Wednesday, 2020-07-08

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ttx#startmeeting large_scale_sig08:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jul  8 08:00:46 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:00
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ttx#topic Rollcall08:00
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ttxWho is here for the Large Scale SIG meeting ?08:00
mdelavergneHi!08:00
amorinHello08:01
ttxFrance is up and awake08:01
mdelavergneYep!08:01
amorin:p08:02
ttxI was hoping we'd have a few recruits from opendev week08:02
ttxLet's wait a few minutes and see if anyone else joins, otherwise it will be a short meeting08:03
amorindid you meet some new people during the summit?08:03
ttxmasahito is on IRC, just pinged him08:04
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masahitohi08:05
ttxo/08:05
ttxamorin: there were a couple of people who said in the chat they would join08:05
ttxI wonder how much our US-unfriendly time has been harming that will to join08:06
ttxI'll try to identify and contact those who expressed interest in the chat08:06
amorin ack08:06
ttxsee if we need to rotate meeting time or anything08:06
ttx#action ttx to identify from the chat interested candidates from Opendev event and invite them to next meeting08:07
ttxmasahito: did you have a good time with Opendev last week?08:07
masahitoyeah.08:07
ttxDid anyone else have any specific feedback about it?08:07
ttxthings to change before teh next one(s)?08:08
mdelavergneI couldn't attend personnally08:08
ttxok, moving on then08:09
ttx#topic Progress on "Documenting large scale operations" goal08:09
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ttx#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/large-scale-sig-documentation08:09
amorinmy action is still in todo, wasnt able to move that forward08:10
ttxok, will add it again for the sake of meeting notes08:10
ttx#action amorin to add some meat to the wiki page before we push the Nova doc patch further08:10
ttxamorin: you did, however, post your metrics/billing story on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/large-scale-sig-documentation08:11
ttxthanks for that!08:11
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ttxGood example of fine-tuning ceilometer down to reasonable amounts of data08:12
amorinah yes :p08:12
ttxCan you tell what you are using for metrics storage?08:12
amorinyes, we are using a mongodb08:12
amorinI can add some details on the etherpad08:12
ttxok, and are those metrics directly use for billing, or do you have separate data collection for that?08:13
amorinso, the metrics, after beeing sent to the rabbit cluster08:13
amorinare consumed by a ceileter service (I dont remember the name of this one)08:14
amorinbut we patched this service a little bit08:14
amorinto do some computation and push the results in a mongodb08:14
amorinthen the date stored in mongo are used by some OVH internal robots to do the billing08:14
amorinI dont know if it's answering your question?08:15
ttxit does! thanks08:15
ttxA reminder for others to push their story so that we can compare approaches!08:16
ttx#action all to describe briefly how you solved metrics/billing in your deployment in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/large-scale-sig-documentation08:16
ttxAnything else on the "Documenting large scale operations" topic ?08:16
ttx#topic Progress on "Scaling within one cluster" goal08:17
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ttx#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/large-scale-sig-cluster-scaling08:17
ttxmasahito: last week we discussed review teams for oslo.metrics.08:17
ttxlast meeting I mean08:17
ttxI think it would make sense to add one of the original authors to the oslo.metrics core review team08:17
ttxshould we add you? Or someone else from LINE?08:17
masahitoMe is fine.08:18
ttxOK, adding you now08:18
masahitoIf needed, I'll add other folks.08:18
ttxah! Actually you're already in08:18
ttxhttps://review.opendev.org/#/admin/groups/2096,members08:19
ttxI must have had that discussion with myself already08:19
ttxSo for the moment that's us two + the other oslo-core08:19
ttxNext step is to add basic tests, so that we are reasonably confident we do not introduce regressions08:20
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ttxLet us know if someone is interested in looking into that. I have it on my TODO list but it can take me a while before i get there08:20
ttxAnything else to report on the "Scaling within one cluster" topic?08:21
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ttx#topic Large Scale SIG slide for OpenStack 10th birthday campaign08:21
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ttxWe were offered a slide in the 10th birthday slide deck to promote the Large Scale SIG08:22
ttxI proposed the following content:08:22
ttx#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/JcyxFIi-F9I_cIi2QOyX08:22
ttxand it was accepted for the 10th anniversary deck08:22
ttxLet me know if you have comments, I can still get them to update it08:22
amorinsounds good to me08:23
ttx#topic Next meeting08:23
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ttxLet's plan to have it in two weeks... If as I contact potential newcomers the time is not working out for them, I'll start an email thread to discuss a better time08:24
ttxDoes that work for everyone?08:24
amorinyes08:24
ttxWe've been struggling to reach critical mass lately, so let's not lose the existing members :)08:24
ttx(+ I think Belmiro is in holidays right now)08:25
ttx#info next meeting: Jul 22, 8:00UTC08:25
amorinI will be off in 2 weeks btw08:25
ttxamorin: ok... I was considering skipping it to be honest... but I was also hoping the new people would be here today. In two weeks I can still get some of teh event momentum to get them to join08:26
ttxin 4 weeks they will probably have forgotten about it08:26
ttxSo let's still plan in two weeks, even if we make it a very short meeting08:27
amorinyes, ok08:27
masahitoI'm okay.08:27
ttxamorin: have a good time off!08:27
ttxThanks everyone08:27
amorinthanks :p08:27
amorinbefore closing up08:27
amorinI'd like to share some stuff we are working on at OVH08:28
ttxplease do!08:28
amorinor maybe I should do it on mailing list?08:28
ttxprobably larger reach on the ML08:28
ttxbut now the suspense is killing me08:28
amorinthat will be quick :p08:28
amorinI am pretty sure other large scale groups already hit some DB size issue08:29
amorinso we built a tool, that we call osarchiver08:29
amorinhttps://github.com/ovh/osarchiver/08:29
ttxI remember it being around for a while already08:29
amorinbasically it's removing (or moving to other DB) some data from a running mysql cluster08:29
amorinyes08:29
amorinI dont know if it make sense, but maybe we can move it under opendev gerrit?08:30
ttxI think it makes sense, if only to make it more discoverable08:30
amorinok,08:30
ttxThere were talks about restarting osops during the opendev event last week08:30
ttxI'll give it some thought on where we could land it for maximum impact08:31
amoringreat :p08:31
ttxamorin: could you post a ML thread about the tool and ask if it would make sense to land it somewhere in openstack space08:31
mdelavergne31this seems nice08:31
ttxI'll take it from there08:31
amorinyes, will do08:31
amorinthe second topic I'd like to talk about is a small patch we did on oslo.messaging:08:32
amorinhttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/735385/08:32
amorinto add a ping endpoint on RPC08:32
ttx#action amorin to start a thread on osarchiver proposing to land it somewhere in openstack08:32
amorinbehind this patch, we want to monitor our neutron agent (and nova compute) a little bit closer08:33
ttxOK, I'll make sure Sean sees it. I know he was off lately08:34
amorinI dont know if people from LINE or other companies are using something similar08:34
amorinanyway, I just wanted to let the group know about that :p08:35
amorinand that's all for me :p08:35
ttxi think Sean is trying to avoid having two features to do ping/healthcheck08:35
masahitobtw, we directly monitor rabbit cluster for the healthcheck08:36
amorinmasahito: what do you mean by that08:36
amorin?08:36
ttxSo it could be a good idea to discuss that in a ML thread too, and get operators to +1 your approach08:36
amorinok, so I will do a mail about that also08:36
amorinmasahito: I am really interested in your approach on monitoring this :p08:37
masahitoamorin: oops, sorry I misundersood the patch. It's about endpoint for dispatcher.08:37
ttxyou can add [largescale-sig] to the subject to encourage large deployers to chime in08:37
amorinyes ok08:38
ttxI'll add those two work items (osarchiver and the ping) to the etherpads so that we remember to track them08:38
amorinmasahito: ok, please, check the patch, let me know, maybe I am completely wrong in my approach08:38
amorinthanks08:38
ttx#action amorin to start a [largescale-sig] thread about his middleware ping approach, SIG members can comment if that makes sense for them08:39
ttx#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/735385/08:40
ttxOk I think I captured everything08:40
ttxAnything else before we close?08:40
ttxI'll take that as a no08:41
ttxHave a great week!08:41
amorinthat's good for me08:41
amorinthanks, great week also08:41
ttx#endmeeting08:41
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mdelavergne31thanks you too!08:41
masahitothanks08:41
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slaweq#startmeeting neutron_ci15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jul  8 15:00:34 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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slaweqhi15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci'15:00
ralonsohhi15:00
njohnstono/15:01
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bcafarelo/ sorry somehow my irc client now had #openstack-meeting3 (without "-")15:01
maciejjozefczyk\o15:02
slaweqGrafana dashboard: http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate15:02
slaweqplease open link and we can start :)15:02
slaweq#topic Actions from previous meetings15:03
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slaweq    ralonsoh will check get_datapath_id issues in https://storage.bhs.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_63a/711425/11/check/neutron-functional/63ac4ca/testr_results.html15:03
ralonsohI didn't find the root cause of the timeout15:03
ralonsohbut I've pushed a patch for ovsdbapp15:03
ralonsohto add a bit more information when the txn fails15:03
ralonsohif that depends on the RXN or the TXN queue15:04
ralonsohsorry for that... it's not easy to track those errors15:04
slaweqok, so it's WIP15:05
slaweqthx ralonsoh15:05
ralonsohyes15:05
slaweqplease keep us updated if You will find anything15:05
ralonsohsure15:05
slaweqbtw. do we have LP for that?15:05
ralonsohno15:05
ralonsohjust a patch in gerrit15:05
ralonsohIf I find another error like this one, I'll open a LP bug15:06
slaweqok, thx15:06
slaweqok, next one15:06
slaweq    slaweq will check errors with non existing interface in https://storage.bhs.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_63a/711425/11/check/neutron-functional/63ac4ca/testr_results.html15:06
slaweqI did not have time for that one15:06
slaweqand logs from the link above are already gone15:06
slaweqas I didn't saw it later, I will not bother with it anymore for now15:07
slaweqif it will happen again, I will try to check it15:07
slaweqnext one15:07
slaweqslaweq to move non-voting jobs to experimental queue in EM branches15:07
slaweq    Rocky: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/739668/15:07
slaweq    Queens: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/739669/15:07
slaweq    Pike: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/739910/ (thx bcafarell)15:07
slaweqand one more question - what about Ocata?15:07
slaweqdo we still support this branch?15:08
slaweqI think so but I couldn't find any open patch for it15:08
ralonsohthat was set as EOL15:08
ralonsohif I'm not wrong15:08
bcafarelI am looking for link I think it is EOL now15:08
njohnstonEOL IIRC15:09
bcafarelah "Moving the stable/ocata to 'Unmaintained' phase and then EOL"15:09
slaweqI don't see ocata-eol tag in the repo15:09
bcafarelmaybe the paperwork is not fully completed for https://releases.openstack.org/ (and tags)15:09
bcafarelbut at least on neutron side we did not see recent backport requests15:10
njohnstonas I recall there was something about how individual projects can EOL it at their individual discretion15:10
slaweqok, I will check its state after I will come back from the PTO15:10
slaweqok, next one15:11
slaweqslaweq to investigate failures in test_create_router_set_gateway_with_fixed_ip test15:11
slaweqI didn't have time for that one too15:11
slaweqit's not very urgent as it happens in non-voting job15:11
slaweqbut if someone wants to check, feel free to take it ;)15:12
ralonsohI'll ping you tomorrow about this one15:12
slaweqralonsoh: sure, thx15:12
slaweqok, next one15:12
slaweqmaciejjozefczyk to check neutron_tempest_plugin.scenario.test_connectivity.NetworkConnectivityTest.test_connectivity_through_2_routers failure in ovn jobs15:12
maciejjozefczykI havent time to check that one ;/ I'm going to take a look tomorrow15:13
slaweqok15:14
slaweqI will assign it to You for next week15:14
slaweq#action maciejjozefczyk to check neutron_tempest_plugin.scenario.test_connectivity.NetworkConnectivityTest.test_connectivity_through_2_routers failure in ovn jobs15:14
ralonsoh(busy week for everyone)15:14
slaweqyeah15:15
slaweqas usual15:15
slaweqlets move to the next topic15:15
slaweq#topic Stadium projects15:15
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slaweqzuul v3 migration15:15
slaweqI finally pushed patch for last missing neutron job: https://review.opendev.org/729591 - lets see how it will work15:15
ralonsohcool!15:16
slaweqit still didn't even started15:16
slaweqbut I will keep an eye on it15:16
bcafarelit will before your PTO :)15:16
ralonsohhehehe15:16
slaweqbcafarel: I hope so15:16
slaweq:)15:16
slaweqok, anything else regardig stadium for today?15:17
slaweqok, I guess it means "no"15:19
slaweqso lets move on15:19
slaweq#topic Switch to Ubuntu Focal15:19
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slaweqany updates on that?15:20
ralonsohdevstack patch was merged15:20
ralonsohhttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/704831/15:20
ralonsohbut https://review.opendev.org/#/c/734304 is failing15:20
ralonsohI need to review the logs for FT/fullstack15:20
maciejjozefczykwe need this one first to land https://review.opendev.org/#/c/737984/15:21
bcafarelmaciejjozefczyk: will it fix errors like those seen in  https://review.opendev.org/#/c/738163/ ?15:22
bcafarelException: Invalid directories: /usr/local/share/ovn, /usr/share/ovn, /usr/local/share/openvswitch, /usr/share/openvswitch, None15:22
bcafarel(some other jobs failing too, but I did not have time to dig further)15:22
ralonsohmaciejjozefczyk, but apart from your patch, FTs/fullstack are failing because in Focal python-openvswitch does not exist15:23
ralonsohE: Unable to locate package python-openvswitch15:23
slaweq:/15:23
slaweqshould we ask someone from Ubuntu team for help with that?15:23
ralonsohwe should, yes15:24
maciejjozefczykahh15:24
maciejjozefczykpython3-?15:24
ralonsohmaciejjozefczyk, I'll check that today15:24
bcafarelralonsoh: I have a quick hack to pull python3- for test in 738163 (hardcoded just for testing)15:24
slaweqok, so package name was renamed to python3-openvswitch in Focal? Is that correct?15:26
ralonsohI need to check that15:26
bcafarelyup15:26
slaweqok, thx ralonsoh and bcafarel for working on this15:26
slaweqI think we can move on to the next topic15:27
slaweq#topic Stable branches15:27
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slaweqUssuri dashboard: http://grafana.openstack.org/d/pM54U-Kiz/neutron-failure-rate-previous-stable-release?orgId=115:27
slaweqTrain dashboard: http://grafana.openstack.org/d/dCFVU-Kik/neutron-failure-rate-older-stable-release?orgId=115:27
bcafarelstable branches maybe, stable ci not these days15:27
slaweqLOL15:28
maciejjozefczyk;/15:28
slaweqbcafarel: so we can say (not so)stable branches15:28
slaweqok?15:28
slaweq:D15:28
bcafarel:) approved!15:28
bcafarelfor the previous issues we are almost good now finally (pike https://review.opendev.org/#/c/739456/ waiting on second +2)15:28
bcafarelbut new pep8 error (isort) needs a requirements backport which failed CI https://review.opendev.org/#/c/73991215:29
slaweqbcafarel: +W15:29
slaweqand we need same backport all the way to stein, right?15:30
bcafarelapparently yes15:30
slaweq:/15:30
slaweqat least we are good with pep8 issue in master now :)15:31
ralonsohwhat are those errors in py36 tests?15:31
ralonsohhttps://storage.gra.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_513/739912/1/check/openstack-tox-py36/51376c8/testr_results.html15:31
bcafarelyes I am not sure where they come from (but appear in both py36/py37 and all other backports)15:32
ralonsohplease, keep an eye on https://github.com/PyCQA/pylint/issues/372215:33
slaweqmaybe yet another ci blocker issue (because we still have not enough) ;)15:34
slaweqok, lets move on15:35
slaweq#topic Grafana15:35
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slaweq#link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate15:35
slaweqI see one thing which worry me a bit15:36
slaweqneutron-ovn-tempest-full-multinode-ovs-master is failing 100% of times since some time15:36
slaweqI opened LP for that https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/188680715:37
openstackLaunchpad bug 1886807 in neutron "neutron-ovn-tempest-full-multinode-ovs-master job is failing 100% times" [High,Confirmed]15:37
slaweqidk if that is job configuration or something like that but seems that in many tests it's failing due to ssh issues15:37
slaweqother than that, I think that things are more or less ok in master branch now15:38
maciejjozefczykyes thats strange because I don't remember anything that could break this... We also didn't changed the ovn branch15:38
maciejjozefczykyes15:38
maciejjozefczykI'm gonna take a look tomorrow what was pushed to ovn master recently15:39
slaweqmaciejjozefczyk: at first glance I suspect some issue with infra, it's multinode job and maybe ssh to vms which lands on the second node don't work15:39
slaweqthat's something what I would try to check first15:39
maciejjozefczykyep15:39
slaweqbtw https://review.opendev.org/737984 just merged :)15:40
slaweq#action maciejjozefczyk to check failing neutron-ovn-tempest-full-multinode-ovs-master job15:40
slaweqthx maciejjozefczyk for looking into that15:40
maciejjozefczykack15:40
maciejjozefczyk;)15:40
slaweqok, lets move on15:41
slaweq#topic fullstack/functional15:41
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slaweqI found one new (for me at least) issue15:41
slaweqneutron.tests.functional.test_server.TestWsgiServer.test_restart_wsgi_on_sighup_multiple_workers15:41
slaweqhttps://f7a63aeb9edd557a2176-4740624f0848c8c3257f704064a4516f.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/736026/4/gate/neutron-functional/d7d5c47/testr_results.html15:41
slaweqdid You saw something like that recently?15:41
bcafarelnot that I remember (and that code was not touched recently)15:43
ralonsohthe worker didn't restart, isn't it?15:43
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slaweqbcafarel: yes, but I saw it I think twice this week15:43
slaweqhmm15:44
slaweqI see such error in the test logs: https://f7a63aeb9edd557a2176-4740624f0848c8c3257f704064a4516f.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/736026/4/gate/neutron-functional/d7d5c47/controller/logs/dsvm-functional-logs/neutron.tests.functional.test_server.TestWsgiServer.test_restart_wsgi_on_sighup_multiple_workers.txt15:44
slaweqdo You think it may be related?15:44
slaweqactually I think I saw something similar in the past15:46
slaweqwhen You look at the test's code: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/tests/functional/test_server.py#L16315:46
slaweqit failed on condition which checkes if some specific file was created and had got expected size15:47
slaweqso it could be that size was wrong or there was no this file at all15:47
slaweqI will change that condition to add some logging to it15:47
slaweqso will be easier to check what happend there15:47
njohnston+115:49
slaweq#action slaweq to change condition in the TestNeutronServer to have better logging15:49
slaweqok, we can get back to this issue when we will know more what happen there15:50
bcafarel+115:50
slaweqlets move on15:50
slaweq#topic Tempest/Scenario15:50
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slaweqI had only this issue related to ovn job but we talked about it already15:50
slaweqso just 2 short info15:50
slaweqand ask for reviews :)15:51
slaweqPlease review https://review.opendev.org/#/c/736186/15:51
slaweqI had to rebase it to resolve some conflict there15:51
slaweqand also I increased timeouts in singlenode tempest jobs:  https://review.opendev.org/73995515:52
slaweqplease take a look at this one too15:52
slaweqand that's all from me about scenario jobs15:52
slaweq#topic On demand agenda15:52
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slaweqdo You have anything else You want to talk about today?15:53
ralonsohno thanks15:53
slaweqI have one quick item15:53
slaweqas You know next 2 weeks I will be on PTO15:53
maciejjozefczykslaweq, enjoy :)15:54
slaweqdo You want me to cancel this ci meeting or ralonsoh can You chair it?15:54
ralonsohI can (probably)15:54
slaweqI'm asking You because You are listed as co-chair of this meeting already :)15:54
slaweqralonsoh: thx a lot15:54
slaweqso I will not cancel it, please run it if You will have time or cancel if You want15:55
slaweqthat's all from my side15:55
slaweqthx for attending today15:55
slaweqand have a great rest of the week15:55
ralonsohbye15:55
slaweq#endmeeting15:55
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