Thursday, 2020-07-23

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gibi#startmeeting nova16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jul 23 16:00:16 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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gibio/16:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'16:00
elodo/16:00
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gibiwhat a crowd16:02
gibianyhow16:02
bauzas\o16:02
gibi#topic Bugs (stuck/critical)16:02
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gibiNo Critical bugs16:02
gmanno/16:02
gibi#link 32 new untriaged bugs (-2 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New16:02
gibiplease look at the untriaged bug list and try to push some bugs forward16:02
gibiis there any bug we need to discuss?16:02
gibi#topic Runways16:05
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gibietherpad #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-runways-victoria16:05
gibithe bp/use-pcpu-and-vcpu-in-one-instance has been completed. \o/16:05
gibithe bp/add-emulated-virtual-tpm moved to a slot and the bottom part of that has already +2 from me16:05
gibithe slot for bp/provider-config-file expiring today. tony_su got feedback on the patch series and I'm +2 on the bottom patch. tony_su working on the rest of the series based on the feedback.16:05
gibithe cyborg patches #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/(topic:bp/nova-cyborg-interaction+OR+topic:bp/cyborg-rebuild-and-evacuate)+status:open also got feedback and the bottom has a +2. the rest of the series need some work from brinzhang_16:05
bauzasfwiw, I'm reviewing the vTPM series with an upgrade concerned eye16:05
gibibauzas: thanks!16:06
stephenfinand I've a -1 on the bottom patch in the provider-config-file series16:06
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stephenfinand most of the other patches16:06
gibistephenfin: ahh correct. I saw it but forget it16:06
gibistephenfin: thanks for checking it16:06
bauzaslooks like we haven't discussed in the spec about upgrade implications, so this necessarly has to be addressed at review time16:06
gibibauzas: do you see upgrade issues?16:07
bauzasnot really, just considering the upgrade case16:07
bauzasand what would happen in one year16:07
gibiOK16:08
stephenfinCan keep the discussion ongoing in openstack-nova, but I think we've covered ourselves sufficiently (by way of traits and API checks)16:08
gibicool, please continue it on #openstack-nova16:09
gibiif needed16:09
gibianything else to be discussed regarding the features in the runway slots?16:09
stephenfinnot from me16:10
gibi#topic Release Planning16:10
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gibinext weeks is Victoria M2 which will be the spec freeze16:11
gibios-vif does not need a release as we did not merge any commit since the previous release16:11
gibiwe released python-novaclient for M2 #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/742378/16:11
gibiI will not be here next week for the M2 but bauzas and dansmith has the power do anything needed. I don't foresee anything to be done next week16:12
gibiI will make the spec freeze announcment on the Monday after the M2 when I'm back16:12
gibianything else related to the coming M2 ?16:13
gibi#topic Stable Branches16:14
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bauzasroger .16:14
elodif lyarwood is not here, then some info from me:16:15
gibielod: do you have any new from stable side as lyarwood cannot make it today16:15
elodstable gate was in a good shape, so quite many backported bugfixes landed16:15
elodalso, a stein release is planned:16:16
elodhttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/741760/16:16
elodmaybe this should be updated as some patch got merged already16:16
elodI think that's it16:16
gibielod: thanks!16:17
gibi#topic Sub/related team Highlights16:17
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gibiAPI (gmann)16:17
gmannprogress on deprecated APIs policy work16:17
gmann#link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/policy-defaults-refresh-deprecated-apis+(status:open+OR+status:merged)16:17
gmannthese are ready to review, 2-3 APIs left which i will be completing in this week.16:18
gmanni added this in runway queue also16:18
gibiack, I saw that it is now in the runway queue16:18
gmannthat's all from me today on API16:18
gibithanks16:19
gibiLibvirt (bauzas)16:19
bauzasnothing to report, two bugs open (I need to do my duty), reviews there16:19
gibiOK, thanks16:19
bauzas#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-libvirt-subteam16:19
gibi#topic Stuck Reviews16:20
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gibinothing on the agenda16:20
gibiis there any review we need to unstuck today?16:20
gibi#topic Open discussion16:21
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gibi(stephenfin) Is there any reason we shouldn't split the code paths for resize and (cold) migrate? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/741624/16:22
stephenfinSo I was hoping there'd be more people here for this16:22
gibiI think the reason is historical16:22
gibibut I'm not sure about the impact of untangling that16:23
gibiis there any upgrade impact?16:23
stephenfinmy initial investigation suggests not, assuming we keep things tangled in the RPC API16:24
gibido we also want create a confirm migrate action?16:24
stephenfinThat's an open too. I'm not sure16:24
gibialso we have the VERIFY_RESIZE state for cold migration today too16:24
stephenfinI've added a 'server migration confirm' command to OSC, but that's just using the resizeConfirm action16:24
stephenfini.e. it's a mirror of 'server resize confirm'16:25
gmannis it just internal code path split or + its usage via API way too ?16:25
gibiif we now only do a code refactoring without impacting interface then I think it is OK16:25
gibigmann: ++16:25
stephenfinJust internal for now16:26
stephenfinSo we can reduce the horrific amount of conditional in the affected code paths present right now16:26
gibifor the interface impacts we would need a spec anyhow16:26
gibistephenfin: then I'm totally OK to do it16:26
stephenfinSweet. I'll keep working at that patch and others like it so16:26
stephenfinSpecless BP if there aren't API changed?16:27
stephenfin*changes16:27
gibispecless bp for tracking, yes please16:27
stephenfincool16:27
gmannyeah, for interface it might not be much benefits but doing internal code split will be helpful from complexity and avoid-regression point of view.16:27
bauzasI'd opiniate for a spec16:27
bauzasbecause there are RPC implications16:27
stephenfinbauzas: No, no RPC changes yet16:27
bauzasstephenfin: only in the conductor then ?16:27
stephenfinI explicitly want to avoid those _for now_16:27
stephenfinConductor and virt driver16:28
bauzasI'd then recommend extreme caution16:28
stephenfinvirt driver changes just need an email to the list for out-of-tree maintainers (it's not a contract, as dansmith likes to point out)16:28
bauzasit would be like changing your electric meter while it's still running16:28
bauzasdoable but at high risks16:29
bauzasand then, if no RPC changes, specless I agree16:29
stephenfinLet me investigate things. If it turns out to be riskier than I think so right now, I'll bring this up again and possibly file a spec16:29
bauzas*in theory* it's all conditionals16:29
bauzasbut that's so fuckingly tangled16:30
bauzasI do remember mriedem yelling16:30
stephenfinRight, that's my point16:30
* gibi approves the bauzas' wording16:30
gmann+116:30
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stephenfinUnnecessarily so, I'm hoping16:30
stephenfinTBD16:30
gibiOK I think this is agreed for now16:30
gibianything else for today/16:31
gibi?16:31
bauzasI'd at least raise this to operators16:31
bauzaslike a tl;dr: you could feel the breeze16:31
bauzasit's surgery16:31
stephenfinFair point. Let me see what needs to be done16:31
bauzascool16:31
stephenfingibi: not from me16:31
bauzasthis IMHO would require a decent amount of new methods16:32
bauzasand decoupling16:32
bauzasbut let's figure this out, we have a volunteer for dirty work \o/16:32
gibi\o/16:33
gibiif nothing else then thank you for joining16:34
gibi#endmeeting16:35
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Jul 23 16:35:01 2020 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:35
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gmannthanks16:35
elodthanks16:35
bauzasthanks16:36
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