Thursday, 2020-03-26

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gibi#startmeeting nova16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Mar 26 16:00:29 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)"16:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'16:00
dansmitho/ (still on this call)16:00
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gibiwe have a pretty long agenda. Let's get started16:01
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gibi#topic Last meeting16:01
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gibi#link Minutes from last meeting:
gibigibi promised to follow up on the ML about the plans for a virtual PTG.16:02
gibiproposal sent to the ML #link but I'm open to any suggestion about the format.16:02
gibilet's continue that on the ML16:02
gibiWe had a discussion about the two company rule last week.16:02
gibi     the resulting ML thread #link
gibi    based on the different discussion I'm now proposing a compromise #link Please raise your voice if you don't like it til next Tuesday16:03
bauzascool, i need to write my opinions for the both threads16:03
gibibauzas: thanks16:03
gibiwe discussed the core situation last week as well. It is resulted in a nomination of two new cores. Cores, please cast your votes on the ML til next Monday16:03
gibi    lyarwood #link
gibi    gmann #link
gibiAnything else we need to discuss from the last meeting?16:04
gibi#topic Bugs (stuck/critical)16:05
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gibiNo Critical bugs16:05
gibi#link 102 new untriaged bugs (+3 since the last meeting):
gibiI wanted but had no time to triage bugs this week :/16:05
gibiany help is appreciated16:06
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gibianything about bugs?16:06
gibimelwitt, lyarwood, gmann: how is the gate doing recently?16:07
gmannsorry did not get chance to do bug thins this week. few from previous week 'need-discussion' completed the discussion part and in progress of fix or in todo list.16:07
gibigmann: thanks16:07
bauzasI'd love too16:07
bauzaswe're close to the RC period and I'm a bit afraid16:07
bauzasbut once I'm done with all the stuff I have, I'll try to triage16:08
gmanngibi: not seen any frequent occurring issue on gate but live migration job status can be updated by melwitt or lyarwood16:08
gibigmann: thanks.16:09
gmannFYI, fluctuate network issue is merged now. (there might be few more tests, so keep reporting or push patch) -
lyarwood\o hey sorry just back16:10
lyarwoodgibi: LM job should be stable now, let me know if it isn't please.16:10
gibilyarwood: thank you16:10
gibi#topic Release Planning16:10
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gibiOne week until "Final release for non-client libraries" (Apr 3.)16:10
gibios-vif #link
gibios-resource-classes #link
gibios-traits #link
gibiI see nothing open that is a must-have for Ussuri.16:11
gibibut please shout if I missed something16:11
sean-k-mooneygibi: the pending os-vif changes wont merge in ussuri16:11
gibisean-k-mooney: yeah I they have -W on them16:11
sean-k-mooneythey need ovs changes to merge first and that wont happen in time16:11
gibiWho will propose the releases for these libs next week? sean-k-mooney could you take os-vif?16:12
gibiif nobody signs up for os-traits and os-resource-classes then I will propose them16:13
gibiTwo weeks until Milestone 316:13
sean-k-mooneyi can proably take a look at doing that too since ill be doing the os-vif one16:13
gibisean-k-mooney: that would be awesome16:14
gibiping me if you stuck16:14
gibiM3 means Feature Freeze16:14
gibifrom the 30 approved BPs for Ussuri 8 is already implemented \o/16:14
johnthetubaguygibi: are those libs owned by placement now?16:14
gibijohnthetubaguy: honestly I don't know16:14
gibiI can ping tetsuro about it16:14
johnthetubaguyI was just looking here:
johnthetubaguyworth a chat to make sure I guess :)16:15
johnthetubaguythey sure matter to us, either way16:15
gibijeah I will let tetsuro know that he is supposed to handle it :)16:15
sean-k-mooneyjohnthetubaguy: yes they are16:15
gibimoving back to FF16:16
gibiI did a quick scan an targeted 12 from the remaining 22 BPs to ussuri-3 #link These are the ones I feel still has chance to be finished before the freeze.16:16
gibiif something is missing then please let me know16:16
bauzasI'll upload a new one soon but I'll ping you16:18
gibibauzas: yeah some of you bp was not started but If you have code now then I can target it to ussuri-316:19
johnthetubaguyI am still pretending my unified limits stuff might be ready, but I am not sure we have the review bandwidth16:19
gibijohnthetubaguy: I glanced at the series but I had not time to dig into it maybe next week16:19
sean-k-mooneyspeaking fo review bandwith we might want to start using the runways again to priortise it or just make a concouse effort to look at that list16:20
johnthetubaguyno worries, its just one of those multi-year things that finally feels closer, like policy16:20
johnthetubaguy+1 on runways again, to focus our efforts to get more things over the line16:21
gibisean-k-mooney, johnthetubaguy: sure, if you have or know about a bp that is really close then put that in the queue16:21
gmannjohnthetubaguy: i will start reviewing those but keeping policy stuff on priority for now. may be from Monday, I will be able to16:21
johnthetubaguygmann: +1 on getting policy stuff up for review being the highest priority there16:22
gibipolicy and cyborg integration is the two highest prio bp in lauchpad now16:23
johnthetubaguyI haven't yet met an operator that isn't hurting because we don't have that policy stuff yet16:23
johnthetubaguythere might be too many negatives there16:23
gibianything else on the FF ?16:24
sean-k-mooneygibi: i assume we will try to avoid FF exceptions unless on of the bluepirts you have targeted to u3 misses16:24
sean-k-mooneyideally we would not have any exceptions but i guess we will see how it goes16:25
gibiI prefere not to have exception but if a bp is close (e.g. has +2) then I think we are willing to consider16:25
sean-k-mooneyok we can proably move on16:26
gibiMilestone 3 also means: Final release for client libraries16:27
gibiwe have patches open #link but these are still tight to open nova patches.16:27
gibiyou have have anything important then let me know16:27
gibianything else about the release?16:28
gibi#topic Stable Branches16:29
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gibilyarwood: anything newsworthy?16:29
gibiI guess that means no :)16:31
gibi#topic Sub/related team Highlights16:31
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gibiPlacement (tetsuro)16:31
gibiAPI (gmann)16:32
lyarwoodgibi: no sorry16:32
gmanndeleted_on_termination things you already have on agenda for Open Discussion. nothing else than ML updates or what we already discussed.16:33
gibilyarwood: np16:33
gibiUpdates on ML:
gibigmann: thanks16:33
gibi#topic Stuck Reviews16:33
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gibi(brinzhang_): is stuck on whether we want a PATCH API or not.16:33
gibithis was since discussed on #openstack-nova16:33
gibiand the current consensus is to change the API design to use PUT instead16:34
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dansmithI didn't catch up on this yet,16:34
dansmithbut it sounds like everyone is okay with it, but we don't know about brin himself yet?16:34
gibidansmith: yes, brin said he cannot attend the meting16:34
gibisummary is in now so brin will see it tomorrow16:35
dansmithI will commit to prioritized review of that when the change is done16:35
gibiI think dansmith and I will help him if needed16:35
gmannwill we update spec doc also for that ?16:35
gibigmann: yes, that is needed too16:35
gmannjust replacing PUT to PATCH16:35
dansmithwe should, but we can do that later16:35
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gmannkind of doc update16:36
dansmithlet's focus on getting the code done16:36
gibiany other stuck review we need to talk about?16:36
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johnthetubaguyI am suggesting we stop documenting the existing PUT API that should only be used by Cinder, to help remove confusion.16:37
gibijohnthetubaguy: would that confuse Cinder devs?16:37
dansmithjohnthetubaguy: as I said, i think that it will be easier to document the put as primarily for updating the flag, but with a note:: that the volume_id can be updated under certain circumstances16:37
dansmithnot sure we should really remove it entirely, but make the swap look like the weird stepchild instead of the primary reason for a PUT of that resource16:38
johnthetubaguydansmith: true and gibi: possibly16:38
johnthetubaguydansmith: that is a nice way of looking at it, I am sold.16:38
gmanndansmith:  removing swap things from api-ref can make it internal though16:38
dansmithgmann: it's not internal16:38
gmannbut we except users not to use this right ?16:39
dansmithif we had a separate document of "friend" APIs for services only, then we could put it there, but we don't16:39
dansmithgmann: I've actually heard of people using that API for reasons they shouldn't16:39
dansmithbut still, I don't think we should un-document it just because we expect only cinder to call it16:39
dansmiththink of how much of the neutron api would be undocumented if they did that for nova16:40
sean-k-mooneyhopefully ironic a zun would close some of the gaps but that is a fair point16:40
gmannohk. +1 on making primary reason as update resource not swap at least.16:40
gmanncinder is kind of users for nova16:41
gibiany other stuck review we need to talk about?16:41
gibi#topic Open discussion16:42
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gibijust a heads up16:42
gibi(gibi): Note that this weekend EU goes to summer time (e.g. I will go from UTC + 1 to UTC + 2) but the meeting remains at 16:00 UTC.16:42
gibiany other topic to discuss?16:43
gibithen lets close this. Thanks for coming. Take case and wash your hands!16:45
gibiTake care I mean16:45
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Mar 26 16:45:31 2020 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at . (v 0.1.4)16:45
openstackMinutes (text):
bauzasthanks gibi16:45
gmannthanks gibi for chair.16:45
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