Tuesday, 2020-08-11

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slaweq#startmeeting networking14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug 11 14:00:08 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)"14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking'14:00
slaweqlets start14:01
slaweq#topic Announcements14:01
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slaweqRelease calendar https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html reminders:14:02
slaweqOur next milestone is Victoria-3 in the week of 7th September14:02
slaweqbut there is also proposal for release calendar for Wallaby cycle: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-August/016391.html14:02
slaweqVirtual PTG will be in the week of 26th of October: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-August/016424.html14:03
slaweqand that's short announcements from my today14:03
slaweqanything else You want to share with the team maybe?14:03
slaweqif not, lets move on to the next topic14:05
slaweq#topic Blueprints14:05
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slaweqBlueprints for Victoria-3: https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/victoria-314:05
slaweqdo You have any updates about any of them?14:05
lajoskatonaI discussed lst wee kwith ralonsoh, and we agreed to try with placement allocation update before db transaction, and today basically it worked14:06
lajoskatonaso that can be an option, the other one is to do it after db transaction, and in that case port update will be async, as placement update is time consuming14:07
lajoskatonaI tried to summarize these on bug page, when ralonsoh will be back we can discuss I suppose how to proceed14:07
slaweqin the second solution You will need to rollback db changes if something will go wrong in placement?14:08
lajoskatonano then the update will fail before db change14:09
slaweqlajoskatona: ??14:10
lajoskatonayou mean when placement update happens after db transaction? than we need rollback, sorry14:10
slaweqso then we may have "weird" situation when user is doing port update to change QoS policy and it gets result which confirms him that policy is changed14:10
slaweqbut then placement fails to allocate new resources and qos policy is rollback to the old one14:11
slaweqis that correct?14:11
lajoskatonaor another extra should be to add some status for the update and user can poll that14:12
lajoskatonaand that can show if everythin (placement i.e.) succeeded14:12
slaweqI'm not sure if that's good idea but we can discuss that with ralonsoh next week14:12
lajoskatonaslaweq: ok14:13
lajoskatonanext week I will be on PTO, but after that we can discuss if everybody have time14:13
slaweqlajoskatona: ok14:13
slaweqlajoskatona: thx for the update on this14:13
lajoskatonaslaweq: thanks for the time for it :-)14:14
slaweqany other updates about BPs?14:14
slaweqok, so I have short update about some of them14:16
slaweqfirst https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/default-dns-zone-per-tenant14:16
slaweqneutron and neutron-tempest-plugins:  https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686343/ and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/733994/ are ready for review14:16
slaweqand when it will be done, this RFE will be completed14:17
slaweqplease add it to Your review pile :)14:17
slaweqand also similar with George framework: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/186311314:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1863113 in neutron "[RFE] Introduce new testing framework for Neutron - OVN integration - a.k.a George" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to Jakub Libosvar (libosvar)14:17
slaweqpatches https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:george+(status:open+OR+status:merged) - all ready for review now14:17
slaweqthat's at least what jlibosva told me today :)14:17
mlavallesome have -1 from gerrit14:18
slaweqfor other BPs I'm trying to keep links to the opened patches in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings#Blueprints so please take a look and review them if You will have some time14:18
slaweqmlavalle: but I think that errors are unrelated14:19
slaweqI know that there is now (again) some issue with grenade jobs but I haven't got time to check it yet14:19
slaweqahh, and one more thing14:20
toskyare those grenade jobs not zuulv3 yet?14:20
slaweqplease also check ovn-devstack patches from lucasgomes: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:ovn-devstack+(status:open+OR+status:merged)14:21
slaweqwe should move on with that14:21
slaweqtosky: neutron grenade jobs are zuulv3 already, why?14:21
toskyslaweq: yes, they are14:21
slaweqok, speaking about zuulv3 migration14:22
slaweq#topic Community Goals14:23
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slaweqany updates on community goals from You?14:23
slaweqI didn't had time to work on zuulv3 nor Ubuntu 20.04 this week14:23
toskyI ported a job: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745522/14:23
toskynot sure it should live in that repository, but the point of the migration is just to convert it14:23
toskyapart from that, there are some WIP reviews that may need some love and help14:24
toskyreminder about the status, see from line 175 https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/goal-victoria-native-zuulv3-migration14:24
slaweqthx tosky14:25
slaweqI will try to review them ASAP14:25
slaweqok, so I think we can move on with the next topics now, right?14:27
toskyI don't have anything else on this topic for now14:27
slaweq#topic Bugs14:28
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slaweqmlavalle was our bug deputy last week14:28
slaweqmlavalle: any bugs You want to highlight now?14:28
mlavallehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1890445 needs owner14:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1890445 in neutron "[ovn] Tempest test test_update_router_admin_state failing very often" [Critical,Confirmed]14:29
mlavallethat's it14:29
slaweqI asked jlibosva today if he can take a look at it14:29
slaweqthx mlavalle14:30
slaweqit seems from Your report that it was pretty quiet week14:31
slaweqthis week our bug deputy is rubasov and he's already aware of it14:32
slaweqnext week will be ralonsoh and I will make sure that he will not forget :P14:32
slaweqany other bugs anyone wants to discuss today?14:33
slaweqok, if not I think we can move on14:35
slaweqI have one more item for today14:35
slaweq#topic On demand agenda14:35
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slaweqUser survey question14:35
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slaweqI recently got email from Kendall about this years user survey and if we want to change something in neutron related question14:36
slaweqI should send proposal of changes this week14:36
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slaweqI already started looking at it14:36
slaweqbut I wanted to ask You if You want me to send it to the ML that we can discuss it together or do You want me to update possible options in the question?14:37
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njohnstonwhat are our current questions?14:38
slaweqnjohnston: there is one which I got:14:38
slaweq"Which of the following features in the Neutron project are you actively using, interested in using or looking forward to useing in your OpenStack deployment?"14:39
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slaweqand there is about 21 possible options to choose14:39
njohnstonah yes, now I am rememberig14:40
njohnstonI think the list of options is pretty stable14:41
slaweqyes, but I have couple of types to add there14:41
slaweqlike e.g. SR-IOV, Trunk ports or port forwarding14:42
slaweqwhich are not there14:42
slaweqand for some of the answers I'm really not sure what they means exactly14:43
slaweqlike e.g.: "traffic steering" - is that networking-sfc?14:43
slaweqor something different?14:43
slaweqmlavalle: njohnston maybe You would know :)14:44
njohnstonwhen I think of "traffic steering" I think of something like lbaas14:44
slaweqfor lbaas is another option: "software load balancing"14:45
njohnstonthen it probably refers to policy based routing, which is under the SFC umbrella14:45
haleybmaybe remove any lbaas?  there is this octavia project :)14:45
slaweqnjohnston: thx for clarification14:46
slaweqhaleyb: yes, that's another thing which I was thinking of14:46
slaweqhaleyb: I will propose to remove this option from the list :)14:47
slaweqthere is also option "Port mirroring/monitoring" there14:48
slaweqdo we have something like that in Neutron?14:48
slaweqwe had TaaS project but is it related to it?14:48
lajoskatonabut that is in x/ namespace now14:48
slaweqlajoskatona: exactly14:49
slaweqthat's why I'm not sure about it14:49
njohnstontap as a service was all about port mirroring14:49
lajoskatonaand for sure it is used14:49
slaweqok, so lets keep it there14:50
lajoskatonabut far from being mature enough14:50
slaweqit may be some argument to include it (or not) in stadium at some point if that will be requested :)14:50
njohnstonAFAIK TaaS is the only way to achieve real port mirroring14:50
njohnston(in tenant networks)14:50
slaweqso that were all doubts which I had14:51
slaweqthx for help with it14:51
slaweqand that's all from me for today14:51
slaweqanything else You want to talk about?14:51
slaweqok, so I will give you few minutes back today14:53
slaweqthx for attending the meeting14:53
slaweqsee You online14:53
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