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| gibi | #startmeeting nova | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 26 16:00:29 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 16:00 |
| gibi | o/ | 16:00 |
| dansmith | o/ (still on this call) | 16:00 |
| gmann | o/ | 16:00 |
| bauzas | \o | 16:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 16:01 |
| artom | o/ | 16:01 |
| gibi | we have a pretty long agenda. Let's get started | 16:01 |
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| gibi | #topic Last meeting | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Last meeting (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:01 | |
| gibi | #link Minutes from last meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-03-19-16.00.log.html | 16:02 |
| gibi | gibi promised to follow up on the ML about the plans for a virtual PTG. | 16:02 |
| gibi | proposal sent to the ML #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-March/013555.html but I'm open to any suggestion about the format. | 16:02 |
| gibi | let's continue that on the ML | 16:02 |
| gibi | We had a discussion about the two company rule last week. | 16:02 |
| gibi | the resulting ML thread #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-March/013423.html | 16:03 |
| gibi | based on the different discussion I'm now proposing a compromise #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-March/013553.html Please raise your voice if you don't like it til next Tuesday | 16:03 |
| bauzas | cool, i need to write my opinions for the both threads | 16:03 |
| gibi | bauzas: thanks | 16:03 |
| gibi | we discussed the core situation last week as well. It is resulted in a nomination of two new cores. Cores, please cast your votes on the ML til next Monday | 16:03 |
| gibi | lyarwood #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-March/013511.html | 16:03 |
| gibi | gmann #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-March/013519.html | 16:04 |
| gibi | Anything else we need to discuss from the last meeting? | 16:04 |
| gibi | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:05 | |
| gibi | No Critical bugs | 16:05 |
| gibi | #link 102 new untriaged bugs (+3 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 16:05 |
| gibi | I wanted but had no time to triage bugs this week :/ | 16:05 |
| gibi | any help is appreciated | 16:06 |
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| gibi | anything about bugs? | 16:06 |
| gibi | melwitt, lyarwood, gmann: how is the gate doing recently? | 16:07 |
| gmann | sorry did not get chance to do bug thins this week. few from previous week 'need-discussion' completed the discussion part and in progress of fix or in todo list. | 16:07 |
| gibi | gmann: thanks | 16:07 |
| bauzas | I'd love too | 16:07 |
| bauzas | we're close to the RC period and I'm a bit afraid | 16:07 |
| bauzas | but once I'm done with all the stuff I have, I'll try to triage | 16:08 |
| gibi | thanks | 16:08 |
| gmann | gibi: not seen any frequent occurring issue on gate but live migration job status can be updated by melwitt or lyarwood | 16:08 |
| gibi | gmann: thanks. | 16:09 |
| gmann | FYI, fluctuate network issue is merged now. (there might be few more tests, so keep reporting or push patch) - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711049/ | 16:09 |
| gibi | awesome | 16:10 |
| lyarwood | \o hey sorry just back | 16:10 |
| lyarwood | gibi: LM job should be stable now, let me know if it isn't please. | 16:10 |
| gibi | lyarwood: thank you | 16:10 |
| gibi | #topic Release Planning | 16:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release Planning (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:10 | |
| gibi | One week until "Final release for non-client libraries" (Apr 3.) | 16:10 |
| gibi | os-vif #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/os-vif+status:open | 16:11 |
| gibi | os-resource-classes #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/os-resource-classes+status:open | 16:11 |
| gibi | os-traits #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/os-traits+status:open | 16:11 |
| gibi | I see nothing open that is a must-have for Ussuri. | 16:11 |
| gibi | but please shout if I missed something | 16:11 |
| sean-k-mooney | gibi: the pending os-vif changes wont merge in ussuri | 16:11 |
| gibi | sean-k-mooney: yeah I they have -W on them | 16:11 |
| sean-k-mooney | they need ovs changes to merge first and that wont happen in time | 16:11 |
| gibi | Who will propose the releases for these libs next week? sean-k-mooney could you take os-vif? | 16:12 |
| sean-k-mooney | sure | 16:12 |
| gibi | thanks | 16:12 |
| gibi | if nobody signs up for os-traits and os-resource-classes then I will propose them | 16:13 |
| gibi | Two weeks until Milestone 3 | 16:13 |
| sean-k-mooney | i can proably take a look at doing that too since ill be doing the os-vif one | 16:13 |
| gibi | sean-k-mooney: that would be awesome | 16:14 |
| gibi | ping me if you stuck | 16:14 |
| gibi | M3 means Feature Freeze | 16:14 |
| gibi | from the 30 approved BPs for Ussuri 8 is already implemented \o/ | 16:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: are those libs owned by placement now? | 16:14 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: honestly I don't know | 16:14 |
| gibi | I can ping tetsuro about it | 16:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | I was just looking here: https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/projects.yaml#L2592 | 16:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | worth a chat to make sure I guess :) | 16:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | they sure matter to us, either way | 16:15 |
| gibi | jeah I will let tetsuro know that he is supposed to handle it :) | 16:15 |
| sean-k-mooney | johnthetubaguy: yes they are | 16:15 |
| sean-k-mooney | https://opendev.org/openstack/governance/src/branch/master/reference/projects.yaml#L2570-L2597 | 16:15 |
| gibi | moving back to FF | 16:16 |
| gibi | I did a quick scan an targeted 12 from the remaining 22 BPs to ussuri-3 #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/ussuri-3 These are the ones I feel still has chance to be finished before the freeze. | 16:16 |
| gibi | if something is missing then please let me know | 16:16 |
| bauzas | I'll upload a new one soon but I'll ping you | 16:18 |
| gibi | bauzas: yeah some of you bp was not started but If you have code now then I can target it to ussuri-3 | 16:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am still pretending my unified limits stuff might be ready, but I am not sure we have the review bandwidth | 16:19 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: I glanced at the series but I had not time to dig into it maybe next week | 16:19 |
| sean-k-mooney | speaking fo review bandwith we might want to start using the runways again to priortise it or just make a concouse effort to look at that list | 16:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | no worries, its just one of those multi-year things that finally feels closer, like policy | 16:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | +1 on runways again, to focus our efforts to get more things over the line | 16:21 |
| gibi | sean-k-mooney, johnthetubaguy: sure, if you have or know about a bp that is really close then put that in the queue | 16:21 |
| gmann | johnthetubaguy: i will start reviewing those but keeping policy stuff on priority for now. may be from Monday, I will be able to | 16:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | gmann: +1 on getting policy stuff up for review being the highest priority there | 16:22 |
| gibi | policy and cyborg integration is the two highest prio bp in lauchpad now | 16:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | I haven't yet met an operator that isn't hurting because we don't have that policy stuff yet | 16:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | there might be too many negatives there | 16:23 |
| gibi | anything else on the FF ? | 16:24 |
| sean-k-mooney | gibi: i assume we will try to avoid FF exceptions unless on of the bluepirts you have targeted to u3 misses | 16:24 |
| sean-k-mooney | ideally we would not have any exceptions but i guess we will see how it goes | 16:25 |
| gibi | I prefere not to have exception but if a bp is close (e.g. has +2) then I think we are willing to consider | 16:25 |
| sean-k-mooney | ok we can proably move on | 16:26 |
| gibi | Milestone 3 also means: Final release for client libraries | 16:27 |
| gibi | we have patches open #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/python-novaclient+status:open but these are still tight to open nova patches. | 16:27 |
| gibi | you have have anything important then let me know | 16:27 |
| gibi | anything else about the release? | 16:28 |
| gibi | #topic Stable Branches | 16:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable Branches (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:29 | |
| gibi | lyarwood: anything newsworthy? | 16:29 |
| gibi | I guess that means no :) | 16:31 |
| gibi | #topic Sub/related team Highlights | 16:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sub/related team Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:31 | |
| gibi | Placement (tetsuro) | 16:31 |
| gibi | API (gmann) | 16:32 |
| lyarwood | gibi: no sorry | 16:32 |
| gmann | deleted_on_termination things you already have on agenda for Open Discussion. nothing else than ML updates or what we already discussed. | 16:33 |
| gibi | lyarwood: np | 16:33 |
| gibi | Updates on ML: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-March/013615.html | 16:33 |
| gibi | gmann: thanks | 16:33 |
| gibi | #topic Stuck Reviews | 16:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:33 | |
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| gibi | (brinzhang_): https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/destroy-instance-with-datavolume is stuck on whether we want a PATCH API or not. | 16:33 |
| gibi | this was since discussed on #openstack-nova | 16:33 |
| gibi | and the current consensus is to change the API design to use PUT instead | 16:34 |
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| dansmith | I didn't catch up on this yet, | 16:34 |
| dansmith | but it sounds like everyone is okay with it, but we don't know about brin himself yet? | 16:34 |
| gibi | dansmith: yes, brin said he cannot attend the meting | 16:34 |
| dansmith | ack | 16:34 |
| gibi | summary is in https://review.opendev.org/#/c/693828/ now so brin will see it tomorrow | 16:35 |
| dansmith | I will commit to prioritized review of that when the change is done | 16:35 |
| gibi | I think dansmith and I will help him if needed | 16:35 |
| gmann | will we update spec doc also for that ? | 16:35 |
| gibi | gmann: yes, that is needed too | 16:35 |
| gmann | just replacing PUT to PATCH | 16:35 |
| dansmith | we should, but we can do that later | 16:35 |
| gmann | yeah | 16:36 |
| gibi | yeah | 16:36 |
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| gmann | kind of doc update | 16:36 |
| dansmith | let's focus on getting the code done | 16:36 |
| gmann | +1 | 16:36 |
| gibi | agree | 16:36 |
| gibi | any other stuck review we need to talk about? | 16:36 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I am suggesting we stop documenting the existing PUT API that should only be used by Cinder, to help remove confusion. | 16:37 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: would that confuse Cinder devs? | 16:37 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: as I said, i think that it will be easier to document the put as primarily for updating the flag, but with a note:: that the volume_id can be updated under certain circumstances | 16:37 |
| dansmith | not sure we should really remove it entirely, but make the swap look like the weird stepchild instead of the primary reason for a PUT of that resource | 16:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: true and gibi: possibly | 16:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: that is a nice way of looking at it, I am sold. | 16:38 |
| gmann | dansmith: removing swap things from api-ref can make it internal though | 16:38 |
| dansmith | gmann: it's not internal | 16:38 |
| gmann | but we except users not to use this right ? | 16:39 |
| dansmith | if we had a separate document of "friend" APIs for services only, then we could put it there, but we don't | 16:39 |
| dansmith | gmann: I've actually heard of people using that API for reasons they shouldn't | 16:39 |
| dansmith | but still, I don't think we should un-document it just because we expect only cinder to call it | 16:39 |
| dansmith | think of how much of the neutron api would be undocumented if they did that for nova | 16:40 |
| sean-k-mooney | hopefully ironic a zun would close some of the gaps but that is a fair point | 16:40 |
| gmann | ohk. +1 on making primary reason as update resource not swap at least. | 16:40 |
| gmann | cinder is kind of users for nova | 16:41 |
| gibi | any other stuck review we need to talk about? | 16:41 |
| gibi | #topic Open discussion | 16:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:42 | |
| gibi | just a heads up | 16:42 |
| gibi | (gibi): Note that this weekend EU goes to summer time (e.g. I will go from UTC + 1 to UTC + 2) but the meeting remains at 16:00 UTC. | 16:42 |
| gibi | any other topic to discuss? | 16:43 |
| gibi | then lets close this. Thanks for coming. Take case and wash your hands! | 16:45 |
| gibi | Take care I mean | 16:45 |
| gibi | #endmeeting | 16:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:45 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 26 16:45:31 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-03-26-16.00.html | 16:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-03-26-16.00.txt | 16:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-03-26-16.00.log.html | 16:45 |
| bauzas | thanks gibi | 16:45 |
| gmann | thanks gibi for chair. | 16:45 |
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