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| gibi | #startmeeting nova | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 12 16:00:09 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 16:00 |
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| gibi | o/ | 16:00 |
| bauzas | \o | 16:00 |
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| bauzas | (while on another team meeting) | 16:01 |
| artom | Yeah, I failed to see this time change coming, so almost all of RH is on our internal team call as well | 16:01 |
| gmann | o/ | 16:01 |
| gibi | #topic new meeting time | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "new meeting time (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:01 | |
| gibi | artom: sorry to hear that. Can we do someting about it? | 16:02 |
| gibi | artom: is it a permanently booked slot for RH? | 16:02 |
| bauzas | gibi: artom: let's discuss this off this meeting | 16:03 |
| gibi | bauzas: ack | 16:03 |
| gibi | then lets get started | 16:03 |
| gibi | #topic Last meeting | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Last meeting (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:03 | |
| gibi | Minutes from last meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-03-05-14.00.html | 16:03 |
| gibi | You might noticed that since the last meeting I took over the PTL role from Eric | 16:04 |
| gibi | I hope we can have a proper PTL election in April | 16:04 |
| gibi | but until that you stuck with me | 16:04 |
| gibi | Any other business we need to take up from the last meeting? | 16:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: thank you for doing that :) | 16:05 |
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| lyarwood | \o | 16:06 |
| gibi | lyarwood: o/ | 16:06 |
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| lyarwood | joined the wrong channel sorry | 16:06 |
| gibi | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:06 | |
| gibi | we dont have critical bugs | 16:06 |
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| gmann | lyarwood: :) i was also looking into different one | 16:06 |
| gibi | but we have an ever growing untriaged bug list | 16:06 |
| gibi | #link 111 new untriaged bugs (+3 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 16:07 |
| lyarwood | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#1844929 & http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#1813789 keep coming up in my reviews btw | 16:07 |
| gibi | do you have any idea how to tackle it? | 16:07 |
| gmann | gibi: from you ML, idea is to rotate or single bug tracker or somthing | 16:07 |
| gibi | gmann: yepp #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-March/013157.html | 16:07 |
| gibi | I think rotation only works if there is enough people subscribing to it that it is not frequent for a single dev | 16:08 |
| gmann | I can start on this but I would not be able to triage all area bugs and ping interested people for those to triage/discuss? | 16:08 |
| gibi | gmann: trigaing some of the bug already helps | 16:09 |
| gibi | gmann: and it is totally OK to involve others | 16:09 |
| gmann | i mean if 'ping interested people for bugs which i cannot triage to triage/discuss? ' ok? or expectation is to triage all :) | 16:09 |
| gmann | ok | 16:09 |
| gibi | gmann: triage what you can. thanks! | 16:09 |
| gmann | I will start from next week then. | 16:09 |
| gmann | let's see how much help i can do | 16:10 |
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| gibi | if other are not subscribing it will be painful. I will try to dedicate my Thrusday morning for bugs | 16:11 |
| gibi | anyhow moving on to lyarwood's issue | 16:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | gmann: we used to add tags to unknown stuff, then ping experts in that area, but adding the tag is a step forward from being untouched | 16:12 |
| gmann | johnthetubaguy: ok. that is nice. | 16:12 |
| gibi | lyarwood: do you have a way forward with those failing tests or you need help? | 16:12 |
| gmann | i remember the expert list area wise on wiki now | 16:12 |
| lyarwood | gibi: I don't have a way forward, some ironic folks were also pinging in the channel about these earlier | 16:13 |
| lyarwood | gibi: raising here for awareness | 16:13 |
| lyarwood | gibi: I'll try to look again at the posted changes over the next week | 16:13 |
| gibi | lyarwood: if nothing happens then please raise it again next week and I will try to dedicate some time | 16:14 |
| lyarwood | ack will do thanks | 16:15 |
| gibi | lyarwood: thanks for raising | 16:15 |
| gibi | any other bugs that need discussion? | 16:15 |
| gibi | #topic Release Planning | 16:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release Planning (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:17 | |
| gibi | Started Ussuri cycle highlight doc. So far I only added things that has already been merged. | 16:17 |
| gibi | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/712498/ | 16:17 |
| gibi | anything about releases? | 16:18 |
| gibi | #topic stable branches | 16:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stable branches (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:18 | |
| gibi | rocky is in extended maintenance mode. thanks lyarwood | 16:19 |
| gibi | lyarwood: any newsworthy thing from stable? | 16:19 |
| lyarwood | I was going to post to the ML about stable/pike and the LM job failing | 16:19 |
| lyarwood | but nothing other than that | 16:19 |
| lyarwood | I was going to suggest we make the stable/pike LM job NV btw | 16:19 |
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| gibi | lyarwood: thanks | 16:20 |
| lyarwood | it's EM, I don't have any drive to fix it so unless others do I think it needs to be NV | 16:20 |
| lyarwood | np | 16:20 |
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| gibi | my employer has some commitment towards pike so I will try to look at that and pull in elod as much as I can | 16:20 |
| gmann | +1 | 16:20 |
| gibi | but end of the they I'm not against dropping LM job if we cannot fix it | 16:21 |
| gibi | s/dropping/making non voting/ | 16:21 |
| lyarwood | ack understood | 16:21 |
| gibi | #topic PTG/Summit planning | 16:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG/Summit planning (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:22 | |
| gibi | #link PTG etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-victoria-ptg | 16:22 |
| gibi | I got the news that I cannot travel to Vancouver and I feel the fundation is also close to cancel the event | 16:23 |
| gibi | so | 16:23 |
| gibi | What are your feelings about the possibility of a virtual PTG? | 16:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | very positive, from where I am sat, kolla have had some success | 16:23 |
| gmann | i think that is good idea. even PTG happen and end up with small number of people | 16:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | our numbers were too big before, but now I guess it seems like it might be manageable? | 16:24 |
| gmann | yeah, and there is no harm in giving try. | 16:24 |
| lyarwood | yup same, a time limited (~4 hour slot per day) virtual PTG would be a great way to go given the situation | 16:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | of course, its going to suck for some people being up a silly o'clock | 16:24 |
| gibi | I cannot really commit to a full video experience due to timezone issues. | 16:24 |
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| lyarwood | a movable 4 hour slot might make that easier but yeah it's always going to awkward with timezones | 16:25 |
| sean-k-mooney | i have had some good experice with remote attending midcycles | 16:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | its not quite as intrusive as several days away though | 16:25 |
| gibi | I imagine topic are pre-discussed via ML and if a topic needs some face time then the involved people fined a timeslot | 16:25 |
| sean-k-mooney | but im not sure how it would work for a full ptg were all are remote | 16:25 |
| sean-k-mooney | i think its worth considering however | 16:25 |
| bauzas | I provided my opinions | 16:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | kolla have done it, it didn't seem too bad with full remote | 16:26 |
| sean-k-mooney | there is a fondation wide converstaion too | 16:26 |
| sean-k-mooney | so if the ptg is cancled we will have a different choice | 16:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | the problem is tooling that doesn't exclude, etc, etc | 16:26 |
| sean-k-mooney | either do no ptg or a virutal one | 16:26 |
| gibi | bauzas: I just saw your mail | 16:26 |
| bauzas | fwiw, I'm bit afraid of having a virtual PTG that would be a video meeting within say, US TZ | 16:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: +1 of careful topic picks and time votes | 16:27 |
| bauzas | I did this for a midcycle | 16:27 |
| gmann | sean-k-mooney: but virtual one will be project own arrangement or foundation can do. | 16:27 |
| sean-k-mooney | gmann: that is not clear currnetly | 16:27 |
| gmann | i did see foundation can do in ML but may be once we decide no PTG | 16:27 |
| gmann | yeah | 16:27 |
| sean-k-mooney | gmann: if the fondation cancels the physical ptg | 16:27 |
| bauzas | and I had issues with | 16:27 |
| sean-k-mooney | then they may be able to help arrage a virtual one | 16:27 |
| gmann | i have canceled QA one due to attendance but not thought of virtual one yet | 16:28 |
| sean-k-mooney | people might want to follow http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-March/013127.html | 16:29 |
| gibi | I think we can start the whole thing on the ML like a pre-ptg so everybody will have a way get involved | 16:29 |
| gibi | sean-k-mooney: thanks | 16:29 |
| sean-k-mooney | the pre-ptg emails is something we can do in either case | 16:29 |
| gmann | +1 | 16:29 |
| gibi | sean-k-mooney: yeah | 16:29 |
| sean-k-mooney | i find them hard to follow | 16:29 |
| gibi | sean-k-mooney: me too but it is better than nothing | 16:30 |
| sean-k-mooney | but i know other like it | 16:30 |
| sean-k-mooney | ya | 16:30 |
| gibi | sean-k-mooney: or we can just ping people to start discussing things on the etherpad | 16:30 |
| gibi | anyhow we have still plenty of weeks to figure it out. but it is good that start the thinking | 16:31 |
| gibi | I will summarize this back to the ML thread | 16:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | I like the idea of a spec with disagreement being a good start to a video conversation, but yeah, another time | 16:31 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: sure, that is a good indication | 16:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | it means you did the pre work :) | 16:32 |
| gibi | #action gibi to make a virtual ptg proposal to the ML thread with more detals | 16:32 |
| gibi | #topic Sub/related team Highlights | 16:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sub/related team Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:32 | |
| gibi | Placement (tetsuro) | 16:32 |
| gibi | I saw melwitt and tetsuro working on the consumer_types series | 16:33 |
| gibi | but I think that is basically all | 16:33 |
| gibi | API (gmann) | 16:34 |
| gmann | I did not send the updates on ML. API BPs are going with normal review and policy refresh: many of the patches are merged. I will continue on those | 16:34 |
| gmann | there is nothing else from my side this week. may be johnthetubaguy can add something if he has any | 16:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | gmann: policy refresh is exciting, been needing this for years :) | 16:34 |
| gmann | yeah, I will burn more policy before cmg Monday | 16:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | nothing more from me | 16:35 |
| gibi | I'm happy to see that it is moving forward | 16:35 |
| gibi | thanks | 16:35 |
| gibi | #topic Stuck Reviews | 16:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:35 | |
| gibi | nothing on the agenda | 16:35 |
| gibi | anything to add now? | 16:36 |
| lyarwood | a quick one from me, not sure if this is the right section | 16:36 |
| gibi | #topic Open discussion | 16:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:37 | |
| gibi | lyarwood: go | 16:37 |
| lyarwood | https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+topic:workaround_native_luksv1 - I'm trying to land some workaround options, I'm not sure if these need a bug or specless BP at the moment | 16:37 |
| lyarwood | gibi: regardless I was going to ask for reviews shortly anyway but wanted to first workaround how to track this | 16:38 |
| lyarwood | gibi: if a spec is required I'll punt to V | 16:38 |
| gibi | lyarwood: I saw workaround flags appearing in bugfixs before | 16:39 |
| gibi | like https://review.opendev.org/#/c/618478/ | 16:39 |
| lyarwood | gibi: ack I can write up a bug for this ten | 16:39 |
| lyarwood | then* | 16:39 |
| gibi | ack, bug works for me | 16:40 |
| lyarwood | gibi: thanks | 16:40 |
| gibi | and as I already promissed I will look at the fixes as it needs a non RH core | 16:40 |
| lyarwood | https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bp/virt-bfv-instance-rescue - is also ready for non-RH core review FWIW | 16:40 |
| gibi | lyarwood: noted :) | 16:41 |
| lyarwood | many many thanks gibi, I hate begging for reviews but I guess needs must at the moment :) | 16:41 |
| gibi | non RH core situation is not pretty so I understand | 16:42 |
| gibi | anything else to discuss? | 16:43 |
| gibi | going once | 16:43 |
| gibi | going twice | 16:44 |
| gibi | thank you all. see you around | 16:44 |
| gmann | thanks gibi for chair | 16:44 |
| gibi | #endmeeting | 16:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:45 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 12 16:45:02 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-03-12-16.00.html | 16:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-03-12-16.00.txt | 16:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-03-12-16.00.log.html | 16:45 |
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