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| witek | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 21 15:00:29 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| witek | Hello everyone | 15:00 |
| koji_n | hi | 15:00 |
| witek | hi koji_n | 15:01 |
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| Fdaisuke_ | hello | 15:01 |
| dougsz | Hey all | 15:01 |
| witek | nice to see you all | 15:01 |
| witek | the agenda in the usual place: | 15:01 |
| witek | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:02 |
| witek | let's start with the quick Summit recap | 15:02 |
| witek | #topic Berlin Summit recap | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Berlin Summit recap (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:02 | |
| witek | we had couple presentations in Berlin | 15:03 |
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| witek | Project Update | 15:03 |
| witek | https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/summit-schedule/events/22869/monasca-openstack-monitoring | 15:03 |
| witek | unfortunately still no videos available | 15:03 |
| witek | I have listed our work around events and logs as the focus in Stein release | 15:04 |
| witek | the interest was quite big | 15:04 |
| witek | 2. Project Onboarding | 15:05 |
| witek | http://btw23.de/johannes/talks/monasca-onboarding.tar.bz2 | 15:05 |
| witek | then we had a presentation from StackHPC | 15:05 |
| witek | 3. Monitoring as a Service in the HPC Cloud | 15:06 |
| witek | https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/summit-schedule/events/22446/monitoring-as-a-service-in-the-hpc-cloud | 15:06 |
| witek | very good informative presentation | 15:06 |
| witek | presenting Monasca deployed with Kolla Ansible | 15:07 |
| joadavis | good to hear the interest in monasca was high | 15:07 |
| witek | 4. Monitoring Hands-On Workshop | 15:07 |
| witek | https://github.com/martinchacon/monasca-bootcamp | 15:08 |
| witek | that one was really packed! | 15:08 |
| witek | we had almost 100 people doing hands-on excercises with Monasca | 15:08 |
| joadavis | wow | 15:08 |
| dougsz | Great job from Martin on that one | 15:08 |
| witek | after both, Project Update and Hands-On there were questions about Ceilometer | 15:09 |
| witek | if Monasca can/will replace it? | 15:10 |
| witek | also, there were questions about deployment methods for the agent | 15:10 |
| witek | I have pointed to the monasca-ceilometer plugin | 15:11 |
| witek | another very interesting presentation was from Red Hat | 15:11 |
| witek | https://www.openstack.org/assets/presentation-media/OpenStack-Summit-2018-Prometheus-Operator-to-monitor-OpenStack.pdf | 15:11 |
| witek | they have admitted that Gnocchi is not a viable solution for monitoring at scale | 15:13 |
| joadavis | facinating. Scale was one of the main points of Gnocchi | 15:13 |
| witek | and proposed an architecture similar to Monasa's | 15:13 |
| witek | with Collectd, message bus and Prometheus | 15:14 |
| witek | everything deployed on OpenShift | 15:14 |
| dougsz | Quite the stack | 15:15 |
| witek | in general, my conclusion from the summit is that we should invest some more effort in the agent, to make it more accessible and useful for users | 15:16 |
| witek | we should define `core` plugins and support them better, add some testing | 15:17 |
| witek | what has come up in the PTG already, we should adevertise our support for Prometheus | 15:17 |
| dougsz | I think there are also some issues with some of the detection plugins not working well from inside a container | 15:17 |
| witek | yes, we have seen some as well, some fixed, some not | 15:18 |
| witek | we should also think about making official packages for the agent | 15:19 |
| witek | for Debian/Ubuntu and CentOS | 15:19 |
| dougsz | Official Ansible playbook could be nice as well | 15:20 |
| witek | have to check if there is one in OSA | 15:20 |
| witek | #action check for official Ansible playbook | 15:21 |
| joadavis | There is https://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ansible-os_monasca/latest/ but I'm not sure if it is up to date/usable | 15:21 |
| dougsz | We have forked one and got it working with Ubuntu/Centos/SuSE | 15:21 |
| dougsz | As you say it would be nice to have one under the Monasca namespace | 15:22 |
| witek | joadavis: that's for all Monasca, should be functional | 15:22 |
| joadavis | long ago we talked internally about contributing changes from Ardana to OSA, but haven't put time in to it | 15:22 |
| witek | dougsz: good to hear, perhaps we should move it to OSA? | 15:23 |
| witek | can you share the repo? | 15:23 |
| dougsz | https://github.com/stackhpc/ansible-role-monasca-agent | 15:23 |
| witek | thanks | 15:24 |
| witek | another topic which pulled some attention was auto-scaling | 15:24 |
| joadavis | https://github.com/ArdanaCLM/monasca-ansible is part of it. There are also repos for monasca-transform-ansible and spark-ansible | 15:24 |
| dougsz | 👍 | 15:25 |
| witek | from what I heard Monasca role in OSA should be working fine | 15:26 |
| witek | but does not has logging and monasca-transform | 15:26 |
| joadavis | or cassandra support from what I see | 15:26 |
| witek | correct | 15:26 |
| witek | we could ping the guys if they're interested adding support for these | 15:27 |
| witek | anyway, we've side-tracked a little | 15:27 |
| joadavis | and add monasca-ceilometer to the list. :) | 15:27 |
| witek | I think Ansible is not providing that kind of comfort as distribution packages | 15:28 |
| witek | and I think most operators expect to install it from the package | 15:29 |
| dougsz | I think we have a slightly different perspective. Galaxy roles have worked well for us. | 15:29 |
| witek | agree for your case | 15:29 |
| dougsz | Whatever official solution there is, it would be nice to import it to Kolla Ansible. Packages would work, or Galaxy role. Not sure about importing OSA components. | 15:30 |
| dougsz | Anyway, sorry for sidetracking! | 15:30 |
| witek | another think I wanted to mention is auto-scaling discussions in Forum | 15:31 |
| witek | they think about creating a new SIG for auto-scaling | 15:32 |
| witek | to unify approaches, identify problems, collect documentation | 15:32 |
| joadavis | so a separate SIG from self-healing? | 15:32 |
| witek | yes | 15:32 |
| witek | ricolin from Heat drives it | 15:32 |
| witek | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/autoscaling-integration-and-feedback | 15:33 |
| witek | self-healing had a meeting of course too: | 15:33 |
| witek | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/berlin-self-healing-sig-brainstorm | 15:33 |
| witek | another thought after Summit, we should put more attention to upgrading the middleware regularly | 15:35 |
| witek | in particular our ELK stack is very outdated | 15:35 |
| witek | dougsz: any comments about the summit from you? | 15:35 |
| dougsz | Was great to see so many people turn up to the Monasca meetings | 15:36 |
| witek | yes, that was indeed very positive | 15:36 |
| dougsz | I think you covered it well | 15:36 |
| witek | we also had a chat with Fdaisuke_ about plans of monasca-analytics | 15:37 |
| Fdaisuke_ | yes | 15:37 |
| witek | I asked for more work on monitoring related use-cases, like anomaly prediction or forecasting | 15:38 |
| Fdaisuke_ | We talked about monasca-analytics as follows | 15:39 |
| Fdaisuke_ | - Update top page of monasca-analytics | 15:39 |
| Fdaisuke_ | - Submit sample with monasca | 15:40 |
| Fdaisuke_ | And now, we update existing functions, and add new functions | 15:41 |
| Fdaisuke_ | for monasca-analytics | 15:41 |
| witek | thanks, yes, I would like to have some simple example use case, how the repo can be used with the rest of Monasca | 15:42 |
| witek | with easy step-by-step procedure | 15:42 |
| witek | oops, I wanted it to be a *short* recap | 15:43 |
| joadavis | :) | 15:43 |
| joadavis | I'm looking forward to the videos | 15:43 |
| witek | if there are no other comments, we can move on | 15:43 |
| witek | #topic specs | 15:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "specs (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:44 | |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/583803 | 15:44 |
| witek | I have added some small changes and comments yesterday | 15:45 |
| joadavis | thanks | 15:45 |
| joadavis | I'll take a look | 15:45 |
| witek | one question is, should we store all events in one ES index rotated daily? | 15:46 |
| witek | for admin project | 15:46 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/609055 | 15:47 |
| joadavis | I haven't looked at that side of events yet. And I'm not an ES expert. Anyone else have an opinion? | 15:47 |
| dougsz | What are the other options? Classify events and save those to separate indices? | 15:47 |
| dougsz | I suppose we still need to rotate them in that case. | 15:47 |
| witek | for logs we store them per tenant | 15:48 |
| witek | Kibana plugin filters the indices for a given project | 15:48 |
| witek | so you cannot see other projects' data | 15:48 |
| witek | for events, we could do similarly and spread events across projects | 15:49 |
| witek | there are some problems with that approach | 15:49 |
| dougsz | Yes - are all events associated with a project id? | 15:50 |
| witek | operator(admin) would have to change the index for every project | 15:50 |
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| witek | dougsz: that's another problem, not all events include project information | 15:50 |
| joadavis | some events, like keystone creating a user, are not associated with a project | 15:50 |
| dougsz | Hmm. It does seem easier to make them all admin only, at least to begin with. | 15:51 |
| dougsz | We could always have something which selectively copies out events to a tenants project if required in the future. | 15:52 |
| witek | folks, please think through and leave the comment in review | 15:52 |
| dougsz | 👍 | 15:53 |
| witek | for merging APIs https://review.openstack.org/609055 | 15:53 |
| witek | someone from our team will polish it this week | 15:53 |
| witek | and I think is ready to merge | 15:53 |
| witek | there are two others: | 15:54 |
| witek | Metrics retention policy enhancement | 15:54 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/547233 | 15:54 |
| witek | Spec for Performance metrics of Python Persister | 15:54 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/605782 | 15:54 |
| joadavis | I think both of those are ready to merge. We may have more details to add to metrics retention policy, but can add those in a subsequent commit | 15:55 |
| witek | OK, I'll try to find time to review | 15:56 |
| joadavis | thanks | 15:56 |
| witek | #topic self-healing meeting | 15:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "self-healing meeting (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:56 | |
| witek | one more announcement | 15:56 |
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| witek | Self-healing SIG has now a regular meeting | 15:56 |
| witek | every second Wed | 15:57 |
| witek | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Self-healing_SIG_Meeting | 15:57 |
| witek | at 9am and 5pm UTC | 15:57 |
| witek | the second one in one hour | 15:57 |
| witek | I have attended the morning one | 15:57 |
| witek | and advertised that we're looking for developers willing to work on Monasca - Vitrage integration | 15:58 |
| joadavis | cool | 15:58 |
| witek | that's all from me | 15:59 |
| witek | the time is also over | 15:59 |
| dougsz | thanks all, bye | 15:59 |
| witek | thank you everyone for joining | 15:59 |
| koji_n | thx! | 15:59 |
| witek | see you next time | 15:59 |
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| witek | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
| joadavis | bye | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 21 15:59:47 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-11-21-15.00.html | 15:59 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-11-21-15.00.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-11-21-15.00.log.html | 15:59 |
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