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| gibi | #startmeeting nova | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 11 16:00:30 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 16:00 |
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| dansmith | o/ | 16:01 |
| stephenfin | o/ | 16:01 |
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| gibi | o/ | 16:02 |
| artom | ~o~ | 16:02 |
| gibi | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:02 | |
| gibi | No Critical bugs | 16:02 |
| gibi | #link 18 new untriaged bugs (+5 since the last meeting): #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 16:02 |
| lyarwood | \o | 16:02 |
| gibi | I've closed ~80 bugs opened about fault injections | 16:02 |
| gibi | it was fun | 16:03 |
| artom | :O | 16:03 |
| gibi | is there any bug we need to talk about here? | 16:03 |
| gibi | (btw this was the first fault injection bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1918340 ) | 16:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1918340 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Fault Injection #1 - improve unit test effectiveness" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 16:03 |
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| stephenfin | fun | 16:04 |
| stephenfin | gibi: sorry you had to go through that :) | 16:04 |
| stephenfin | we can spend time on the bug backlog next week, I guess | 16:04 |
| gibi | sure | 16:05 |
| gmann | o/ | 16:05 |
| dansmith | niice | 16:05 |
| gibi | if no needy bug then moving on | 16:05 |
| gibi | #topic Gate status | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:05 | |
| gibi | gate is in a shape as expected around FF | 16:05 |
| dansmith | pretty decent, considering actually | 16:05 |
| gibi | please try to recheck only things that are either bugs or has a chance to be approved before EOB today | 16:06 |
| gibi | s/bugs/bugfixes/ | 16:06 |
| gibi | #topic Feature status | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Feature status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:06 | |
| gibi | let meg copy a list from the agenda | 16:06 |
| gibi | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-support-webvnc-with-password-anthentication : in merge conflict with negative review so I assume it is deferred from Wallaby | 16:07 |
| gibi | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/compact-db-migrations-wallaby : patches has been approved, implementation going through the gate | 16:07 |
| gibi | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/modernize-os-hypervisors-api : merged, the policy part is deferred out from Wallaby | 16:07 |
| * bauzas is around | 16:07 | |
| gibi | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-default-machine-type : merged, except the integration testing. That can still land after FF. | 16:07 |
| gibi | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/pci-socket-affinity : expected to be approved today | 16:07 |
| gibi | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/port-scoped-sriov-numa-affinity : expected to be approved today | 16:07 |
| gibi | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-vdpa-support : still open | 16:07 |
| gibi | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/allow-secure-boot-for-qemu-kvm-guests : still open | 16:07 |
| stephenfin | for nova-support-webvnc-with-password-anthentication, we're deferring | 16:08 |
| bauzas | the secure boot series got +Wd | 16:08 |
| gibi | the rest is either merged or in a shape that means it is deferred | 16:08 |
| gibi | bauzas: thanks that is good news | 16:08 |
| gibi | stephenfin: ack | 16:08 |
| stephenfin | Melwitt and I took a close look at it and there were some serious issues with usability that meant we weren't happy merging it | 16:08 |
| bauzas | we still have a few patches up, but those are FUPs that can merge after FF | 16:08 |
| gibi | bauzas: sure | 16:08 |
| gibi | is there any other bp that I'm not listed up there but the author still thinks it has a chance to land? | 16:09 |
| stephenfin | regarding https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-vdpa-support I've been going through that with Sean and helping them reorder things so they're fit to merge. I've gone through it with a fine comb now and am happy with all but a few things | 16:09 |
| stephenfin | problem is you need some PCI knowhow to really review, hence why it's got so few eyes I suspect | 16:09 |
| gibi | I can take a look at one series before I time out for today | 16:10 |
| gibi | so if nothing else pops up then I will look at the vdpa | 16:10 |
| stephenfin | that would be great | 16:11 |
| gibi | one more thing I not listed above is the smartnic support. I finished with the review today but I had a lot of findings so I assume that is also deferred | 16:11 |
| gibi | anything else about features? | 16:12 |
| stephenfin | the other thing I had on my list was the change to enable 'openstack server --hostname' | 16:12 |
| stephenfin | it's small, but it's had no attention so I think we should defer | 16:12 |
| stephenfin | and merge early in Xena | 16:13 |
| gibi | yeah, I had no time to dig into that | 16:13 |
| gibi | sorry | 16:13 |
| dansmith | is that just an osc thing, | 16:13 |
| stephenfin | All good. I left it late | 16:13 |
| dansmith | or requires an api? | 16:13 |
| stephenfin | Nah, microversion change | 16:13 |
| dansmith | okay | 16:13 |
| stephenfin | just a new field in the request, but any microversion change brings a lot of boilerplate changes with it | 16:13 |
| stephenfin | *server create request | 16:13 |
| dansmith | sure sure, | 16:13 |
| dansmith | just wasn't sure if we had it already and just needed to pass it or not | 16:14 |
| stephenfin | not yet, no | 16:14 |
| stephenfin | change is here for context https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/778550 | 16:14 |
| stephenfin | (ignore the fail - it's irrelevant) | 16:14 |
| stephenfin | but like I said, I'm happy to defer. This was really a nice-to-have | 16:15 |
| dansmith | yup. I was just curious | 16:15 |
| stephenfin | ack | 16:15 |
| gibi | anything else? | 16:15 |
| stephenfin | not from me | 16:15 |
| gibi | #topic Release Planning | 16:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release Planning (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:15 | |
| gibi | so we have Feature Freeze today EOB | 16:15 |
| gibi | FFE process posted on the ML #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-March/020772.html | 16:16 |
| gibi | but I not expecting FFE requests | 16:16 |
| gibi | So from tomorrow lets focus on high priority bugs and patches that preparing the RC1 | 16:16 |
| gibi | RC1 is in two weeks | 16:16 |
| gibi | (and do the rechecks for the already approved things_) | 16:17 |
| dansmith | I think we're looking for another rev of the rpc bump | 16:17 |
| gibi | I can put my eyes on it when needed | 16:17 |
| gibi | release todos are tracked on the etherpad #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-wallaby-rc-potential | 16:18 |
| gibi | like cycle highlights, reno prelude and other necessities | 16:18 |
| gibi | also please use wallaby-rc-potential tag on bugs that you consider warranting a new RC if fixed | 16:19 |
| artom | Currently there are none, FWIW | 16:19 |
| artom | (Yey?) | 16:19 |
| gibi | because we are awesome and everything works :) | 16:20 |
| gibi | any other release related topic to discuss | 16:20 |
| gibi | ? | 16:20 |
| * dansmith hopes those words tase good later | 16:20 | |
| dansmith | *taste | 16:20 |
| gibi | I'm not naive I'm sarcastic :) | 16:21 |
| dansmith | heh I know :P | 16:21 |
| gibi | :) | 16:21 |
| gibi | oh one more thing the TC and PTL nominations are closed this week | 16:21 |
| gibi | as thing looks you stuck with me as the PTL for the next 6 months | 16:22 |
| gmann | \o/ | 16:22 |
| gibi | #topic PTG planning | 16:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG planning (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:22 | |
| gibi | PTG date had been announced: April 19-23, 2021 | 16:22 |
| gibi | Use the PTG etherpad to collect topics: #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-xena-ptg | 16:23 |
| gibi | Please fill the doodle about the timing of the nova slots before end of next week #link https://doodle.com/poll/ib2eu3c4346iqii3 | 16:23 |
| gibi | as I have to "book" those virtual roomns | 16:23 |
| gibi | any questions about the PTG? | 16:23 |
| lyarwood | gibi: did you have a deadline in mind for topics? | 16:24 |
| gibi | I will do etherpad reorg before the PTG week | 16:24 |
| gibi | so that is sort-of deadline. anything comes after might end up at the end of the pad | 16:25 |
| lyarwood | yeah ack that's fine, just something to keep in mind as stuff comes in from downstream ;) | 16:25 |
| gibi | but if you have topics that needs more than the nova team (e.g. cinder, neutron, cyborg) then please prioritize those as we need to find a common time with the other teams then | 16:25 |
| lyarwood | yup understood | 16:26 |
| gibi | anything else about the PTG? | 16:26 |
| gibi | #topic Stable Branches | 16:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable Branches (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:27 | |
| gibi | copying elod's update from the agenda | 16:27 |
| gibi | lyarwood found issue with ceph plugin, that seems to block now *train* and older branches -- fix: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/780014 | 16:27 |
| gibi | victoria + ussury should be OK | 16:27 |
| gibi | elod prepares victoria + ussuri + train(?) release patches tomorrow, March 12th | 16:27 |
| gibi | EOM | 16:27 |
| gibi | thanks elod | 16:27 |
| lyarwood | FWIW I had nothing urgent to land ahead of the releases elod | 16:27 |
| elod | lyarwood: ack | 16:28 |
| gibi | if nothing else then I skipping over the libvirt subteam topic as bauzas told me that nothing to report there | 16:28 |
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| gibi | #topic Open discussion | 16:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 16:29 | |
| gibi | nothing on the agenda | 16:29 |
| gibi | is there anything we need to discuss? | 16:29 |
| dansmith | I have a thing | 16:29 |
| gibi | go | 16:29 |
| dansmith | so, I want to do that funny thing and ask a glance question in the nova meeting.. BUT I have a good reason :) | 16:30 |
| dansmith | is anyone here familiar with the glance metadef api, how it may be used, and by who? | 16:30 |
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| dansmith | the reason I ask is that it seems mostly there to collect nova-related metadata | 16:30 |
| dansmith | as was noted earlier on the list, there are multiple low-grade security problems with the API, and the glance team needs some info from people that actually use it in order to know how and when to fix it | 16:31 |
| dansmith | since it's nova metadata (i.e. image metadata that affects instances) related, I thought maybe someone here might know | 16:31 |
| stephenfin | dansmith: sean isn't here, weirdly, but they talk about it a lot | 16:32 |
| gibi | besides some common image metadata usage I did not see metadef usage in our downstream bug tracker | 16:32 |
| dansmith | gibi: ack, that's good to know, not in ours either :) | 16:32 |
| dansmith | stephenfin: ah yeah I thought sean might be a candidate, but didn't notice he wasn't in here | 16:32 |
| stephenfin | they wanted to use it for the extra spec validation stuff we did in microversion 2.87 but we found it was mega out-of-date and the definitions were really hard to define/extend | 16:32 |
| stephenfin | xml-- iitv | 16:33 |
| stephenfin | *iirc | 16:33 |
| dansmith | so they thought maybe it would be useful, but decided not to try, is that right? | 16:33 |
| dansmith | not.. are using it, or were using it, or.. | 16:33 |
| stephenfin | yeah, correct. I added that microversion and just went with our own schema format | 16:34 |
| dansmith | it seems to be a "feature" that was "designed" and dropped on the community all in a short period, and then the originators are all long gone, | 16:34 |
| stephenfin | yeah, that's my impression too | 16:34 |
| dansmith | so it's hard to know if anyone actually uses it, whether it serves any purpose anymore, etc | 16:34 |
| stephenfin | I think Horizon might use it too | 16:34 |
| dansmith | yeah, horizon and heat are the two things we're wondering about | 16:34 |
| stephenfin | when you're creating the guest I see some "CIM" metadata and I think that's coming from the Glance API | 16:34 |
| dansmith | horizon was one of the original goals, I think, but.. | 16:34 |
| dansmith | okay there are some CIM things in there by default, so maybe that's right | 16:35 |
| stephenfin | if it were an option, deprecating it in Glance might make more sense. nova already validates image metadata and flavor extra specs for you | 16:35 |
| dansmith | by default, it's completely wide open, any user can create anything they want, and as much as they want (until the DB is full), and there isn't proper tenancy protection | 16:35 |
| dansmith | deprecating is an option, | 16:36 |
| dansmith | we're recommending disabling it in policy by default and unless you want or need it for something | 16:36 |
| dansmith | but we want to know if we should fix or deprecate | 16:36 |
| stephenfin | and we (nova) could add an API if people wanted a way to retrieve information about the metadata we support (extra specs and image meta props) ahead of time, though I suspect that's a very small use case | 16:36 |
| dansmith | I think the goal is to make things like horizon able to offer up common metadata, not so much for the validation part | 16:36 |
| dansmith | yeah, basically a serialized ImageMetadataProperties representation I guess | 16:37 |
| stephenfin | yeah | 16:37 |
| stephenfin | nova at least will ignore everything else | 16:37 |
| stephenfin | though nova isn't the only thing talking to glance of course | 16:37 |
| dansmith | aight, so gibi you just checked your downstream bug tracker in response to the OSSN I guess to see if your customers were using it? | 16:38 |
| dansmith | or at least, reporting issues with it I guess | 16:38 |
| gibi | yes | 16:38 |
| stephenfin | (I say of course but I'm not actually sure if anyone else talks to Glance) | 16:38 |
| gibi | nothing really popped up | 16:38 |
| dansmith | and are you planning to just push out policy to disable? | 16:38 |
| gibi | I don't have the infor about that yet | 16:38 |
| gibi | but I can ask around | 16:38 |
| dansmith | okay | 16:39 |
| gibi | I would disable with policy yes | 16:39 |
| dansmith | okay, well, we're asking ops to come to ptg with use cases or data about it, | 16:39 |
| dansmith | not sure if we'll get any, but if you have anything that comes from asking that you want me to point out there, let me know | 16:40 |
| dansmith | and I'll poke sean after this | 16:40 |
| dansmith | that's all, thanks for the discussion | 16:40 |
| gibi | sounds good | 16:40 |
| gibi | anything else for today? | 16:40 |
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| gibi | then thanks for joining today. Happy FF folks! :) | 16:41 |
| stephenfin | thanks! o/ | 16:42 |
| gibi | #endmeeting | 16:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:42 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 11 16:42:12 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2021/nova.2021-03-11-16.00.html | 16:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2021/nova.2021-03-11-16.00.txt | 16:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2021/nova.2021-03-11-16.00.log.html | 16:42 |
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