send | 15:51 |
| witek | so I thought about adding a generic http notification plugin | 15:51 |
| witek | with flexible request body | 15:52 |
| witek | when creating a notification method you would have to provide a template | 15:52 |
| witek | which could be stored in configuration database | 15:52 |
| witek | this template would be used then when sending the notification and filled with actual data, as needed by Watcher | 15:53 |
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| TuanVu | thanks for detailed information, Witek | 15:54 |
| TuanVu | we'll follow your recommendation and let you know if there's any other concern | 15:55 |
| witek | I can add some description to the etherpad | 15:55 |
| TuanVu | that's great! Thank you very much! | 15:56 |
| witek | thanks for working on this\ | 15:56 |
| witek | next week is Summit week | 15:57 |
| witek | not sure if I can join the meeting | 15:57 |
| witek | the sessions are till 5:50pm | 15:58 |
| joadavis | I think it is customary to skip meetings during the summit. :) | 15:58 |
| witek | yes, I think it's best idea | 15:58 |
| witek | let's meet here again in 2 weeks then | 15:59 |
| witek | and for those attending, see you on Tue | 15:59 |
| dougsz | Yep, see you there | 15:59 |
| witek | dougsz: when do you arrive? | 15:59 |
| dougsz | Monday evening | 16:00 |
| witek | have to close now, see you there | 16:00 |
| witek | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 7 16:00:24 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-11-07-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-11-07-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| joadavis | safe travels | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-11-07-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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| TuanVu | bye everyone | 16:01 |
| TuanVu | see you soon | 16:01 |
| truongnh | Good bye | 16:01 |
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