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| witek | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 5 15:00:24 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| witek | Hello everyone! | 15:00 |
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| dougsz | Hey all | 15:01 |
| joadavis | hello | 15:01 |
| witek | hi dougsz and joadavis | 15:01 |
| witek | I've created last minute agenda | 15:02 |
| witek | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:02 |
| witek | #topic Events Listener | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Events Listener (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:02 | |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/583803 | 15:02 |
| joadavis | Thanks again for the reviews | 15:03 |
| joadavis | I haven't groked all the nova cells concepts yet | 15:03 |
| witek | we have some constructive discussion in review | 15:03 |
| dougsz | I am pretty sketchy myself - I've mostly read the docs so far | 15:04 |
| dougsz | It's something we are adding support for in Kolla, and it would be nice to make sure it works well with the Events listener | 15:04 |
| witek | yes, agree | 15:05 |
| joadavis | For the first implementation, if we can get all the messages sent to the kafka monevents topic that may work | 15:06 |
| joadavis | I don't know if we need to separate events based on which cell they come from. Assuming there is some data in the dimensions that would identify the source cell for the event | 15:07 |
| witek | the issue dougsz is bringing up is, that there might be no connectivity between Cell message queue and Monasca cluster | 15:08 |
| joadavis | I had thought we could just use existing code for connecting to rabbitmq, but will need to do a quick check if it can handle multiple rabbitmq connections. But if there is no network connection allowed, that is a problem. | 15:08 |
| joadavis | ideas for options if there is no connectivity? | 15:09 |
| dougsz | I was thinking this might be a use case where posting events to the Monasca Events API would work well | 15:11 |
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| joadavis | yeah, that might be the way. Would we need a monasca service in each cell to listen to the cell's RabbitMQ for events then post them to the Events API? | 15:13 |
| witek | I'd suggest to seek some more expert knowledge on Nova Cells | 15:13 |
| dougsz | That was the way I imagined it could work. | 15:13 |
| joadavis | monasca service or modified monasca agent | 15:13 |
| witek | how they are supposed to be deployed | 15:13 |
| joadavis | yes | 15:13 |
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| dougsz | We might be able to get some info from Cern | 15:14 |
| dougsz | I will ask around | 15:14 |
| joadavis | thanks | 15:14 |
| witek | good idea, thanks | 15:14 |
| witek | let's continue the discussion in review | 15:15 |
| witek | the last unclarified question seems to be, how the listener is supposed to be delpoyed | 15:15 |
| witek | as part of API, or as separate new Monasca service | 15:16 |
| witek | no, actually not the only one | 15:16 |
| witek | should it send to Kafka, or to Events API? | 15:17 |
| witek | #topic Python 3 support | 15:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Python 3 support (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:18 | |
| joadavis | sending to Kafka seems more efficient. Though we can use the API if needed for cells | 15:18 |
| joadavis | I took a quick look at the py3 cassandra failure you mentioned in the agenda | 15:19 |
| joadavis | That is a strange tempest error, and not obviously related to cassandra | 15:19 |
| joadavis | but I pinged sgrasley and jgu to see if they know of any issues with cassandra clients and py3 | 15:19 |
| witek | adriancz has mentioned issues with string handling | 15:20 |
| witek | he has set up CI jobs for running tempest tests with Python 3 | 15:21 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/619987 | 15:21 |
| witek | the jobs are marked as non-voting for now, but we should fix them as soon as possible | 15:22 |
| witek | thanks joadavis for forwarding this | 15:23 |
| joadavis | agreed. (though I wish all zuul tests were more predictable - we still get many random failures) | 15:24 |
| joadavis | (but I'll stop complaining now) | 15:24 |
| witek | :) | 15:24 |
| witek | I have observed long queues of Zuul jobs recently | 15:25 |
| witek | at some point it has taken several hours before the jobs were even started | 15:26 |
| joadavis | I tried initiating 3 rechecks over in ceilometer repos yesterday for different random failures | 15:26 |
| dougsz | :( | 15:26 |
| witek | did it improve anything? | 15:27 |
| joadavis | at least one passed (it was the mailing list change). I need to read my email and see about the rest | 15:27 |
| joadavis | I think something changed in Zuul. in the past when you did a recheck it would post back a message indicating it started the gates, but now I don't see one until it finishes | 15:28 |
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| witek | but you can check the status on http://zuul.openstack.org/status | 15:29 |
| joadavis | yes | 15:29 |
| witek | let's move on | 15:29 |
| witek | #topic project health (feedback for TC) | 15:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "project health (feedback for TC) (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:30 | |
| witek | gmann has contacted me and asked for feedback regarding Monasca project health | 15:30 |
| witek | TC tries to track potential issues in projects | 15:30 |
| witek | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_health_tracker | 15:31 |
| witek | he has asked among others if there is anything TC could do to support our project? | 15:31 |
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| witek | please let me know, if you have ideas | 15:33 |
| witek | #topic Trove + Monasca + Vitrage + Mistral | 15:33 |
| joadavis | For us, I think we have a relatively healthy community, though would always like more contributors (as all the projects say) | 15:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Trove + Monasca + Vitrage + Mistral (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:33 | |
| witek | joadavis: agree, we have very few active contributors | 15:34 |
| joadavis | I think the TC could help in coordinating and supporting other services that consume monasca data, such as watcher. Or vitrage | 15:34 |
| joadavis | and the SIGs help with that too | 15:34 |
| joadavis | and that transitions to our next topic. :) | 15:34 |
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| witek | thanks joadavis, I thinks we've said something similar to dhellmann during the Denver PTG | 15:36 |
| joadavis | dumb question: is Trove still around? I hadn't heard about it in a year or so | 15:37 |
| witek | OK, let's move to the Trove topic | 15:37 |
| witek | I think the project was sort of abandoned | 15:37 |
| witek | and then Samsung jumped in | 15:37 |
| witek | they have given a presentation in Berlin | 15:39 |
| dougsz | I recall Bartosz Żurkowski asking about using Monasca to monitor it before the Berlin summit | 15:39 |
| witek | https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/summit-schedule/events/22273/towards-production-grade-database-as-a-service-in-openstack | 15:39 |
| dougsz | ( a Trove core) | 15:39 |
| dougsz | Not sure where he got to | 15:39 |
| dougsz | Ah, you just answered that :) | 15:39 |
| witek | I have missed that presentation | 15:40 |
| witek | but they presented POC for integration between Trove, Monasca, Vitrage and Mistral | 15:40 |
| joadavis | cool | 15:40 |
| witek | a draft for Monasca datasource in Vitrage has been pushed just today | 15:41 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/622899 | 15:41 |
| witek | Ifat has reported this in the self-healing meeting today | 15:41 |
| witek | and they are willing to help to get this merged | 15:42 |
| joadavis | Do they need any work on the Monasca side for this? other than configuring a webhook to publish to Vitrage? | 15:43 |
| witek | I think not | 15:43 |
| witek | we have discussed an option for sending Monasca notifications via message queue | 15:44 |
| witek | which is kind of default in Vitrage | 15:45 |
| witek | but I think it's not necessary at the end | 15:45 |
| witek | that's all from my side | 15:46 |
| witek | I didn't come to merging notification changes | 15:46 |
| witek | but I pushed the Alembic devstack change, to have it all complete | 15:47 |
| witek | turned out to be pretty easy | 15:47 |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/622361 | 15:47 |
| dougsz | thanks witek | 15:48 |
| joadavis | I filed two new stories yesterday. One is a simple cleanup of some ceilometer monitoring in the agent. | 15:48 |
| joadavis | The other is https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2004539 and might take a bit more work | 15:48 |
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| joadavis | I don't know if removing an alarm configuration for http_alive was supported well. | 15:49 |
| joadavis | I may follow up with sc on this to see if he has any ideas. | 15:49 |
| witek | alarm or collector configuration? | 15:50 |
| joadavis | sorry, for the agent collector configuration | 15:50 |
| witek | will you or someone from SUSE work on this? | 15:51 |
| joadavis | the use case is that a compute host has been removed, so we want to do cleanup. but at this point, we just know the hostname and not all the target_hostnames used in setting up the configuration | 15:51 |
| joadavis | I'm working on it currently | 15:51 |
| witek | OK, thanks | 15:51 |
| joadavis | I'm sharing in case anyone has insight in to the agent. | 15:52 |
| joadavis | otherwise, that is enough from me | 15:52 |
| dougsz | sorry, haven't hit this use case yet | 15:52 |
| joadavis | we put a lot of work in to getting a cloud up, not as much in to removing parts of it. :) | 15:53 |
| witek | :) | 15:53 |
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| witek | OK, I'll be wrapping up if there is nothing else | 15:55 |
| witek | thank you for joining | 15:55 |
| witek | and see you next week | 15:55 |
| witek | for interested | 15:56 |
| joadavis | goodbye | 15:56 |
| witek | second round of self-healing meeting starts in one hour | 15:56 |
| witek | in #openstack-self-healing | 15:56 |
| witek | bye bye | 15:56 |
| dougsz | bye all | 15:56 |
| witek | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 5 15:56:53 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-12-05-15.00.html | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-12-05-15.00.txt | 15:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-12-05-15.00.log.html | 15:56 |
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