Wednesday, 2014-11-19

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SridharRamaswamyAnyone from Tacker / ServiceVM subteam here ?17:01
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yamahatahello17:01
natarajkhi17:01
SridharRamaswamyHi Isaku17:01
yamahataI attended ML2 meeting17:01
SridharRamaswamyHi Karthik17:01
natarajkHi Sridhar, Isaku17:01
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SridharRamaswamyyamahata: is that ML2 mtg clash w/ this mtg ?17:02
yamahataSridharRamaswamy: no it ended. no crash in theory.17:03
yamahataclash17:03
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SridarKHi17:03
yamahatait seems we have bob, but not s3wong yet17:03
bobmelright, but one has to master the art of context switches with these back-to-back meetings :-)17:03
yamahataSridarK: Hi17:04
SridarKbomel: :-)17:04
bobmelHi all17:04
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SridarKyamahata: hi17:04
SridharRamaswamythis seems to be a popular mtg slot indeed!17:04
s3wonghello, sorry, a bit late17:04
yamahatas3wong: hi. Let's start17:04
yamahata#startmeeting servicevm-device-manager17:04
openstackMeeting started Wed Nov 19 17:04:53 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is yamahata. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:04
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:04
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'servicevm_device_manager'17:04
yamahata#topic Announcement17:05
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yamahata#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceVM agenda17:05
yamahataneutron advanced service mid cycle is planned17:05
yamahata#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/advanced-services-kilo-midcycle  advsvc nid cycle17:06
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SridharRamaswamyyamahata: is the location & logistics decided yet ?17:07
yamahataneutron spec proposal deadline(SPD) and spec approval deadline(SAD) is Dec 8, Dec 1517:07
yamahataSridharRamaswamy: According to the link, it's under planning. not fixed yet.17:07
s3wongSridharRamaswamy: no, as a member of the "advanced service library" team we have NOT decided when/where the mid-cycle will be17:07
hareeshphello all, sorry a bit late to join17:07
SridharRamaswamyyamahata: s3wong: okay, thanks17:08
yamahataany other announcement?17:08
bobmelAdv. servie library... does that mean we're like librarians then?17:08
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s3wongbobmel: at this point, this is the language used in the proposal :-)17:09
SridharRamaswamyfor those following NFV subgroup .. it now renamed as TelcoWorkingGroup!17:09
bobmels3wong: I know. :-)17:09
s3wongbobmel: as you know --- we are really dissecting the language used in markmcclain's email :-)17:10
s3wongyamahata: something probably every member of the team has looked at: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-November/050961.html17:10
yamahata#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-November/050961.html neutron split proposal17:11
s3wongthe proposal of splitting out advanced services (all L4-7) from Neutron into an independent repo is sent out by markmcclain and mestery17:11
hareeshps3wong: you want to make sure everyone reads it :)17:11
yamahataTacker is already split. fotunately or unfortunately.17:12
SridharRamaswamys3wong: we are all dissecting that for sure.. particularly the "optional" part !17:12
s3wonghareeshp: TBH, I want people to respond to it on the ML --- just to get the clearest of clarity of what it really means17:12
yamahata#action everyone make sure read/respond http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-November/050961.html17:13
s3wongGuys: there is a suggestion that we should have the proposal on gerrit such that we can ALL comment on. I think we should (as a team) suggest that also (it was suggested by armax in the first place)17:13
yamahata#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134680/ Proposal for Neutron core and vendor code decomposition17:14
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yamahataarmando uploaded his proposal to gerrit.17:15
yamahataany announcement?17:16
bobmelyamahata: I updated the tacker wiki with descrition of tacker17:17
yamahatamoving on...17:17
bobmelyamahata: And SridharRamaswamy added use cases17:17
yamahatabobmel: great17:17
yamahata#topic Action Items from the last week17:17
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s3wongyes, time to go over the action items from last week :-)17:18
SridharRamaswamyI added the use-cases.. tried to pencil in target release and priority17:18
SridharRamaswamyplease review when u get a chance17:18
bobmelSridharRamaswamy: I think they look good17:19
yamahataSridharRamaswamy: So far it looks good.17:19
hareeshpSridharRamaswamy: looks good17:19
SridharRamaswamybobmel: yamahata: hareeshp: thanks!17:20
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yamahatabobmel: also fullfilled his action.17:20
yamahataBut I failed.17:20
yamahata#action yamahata to move current Tacker spec to a Google doc and share with team17:20
hareeshpi did a first cut on the tacker dependencies here servicevm/dependencies17:20
bobmelyamahata: You're forgiven :-)17:21
s3wonghareeshp: in fact, you did it right after the last meeting --- talk about efficiency :-)17:21
yamahatabobmel: :-)17:21
hareeshps3wong: i have a tendency to forget :)17:21
yamahataany other items left?17:22
hareeshpif any of find, anything was missed (now or future), please let me know and i will update17:22
hareeshpthis things move very fast17:22
s3wongbobmel, SridharRamaswamy: the wiki page looks very informative now. Thanks, guys!17:22
yamahataYeah, very useful now.17:23
SridharRamaswamyyeah, i like the Mission & Scope17:23
SridharRamaswamybtw.. any more wiki-gardening or are we done..17:23
hareeshp+117:23
SridharRamaswamythe bottom half of the page has lots of links..17:23
hareeshpi can take a first cut at arranging some of that17:24
yamahatahareeshp: cool.17:24
yamahata#action hareeshp more wiki-gardening17:24
SridharRamaswamyhareeshp: great, that will be help17:24
s3wongSridharRamaswamy, and other new team members: you may want to update the incubation page with your names on it: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ServiceVM/Incubation17:25
SridharRamaswamys3wong: sure, will do17:25
yamahata#action SridharRamaswamy add name to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ServiceVM/Incubation17:27
yamahataany items?17:27
yamahatamove on17:27
yamahata#topic spec/code review17:27
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yamahataI created a page of review tracking following ML2 style.17:28
yamahata#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Tracking_ServiceVM_Reviews review tracking wiki17:28
yamahataand added the link from the project page.17:28
yamahataI hope it helps review17:28
yamahataI'm open of tracking page.17:29
yamahataI just followed ML2 and use wiki. but others may want to use etherpad or something else.17:29
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SridharRamaswamyyamahata: wiki is fine, i'll help as much to review some of these17:30
yamahataanyway we can revise the use of wiki after some experiment period.17:31
yamahatado we have special review topic?17:31
s3wongyamahata: I thought we still want to finalize on the workflow?17:31
SridharRamaswamy IMO the next significant milestone is to identify the boundary between plugin & tacker API. There was some confusion how / where this boundary lies.  17:32
hareeshpanyone knows how this nfv.russelbryant.net is setup? looks cool17:32
yamahatas3wong: Oh sure.17:32
hareeshpgood way of tracking patches17:32
s3wonghareeshp: well, russellb has russelbryant.net domain, it is just a matter on adding sub-domain for his own domain17:33
s3wonghareeshp: just like you can easily have hareeshputhalath.net also :-) and you can then set up tacker.hareeshputhalath.net :-)17:34
yamahataSridharRamaswamy: Do you have any documentation to start with?17:34
hareeshpya, i meant the way he can selectively track patches17:34
hareeshps3wong : ;)17:34
s3wonghareeshp: I believe that is setting up filters on gerrit17:35
SridharRamaswamyhareeshp: i believe the NFVImpact tag is used to scrub gerritt17:35
yamahataat this point, api spec. (which I'll convert to google doc tomorrow. top priority)17:35
s3wonghareeshp: during the NFV meeting, they talked about adding a tag on all NFV related gerrit reviews17:35
s3wongyamahata: yes, that would be a good platform to start the workflow discussion :-)17:35
SridharRamaswamys3wong: yamahata: after the google doc .. lets plan for a webex conf call17:36
yamahataSridharRamaswamy: +1 for webex17:37
s3wongSridharRamaswamy: sure --- assuming the current spec isn't perfect already :-)17:37
natarajk+117:37
yamahata#agreed plan webex meeting after the google doc spec17:37
SridharRamaswamys3wong: i'm sure it is :) .. atleast the call will help the newbies like me to come upto speed ;)17:38
hareeshp+117:38
vishwanathj+117:38
s3wongSridharRamaswamy, yamahata: once the GDoc is out, we can give it a week or so for team-members to comment on it; then we should have the webex session to discuss17:39
yamahatas3wong: +117:39
s3wongnext week being Thanksgiving week for US team-members, I think it is perfect... NOT :-)17:39
SridharRamaswamys3wong: +1, make sense17:40
yamahata#action yamahata once converted api spec, announce it17:40
yamahatas3wong: +117:40
yamahatawe can poll webex schedule17:40
s3wongyamahata: +117:40
yamahata#action yamahata create poll page for webex meeting17:41
SridharRamaswamyyamahata: +117:41
SridharRamaswamyCisco friends can help to schedule one ?17:41
hareeshpyes, i can do that17:41
SridharRamaswamyi really miss webex after moving :(17:42
hareeshponce the day and time is set, just let me know17:42
s3wongSridharRamaswamy: yeah, please don't let yamahata do it -- I have a meeting with Intel folks once and they used SilverLight, what a disaster :-)17:42
SridharRamaswamys3wong: SilverLight ? SridharRamaswamy running away for a mile17:43
yamahatas3wong: +1. We all have troubles with SilverLight...17:43
s3wonganything else to discuss?17:45
yamahata#topic Open Discussion17:45
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hareeshpyamahata: well, may be better than lotus sametime17:45
* yamahata googling lotus sametime...17:46
bobmelyamahata: the router vm plugin + agent,17:46
bobmeldo you think that will get into kilo?17:46
yamahatabobmel: I'd like to. I expect the possibility is low.17:47
SridharRamaswamybobmel: can u provide a link for that effort ?17:47
SridharRamaswamyis it #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105078/ ?17:47
yamahatagiven the focus of Kilo is to pay tech debt17:47
bobmelyamahata: will it be separate from mcafee router plugin?17:47
yamahatabobmel: Yes. They are separated.17:48
yamahataSridharRamaswamy: Yes.17:49
yamahata#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105078/ L3 router: modular l3 router plugin, l3 plugin/agent for routervm17:49
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yamahataany other questions? topic?17:50
yamahataseems none.17:52
s3wongfor the US folks, do you guys still want to have a meeting next week?17:52
s3wongit is a day before Thanksgiving holiday17:52
s3wongI will be in office, so I am OK to meet --- just want to know if the rest of the US team-members have other plans17:53
SridharRamaswamyi'm okay to meet17:53
yamahataI'm fine with either way17:53
yamahataI create schedule poll page17:53
yamahatahttp://doodle.com/c4dbdpp7cnsiuu4k17:53
s3wongcool17:53
yamahataI just used time slot UTC170017:54
yamahataBut not sure which time slot is preferable. If you have another time slot prefered, please ping me.17:54
yamahatathen I'll add the time slot17:54
yamahata#link http://doodle.com/c4dbdpp7cnsiuu4k schedule poll for webex meeting17:55
yamahatas3wong: how about you? do you want to have meeting next week or not?17:55
s3wongyamahata: I am good. Let's have a meeting next week17:56
yamahatas3wong: okay ,no objection to meet next week.17:56
yamahataany other topic?17:56
yamahatathank you everyone.17:57
yamahatasee you next week17:57
s3wongthanks!17:57
vishwanathjthanks and see you all next week17:57
hareeshpok, bye17:57
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yamahata#endmeeting17:58
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SridharRamaswamybye all!17:58
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