Thursday, 2021-01-14

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gibi#startmeeting nova16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 14 16:00:23 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)"16:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'16:00
dansmitho/ (but in another meeting)16:02
gibi#topic Bugs (stuck/critical)16:02
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gibiNo Critical bugs16:02
gibi#link 16 new untriaged bugs (-1 since the last meeting): #link
gibiis there any bug we need to discuss?16:03
gibi#topic Gate status16:04
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gibigate on master is not blocked16:04
gibiI see some glance multistore test timeout16:05
gibibut I was not able to create a logstash signature for it16:05
dansmithI'm looking at the multistore thing now16:06
gibidansmith: thanks!16:06
dansmithother than that,16:06
dansmiththe gate seems rather sick just in terms of backlog16:06
dansmith24 hours to get a result on a patch16:06
gibi5:43 < fungi> there was a cinder host outage in rackspace which took down one of the devices which make up the data store for our afs02.dfw server so lots of very large volumes (including package16:06
gibi               mirrors) are having to be re-replicated from scratch and it's taking a while16:06
gibithis is probalby the reason ^^16:06
fungihow would that impact it?16:07
gibifungi: I assume it made our job execution slower than usual16:07
gibihence the backlog16:07
fungiour package mirrors are a couple days old, tarballs site content is about a day behind, same for docs site...16:07
fungibut none of that should be affecting anyone's jobs16:08
gibifungi: sorry, then my mistake16:08
dansmithokay well, it seems rather unhealthy at the moment16:08
dansmithI dunno if that's due to fails or just load, but I have things I submitted 20h ago that haven't even started16:09
gibiyepp, but then I don't know the reason16:09
gibiwe also saw reappearing on the gate16:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1882521 in OpenStack Compute (nova) ussuri "Failing device detachments on Focal" [Undecided,New]16:09
gibiso I started working on the libvirt event based detach solution16:10
gibiit will take couple of day before it will be ready for review16:10
gibiany other gate issue we need to talk about?16:11
fungidansmith: there is a significant backlog, seems like a combination of some projects sending changes into the gate which have unstable testing, and also just lots of additional activity the past week (maybe leading up to milestone 2?)16:11
fungiand more generally, some projects just run a massive number of jobs these days16:12
fungi(not to pick on neutron, but expand a neutron change in the status page some time and take a look at what it runs)16:12
dansmithfungi: yeah, getting the scoop from clark now16:13
gibiif nothing else about the gate then moving on16:14
gibi#topic Runway status16:14
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gibiwe have couple of thing ready to be reviewed16:15
gibi    Cyborg shelve/unshelve support
gibi (stephenfin)
gibithis has my +1 all over it16:16
gibibut obviously we need more eyes16:16
gibi (gibi)
gibistephen has +2s on the qos series so that also needs one more core to look through16:17
gibifrom (stephenfin) only the client side patch remains but that already has got some review feedback16:17
stephenfinyup, I'll respin that shortly16:17
stephenfinneed to address gmann's comments on the policy follow up too16:18
gmannyeah policy one too16:18
gibigood point there is a policy follow up there16:18
bauzasoh, forgot to review this series16:18
gibilast but not least the Nova supports password encrypted VNC (brinzhang) also progressing well. I left some feedback on it16:19
gmannis this next possible candidate for 2.89 microversion  ?16:19
gmannand then remove-tenant one. or we just review and see how it goes?16:19
gibibrinzhang queued the tenant series after the vnc patch16:19
gmannah i see depends now16:19
gmannthat is nice.16:19
gibiyepp it helps avoiding confusion16:20
gibiif you have code ready to review please plug the link into the runway etherpad
gibimoving on16:21
gibi#topic Release Planning16:21
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gibiMilestone 2 is next week, which is spec freeze16:21
gibiso if you still have open specs you want to get implemented in W then it is the last chance16:22
gibiwe spent sizeable effort on so I guess there will be a push there next week before the freeze16:23
gibi(Libvirt supports composing cyborg owned vGPU accelerator into domain XML)16:24
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bauzasmy open concerns are still there16:24
sean-k-mooneyi have 2 specs up for review and artom has 116:24
sean-k-mooneyi skimed the vgpu one a few times i can take a look again16:25
gibisean-k-mooney: ack, I will try to spend some time on those new specs tomorrow morning16:25
sean-k-mooneyi didnt leave review comments before16:25
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gibianything else regarding M2 and the incoming release?16:26
bauzasI'll loudly explain that we shouldn't think about vGPU features between Cyborg and Nova are competitive16:26
bauzas*being* competitve16:26
sean-k-mooneybauzas: you mean we should not be deprecating one in favor of the other16:26
sean-k-mooneywe shoudl offer both16:27
sean-k-mooneyat least for the next few releases16:27
gibibauzas: and I'm on the side that there is a duplication which means maintenance overhead16:27
bauzaswe shouldn't even explain in the spec the differences16:27
sean-k-mooneygibi: sure but cyborg is not productied so with my downstream had on it will be at least 2 years before it can be used in our poduct16:28
bauzasgibi: not if the methods are the same in the libvirt driver16:28
bauzasbut anyway, will continue to provide my comments16:28
sean-k-mooneygibi: currently we dont plan to support it in our next release and its not on the road map for the one after16:29
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bauzashonestly, how many operators are using Cyborg atm ?16:29
gibisean-k-mooney: I know that16:29
bauzasbut maybe not asking it there16:29
bauzasI'm already loud and that's not the moment we should be discussing about it16:30
gibiOK, moving on then16:30
bauzasmoving on ?16:30
bauzasplease, yeah16:30
gibi#topic Stable Branches16:30
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gibicopying elod's summary:16:30
gibionly stable/rocky remained blocked but fix is on gate -
gibilower-constraints jobs were set to non-voting for Stein and Rocky16:30
gibi~150 open stable patches16:30
gibianything else about stable?16:32
gibi#topic Sub/related team Highlights16:32
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gibiLibvirt (bauzas)16:32
bauzasnothing to report, sir.16:33
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gibi#topic Open discussion16:33
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gibiwe have on item on the agenda16:33
gibi(stephenfin) Get consensus on
gibi    I have reworked to replace periods with hyphens, rather than truncate after the first period. Does anyone have concerns with this approach?16:33
stephenfinper $subject16:33
stephenfinartom and sean-k-mooney have already looked at it and are +116:33
stephenfinI'm just raising this because we discussed it before Xmas and the solution is different to what we agreed, per above16:34
gibiI have no objectsion16:34
bauzaswill review it16:35
sean-k-mooneywell we agree to ask operators on the ml and they did not have a preference so we just chose one16:35
sean-k-mooneyand you invited them to comment if they had issues16:35
stephenfinyup, exactly16:36
gibiI interpret the silence that other are also OK with this as is. But if not the review is still open16:36
sean-k-mooneyso i think we can just proceed with the review16:36
stephenfingibi: makes sense16:36
gibithen it is decided16:36
bauzas(and stephen removes after the first period, so definitely +1 :D )16:36
gibianything else for today?16:37
stephenfinnothing from me16:37
sean-k-mooneydo we want to have a review day before m216:37
sean-k-mooneyor just review as normal for specs16:37
gibiI think review as normal, we had two spec review days aroun m116:38
gibiand we have plenty of approved bps16:38
sean-k-mooneycool with me16:38
gibithen this was all for today16:39
gibithanks for joining16:39
gibihave a nice day16:39
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Jan 14 16:39:41 2021 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at . (v 0.1.4)16:39
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