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| gibi | #startmeeting nova | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 10 16:00:34 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 16:00 |
| bauzas | \o | 16:01 |
| gibi | o. | 16:01 |
| elod | o/ | 16:01 |
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| stephenfin | o/ | 16:02 |
| gibi | lets get started | 16:02 |
| gibi | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:02 | |
| gibi | the https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1882521 has been marked Critical | 16:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1882521 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Failing device detachments on Focal" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Lee Yarwood (lyarwood) | 16:02 |
| gibi | lyarwood opened a qemu bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/1894804 | 16:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1894804 in QEMU "Second DEVICE_DELETED event missing during virtio-blk disk device detach" [Undecided,New] | 16:02 |
| bauzas | well, technically, we haven't regressed and our gate isn't broken | 16:04 |
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| lyarwood | \o | 16:04 |
| bauzas | so the Critical status is remarkable | 16:04 |
| gibi | do we consider this as release critical? shall I mark it with victoria-rc-potential tag? | 16:04 |
| lyarwood | which bug is this sorry? | 16:04 |
| gibi | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1882521 | 16:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1882521 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Failing device detachments on Focal" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Lee Yarwood (lyarwood) | 16:04 |
| lyarwood | so how is this is not critical? | 16:05 |
| bauzas | my point was, I totally understand this being a priority | 16:05 |
| lyarwood | focal is the supported os from V | 16:05 |
| lyarwood | for* | 16:05 |
| bauzas | is this used in the gate ? | 16:05 |
| lyarwood | yes | 16:05 |
| bauzas | ok, then tagging the bug | 16:05 |
| bauzas | if so, nothing to complain | 16:06 |
| bauzas | do we have a logstash query ? | 16:06 |
| lyarwood | I can write one up if it's required | 16:06 |
| bauzas | trying to see how much this impacts | 16:06 |
| gibi | lyarwood: it is actually not breaking the gate right now, is it? | 16:06 |
| lyarwood | at the moment we've added the failing tests to a blacklist on a number of jobs | 16:07 |
| bauzas | gibi: to answer your question, looks like it's a good candidate indeed | 16:07 |
| bauzas | gibi: that's my whole question | 16:07 |
| gibi | lyarwood: and we have the intention to remove them from the backlist before V? | 16:07 |
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| bauzas | Criticals are for either regression or gate failures | 16:07 |
| gibi | if so then it is release critical | 16:07 |
| bauzas | agreed on this one | 16:07 |
| lyarwood | gibi: right that's my understanding | 16:07 |
| gibi | OK | 16:07 |
| gibi | then I added victoria-rc-potential to the bug too | 16:08 |
| bauzas | again, I think we need to identify the impact | 16:08 |
| bauzas | I haven't seen personnally the gate borked by this one but I could be wrong | 16:08 |
| sean-k-mooney | by which? | 16:08 |
| gibi | bauzas: it is not borked as the test is turned off | 16:08 |
| sean-k-mooney | missed the start | 16:08 |
| lyarwood | because it hasn't moved to focal yet | 16:08 |
| sean-k-mooney | oh focal | 16:09 |
| lyarwood | sean-k-mooney: the focal detach bug | 16:09 |
| lyarwood | sean-k-mooney: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1882521 | 16:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1882521 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Failing device detachments on Focal" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Lee Yarwood (lyarwood) | 16:09 |
| sean-k-mooney | ya so we think that likel a cirros/qemu bug not nova right | 16:09 |
| bauzas | ok, now I have a better understanding, thanks | 16:09 |
| sean-k-mooney | i know we may be able to adress it in nova better | 16:09 |
| sean-k-mooney | but the difference in behavior on focal is likely cause by somethign external to nova | 16:09 |
| sean-k-mooney | i dont think we should be holding swapting the gate jobs to focal because of this | 16:10 |
| lyarwood | well the knock on impact is that we lose some coverage in the gate | 16:10 |
| bauzas | sean-k-mooney: is that 100% reproducible when you detach a device on Focal ? | 16:10 |
| sean-k-mooney | if we really need too we could run a centos-8 job for the test coverage | 16:10 |
| lyarwood | but you're right there's not a lot we can do about it in Nova | 16:10 |
| sean-k-mooney | bauzas: not 100% | 16:11 |
| lyarwood | sean-k-mooney: what about Fedora? /s | 16:11 |
| sean-k-mooney | bauzas: you need suffenct load | 16:11 |
| sean-k-mooney | lyarwood: no | 16:11 |
| sean-k-mooney | i dont think we shoudl have gating jobs on fedora | 16:11 |
| gibi | so we move to focal, keep the test disabled, and if qemu or us figure out a fix then we build an RC+1 out of it | 16:11 |
| lyarwood | note the /s | 16:11 |
| lyarwood | gibi: ack | 16:11 |
| sean-k-mooney | centos-8 has the same verion of qemu and libvirt as focal | 16:11 |
| bauzas | sean-k-mooney: lyarwood: so the logstash query is like super important | 16:11 |
| gibi | #action lyarwood to provide a logstash query | 16:12 |
| bauzas | gibi: is there something we need to do from a nova perspective ? | 16:12 |
| gibi | can we move on? | 16:12 |
| gibi | bauzas: handle the communication in the qemu bugreport?! | 16:12 |
| bauzas | because from my understanding, I don't see anything actionable from nova during RC1 | 16:12 |
| sean-k-mooney | bauzas: we may be able to handel the detach more gracefully | 16:12 |
| lyarwood | sean-k-mooney: that still wouldn't fix it btw | 16:12 |
| bauzas | or requiring a patch to be shipped in RC1, if you prefer | 16:12 |
| bauzas | my whole point | 16:13 |
| bauzas | I don't see a need for us to leave a Critical bug unresolvable on our side | 16:13 |
| gibi | bauzas: if qemu devs could point out a workaround that is implementable on nova side then we can release that | 16:13 |
| lyarwood | there's nothing in Nova at the moment but I think we still need to track this to remove tests from the blacklist before GA if QEMU is fixed | 16:13 |
| sean-k-mooney | ok so maybe just drop critical and make it high | 16:14 |
| lyarwood | sure if it's going to stop us going around in circles ;D | 16:14 |
| sean-k-mooney | :) | 16:14 |
| gibi | lets back to this next week | 16:14 |
| gibi | moving on | 16:14 |
| bauzas | the point is, we're going to track this bugreport as something due for RC1 | 16:14 |
| bauzas | but if that doesn't bother people here... | 16:14 |
| bauzas | :) | 16:15 |
| gibi | I think we would like to track it | 16:15 |
| gibi | anyhow | 16:15 |
| gibi | beside this single bug there are 36 new untriaged bugs (+7 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 16:15 |
| gibi | so there are inflow we have to look at | 16:15 |
| gibi | and triage | 16:15 |
| gibi | if you see regressions then please tag them with victoria-rc-potential | 16:16 |
| gmann | yeah that is one the blocker for Focal migration - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-September/017104.html | 16:16 |
| bauzas | gibi: I'm on bug triaging next week | 16:16 |
| gibi | bauzas: thanks. I will also try. I will let you know when taking the baton | 16:16 |
| bauzas | hopefully the number will decrease | 16:16 |
| bauzas | gibi: sure | 16:16 |
| gibi | any other bug we need to talk about here? | 16:17 |
| gibi | #topic Runways | 16:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Runways (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:18 | |
| gibi | etherpad #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-runways-victoria | 16:18 |
| gibi | runways is being closed now for Victoria due to feature freeze | 16:18 |
| gibi | thanks for participating in it | 16:18 |
| gibi | #topic Release Planning | 16:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release Planning (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:19 | |
| gibi | we have Feature Freeze today | 16:19 |
| gibi | as of Milestone 3 | 16:19 |
| gibi | Feature Freeze Exception can be requested on the ML. See my mail #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-September/017111.html | 16:19 |
| gibi | I don't expect a long list of requests | 16:19 |
| gibi | we have the release tracking etherpad #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-victoria-rc-potential | 16:20 |
| gibi | please add release TODOs there | 16:20 |
| gibi | as well as critical patches | 16:20 |
| gibi | we have the last client library release for victoria today, so python-novaclient has been released #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/750429/ | 16:20 |
| gibi | We need to produce release notes prelude before RC1 (in two weeks), bauzas started to write it up | 16:21 |
| gibi | We need to set RPC version aliases before RC1 | 16:21 |
| bauzas | gibi: I'll provide the change number before the meeting end | 16:21 |
| gibi | bauzas: thanks! | 16:21 |
| bauzas | gibi: remember we had a discussion last cycle on RPC major versioning | 16:22 |
| gibi | bauzas: yeah I started on it but lost focuse | 16:22 |
| bauzas | and we said it was quite a large effort for a little gain | 16:22 |
| bauzas | should we try to make it real ? | 16:22 |
| gibi | I will re-try it in W | 16:22 |
| bauzas | I can take a look if that helps | 16:22 |
| gibi | let's get back to this early W, I will add a line to the PTG etherpad about it | 16:23 |
| bauzas | gibi: we're two weeks from RC1, maybe we can try it | 16:23 |
| bauzas | kk | 16:23 |
| bauzas | I used to write some of such changes in the past | 16:23 |
| gibi | last cycle we discussed that this should be started lot earlier than M3 | 16:23 |
| bauzas | I'm maybe rusty but I feel brave enough | 16:23 |
| bauzas | right | 16:23 |
| bauzas | but I forgot | 16:24 |
| bauzas | well, the point is, you need at least two changes | 16:24 |
| gibi | yepp | 16:24 |
| gibi | anything else about the coming release? | 16:24 |
| gibi | #topic Stable Branches | 16:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable Branches (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:25 | |
| gibi | any news? | 16:25 |
| elod | nothing much from my side. patches landed slowly but steady since last week. | 16:27 |
| gibi | thanks elod | 16:27 |
| gibi | #topic Sub/related team Highlights | 16:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sub/related team Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:27 | |
| gibi | API (gmann) | 16:27 |
| gmann | policy file json to yaml migration patches are merged. | 16:27 |
| gmann | we have officially deprecated the JSON format of the policy file (but having a fallback to old default of json file). | 16:28 |
| gmann | also upgrade check is added for detect the JSON formatted file. sometime in future, we will be able to remove the JSON support itself and can have erorr from oslo side. | 16:28 |
| gmann | error | 16:28 |
| gibi | cool | 16:28 |
| gmann | but from nova side, all work is done. | 16:28 |
| stephenfin | \o/ | 16:28 |
| gibi | thanks | 16:28 |
| gibi | Libvirt (bauzas) | 16:29 |
| bauzas | nothing to report but lyarwood had a thing last week IIRC | 16:29 |
| bauzas | which was... versioning ! | 16:29 |
| lyarwood | just the QEMU and libvirt version bumps | 16:29 |
| lyarwood | but that's on hold until we move to focal | 16:29 |
| lyarwood | reviews still welcome | 16:29 |
| bauzas | which makes sense | 16:30 |
| bauzas | lyarwood: link ? | 16:30 |
| lyarwood | https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bump-libvirt-qemu-victoria | 16:30 |
| bauzas | ++ | 16:30 |
| gibi | thanks | 16:30 |
| gibi | #topic PTG and Forum planning | 16:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG and Forum planning (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:30 | |
| stephenfin | lyarwood: I thought I'd all those done? | 16:30 |
| stephenfin | wait, nvm | 16:31 |
| gibi | I've booked PTG slots for us see mail #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-September/017063.html | 16:31 |
| gibi | please collect PTG topics in #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-wallaby-ptg | 16:31 |
| gibi | if you need cross project sessions please let me know | 16:32 |
| gibi | cyborg already did | 16:32 |
| gibi | any other PTG related topic? | 16:32 |
| sean-k-mooney | im not sure if we will need with with cinder or neutron | 16:32 |
| gibi | at least no topics yet | 16:32 |
| gibi | #topic Open discussion | 16:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:33 | |
| gibi | I have one | 16:33 |
| gibi | I will approve the vmware undeprecation patch after this meeting if no objection. #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/742407/ | 16:33 |
| gibi | so any objections? | 16:33 |
| sean-k-mooney | we have one potential downstream request realted to ceph that would require cinder/nova coperateion but at present i think its premature to add to the ptg for what its worth | 16:33 |
| lyarwood | sean-k-mooney: the users thing? | 16:34 |
| gibi | sean-k-mooney: ack, just plug it to the ethepad if it become serious | 16:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | lyarwood: yes | 16:34 |
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| gibi | so vmware going once | 16:35 |
| gibi | going twice | 16:35 |
| gibi | approved | 16:35 |
| sean-k-mooney | cool | 16:35 |
| bauzas | you're the PTL, dude | 16:35 |
| bauzas | stand up | 16:35 |
| bauzas | people had time to argue | 16:35 |
| bauzas | :) | 16:36 |
| gibi | :) | 16:36 |
| gibi | any other open discussion topic? | 16:36 |
| gibi | if not then thanks for joining today | 16:37 |
| gibi | it is beer time in the EU anyhow | 16:37 |
| gibi | #endmeeting | 16:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:37 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 10 16:37:42 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-09-10-16.00.html | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-09-10-16.00.txt | 16:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-09-10-16.00.log.html | 16:37 |
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| bauzas | gibi: meh, my keg is empty :( :( :( | 16:39 |
| gibi | I'm sorry for hearing that | 16:39 |
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