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slaweq#startmeeting networking14:01
openstackMeeting started Tue May 25 14:01:19 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)"14:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking'14:01
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slaweq#topic announcements14:02
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slaweqXena cycle calendar https://releases.openstack.org/xena/schedule.html14:02
slaweqthis week is Xena-1 milestone already14:02
slaweq(time flies :))14:02
slaweqXena-2 will be week of the Jul 1214:02
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lajoskatonaHi14:03
slaweqNomination for Y names' proposals is still open http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-May/022383.html14:04
slaweqif You have any ideas, You can propose it there14:04
slaweqnext one14:04
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slaweqOpenStack SDK - r1.0 feature branch will be created, we should now propose new patches to that branch and cherry-pick for master: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-May/022535.html14:05
slaweqso if You plan to propose something to SDK, please follow the process mentioned there14:05
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slaweqand ask on the #openstack-sdks channel in case of any doubts :)14:05
slaweqand that's all annuncements from me for today14:06
slaweqdo You have anything else to add?14:06
bcafarelOVN back as devstack default? I think I saw that merged this morning :)14:06
slaweqbcafarel: oh, really? I probably missed it14:07
lajoskatonahttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/79143614:07
lajoskatonaI think this one14:07
bcafarelthanks I was looking up in my history, yes this is the one I saw14:08
slaweqgreat :)14:08
slaweqthx for the info14:08
obondarevare we sure all CI jobs that are supposed to be testing OVS not testing OVN now? :)14:09
ralonsohwe should have the neutron-tempest-plugin problems again14:09
slaweqobondarev: I think we should check it to be sure14:09
ralonsohwe'll need https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/791255 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/79114814:10
slaweqralonsoh: thx for the links14:11
lajoskatonaand these for some stadium: https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%2522ovn-devstack%2522+(status:open+OR+status:merged)+owner:%2522lajos+katona%252214:12
slaweqlajoskatona: thx for the links too14:12
amotokione question: whta happens if some GRE user uses neutron-tempest-tests?14:12
slaweqI already +2'ed all of them, so please others check them too :)14:12
lajoskatonaamotoki: What do you mean, downstream, or from opendev zuul?14:13
slaweqamotoki: those trunk tests should be skipped in such case14:13
amotokislaweq: because the upstream testing env does not support it?14:14
ralonsohwe can always switch to OVS, if needed: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/79141714:14
ralonsohor create a new CI job (not recommended)14:15
slaweqyes, at least according to https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/791255/3/neutron_tempest_plugin/api/test_trunk.py#250 IIUC14:15
amotokislaweq: okay. I have no strong opinion on it.14:16
amotokiif GRE users want to test these in their deployments, they should write their own tests. okay.14:16
amotokiI am not sure we really have these needs though.14:17
slaweqamotoki: but if someone is running those tests on env with GRE enabled, then it's not OVN backend14:17
amotokislaweq: yes14:17
amotokiI am looking at https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/791255/3/neutron_tempest_plugin/api/test_trunk.py#25014:17
slaweqok, I see Your point now14:17
slaweqwe should make check in that L250 smarter14:18
amotokiI think it is part of the API tests, so they are backend agnostic.14:18
slaweqand aware of backend probably somehow14:18
slaweqI will open LP and will try to make it smarter14:20
slaweqbut for now let's go with ralonsoh's patch to unblock the gate14:20
slaweqis that ok for You?14:20
amotokislaweq: works for me :)14:20
slaweqthx14:20
slaweqand thx for raising that here14:20
slaweqok, let's move on then14:21
slaweq#topic Blueprints14:21
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slaweqI moved opened BPs to Xena-2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/xena-214:22
slaweqdo You have any updates about any of them?14:22
slaweqI have only small update about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/secure-rbac-roles14:24
slaweqthere is only few patches opened in the list https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%2522secure-rbac%2522+status:open+project:openstack/neutron14:24
slaweqthx for all reviews14:24
slaweqand please check those few which are missing approval14:24
slaweqafter that I will check how to switch to new defaults in the devstack, so maybe we will be able to have one job running with them14:25
slaweqbut I didn't explored yet how to do it14:25
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lajoskatonaPlease review these (I was disconnected in the meantime....) : https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-specs/+/785236 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-specs/+/783791 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-specs/+/76733714:27
slaweqregarding liuyulong's BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/distributed-dhcp-for-ml2-ovs, we have also only few patches left https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22bp%252Fdistributed-dhcp-for-ml2-ovs%22+(status:open%20OR%20status:merged)14:27
slaweqthx lajoskatona for the links14:28
lajoskatonaslaweq: Good that You mention it, in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/776567/22/neutron/conf/plugins/ml2/drivers/ovs_conf.py there's a new cfg option to enable ipv6 dhcp,14:28
lajoskatonaI have some concenr as now IPv6 works out of the box (of course its more difficult as we need the infrastructure and othere cfg options) so that forks the API between "traiditonal" dhcp in Neutron and the new OVS based dhcp14:30
lajoskatonaPlease check if my feeling regarding this new cfg is incorrect, I can leave with it but we have to guard it with doc in that case14:30
slaweqlajoskatona: actually I think it's good point, I'm not sure why this config option is really needed14:32
slaweqit should works fine for the IPv6 subnets with DHCP stateful mode14:33
slaweqas dhcp agent works currently14:33
lajoskatona+114:34
obondarevI guess user might prefer to disable IPv6 DHCP if IPv6 is not used14:34
obondarevjust to not overload flow tables14:35
mlavallethat makes sense14:35
obondarevfor no good reason14:35
slaweqso rules could be added in the lazy way - when first such subnet would appear on the node14:35
slaweqbut maybe it's not as easy to implement, idk14:35
slaweqjust thinking loud now14:35
obondarevmakes sense, but still - even existence of IPv6 subnets may not mean user wants DHCP..14:36
lajoskatonaYeah, so perhaps it's the best solution, but than the doc should highlight it14:36
obondarev+114:36
slaweqobondarev: but I think about existence of the IPv6 subnet with dhcp mode DHCP stateful14:36
obondarevslaweq, got it, agree14:37
slaweqwhich means that user wants to have dhcp v6 provided :)14:37
slaweqfor SLAAC it's not needed14:37
slaweqI'm not sure about dhcpv6-stateless now14:37
haleybthat's SLAAC for addressing and DHCP for other bits, so could be needed there14:39
slaweqyeah, probably14:39
obondarevI think maybe config might be set to True by default, and document the ability to disable it with OVS DHCP extension14:39
slaweqobondarev: that can also be possibility14:39
slaweqanyway, let's continue that discussion in the gerrit14:39
lajoskatona+114:40
slaweq:)14:40
obondarevthus we'll preserve current behavior and no need for additional logic14:40
obondarevok :)14:40
slaweqlet's move on here14:40
slaweq#topic Bugs14:40
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slaweqbcafarel was bug deputy last week. Report http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-May/022674.html14:40
bcafarelall good overall (either bugs are already fixed or in progress)14:41
bcafarelI just wanted to highlight https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1929197 which would benefit from an OVN check14:42
openstackLaunchpad bug 1929197 in neutron "[OVN] SB connection unreliable" [Undecided,New]14:42
ralonsohI'll take a look at this one this week14:43
slaweqralonsoh++ thx14:43
bcafarelralonsoh: thanks I could not reproduce it and mentioned change should not have such visible impact, but better safe than sorry :)14:43
ralonsohfor sure14:44
slaweqthx bcafarel for the report14:44
slaweqany other bugs anyone wants to discuss today?14:44
ralonsohhttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/792945, please, +2 it again14:45
slaweqralonsoh: done :)14:46
ralonsohthanks14:46
slaweqyw :)14:48
slaweqthx for proposing patch to unblock the gate so fast :)14:48
slaweqthis week I'm bug deputy14:48
obondarev+114:48
slaweqso I'm already aware :)14:48
mlavalleGood14:48
bcafarelslaweq: just in case, don't forget to send yourself a reminder :)14:49
slaweqbcafarel: sure :D14:49
slaweqok, let's move on14:49
slaweq#topic On Demand Agenda14:49
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slaweqthere is one topic here for today14:49
slaweqFeedback on Freenode situation http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-May/022675.html14:49
slaweqgmann asked about feedback from various teams about what we would like to do14:50
obondarevgoogle hangouts :D14:50
bcafarelah yes, quite the hot topic since last week14:50
slaweqin the etherpad https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/feedback-on-freenode there are basically 2 options possible14:50
slaweqOption1: Ok with the TC's approach of "let's wait more and monitor the situation to make any decision."14:50
slaweqOption2: We want to move away from Freenode right now.14:50
gmannslaweq: thanks for bringing it14:50
slaweqbtw. I hope all of You are aware about what is the problem with freenode now, right?14:51
slaweqgmann: yw :)14:51
ralonsohyeah14:51
lajoskatonayeah14:51
ralonsohIMO, option 2 and swap to another IRC14:51
slaweqso I wanted to ask You about Your opinion on that14:51
slaweqso I we update that etherpad14:51
slaweq*so We can update14:52
gmannnote, we do not have any finalized platform/network yet14:52
* obondarev votes for opt 114:52
gmannin option1 we are not saying we will stay at freenode but we will wait and see the situation more and then decide14:53
lajoskatona+1 on Opt. 1, (the hesitant guy)14:53
bcafarelinitially I was for option1 (aka we can wait), but some examples of the "new management" + seeing many projects and users already moved changed my mind14:53
slaweqmaybe I will ask a bit different question - do we have anyone who considers to stop using freenode and current neutron channel until it will not move out from freenode?14:53
amotokiI tend to vote for opt 1. From dev perspective, switching to another irc would not impact so much. we can compare more options and get avoid confusion.14:53
ralonsohslaweq, no, not stop using neutron channel14:54
ralonsohbut not deferring the change14:54
slaweqralonsoh: I was asking about if there is anyone who will simply say "I'm not going to use freenode so I will not be available on irc anymore, unless You will move to other server"14:55
mlavalleI also say option 114:55
slaweqif there are people who consider that, I will personally vote for option 2, otherwise I'm also for option 1 :)14:55
mlavallewe are not saying not move if we take option 1. we are saying let's find more14:56
mlavallefacts14:56
mlavalleand see how the situation evolves14:56
gmannexactly14:57
bcafarelI just hope end decision will be global to openstack (fragmentation--) I know devs/users on other opensource projets went that way (not going to use freenode either again), but I don't know for openstack and neutron specifically14:57
obondarevI just don't want to move 1 times :)14:57
obondarev2 times *14:57
lajoskatona+114:57
amotoki+114:57
slaweqok, so to summarize, neutron team is for option 1, let's wait a bit more and see how it will goes14:57
manubk+1 for option 114:57
mlavalle+114:57
haleyb+1 to avoid fragmentation, option 1 is fine assuming that14:58
slaweqI will update etherpad right now :)14:58
slaweqthx for all feedback there14:58
mlavalleand yeah, if we move, all openstack should move in one step14:58
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mlavallenot fragmented14:58
slaweqthat's all what I had for today14:59
slaweqand I think we can finish the meeting for today14:59
slaweqthx a lot for attending and great discussion15:00
mlavalleoh, we get 1 minute back \o/15:00
slaweqhave a great week :)15:00
slaweqmlavalle: sure :D15:00
ralonsohbye15:00
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slaweq#endmeeting15:00
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bcafarel1 minute back, that's a lot less than usual :p15:00
slaweq#startmeeting neutron_ci15:02
openstackMeeting started Tue May 25 15:02:01 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci'15:02
slaweqwelcome (again) :)15:02
bcafarelo/ again15:02
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slaweqFirst of all Grafana dashboard: http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate15:02
slaweqplease open and we can move on15:02
ralonsohhi15:02
slaweqwe don't have any action items from last week15:03
slaweqso let's skip that topic today15:03
slaweq#topic Stadium projects15:03
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slaweqlajoskatona: any updates about stadium ci?15:03
lajoskatonanot much, only the ovs changes15:03
lajoskatonaI mean the ones to use ovs explicitly15:03
slaweqthose should be approved quickly I hope15:03
slaweqok, so let's quickly move to the next topic than15:04
slaweq#topic Stadium projects15:05
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slaweqbcafarel: any updates/issues with stable branches?15:05
bcafarelall good from what I checked :)15:05
bcafarel(beware I still have a few unread emails, but so far so good)15:06
slaweqonly good news so far :)15:06
slaweqthat's great meeting15:06
slaweqthank You15:06
slaweqso let's move on to the next topic15:06
slaweq#topic Grafana15:06
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slaweqfrom graphs I think that neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full job is not set to ovs explicitly15:07
slaweqand is now running with ML2/ovn15:07
slaweqas its failure rate is going up in exactly same way as neutron-tempest-plugin-api job :)15:08
obondarev:D15:08
bcafarelparent: tempest-multinode-full-py3 sounds like it yes15:08
slaweqobondarev: it's Your favorite job, can You check it? :)15:08
obondarevslaweq, I will :)15:09
slaweqthx a lot15:09
obondarevsure15:09
slaweq#action obondarev to check neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full and switch it to ML2/OVS15:09
slaweqalso neutron-rally-task job is in same situation15:09
slaweqbut there is patch https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/791365 for that already15:10
slaweqbut we will need neutron-tempest-plugin fix first15:10
slaweqand functional tests fix from ralonsoh15:10
slaweqthat are all issues which I see on the grafana currently15:11
slaweqanything else You want to highlight maybe?15:12
slaweqok, let's move on15:13
slaweq#topic fullstack/functional15:13
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slaweqI found only one new issue related to functional jobs15:13
slaweq https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/192951815:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1929518 in neutron "Functional db migration tests broken" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez)15:13
slaweqand ralonsoh already took care of it15:14
slaweqthx ralonsoh15:14
ralonsohyw15:14
slaweqbut now I think that we will need to combine it with https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/79136515:15
slaweqotherwise it will never pass gate :/15:15
slaweqso we should:15:15
slaweq1. merge fix for neutron-tempest-plugin-api job https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/79125515:16
slaweq2. combine https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/792945 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/791365 into one patch15:16
slaweqand then we should be good15:16
slaweqor am I missing something here?15:16
bcafarelsounds right yes15:16
ralonsohI vote for 115:17
ralonsohthat should solve neutron ci too15:17
slaweqralonsoh: it's not two possibilities to choose15:17
ralonsohright?15:17
ralonsohI though that solved neutron CI too15:17
slaweqit's like action items to do and order of them :)15:17
ralonsohmy bad15:17
slaweqnp :)15:18
slaweqobondarev: lajoskatona can You maybe check https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/791255 ?15:18
slaweqand approve it hopefully15:18
ralonsohwe can update https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/791365 then15:18
slaweqso that will be in the gate already15:18
ralonsohI'll abandon my patch15:18
slaweqralonsoh: as You want, You can also update Your patch and we can abandon mine :)15:19
ralonsohdon't worry, I'll update yours in a couple of mins15:19
slaweqthx a lot15:19
obondarevslaweq, ralonsoh, is it correct that alternative to https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/791255 is to switch job API job to OVS?15:20
ralonsohyes15:20
slaweqobondarev: yes15:20
slaweqactually I even had such patch proposed but I abandoned it15:20
ralonsohthere is an abandoned patch15:20
ralonsohright15:20
slaweqas ralonsoh convinced me to go with his approach :)15:20
obondarevso that could avoid test skip, right?15:20
ralonsohyes15:20
ralonsohbut, to be honest, the scope of this test is reduced15:21
obondarevso why not? :)15:21
slaweqthere is only one test skipped and it should be soon available on ovn backend too15:21
ralonsohbecause OVS is already tested, this feature is not frequently used and it will be integrated in OVN soon15:21
obondarevok let me check, can continue meanwhile15:22
ralonsohI prefer to check OVN. This feature has not received patches in a long time15:22
lajoskatonaSo wait with https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/791255 ?15:23
obondarevactually no, I just approved it15:24
obondarev:)15:24
bcafarel:)15:24
slaweqthx :)15:24
lajoskatonaok15:24
slaweqok, next topic then15:24
slaweq#topic Tempest/Scenario15:24
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slaweqI found one new (for me at least) issue recently15:24
slaweqhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/192952315:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1929523 in neutron "Test tempest.scenario.test_network_basic_ops.TestNetworkBasicOps.test_subnet_details is failing from time to time" [High,Confirmed]15:25
slaweqand failure examples15:25
slaweq    https://fc42fc060b9d19761c9e-19b00ab3af46f59a1799d97d7ae09a21.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/783748/4/gate/neutron-ovn-tempest-slow/9dbdc07/testr_results.html15:25
slaweq    https://storage.gra.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_567/785895/1/gate/neutron-tempest-slow-py3/567fc7f/testr_results.html15:25
slaweqdid You saw it already maybe?15:25
slaweqor anyone have cycles to check that?15:26
ralonsohI think there is a patch from Candido15:26
ralonsohlet me check15:26
ralonsohhttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tempest/+/77975615:27
slaweqso it didn't help :/15:27
slaweqas it was merged 2 weeks ago15:27
slaweqand failures which I saw were from this week15:27
ralonsohI'll ping him again, but I remember testing with him this patch15:28
ralonsohand was quite solit15:28
ralonsohsolid*15:28
slaweqmaybe it's a bit different issue?15:28
ralonsohI don't think so, what we test is the content of resolv.conf15:29
slaweqin this case retrieved dns list is empty15:29
slaweqtesttools.matchers._impl.MismatchError: {'1.2.3.4'} != set(): Looking for servers: ['1.2.3.4']. Retrieved DNS nameservers: [] From host: 172.24.5.177.15:29
ralonsohhmmm maybe the host needs a bit of time15:29
slaweqand in Candido's patch description the issue was that additinal server was included15:29
ralonsohok, I'll ping him15:30
slaweqthx a lot15:30
slaweq#action ralonsoh to talk with ccamposr about issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/192952315:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1929523 in neutron "Test tempest.scenario.test_network_basic_ops.TestNetworkBasicOps.test_subnet_details is failing from time to time" [High,Confirmed]15:31
slaweqand that was all what I had for today :)15:32
slaweqperiodic jobs are running fine15:32
slaweqdo You have anything else to discuss today?15:32
slaweqor if not, I will give You 28 minutes back15:32
bcafarelnothing from me :)15:33
ralonsohno thanks15:33
obondarevnope15:33
slaweqok, thx for attending the meeting today15:34
slaweqsee You all online :)15:34
slaweqo/15:34
bcafarelo/15:34
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slaweq#endmeeting15:34
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gibi#startmeeting nova16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue May 25 16:00:09 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'16:00
stephenfino/16:00
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gibi\o16:00
bauzas\o16:00
gibilets soo how many of us got the memo :)16:00
gibi/soo/see16:00
gmanno/16:00
elodo/16:01
gibi#topic Bugs (stuck/critical)16:01
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gibino critical bug16:01
gibi#link 9 new untriaged bugs (-3 since the last meeting): #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New16:01
gibis/-3/+1/ sorry i forget to update that number16:02
gibistill we are pretty OK regarding the triage backlog16:02
gibiis there any specific bug we need to talk about today?16:02
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gibi#topic Gate status16:03
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gibiWe have one gate issue reported by lyarwood #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/192944616:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1929446 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "check_can_live_migrate_source taking > 60 seconds in CI" [Undecided,New]16:04
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* gibi haven't looked into it yet16:04
sean-k-mooneyok so that could be just a slow node?16:05
sean-k-mooneybut we might also need to consider should it use teh long rpc timeout16:05
gibiI don't know how frequent it is and lyarwood is not around16:05
gibianyhow if somebody has time to check it a bit deeper then talk to Lee about it16:06
bauzasgood luck for finding the reason16:06
sean-k-mooneyif the agent is pasueing16:07
sean-k-mooneyit could be doe to an internal lock like the libvirt proxy issue we had before16:07
dansmitho/16:07
sean-k-mooneybut ya it wont be striat forward to see why it stoped for ~82 seconds16:08
gibiwould be nice to see how frequently we are hittig this issue. If it is infrequent then I might ignore it :)16:09
dansmithmaking that a long call rpc is just going to hide why that is happening,16:09
dansmithand if it shouldn't, I'm not sure that's good16:09
dansmithmaybe it makes a blocking libvirt call?16:09
gibidansmith: and also it is still tight to the sync API response16:09
sean-k-mooneydansmith: that is what i was wondering regardign the libvirt proxy apis16:10
dansmithah, well, in that case definitely not16:10
dansmithsean-k-mooney: yeah I think there are some cases where libvirt can get hung up and then we block, IIRC16:10
sean-k-mooneythere were i think we fixed the ones we knew of but there could be others16:10
dansmithright, I mean.. bugs.16:10
sean-k-mooneyim not sure how to sech for this in kibana though16:11
dansmithprobably don't need to hold up the meeting for this tho16:11
sean-k-mooneytrue16:11
gibiOK, moving on16:11
gibiPlacement periodic job status #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fplacement&pipeline=periodic-weekly16:11
gibithey are green16:11
gibiis there any other gate issue we need to talk about?16:12
gibioh one more thing. the default ovs->ovn switch in devstack has been merged again16:13
gibihttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/79143616:13
gibiso we might see failure16:13
gibias far as I know neutron got hit by it16:13
gibiif no other gate issue then16:14
gibi#topic Release Planning16:14
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gibiToday is a spec review day. I see good progress on the spec reviews. Keep it coming!16:14
gibiwe have M1 on Thursday. I think the only work we have is to approve the lib release patches if any16:15
gibiany othe release related topic?16:15
gmannI am still composing spec for POST servers on host, should be ready after 1 hr or so.16:15
sean-k-mooneygmann: ack16:16
gibigmann: ack, no worries, we only do spec freeze at M216:16
gmannyeah just to get the review flow in spec day :)16:16
sean-k-mooneyand we do not have a propsal freeze anymore16:16
gibi:)16:16
gibi#topic Stable Branches16:17
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gibicopyying elod's summary16:17
gibistable/train branches were tagged with train-em today ( https://review.opendev.org/790761 )16:17
gibiwallaby..rocky branches gates should be OK (merged patches in rocky, train, wallaby since the last meeting)16:17
gibiqueens and pike gate not yet fixed (the devstack patch that fixed rocky's gate fails with some unit tests on queens and pike - https://review.opendev.org/791248 )16:17
gibiEOM16:17
sean-k-mooneyone thing to note16:18
elodI'll try to investigate the queens patch failure16:18
gibielod: thanks16:18
elod(and pike)16:18
sean-k-mooneyos-vifs stable gates are broken due to lower-constratins and hack/pep8 rules issues16:18
sean-k-mooneyim going to try and fix those if i can16:18
gmannelod: for unit test fix https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/79204816:18
gmannelod: this needs to be backported16:19
elodsean-k-mooney: I've fixed several like that, so if you need help... :)16:19
sean-k-mooneyelod: ill ping you if i get stuck16:19
elodgmann: oh, thanks! I'll backport it then!16:19
elodsean-k-mooney: ++16:19
elodmaybe one more thing,16:19
elodI am planning to propose (multiple) ocata-eol patches16:20
elodas nova gate is broken for ~ a year16:20
gmannelod: did, and for queens/rocky I will cap the nodeset as they should not be running on Focal there https://review.opendev.org/q/Ie002faf4c96ac7f207207a481c057b8df0289e6c16:20
elodgmann: thanks!16:21
gibianything else on stable?16:22
elodI think that's it from me16:22
gibi#topic Sub/related team Highlights16:23
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gibiLibvirt (bauzas)16:23
bauzasnothing to report, sir. Quiet period.16:23
gibithanks16:24
gibi#topic Open discussion16:24
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gibiwe have two topics16:24
gibi(artom) Follow up on the IRC meeting schedule change.16:24
gibi(I'm not sure this is not just a remainder from last week)16:24
artomDoh, forgot to take that off the wiki16:24
artomThat was for last week16:24
gibiack16:24
gibiI have one addendum16:24
gibi#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-May/022684.html16:24
gibiSam requested a chinees friendly meeting slot16:25
sean-k-mooneyrestoring the bi weeksly alternet slots or an addtional one16:26
gibiIf I chair a meeting once a month on Thurday 8:00 UTC, how many of you would join.(looking at folks from EU)16:26
gibi?16:26
gibisean-k-mooney: I think it would be an additional slot16:26
sean-k-mooneygibi: am if iwas in an NA/Aisa frindly slot i would be more likely to join :) so i doubt i will be tere unless i did not sleep well16:27
stephenfinToo early for me, I'm afraid. I'm rarely concious at that point. I could show up if explicitly requested but that would be about it16:27
stephenfinoh, wait - that's 9am during the summer16:27
stephenfinI'd be around for that (during the summer)16:28
sean-k-mooneywell for the rest of this year16:28
sean-k-mooneywe are ment to nolonger have daylight saving across europe next year right16:28
stephenfinI wouldn't count on it16:28
gmannoh is it?16:28
stephenfingibi: If it was 9:00 UTC I could reliably be there, fwiw16:29
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stephenfinbut 08:00 UTC would work until October or whenever the clocks change16:29
stephenfinlyarwood has a kid and would gladly be there at 06:00 UTC, I'm sure :P16:29
gibi:P16:29
gibibauzas: any view from you?16:30
bauzashaven't we said last week that we could have some kind of open session ?16:30
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gibibauzas: we might not repeate the todays agenda, but have just is-there-any-topic-for-today agenda point16:31
bauzashttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2021/nova.2021-05-20-16.00.log.html#l-12016:31
sean-k-mooneybauzas: were you thinking of just doing it in the nova channel rahter then a dedicated meeting room?16:31
gibican I use \#startmeeting in nova?16:32
sean-k-mooneyi think so16:32
gmannyes,16:32
dansmithI think you can16:32
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gmannwe do for QA16:32
gibicoo16:32
gibil16:32
sean-k-mooneyi have seen other channels do it16:32
dansmithtc meetings happen in -tc16:32
gmannyeah tc too16:32
bauzassean-k-mooney: yup16:32
gibibauzas: 9:00 UTC is better for you too?16:32
bauzaslike TC does https://governance.openstack.org/tc/#meeting-office-hour16:32
sean-k-mooneythat would be 17:00 in china16:33
bauzasgibi: well, I'd need to go to a school around 9.20UTC every week in the summer time16:33
sean-k-mooneyso end of day but not late16:33
bauzasbut I don't want to not accept it because of me16:33
bauzashence the office hour16:34
artomYou don't not want to refuse to not decline it?16:34
gibiOK, so you could be with us for the first 15 minutes?16:34
bauzasgibi: yup, I can16:34
gibicool16:34
bauzasartom: indeed16:34
gibithen lets try 9:00 UTC once a month, on #openstack-nova with an office hour style16:35
stephenfin(y)16:35
bauzaswhich day ?16:35
bauzasTuesdays ?16:35
gibiTueday does not work for me16:35
gibiThursday would be better16:35
bauzasand what about Mondays ?16:36
sean-k-mooneymaybe jsut do another poll16:36
gibibauzas: Monday works16:36
bauzasI'd prefer to have this kind of office hour be close to a nova meeting16:36
sean-k-mooney9am on a monday you masochist :P16:36
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bauzassean-k-mooney: ah, right16:36
stephenfina poll would probably be best16:36
gibi9:00 UTC is 11:OO CEST ;)16:37
sean-k-mooneyill be asleep most likely so dont work around me16:37
bauzaspeople need to move to France, I guess16:37
bauzasactually, I'll propose this16:37
stephenfinsince we won't capture everyone here16:37
gibiOK, I will set up a poll16:37
stephenfin(also, I've a meeting a 9:15 Mondays already so that wouldn't work)16:37
bauzas(joking, just in case people think about it :p )16:37
gibimoving on as we have another topic16:37
bauzasanother meeting, yay \o/16:37
gibi(gmann) Nova feedback on Freenode situation16:38
gibi    http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-May/022675.html16:38
sean-k-mooneythe only thing ill say is if you want to avoid bank holidays mid week is best and not the first week in the month16:38
bauzassean-k-mooney: that depends on the country ;)16:38
gmannon Freenode discussion, this is etherpad to provide nova option #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/feedback-on-freenode16:38
bauzasI've seen this etherpad :(16:39
dansmithto be clear, some projects want to leave freenode right now, without letting the current situation settle or have our infra in place on another network16:39
gmannthis is to get feedback from project for TC to decide the next step16:39
dansmithI'm hoping nova will vote to just "wait and see" for the moment16:39
bauzaslooks like someone advocated16:39
bauzasdansmith: +1000 for me16:39
gmannI too vote for "wait and see"16:39
bauzaswe can vote16:39
bauzas#startvote there it goes :p16:40
openstackOnly the meeting chair may start a vote.16:40
gibi#help startvote16:40
sean-k-mooneywell its more come to a concenus16:40
dansmithdo we need a formal vote?16:40
gibiI don't think so16:40
bauzasnah, was kidding16:40
dansmithif we do, then fine, but if nobody objects to wait-and-see ...16:40
gibiI have no hard opinion. freenode still works for me16:40
gmannyeah, not needed as such16:40
dansmithcool16:40
bauzasdo people have other concerns ?16:41
gibiplease object loudly if you want to move now16:41
bauzasyup16:41
sean-k-mooneyi think if the majroity start moving we shoudl16:41
bauzaswho ?16:41
gibias far as I understand infra is preparing for the move even if we chose to wait16:41
sean-k-mooneyto not split thing but im already conented to both upstream and downstream irc networks16:41
bauzasI only saw *some* folks wanting to move16:41
sean-k-mooneyso havign a third is not realy a big deal to me16:41
bauzasbut I'm not sure we have consensus on moving16:41
dansmithsean-k-mooney: I think we should only move if the TC and infra people decide to move en masse16:41
gibi++16:42
sean-k-mooneydansmith: that would be my preference also16:42
bauzastotally agreed16:42
stephenfinyeah, my only concern is that if other (significant) projects did start moving, I'd like to go with16:42
dansmiththe question at the moment is which projects are going to leave without waiting or coordinating16:42
stephenfinotherwise, I don't care16:42
bauzaslooks the ship sailed for some of them16:42
sean-k-mooneytehre have been stament made by some that they will stop using irc for contibutig if we do not move by the end of the week16:42
sean-k-mooneyi will miss them but im not inclidned to move as a result of such statements16:42
bauzaswell16:42
stephenfinnot the best way to get people on-board, that :)16:43
bauzasI understand why people would want to move, but they also need to think about other contributors16:43
bauzasand at least we would need to continue using Freenode for a lot of time16:43
dansmithstephenfin: or even.. the right way to ensure they're *not* on board :)16:43
gibiit seem ironic and kolla would like to move16:43
gibimove now16:43
stephenfintouché16:43
bauzasjust in case some contributors don't see emails16:43
sean-k-mooneywhat i might suggest is we start keeping the oftc nova channle open for now but keep freenode as our main channel until it plays out in the TC16:44
stephenfingibi: I assume you need to give a vote on behalf of everyone?16:44
stephenfinas PTL16:44
gibiyes16:44
bauzassean-k-mooney: please, no16:44
gibibased on the above discussion it is Option 1 for nova.16:44
dansmithsean-k-mooney: I think we should avoid that.. infra is holding the channel16:44
gibiand I will add that to the etherpad16:44
bauzassean-k-mooney: we need one single channel and we need to redirect folks to the official channel16:44
dansmithgibi: thanks!16:44
stephenfinwfm16:44
gmannsean-k-mooney: yeah that create confusion16:45
sean-k-mooneydansmith: ok16:45
gmanngibi: +116:45
sean-k-mooneybauzas: well i was suggstign redirecting them to freenode for now16:45
gmannthanks. gibi can you please add it to etherpad too.16:45
gibigmann: I will16:45
gmannah you mentioend that16:45
bauzassean-k-mooney: I don't see the need16:45
gmannthanks16:45
bauzassean-k-mooney: nothing changes16:45
sean-k-mooneybauzas: i guess empty channel speaks for its self16:45
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bauzasbut then, two people could discuss16:46
bauzasand that's how you split a community16:46
sean-k-mooneydansmith: do you know if infra has set the topic on those chanels to somehthin glike project X currenlty uses freenode16:46
dansmithsean-k-mooney: no, but they're working on making their bots even work over there, so that would be a good first thing when they're ready16:46
sean-k-mooneyok cool16:47
dansmithI don't think they even have a way to delegate ops because their bots need to be modified to work with OTFC's nickserv, etc as I understand it16:47
gibiis there anything else for today/16:48
gibi?16:48
gmannnothing from me.16:48
sean-k-mooneynot form me16:49
gibithen thanks for joining16:49
gibi\o16:49
gibi#endmeeting16:49
stephenfinta16:49
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