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| gibi | #startmeeting nova | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 23 16:00:16 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:00 | |
| gibi | o/ | 16:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 16:00 |
| elod | o/ | 16:00 |
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| gibi | what a crowd | 16:02 |
| gibi | anyhow | 16:02 |
| bauzas | \o | 16:02 |
| gibi | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:02 | |
| gibi | No Critical bugs | 16:02 |
| gmann | o/ | 16:02 |
| gibi | #link 32 new untriaged bugs (-2 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 16:02 |
| gibi | please look at the untriaged bug list and try to push some bugs forward | 16:02 |
| gibi | is there any bug we need to discuss? | 16:02 |
| gibi | #topic Runways | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Runways (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:05 | |
| gibi | etherpad #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-runways-victoria | 16:05 |
| gibi | the bp/use-pcpu-and-vcpu-in-one-instance has been completed. \o/ | 16:05 |
| gibi | the bp/add-emulated-virtual-tpm moved to a slot and the bottom part of that has already +2 from me | 16:05 |
| gibi | the slot for bp/provider-config-file expiring today. tony_su got feedback on the patch series and I'm +2 on the bottom patch. tony_su working on the rest of the series based on the feedback. | 16:05 |
| gibi | the cyborg patches #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/(topic:bp/nova-cyborg-interaction+OR+topic:bp/cyborg-rebuild-and-evacuate)+status:open also got feedback and the bottom has a +2. the rest of the series need some work from brinzhang_ | 16:05 |
| bauzas | fwiw, I'm reviewing the vTPM series with an upgrade concerned eye | 16:05 |
| gibi | bauzas: thanks! | 16:06 |
| stephenfin | and I've a -1 on the bottom patch in the provider-config-file series | 16:06 |
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| stephenfin | and most of the other patches | 16:06 |
| gibi | stephenfin: ahh correct. I saw it but forget it | 16:06 |
| gibi | stephenfin: thanks for checking it | 16:06 |
| bauzas | looks like we haven't discussed in the spec about upgrade implications, so this necessarly has to be addressed at review time | 16:06 |
| gibi | bauzas: do you see upgrade issues? | 16:07 |
| bauzas | not really, just considering the upgrade case | 16:07 |
| bauzas | and what would happen in one year | 16:07 |
| gibi | OK | 16:08 |
| stephenfin | Can keep the discussion ongoing in openstack-nova, but I think we've covered ourselves sufficiently (by way of traits and API checks) | 16:08 |
| gibi | cool, please continue it on #openstack-nova | 16:09 |
| gibi | if needed | 16:09 |
| gibi | anything else to be discussed regarding the features in the runway slots? | 16:09 |
| stephenfin | not from me | 16:10 |
| gibi | #topic Release Planning | 16:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release Planning (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:10 | |
| gibi | next weeks is Victoria M2 which will be the spec freeze | 16:11 |
| gibi | os-vif does not need a release as we did not merge any commit since the previous release | 16:11 |
| gibi | we released python-novaclient for M2 #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/742378/ | 16:11 |
| gibi | I will not be here next week for the M2 but bauzas and dansmith has the power do anything needed. I don't foresee anything to be done next week | 16:12 |
| gibi | I will make the spec freeze announcment on the Monday after the M2 when I'm back | 16:12 |
| gibi | anything else related to the coming M2 ? | 16:13 |
| gibi | #topic Stable Branches | 16:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable Branches (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:14 | |
| bauzas | roger . | 16:14 |
| elod | if lyarwood is not here, then some info from me: | 16:15 |
| gibi | elod: do you have any new from stable side as lyarwood cannot make it today | 16:15 |
| elod | stable gate was in a good shape, so quite many backported bugfixes landed | 16:15 |
| elod | also, a stein release is planned: | 16:16 |
| elod | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/741760/ | 16:16 |
| elod | maybe this should be updated as some patch got merged already | 16:16 |
| elod | I think that's it | 16:16 |
| gibi | elod: thanks! | 16:17 |
| gibi | #topic Sub/related team Highlights | 16:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sub/related team Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:17 | |
| gibi | API (gmann) | 16:17 |
| gmann | progress on deprecated APIs policy work | 16:17 |
| gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/policy-defaults-refresh-deprecated-apis+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 16:17 |
| gmann | these are ready to review, 2-3 APIs left which i will be completing in this week. | 16:18 |
| gmann | i added this in runway queue also | 16:18 |
| gibi | ack, I saw that it is now in the runway queue | 16:18 |
| gmann | that's all from me today on API | 16:18 |
| gibi | thanks | 16:19 |
| gibi | Libvirt (bauzas) | 16:19 |
| bauzas | nothing to report, two bugs open (I need to do my duty), reviews there | 16:19 |
| gibi | OK, thanks | 16:19 |
| bauzas | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-libvirt-subteam | 16:19 |
| gibi | #topic Stuck Reviews | 16:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:20 | |
| gibi | nothing on the agenda | 16:20 |
| gibi | is there any review we need to unstuck today? | 16:20 |
| gibi | #topic Open discussion | 16:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:21 | |
| gibi | (stephenfin) Is there any reason we shouldn't split the code paths for resize and (cold) migrate? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/741624/ | 16:22 |
| stephenfin | So I was hoping there'd be more people here for this | 16:22 |
| gibi | I think the reason is historical | 16:22 |
| gibi | but I'm not sure about the impact of untangling that | 16:23 |
| gibi | is there any upgrade impact? | 16:23 |
| stephenfin | my initial investigation suggests not, assuming we keep things tangled in the RPC API | 16:24 |
| gibi | do we also want create a confirm migrate action? | 16:24 |
| stephenfin | That's an open too. I'm not sure | 16:24 |
| gibi | also we have the VERIFY_RESIZE state for cold migration today too | 16:24 |
| stephenfin | I've added a 'server migration confirm' command to OSC, but that's just using the resizeConfirm action | 16:24 |
| stephenfin | i.e. it's a mirror of 'server resize confirm' | 16:25 |
| gmann | is it just internal code path split or + its usage via API way too ? | 16:25 |
| gibi | if we now only do a code refactoring without impacting interface then I think it is OK | 16:25 |
| gibi | gmann: ++ | 16:25 |
| stephenfin | Just internal for now | 16:26 |
| stephenfin | So we can reduce the horrific amount of conditional in the affected code paths present right now | 16:26 |
| gibi | for the interface impacts we would need a spec anyhow | 16:26 |
| gibi | stephenfin: then I'm totally OK to do it | 16:26 |
| stephenfin | Sweet. I'll keep working at that patch and others like it so | 16:26 |
| stephenfin | Specless BP if there aren't API changed? | 16:27 |
| stephenfin | *changes | 16:27 |
| gibi | specless bp for tracking, yes please | 16:27 |
| stephenfin | cool | 16:27 |
| gmann | yeah, for interface it might not be much benefits but doing internal code split will be helpful from complexity and avoid-regression point of view. | 16:27 |
| bauzas | I'd opiniate for a spec | 16:27 |
| bauzas | because there are RPC implications | 16:27 |
| stephenfin | bauzas: No, no RPC changes yet | 16:27 |
| bauzas | stephenfin: only in the conductor then ? | 16:27 |
| stephenfin | I explicitly want to avoid those _for now_ | 16:27 |
| stephenfin | Conductor and virt driver | 16:28 |
| bauzas | I'd then recommend extreme caution | 16:28 |
| stephenfin | virt driver changes just need an email to the list for out-of-tree maintainers (it's not a contract, as dansmith likes to point out) | 16:28 |
| bauzas | it would be like changing your electric meter while it's still running | 16:28 |
| bauzas | doable but at high risks | 16:29 |
| bauzas | and then, if no RPC changes, specless I agree | 16:29 |
| stephenfin | Let me investigate things. If it turns out to be riskier than I think so right now, I'll bring this up again and possibly file a spec | 16:29 |
| bauzas | *in theory* it's all conditionals | 16:29 |
| bauzas | but that's so fuckingly tangled | 16:30 |
| bauzas | I do remember mriedem yelling | 16:30 |
| stephenfin | Right, that's my point | 16:30 |
| * gibi approves the bauzas' wording | 16:30 | |
| gmann | +1 | 16:30 |
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| stephenfin | Unnecessarily so, I'm hoping | 16:30 |
| stephenfin | TBD | 16:30 |
| gibi | OK I think this is agreed for now | 16:30 |
| gibi | anything else for today/ | 16:31 |
| gibi | ? | 16:31 |
| bauzas | I'd at least raise this to operators | 16:31 |
| bauzas | like a tl;dr: you could feel the breeze | 16:31 |
| bauzas | it's surgery | 16:31 |
| stephenfin | Fair point. Let me see what needs to be done | 16:31 |
| bauzas | cool | 16:31 |
| stephenfin | gibi: not from me | 16:31 |
| bauzas | this IMHO would require a decent amount of new methods | 16:32 |
| bauzas | and decoupling | 16:32 |
| bauzas | but let's figure this out, we have a volunteer for dirty work \o/ | 16:32 |
| gibi | \o/ | 16:33 |
| gibi | if nothing else then thank you for joining | 16:34 |
| gibi | #endmeeting | 16:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:35 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 23 16:35:01 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-07-23-16.00.html | 16:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-07-23-16.00.txt | 16:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-07-23-16.00.log.html | 16:35 |
| gmann | thanks | 16:35 |
| elod | thanks | 16:35 |
| bauzas | thanks | 16:36 |
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