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nikhil_k#startmeeting Glance14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Dec  4 14:00:45 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is nikhil_k. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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ativelkovo/14:00
nikhil_kroll call14:00
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nikhil_k#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:02
jokke_o/14:02
nikhil_k#topic updates14:02
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nikhil_kwe got confirmation about having the glance mid-cycle meet up alongside Nova14:02
nikhil_kWas just curious how many want a 3 day meetup?14:03
nikhil_kelse will propose to keep Tues and Wed14:03
jokke_are we fully overlapping with Nova?14:03
nikhil_ki.e Jan 27, 2814:03
mclarenFor me two days sounds like plenty14:03
nikhil_kin a separate room, parallel to nova sessions14:04
ativelkovIt depends on the number of topics we have to discuss, but 2 days should be probably enough14:04
lakshmiS2 days was good last time14:04
rosmaita+1 to 2 days14:04
nikhil_kcool - Jan 27, 28 (Tues/Wed) it is, then!14:04
jokke_+114:04
nikhil_kwill sync with Nova ptl and schedule common sessions14:05
nikhil_k#action nikhil_k : sync with Nova ptl and schedule common sessions14:05
nikhil_knext14:05
nikhil_k#topic BP for tracking (besides creating a spec)14:06
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jokke_nikhil_k: quick one ... is it still @ VMWare Palo-Alto?14:06
nikhil_kthink most of us have probably got familiar with this by now14:06
nikhil_kyes, to confim14:06
jokke_yes14:06
nikhil_k#info Glance kilo mid-cycle meetup to be at VMware office in Palo Alto on Jan 27, 28 (tentatively)14:07
nikhil_kabout the BP creation - there may be confusion that spec auto creates a BP14:07
nikhil_kthat is not the case as lp api does not support creating a blueprint14:07
jokke_there is tool 'though to do that14:08
nikhil_kthis is relavant as we may want to schedule a feature for k-1, 2, 3 even before a spec is completely discussed approved14:08
nikhil_kand this may get missed in communicating with release management - thus preventing landing of the code in the cycle14:08
ativelkovWhat about blueprint dependency trees? Should we make the spec dependent in geerit for that?14:08
nikhil_kativelkov: that would be good14:09
lakshmiSso creating spec on gerrit and lp are seperate process?14:09
sigmavirus24lakshmiS: yes14:10
nikhil_knot separate process per say - just manunal work in the same process14:10
jokke_lakshmiS: Effectively yes, but as said there is a script to do it (need to dig out Tue cross project meeting logs where it is)14:10
lakshmiSok14:10
nikhil_kbasically - one feature proposal == creating a spec + bp14:10
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nikhil_koh, one more thing14:11
kragnizjokke_: is that a script to do both, or create blueprint from gerrit spec?14:11
nikhil_kwe are planning to enable a script which identifies inconsistency in the BPs and kick them out of schedule (k1, k2 etc)14:11
jokke_kragniz: it's called spec2bp14:12
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jokke_it creates the bp out of the spec14:12
nikhil_kinsconsistencies like - priority not set, status not proper etc14:12
nikhil_kam little dubious about it14:13
nikhil_khaving a api to create bp would mean potentially spamming the system, but anyways...14:13
nikhil_k#info please sync with nikhil_k if you need to target a bp/spec to a milestone to keep it on schedule and avoid it getting kicked out by the script14:14
nikhil_knext14:14
nikhil_k#topic BPs for k114:14
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nikhil_k#link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/kilo-114:14
nikhil_kone BP merged, so yay!14:15
sigmavirus24time to celebrate14:15
nikhil_kwe've 2 planned and many more to go in the cycle14:15
nikhil_kthe tentative schedule suggests that we'd at least complete 5 by k1 to be on track in this cycle14:15
nikhil_kwould like some volunteers here14:16
nikhil_kmay be specs like taskflow which have code submitted already14:17
lakshmiSI would love to say yes but i think practically "catalog index service" bp would be k2 target14:17
ativelkovШ may split artifacts spec to some smaller parts14:17
sigmavirus24nikhil_k: volunteers for?14:17
mclarenvolunteers for reviews or code nikhil_k ?14:17
ativelkovI* may14:17
nikhil_kwhat about your BP sigmavirus24 ? can we target it for k1?14:17
sigmavirus24nikhil_k: I can work on a patchset for it the end of this week or start of next14:17
nikhil_kmclaren: sigmavirus24 : atm volunteers for specs14:17
ativelkovThis will let us some code which is already completed (such as SemVer support) to be  landed in K114:18
nikhil_kand after that we can identify reviewer availability14:18
nikhil_kativelkov: that sounds good14:18
jokke_nikhil_k: could we have a fast-track to copy the approved speks from previous release to new one if gets delayed. By the looks of it we did not have anything approved for Kilo thus far14:18
nikhil_kativelkov: please create a BP for it in that case and later on you can create a spec. so that we can get the ball rolling14:18
stevelleI'm not sure if I can have a patchset for mine in the K-1 time frame but I could try14:19
nikhil_kjokke_: sure, we can have a fast-track14:19
nikhil_kit's not approved as things were in a bit of flux - the plan is to understand which ones to target for k1 and focus on them14:20
jokke_nikhil_k: that would just help to keep track what we have going on14:20
nikhil_krather than spreading out thin on various specs14:20
nikhil_kstevelle: sure, let's target it14:21
nikhil_kat least we will get some momentum14:21
stevellenikhil_k: I'll sync with you after the meeting then on targeting, per above14:21
nikhil_kearly next week, I will try to circulate the proposed specs/BP for k114:21
ativelkovnikhil_k: here it is, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/semver-support14:21
nikhil_kand we can have a discussion between cores to pick and choose their options14:22
nikhil_kativelkov: awesome!14:22
nikhil_kstevelle: sg14:22
ativelkovwill prepare and submit a spec today/tomorrow14:22
nikhil_k#action: nikhil_k to find if we can have a fast-track14:23
nikhil_kthanks :)14:23
nikhil_k#topic core-reviewers14:23
jokke_nikhil_k: would be great if we could agree/approve the specs for the release, targeting and changing them are easy, but I really dislike the idea of people writing tons of code for review at the point the big picture has not been agreed14:23
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nikhil_kthat's a NP hard problem14:24
nikhil_kand basically - life :)14:24
nikhil_knew cores14:24
nikhil_k#info Welcome to the core team Erno and Alex!14:25
nikhil_kthanks for all the hard work and contributions, much appreciated :))14:25
lakshmiScongrats!14:25
mclarenдобро пожаловать + tervetuloa14:25
jokke_:)14:25
kragnizcongrats!14:25
jokke_cheers14:25
ativelkovThanks! :) It's a honor to be with you, guys14:25
sigmavirus24Conrats everyone!14:25
mfedosin_ativelkov, cakes were tasty! congrats14:26
nikhil_kheh14:26
stevellecongrats14:26
* sigmavirus24 will bake cakes in your honor and eat them for you =P14:26
nikhil_kcongratulations!14:27
nikhil_kso we'd find some new energy in the reviews :)14:27
wayneocongrats!14:27
* jokke_ needs to bring something to the "usual place" @ Mon :P14:27
nikhil_kbe careful though14:27
nikhil_kpeople might buzz you for reviewer assignment to their specs ;)14:28
nikhil_ktry to steer away from irc (just kidding)14:28
jokke_nikhil_k: no worries, have had good mentors to deal with those buzzes :P14:28
ativelkovA question: if I am a co-author of some change-request, is it fair to review patchsets submitted by my co-authers and +1/+2 them? Or, if I am part of the authors, then no reviews from me at all?14:28
mfedosin_ativelkov, yes :)14:29
jokke_ativelkov: IMO treat them as you authored them14:29
ativelkovso, only -1s. got it )14:29
nikhil_kativelkov: please try to *avoid self-approvals* unless it's exceptional situation14:29
kragnizativelkov: I'd say you're a little close to the action14:29
nikhil_k+1s are good too14:30
nikhil_kto suggest that you've reviwed them and are okay with the changes proposed14:30
ativelkovgot it, thanks14:30
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nikhil_k#toic stable juno14:30
nikhil_k#topic stable juno14:31
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nikhil_k:)14:31
nikhil_k#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/StableJuno14:31
nikhil_kseems like we got things resolved and/or clarified14:31
jokke_somewhat14:31
nikhil_kthink we might have missed ativelkov's image update patches though14:31
nikhil_kso what do our action items look like jokke_ ?14:32
nikhil_kyt?14:32
ativelkovYup, I'd prefer the race condition to be fixed at some point, even if not backported to stable juno, but merged into K114:33
jokke_flaper blocking the glance_store bump&cap causes 2014.2.1 -> 2014.2.2 upgrades to fix the swift multi store issues, but other than that I think all tagged and implemented got in14:33
nikhil_kativelkov: can you mark those bugs to k-1 then ?14:33
ativelkovnikhil_k: sure14:34
jokke_so please, please tag any backport potential bugs you think with juno-backport-potential ... I'll be reviewing and tracking those14:34
nikhil_kjokke_: umm, what do you mean "upgrades to fix the swift multi store issues" -> that's a good thing right14:35
jokke_sorry on my previous one, flaper blocking the bump causes that the upgrades are still broken with swift multi store14:35
nikhil_kah ok14:35
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nikhil_kis that up for the next stable juno release then?14:36
jokke_so new installs are ok or if the deployer upgrades glance_store manually14:36
mclarenthis is the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137704/14:36
jokke_but upgrade from previous Juno to latest does not fix the issue14:36
jokke_mclaren: correct14:37
nikhil_kyes, am curious if we can try to get that merged in (with whatever changes to the store) in the next release of stable juno ?14:37
ativelkovnikhil_k: for some reason I cannot assign tag to https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/137172814:37
mclarenthe store changes are in, but making it mandatory to update to the fixed version of glance_store is not14:37
nikhil_khuh, juno-backport-potential tag does not exist14:38
nikhil_kmay be we can create that14:38
ativelkovnikhil_k: never mind, Works now. assigned "kilo-1"14:38
nikhil_kmclaren: ah ok, so the decision to fix it is still not confimed14:38
nikhil_kok14:38
nikhil_kativelkov: ^14:38
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jokke_nikhil_k: I think there is common tag for *-backport-potential where you're supposed to replace the * with the release14:39
mclarennikhil_k: yeah this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137704/ would mean you'd be certain to get a working version of the store14:39
mclarenbut I think there are questions from flaper87 about the mechanics14:39
jokke_nikhil_k: sorry SERIES-backport-potential it is14:40
nikhil_kok, was trying to confirm the stance - we can decide later as well14:40
nikhil_kjokke_: ah ok thanks14:40
nikhil_k#topic Artifacts14:40
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TravTjokke_: so we should use juno-backport-potential for bugs that should be backported?14:41
nikhil_kfor the past few days there have been some concerns about the issue of Glance not including artifacts by a sub set of the group14:41
jokke_TravT: correct14:41
mfedosin_I like this topic :)14:41
nikhil_kthe request is to keep image and registry only in the program14:42
jokke_nikhil_k: would you mind to open that statement up?14:42
jokke_ah14:42
nikhil_kto let everyone know that am trying to get some feedback from variety of people and more importantly from the TC14:42
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nikhil_kthere is not much to tell at this point and  just this small piece of imformation - as it was sincerely requested by some to do so14:43
ativelkovwhat does it mean to us?14:43
nikhil_kwill post some concrete comments next week14:43
nikhil_kativelkov: we can sycn up outside of the meeting if that helps14:44
jokke_nikhil_k: does that mean that there is concerns it not being there yet or concerns to include artifacts to glance?14:44
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ativelkovnikhil_k: yes, I'd like some more details please. Outside the meeting is fine14:44
nikhil_kto clarify - "concern to include it/such features in Glance"14:44
nikhil_k#topic osprofiler14:45
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jokke_nikhil_k: thnx14:45
nikhil_kkragniz: think that's you14:45
nikhil_kwe've some time so figured we can quickly see what's the status14:45
kragnizyeah, I'm going to talk about this in the cross project meeting14:45
nikhil_kcool14:45
kragnizwe can probably skip it14:45
nikhil_kkragniz: you can discuss if you want14:46
mclarenkragniz: is this about some of the pipeline etc stuff?14:46
kragnizokay, so basically we're the odd ones out in terms of the option name for enabling/disabling osprofiler14:46
kragnizI'm proposing we adopt profiler_enabled instead of enabled14:47
mclarenah, ok, so not about loading or not based on whether it's in the pipeline...14:47
nikhil_k#link http://www.mail-archive.com/openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org/msg41298.html14:47
kragnizthis aligns with what cinder folk want, since iirc they already have an option named 'enabled'14:47
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kragnizmclaren: no, just deprecating this option14:47
mclarenok14:47
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kragnizthat's pretty much all the status is14:49
nikhil_kcool14:49
nikhil_kthanks kragniz14:49
kragnizit would be nice if we all used the same option14:49
nikhil_k#topic Reviews to catch up14:49
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nikhil_k#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123722/14:49
nikhil_kativelkov: ?14:49
ativelkovThis is one of the ways to solve race conditions14:50
ativelkovSo, I just wanted some more reviews on this14:51
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nikhil_k#help https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123722/ needs some attention14:51
ativelkovBTW, jokke_, you could update your +1 there with +214:51
mclarenI can take a peek14:52
nikhil_k#topic open discussion14:52
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jokke_Ref bug triage guidelines, I did not rewrite them14:52
nikhil_knp14:52
jokke_#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage14:53
jokke_Please read through with thought ... if we need something more specific for ourselves, we can agree those point or see if we can include them to existing ones14:53
TravTwhat are the guidelines on backport bugs?14:54
kragnizjokke_: looks good14:54
TravTIOW, what qualifies a bug as backport?14:54
TravTActually, I'd like to hear more about the artifacts discussion from TC.14:55
nikhil_k#liink https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch#Stable_branch_policy14:55
nikhil_kTravT: ^14:55
TravTth14:55
TravTthx14:55
jokke_ah nikhil_k was faster :D14:55
jokke_TravT: if unsure, tag the bug and I have a look/consult with the stable-maintainers14:56
TravTjokke_: ok14:56
nikhil_k#info flaper87 is a stable-maint*14:57
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nikhil_kif there's nothing else14:58
kragnizcan I request some eyes on this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135267/14:58
kragnizbefore the next client release14:58
nikhil_k#help https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135267/ before the next client release14:59
nikhil_kok14:59
kragnizcool14:59
nikhil_kThanks all!14:59
TravTi've got something i need in next client release14:59
TravTwhen will it be?14:59
nikhil_klink please14:59
nikhil_kmay be Dec 914:59
TravThttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/128791/15:00
TravTneeded to land Horizon k1 patch15:00
nikhil_kok15:00
nikhil_kwe need to log off15:00
TravTmichal -1'd it only because I didn't yet get the pagination support in cli as well as api15:00
jokke_yeah, thanks all15:00
sigmavirus24Thanks everyone15:00
TravTi'll look at adding that today15:00
kragnizthanks15:00
nikhil_k#endmeeting15:00
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