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| ttx | o/ | 15:00 |
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| ttx | #startmeeting large_scale_sig | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Wed Jun 2 15:00:44 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'large_scale_sig' | 15:00 |
| ttx | #topic Rollcall | 15:00 |
| belmoreira | o/ | 15:01 |
| genekuo | o/ | 15:01 |
| ttx | Alright, who is here on OFTC for the Large Scale SIG meeting ? | 15:01 |
| rbudden | hello | 15:01 |
| ttx | hello! | 15:01 |
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| ttx | let me ping amorin real quick | 15:02 |
| belmoreira | I see him on freenode | 15:03 |
| ttx | he is here too | 15:03 |
| ttx | belmoreira: maybe redirect people from freenode if you lurk there? | 15:03 |
| belmoreira | sure | 15:03 |
| ttx | OK let's get started... | 15:03 |
| ttx | Our agenda for today is at: | 15:03 |
| ttx | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/large-scale-sig-meeting | 15:04 |
| ttx | ping imtiazc | 15:04 |
| ttx | #topic Next OpenInfra Live show | 15:04 |
| ttx | So... We ran our first OpenInfra Live show a few weeks ago and it was a great success | 15:04 |
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| ttx | More attendees than usual thanks to the promotion and openinfra branding | 15:04 |
| ttx | That said we were a bit ambitious in terms of how much content we would fit vs. discussion | 15:05 |
| imtiazc | I'm here | 15:05 |
| ttx | So we've been discussing doing a part two, to continue the discussion | 15:05 |
| ttx | Does that sound like a good idea? It would feature the same speakers as a continuation discussion | 15:05 |
| belmoreira | sounds good to me | 15:06 |
| genekuo | I agree with continuing the discussion | 15:06 |
| genekuo | We don't have much discussion time last time IIRC | 15:06 |
| imtiazc | I think that plan sounds reasonable | 15:06 |
| ttx | I ran a poll to check for availability from same speakers and it appears that everyone is available on june 10 | 15:07 |
| ttx | that slot could be freed for us as the currently-programmed show was cancelled | 15:07 |
| ttx | It's just 8 days from now but we don;t need to prepare much | 15:07 |
| ttx | there will be no decks, although we should probably have an etherpad with suggested panel questions | 15:08 |
| ttx | or probably some GDoc | 15:09 |
| genekuo | Agree with collecting the questions in etherpad | 15:09 |
| ttx | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/oil-upgrades-part-deux | 15:09 |
| belmoreira | The questions should be open to everyone | 15:09 |
| belmoreira | and it would be great if it's part of the promotion process | 15:10 |
| belmoreira | if people write a question, they are already committed to watch | 15:11 |
| ttx | good idea | 15:11 |
| ttx | Might do a Google survey to avoid surprises though | 15:11 |
| ttx | I'll keep y'all posted | 15:11 |
| belmoreira | also, it would be a different way to interact with the viewers (something make sure your questions are answered...) of course we should continue to take live questions during the stream | 15:12 |
| ttx | #agreed OpenInfra Live Upgrades in Large Scale OpenStack deployments, part two to be scheduled June 10 | 15:12 |
| ttx | also will encourage people to watch the previuos show in preparation | 15:12 |
| ttx | so... excellent suggestion | 15:12 |
| ttx | #info should ask for panel questions as part of event promotion | 15:13 |
| rbudden | I’ll throw a few generic questions/ideas in the Etherpad. Feel free to reword, remove, etc. as necessary. | 15:14 |
| ttx | We had a slot originally booked for July 1st, do we want to keep taht one and discuss, say, monitoring with a different (probably smaller) set of guest speakers? | 15:14 |
| ttx | or should we push back because it's just too much? | 15:14 |
| belmoreira | also, is there a place to make the slides available? we will get this question :) in my opinion the openinfra live webpage should aggregate them per show | 15:14 |
| ttx | belmoreira: I'll pass on that suggestion. At the very least they should be linked from the YouTube page | 15:15 |
| ttx | #info suggestion: add a place for slides (on openinfra.live or on the YouTube video comments) | 15:15 |
| mdelavergne | Yep, in the video comment, besides the names of the speakers sounds like a good idea | 15:16 |
| mdelavergne | (speakers or timestamps) | 15:16 |
| ttx | How about we push back next show from July 1st to...July 15th | 15:16 |
| ttx | gives us more time to find topic and guest speakers | 15:17 |
| rbudden | i’d consider not doing the show in 8 days, just to give extra time to poll for questions, content, etc. | 15:17 |
| rbudden | allow ppl to find and populate the etherpad | 15:17 |
| ttx | rbudden: yeah the trick is that we need to balance program openings vs. not waiting too long between part 1 and 2 | 15:18 |
| ttx | (and speaker availability) | 15:18 |
| rbudden | true | 15:18 |
| ttx | it's short but we can pull it off | 15:18 |
| ttx | waiting too long also demotivates people | 15:18 |
| ttx | Should start the promotion today/tomorrow though | 15:18 |
| ttx | they will mention it during tomorrow's show | 15:19 |
| ttx | Thoughts on the show after that? Date and topic? | 15:19 |
| genekuo | I remember there is one potential topic about running OpenStack ontop of itself | 15:20 |
| belmoreira | 1 or 15th is OK for me. The 15th gives more time to iterate in this topic | 15:21 |
| ttx | Imtiaz is not available on the 1st, so let's commit to taking July 15 | 15:21 |
| genekuo | I can talk a little about that as we're running our control plane ontop of it | 15:21 |
| ttx | genekuo: yes, that's one option, belmoreira talking about inception | 15:21 |
| ttx | "sounds scary but it actually works pretty well" | 15:22 |
| genekuo | Inception - Run your OpenStack control plane on top of the infrastructure that it manages | 15:22 |
| genekuo | Yep | 15:22 |
| belmoreira | another interesting topic it would be discuss how the different deployment deal with spare capacity | 15:22 |
| rbudden | i’ve done that as well, ran one openstack cloud on top of an openstack ironic setup | 15:22 |
| ttx | #info next OILive after June 10 would by July 15 | 15:23 |
| ttx | #info Proposed topic: running openstack on top of itself | 15:23 |
| belmoreira | and have another panel discussion | 15:23 |
| ttx | We'll try to avoid making the same mistake, and limiting guest speakers to 3-4 instead of 6 :) | 15:23 |
| ttx | giving priority to those who haven't been on the show of course | 15:24 |
| ttx | I'm also happy to let someone emcee the show more directly, since my added value is limited | 15:24 |
| ttx | so it could end up being "Belmiro and friends" for example | 15:24 |
| genekuo | :) | 15:25 |
| ttx | but we have time to figure that out | 15:25 |
| ttx | OK anything else on that topic? | 15:25 |
| belmoreira | how about we continue to use the etherpad to set ideas for the next topic | 15:25 |
| ttx | ++ | 15:26 |
| ttx | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/large-scale-sig-lightning-talks | 15:26 |
| ttx | badly named | 15:26 |
| belmoreira | shows how it started :) | 15:27 |
| ttx | alright, moving on | 15:27 |
| ttx | #topic Progress/Blockers | 15:27 |
| ttx | * Stage 1 - Configure (amorin) | 15:27 |
| ttx | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Large_Scale_SIG/Configure | 15:27 |
| ttx | amorin is not around, but I don;t think there was much progress there | 15:27 |
| ttx | * Stage 2 - Monitor (genekuo) | 15:27 |
| ttx | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Large_Scale_SIG/Monitor | 15:27 |
| genekuo | Not much update on Wiki page | 15:28 |
| ttx | Sounds like oslo.messaging changes are ready to go in? | 15:28 |
| ttx | (for oslo.metrics support) | 15:28 |
| ttx | just needs another oslo.messaging core to chime in | 15:28 |
| genekuo | Got a +2, still waiting for another +2 and +1 workflow | 15:28 |
| genekuo | yep | 15:28 |
| ttx | I'll see with hberaud if he can get someone else to review it | 15:28 |
| genekuo | I also got an email from a user that they are trying to test it | 15:28 |
| ttx | nice! | 15:29 |
| ttx | would be great to have another angle of feedback on it | 15:29 |
| ttx | * Stage 3 - Scale Up (ttx) | 15:30 |
| ttx | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Large_Scale_SIG/ScaleUp | 15:30 |
| ttx | Nothing new here... | 15:30 |
| ttx | # Stage 4/5 - Scale Out, upgrade & maintain (belmoreira) | 15:30 |
| ttx | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Large_Scale_SIG/ScaleOut | 15:30 |
| ttx | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Large_Scale_SIG/UpgradeAndMaintain | 15:30 |
| belmoreira | nothing changed | 15:30 |
| ttx | Maybe after part two we'll have some common insights we can distill into the upgrades Q&a | 15:31 |
| belmoreira | ++ | 15:31 |
| ttx | I'm fine with the scaling journey taking the backseat as we occupy the internets with a live show on large scale infra powered by openstack, really | 15:31 |
| ttx | It's a great opportunity for un in 2021 | 15:32 |
| ttx | us | 15:32 |
| ttx | ok, moving on... | 15:32 |
| ttx | #info Next meeting(s) | 15:32 |
| ttx | So given our previous discussion, I propose... | 15:32 |
| ttx | - June 10: OILive | 15:33 |
| ttx | - June 23: IRC meeting | 15:33 |
| ttx | - July 7: IRC meeting | 15:33 |
| ttx | - July 15: OILive | 15:33 |
| genekuo | LGTM | 15:33 |
| ttx | I'll update the bot so that http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Large_Scale_SIG_Meeting is correct | 15:33 |
| ttx | I like to have a IRC meeting the week before the show rather than two weeks before | 15:34 |
| belmoreira | yes, makes sense | 15:34 |
| ttx | Alright that is all I had on the agenda... was there anything else to discuss? | 15:34 |
| ttx | I'll be following up with Arnaud, Imtiaz, Belmiro, Mohammed, Chris and Joshua for next week show | 15:35 |
| genekuo | I see belmoreira added some topics in open discussion part | 15:35 |
| ttx | making sure we collect questions as part of the promotion | 15:35 |
| ttx | hah! | 15:35 |
| ttx | sharp eyes | 15:35 |
| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 15:36 |
| ttx | belmoreira: fire away | 15:36 |
| belmoreira | so... the openstack-operators shown some activity this week | 15:36 |
| belmoreira | it would be great to revive this group for operators to have an easy and informal way to communicate and share questions/issues... | 15:37 |
| ttx | cool! we could move this meeting there | 15:37 |
| ttx | agree | 15:37 |
| genekuo | agree | 15:38 |
| ttx | I'll update the bot so that it points there | 15:38 |
| belmoreira | that was my question... having the meeting there it will support the group and for operators is the common place to hangout | 15:38 |
| rbudden | agreed. one question i was going to ask was where the large scale sig member lurk/hang out online | 15:38 |
| ttx | and we can have our next IRC meeting on #openstack-operators | 15:38 |
| ttx | #agreed move large scale SIG meeting to #openstack-operators channel | 15:39 |
| belmoreira | cool | 15:39 |
| ttx | #action ttx to update eavesdrop to reflect new time and location for large scale SIG IRC meeting | 15:39 |
| ttx | alright, any other question/topic? | 15:40 |
| ttx | if not, thanks everyone for joining us here on OFTC! | 15:41 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 15:41 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Wed Jun 2 15:41:07 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:41 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2021/large_scale_sig.2021-06-02-15.00.html | 15:41 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2021/large_scale_sig.2021-06-02-15.00.txt | 15:41 |
| opendevmeet | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2021/large_scale_sig.2021-06-02-15.00.log.html | 15:41 |
| genekuo | Thanks! | 15:41 |
| rbudden | thanks | 15:41 |
| belmoreira | thank you | 15:41 |
| mdelavergne | thanks! | 15:41 |
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