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| krtaylor | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 18 15:00:29 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is krtaylor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:00 |
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| krtaylor | anyone here for third party working group meeting? | 15:00 |
| asselin_ | hi | 15:00 |
| lennyb | Hi | 15:00 |
| krtaylor | hi asselin_ | 15:00 |
| krtaylor | hi lennyb | 15:00 |
| mmedvede | hello | 15:01 |
| krtaylor | hey mmedvede | 15:01 |
| patrickeast | hey | 15:01 |
| wznoinsk | hi everyone | 15:01 |
| krtaylor | hi everybody | 15:01 |
| krtaylor | we have a full agenda today | 15:02 |
| krtaylor | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty#3.2F18.2F15_1500_UTC | 15:02 |
| krtaylor | also a quick announcement: this Saturday 21st is the gerrit os upgrade | 15:03 |
| krtaylor | and May 9th is the gerrit upgrade | 15:03 |
| asselin_ | gerrit os upgrade --> new ip address | 15:04 |
| krtaylor | so there may be some service interruptions | 15:04 |
| krtaylor | yes, there has been email sent out for details | 15:04 |
| * krtaylor looks for link | 15:04 | |
| krtaylor | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-February/056508.html | 15:05 |
| krtaylor | I havent seen anything newer | 15:05 |
| krtaylor | any other quick announcements? | 15:05 |
| krtaylor | ok, on to agenda items | 15:06 |
| krtaylor | #topic Third-party CI documentation | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Third-party CI documentation (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:06 | |
| krtaylor | I am calling this one done for now | 15:07 |
| krtaylor | all outstanding patches have merged except one | 15:07 |
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| krtaylor | mmedvede, its your links patch | 15:07 |
| mmedvede | oh | 15:07 |
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| mmedvede | need to check on that | 15:08 |
| krtaylor | I feel that any other changes can happen after openstack-ci, downstream-puppet | 15:08 |
| krtaylor | any questions or comments on third party ci documentation? | 15:08 |
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| krtaylor | next | 15:09 |
| krtaylor | #topic openstack-ci or downstream-puppet | 15:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "openstack-ci or downstream-puppet (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:09 | |
| krtaylor | asselin_, good progress here | 15:10 |
| asselin_ | yes, TC approved the governance change yesterday | 15:10 |
| krtaylor | one of the project adds has merged | 15:10 |
| krtaylor | yes, great news | 15:10 |
| asselin_ | next we should be able to merge the project-config change & then we'll have a repo we can submit new changes to. | 15:11 |
| asselin_ | I did put a few items in storyboard. Still need to populate more. This way those who want to work on it can take ownership of the different sections. | 15:12 |
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| krtaylor | asselin_, do you have a link handy? | 15:12 |
| asselin_ | trying to find it... | 15:12 |
| krtaylor | here is the patches: | 15:13 |
| krtaylor | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:downstream-puppet,n,z | 15:13 |
| krtaylor | with this being a focus item for infra, this will make quick progress | 15:13 |
| asselin_ | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000101 | 15:14 |
| krtaylor | but a good opportunity for working group folks to get involved again | 15:14 |
| * krtaylor looks | 15:14 | |
| krtaylor | asselin_, what do you need help with first | 15:14 |
| asselin_ | I need to add more tasks. | 15:15 |
| asselin_ | I will add one for each component mentioned in the spec. | 15:15 |
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| krtaylor | asselin_, then a few patches to prime the pump I presume | 15:15 |
| asselin_ | yes, the log server one is probably the easiest. I have something up for that already, and will adjust it to fit the direction of the spec | 15:16 |
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| krtaylor | asselin_ thanks for all your work on this, it is really important to this group | 15:18 |
| krtaylor | ok, any question for asselin_ ? | 15:18 |
| krtaylor | next topic then | 15:19 |
| krtaylor | #topic Repo for third party tools | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Repo for third party tools (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:19 | |
| krtaylor | this has started with a set of links in the Third Party CI Working Group wiki page | 15:19 |
| krtaylor | we (PowerKVMCI) are still getting approval to make our tools public | 15:20 |
| krtaylor | not expecting any problems, just have to get the appropriate checks | 15:20 |
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| krtaylor | I encourage everyone to put links to any tools that help them in their environment here | 15:21 |
| krtaylor | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartyCIWorkingGroup#Third_Party_CI_System_Tools_Index | 15:21 |
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| krtaylor | this is a repository for info that has been cluttering up the meeting page for a while, I need to move some of that info around at some point | 15:22 |
| krtaylor | the plan is to gather up tools and see if we have enough mass to create a new project repo | 15:23 |
| patrickeast | seems like a good starting point | 15:23 |
| krtaylor | maybe along side the openstack-ci or in stackforge | 15:23 |
| krtaylor | we can list early proof of concepts for monitoring dashboards there also | 15:24 |
| krtaylor | that was more of an announcement to gather tools, but any questions on that? | 15:25 |
| krtaylor | onward | 15:26 |
| krtaylor | #topic What to do with monitoring dashboard | 15:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "What to do with monitoring dashboard (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:26 | |
| krtaylor | so this spec has slowed to a stop | 15:26 |
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| krtaylor | patrickeast, I like your view, mmedvede has brought that up behind our firewall | 15:27 |
| mmedvede | patrickeast: it works :) | 15:27 |
| patrickeast | nice! | 15:27 |
| patrickeast | i have been swamped with other stuff so i haven't had any time to keep tinkering with it | 15:27 |
| patrickeast | all kinds of easy stuff to improve upon there | 15:28 |
| mmedvede | even the functionality it already has is very helpful | 15:28 |
| krtaylor | with a few changes, it could be a worthy radar replacement | 15:28 |
| krtaylor | yes, very nice to see our progress against jenkins quickly | 15:28 |
| * asselin_ looks for link | 15:28 | |
| mmedvede | #link https://github.com/patrick-east/scoreboard | 15:29 |
| asselin_ | where's the link to the running version? | 15:29 |
| krtaylor | thanks mmedvede | 15:29 |
| mmedvede | asselin_: I think it is down | 15:29 |
| patrickeast | oh uh | 15:29 |
| patrickeast | lemmie check | 15:29 |
| mmedvede | http://ec2-54-67-102-119.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com:5000/?project=openstack%2Fnova&user=&timeframe=24 | 15:29 |
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| krtaylor | yeah, thats why we started one | 15:30 |
| patrickeast | ah yea | 15:30 |
| patrickeast | its down | 15:30 |
| mmedvede | I thought it was just a demo and not intended for everybody's use | 15:30 |
| patrickeast | i have one inside my firewall that i keep track of mainly | 15:30 |
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| patrickeast | yea exactly | 15:30 |
| patrickeast | needs a more beefy server for general use | 15:30 |
| asselin_ | ok I guess I'll set one up too :) | 15:30 |
| krtaylor | ok, so back to the spec, abandon and mod scoreboard? | 15:31 |
| krtaylor | maybe we could get infra to spin up a vm to run it on? | 15:32 |
| krtaylor | sounds like a new simplified spec is in order | 15:32 |
| asselin_ | krtaylor, yes, on both | 15:32 |
| patrickeast | yea i liked what we had going in that spec | 15:32 |
| patrickeast | we just added too much | 15:32 |
| krtaylor | agreed, no it was useful work | 15:33 |
| patrickeast | but there is also a demand for something now i think | 15:33 |
| krtaylor | but it did boil the ocean | 15:33 |
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| patrickeast | sort of a stop gap solution, and a more long term solution | 15:33 |
| krtaylor | there are some really good ideas there though | 15:33 |
| asselin_ | patrickeast, +1 | 15:33 |
| asselin_ | krtaylor, yes, and they should be put into v2 | 15:33 |
| krtaylor | ok, I'll take an action to work with sweston and abandon that spec, start a new simplified one | 15:34 |
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| krtaylor | #action krtaylor to migrate old dashboard spec to new simplified v2 | 15:34 |
| krtaylor | any other questions or comments on monitoring dashboard? | 15:35 |
| krtaylor | ok then, on to one of my favorite parts of these meetings | 15:36 |
| krtaylor | #topic Highlighting Third-Party CI Service | 15:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Highlighting Third-Party CI Service (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:36 | |
| wznoinsk | hi | 15:36 |
| krtaylor | this week we have wznoinsk to tell us about Intel Networking CI | 15:36 |
| wznoinsk | first of all I need you to have a quick look at http://pastebin.com/972cE2mc | 15:37 |
| krtaylor | thanks wznoinsk, you have the floor | 15:37 |
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| wznoinsk | I'll be focusing on point 5. - workarounds using docker/containers in a CI system | 15:37 |
| krtaylor | wow, nice writeup | 15:38 |
| wznoinsk | pastebin is a bit of background and some thoughts | 15:38 |
| asselin_ | #link http://pastebin.com/972cE2mc | 15:38 |
| wznoinsk | long story short: we needed a CI system that will spin up fast without a need of farm of hosts/VMs, docker was a perfect solution to have a clean instances of operating system and quite performing compared to VMs | 15:39 |
| wznoinsk | because you share kernel between the host and containers running on it there are a few things you may hit (regarding resources sharing etc - if more than one container needs access to hugepages for example) | 15:40 |
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| wznoinsk | we had to allocate hugepages on the host because that's most probable way of getting the amount hugepages you've originally requested, allocating hugepages inside the containers wouldn't be guaranteed | 15:42 |
| krtaylor | wznoinsk, is the jenkins and other infra services running in a container also? different system? | 15:42 |
| wznoinsk | jenkins is running on the baremetal, same containers are spawned on | 15:43 |
| krtaylor | wznoinsk, this is a really interesting setup | 15:44 |
| wznoinsk | it's doable to have jenkins inside a container, so far we only be providing pip mirror (bandersnatch), apt/yum cache and docker registry (to keep CI images) in containers | 15:44 |
| patrickeast | yea this setup is really cool | 15:45 |
| * patrickeast wonders if containers would make for easier FC testing | 15:45 | |
| * krtaylor notes the 5-7 min setup | 15:45 | |
| patrickeast | haha yea | 15:45 |
| patrickeast | thats pretty sweet | 15:46 |
| wznoinsk | while it's possible to link containers using linux bridge/ovs on the same host I think for containers sitting on different baremetals you still need ssh etc. | 15:46 |
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| lennyb_ | wznoisnsk, are you running only tempest? What about https://github.com/intel-hw-ci/Intel-Openstack-Hardware-CI/tree/master/pci_testcases and Rally test suite? | 15:48 |
| wznoinsk | http://intel-openstack-ci-logs.ovh/networking-ci/refs/changes/95/158495/19/console.log.gz - 10mins stacking, http://intel-openstack-ci-logs.ovh/networking-ci/refs/changes/60/163860/5/console.log.gz - 12, 5-7mins was seen when the machine was a bit less busy | 15:48 |
| wznoinsk | lennyb_: our guys that own PCI/SRIOV CI are doing PCI tests, networking is mainly ovs on intel's dpdk | 15:49 |
| krtaylor | wznoinsk, what is the main reasons for choosing a solution built on containers? speed? | 15:50 |
| wznoinsk | we don't have any custom tests for that one, we will for the (still to come) numa ci | 15:50 |
| lennyb_ | thanks | 15:50 |
| wznoinsk | krtaylor: compared to VMs yes, and if you're talking about top notch hardware (nic?) features you may not have them inside VMs to test them | 15:51 |
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| wznoinsk | compared to barematal on the other hand - it's cleaner, the container has filesystem isolated from the host so devstack is no longer meesing with your operating system/pip packages | 15:52 |
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| krtaylor | wznoinsk, really nice summary, the pros/cons section will help others trying to make this same decision | 15:52 |
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| wznoinsk | I should make a note that it's not a finished list - especially for the cons part ;-) | 15:53 |
| krtaylor | wznoinsk, what is a problem that stumped you for a while and how did you get around it? | 15:53 |
| wznoinsk | I have feeling upstream ovs may not necessarily play well with network name spaces containers/docker is build around | 15:54 |
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| wznoinsk | the one above, still investigating why I'm having problems with vanilla ovs, after trying different setups and kernels I still didn't figure out the reason | 15:54 |
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| krtaylor | wznoinsk, have you scripted any tools to help with monitoring or deploying in this environment? any you'd want to share? | 15:56 |
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| wznoinsk | there are some examples in the pastebin as well but the bigger one I think was that docker/containers are still quite fresh to the world and there are some issues with these, you have to kill a container that is hanging there for too long for a reason that's not yet resolved in docker/lxc, you need to monitor resources on a lower level to react when one of the containers gets abusive about memory/other resources blocking other c | 15:57 |
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| wznoinsk | I have a few nagios checks I'm using for hugepages, I need to write a few to monitor docker/jenkins behaviour/stuck builds | 15:58 |
| krtaylor | we are close to time, any questions for wznoinsk ? | 15:59 |
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| wznoinsk | not much to share at the moment but some nagios checks may land in your tools index eventually | 15:59 |
| asselin_ | wznoinsk, thanks for sharing. very interesting setup. | 15:59 |
| krtaylor | excellent, that would be a welcome addition | 15:59 |
| wznoinsk | happy to help if anyone's interested in containers, it still new to me so I may struggle to answer all questions but will do my best, i'm on IRC /whois wznoinsk | 16:00 |
| mmedvede | wznoinsk: that was great | 16:00 |
| krtaylor | wznoinsk, yes, thanks for sharing about your system, very interesting test environment | 16:00 |
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| krtaylor | thanks everybody, great meeting! | 16:00 |
| wznoinsk | thanks | 16:00 |
| krtaylor | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 18 16:00:46 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-03-18-15.00.html | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-03-18-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-03-18-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
| lennyb_ | Can I ask a short question related to CI in general ? | 16:01 |
| krtaylor | lennyb_, lets move to -infra channel | 16:01 |
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| Nikolay_St | hi | 20:00 |
| Nikolay_St | LogWorkingGroup guys | 20:00 |
| Nikolay_St | who is in? | 20:00 |
| Rockyg | o? | 20:00 |
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| Nikolay_St | o/ | 20:00 |
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| Rockyg | #start meeting Log_wg | 20:01 |
| Rockyg | #startmeeting Log_wg | 20:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 18 20:02:00 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Rockyg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Log_wg)" | 20:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'log_wg' | 20:02 |
| Nikolay_St | ok, nice | 20:02 |
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| Rockyg | Welcome, folks | 20:02 |
| bknudson | hi | 20:02 |
| Nikolay_St | o/ | 20:02 |
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| Rockyg | Agenda got updated on the wiki page | 20:04 |
| bknudson | link? | 20:04 |
| Rockyg | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/log-wg | 20:04 |
| Rockyg | #Topic Liasons -- intros and updates | 20:05 |
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| Nikolay_St | nothing from my side on this topic | 20:06 |
| bknudson | I'm going to add asking someone to sign up as keystone liaison to the keystone meeting next week. | 20:06 |
| bknudson | if nobody else signs up it'll be me. | 20:06 |
| bknudson | (it'll be me) | 20:06 |
| Rockyg | #action bknudson will try to get someone as Keystone Liaison | 20:07 |
| Rockyg | johnthetubaguy is Nova, but has a scheduling conflict for the meetings | 20:07 |
| Rockyg | I have an action item from the first meeting to try and get signups. | 20:08 |
| Rockyg | Should we try for an Ops liaison, too? | 20:09 |
| Rockyg | Sounds like we are ready for next topic | 20:10 |
| Nikolay_St | Rockyg: what do you meand under Ops? | 20:10 |
| Nikolay_St | *mean | 20:10 |
| * bknudson added topic to keystone meeting agenda. | 20:10 | |
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| Rockyg | Nikolay_St: Yes. Someone to monitor and get Ops participation when needed | 20:11 |
| Rockyg | Let's move to next topic | 20:12 |
| Rockyg | #topic review of action items | 20:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review of action items (Meeting topic: Log_wg)" | 20:12 | |
| Rockyg | I'll start with mine from 3/4....Error code spec | 20:13 |
| bknudson | is there a spec? | 20:14 |
| Rockyg | It's within an hour of first draft submit to gerrit but I got a new laptop last fall and have to reinstall the apps to be able to do the git review from it | 20:14 |
| Rockyg | Working through the process now, so should be able to submit either today or tomorrow | 20:14 |
| * bknudson isn't sure why error code spec is in logging working group? | 20:14 | |
| bknudson | thought it would be api | 20:15 |
| Rockyg | Overall spec for error codes. Error codes can be used for non-api stuff, too. | 20:15 |
| Rockyg | Every error message should have an identifying code. | 20:15 |
| bknudson | ahh. we've got a system here that tags them in the po file. | 20:16 |
| Rockyg | po? | 20:16 |
| bknudson | the messages file | 20:16 |
| Rockyg | Ah. | 20:16 |
| bknudson | I don't know how well it works of if it's really used. | 20:17 |
| Rockyg | also, since they *should* be part of message header, they get implemented in oslo.log as part of the message formatting | 20:17 |
| bknudson | essentially generates an ID from the message text, or you can override it with a specific ID. | 20:17 |
| Rockyg | Can you put up a link to either that code or better a spec or blueprint? It would be good to read up on it | 20:18 |
| Rockyg | also, I don't think every project has that | 20:18 |
| bknudson | no project has it, it's in our product... so we don't have a spec or blueprint... although maybe we did think about upstreaming it at some point. | 20:19 |
| bknudson | will ask around. | 20:19 |
| Rockyg | Cool. It might end up useful as part of this effort | 20:19 |
| Nikolay_St | I agree with Rockyg | 20:20 |
| Rockyg | jokke_ dhellmann and I had discussed a tool that would assign the number part of the error code and in the process, would take the description and put all in a database. so we don't have duplicate codes and we always get a description | 20:21 |
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| * bknudson is looking at the code now... (internal only) | 20:22 | |
| Rockyg | anyway, I'll post a message to the dev and ops mailing lists when I get the first rev into gerrit. And everyone can review it | 20:22 |
| Nikolay_St | Rockyg: sounds good | 20:23 |
| Rockyg | Second AI I had was getting a cross project owner for the referrer ID spec. It appeasrs that also got discussed last meeting. can we get links to all the project specific specs posted here? | 20:24 |
| Rockyg | johnthetyubaguy wants to do some work in this area and I thought he might be a good owner for the xproject spec | 20:24 |
| bknudson | y, this tool that we have isn't really appropriate for how openstack does things. Packagers like us can use it. | 20:25 |
| Nikolay_St | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/sahara-specs/specs/kilo/sahara-log-guidelines.html | 20:25 |
| bknudson | but, maybe it provides some ideas for how to do it in os. | 20:25 |
| Rockyg | bknudson, that would be cool. FYI the error codes on everything go back to mainframe and high performance compute vendors. books of error codes and what they meant | 20:26 |
| bknudson | y, that's why we did it... we're old hands at this. | 20:26 |
| Rockyg | Also cool. | 20:27 |
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| Rockyg | We've got the link to the Sahara spec. I think there's a cinder spec also. I'll see what I can find on that one and add it to the LogworkingGroup page | 20:28 |
| Nikolay_St | Rockyg: Sahara spec is on the page, also | 20:29 |
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| Rockyg | Yup. Saw that. Thanks! | 20:29 |
| Nikolay_St | I think we can go with my item from 3/11 | 20:30 |
| Nikolay_St | the etherpad is here | 20:30 |
| Nikolay_St | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Logging-Improvements | 20:30 |
| Rockyg | typed faster than me;-) Thanks | 20:30 |
| * bknudson is looking forward to spec on message ids... will add folks here who are interested. | 20:30 | |
| Nikolay_St | as I said on previous meeting I still don't have enough time to contribute some *big* things for improvement | 20:31 |
| Nikolay_St | just some notices after logs refactoring | 20:31 |
| Nikolay_St | I hope that other Sahara guys who is involved in logging improvement logging could contribute before next meeting of LWG | 20:32 |
| Nikolay_St | or I will contribute after I discuss some questions with them | 20:32 |
| Rockyg | That's good stuff, though, and reviewing the xproject specs, or getting some project eyes on them will go a long way | 20:32 |
| Rockyg | nikolay_St: is Sahara tagging log bugs? If not, could you create a log tag ans start? | 20:34 |
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| Nikolay_St | Rockyg: uhm... looks like I can't get the point :( | 20:35 |
| Nikolay_St | Rockyg: I'm sure that we don't tag log bugs | 20:35 |
| Nikolay_St | Rockyg: but can't get what you want me to do | 20:35 |
| Rockyg | In launchpad, bugs filed against Sahara have tags. If you know of bugs related to logging, just add the tag "log" | 20:35 |
| Rockyg | Also, in the ehterpad you posted, Item 2, are bugs filed for either of the examples? | 20:36 |
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| Rockyg | And, is Sahara using oslo.log? | 20:38 |
| jokke_ | ,wi25 | 20:38 |
| jokke_ | sorry | 20:38 |
| Nikolay_St | Rockyg: yeap, Sahara using oslo.log | 20:38 |
| Nikolay_St | Rockyg: not yeat, have no time for this :( was busy with devstack artifacts | 20:39 |
| Nikolay_St | Rockyg: will be back for logging before the end of the week | 20:39 |
| Rockyg | That's OK. But we need to get them filed soon after 3/23 so that Oslo can fix as many as possible so Sahara (and other projects') code can work properly | 20:40 |
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| Rockyg | Also, FYI for people interested in this stuff, Oslo has (or will have) a config option inglobal requirements text file to set logging to syslog format. All projects using oslo.log will get the benefit of consistency | 20:42 |
| Nikolay_St | Rockyg: it's not the *bug* related for oslo.log | 20:42 |
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| bknudson | I'm not sure whether the default oslo.log config is all that useful for real deployments... | 20:42 |
| Nikolay_St | Rockyg: finally I get what you're talking about :) | 20:42 |
| bknudson | they probably need to use a logging.conf file | 20:43 |
| Rockyg | bknudson: good to know. | 20:43 |
| bknudson | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164851/ | 20:43 |
| bknudson | oslo.log is handy for the default config that we run in the gate and during dev, but real deployments are probably going to want a file/syslog rather than stdout. | 20:44 |
| bknudson | The above link is an oslo.log spec that folks here might be interested in (add yourself) | 20:44 |
| Rockyg | doh. Yeah! | 20:44 |
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| Rockyg | One of the aims with this group is at a minimum to get a decent syslog compliant config | 20:45 |
| bknudson | I like that idea... would make oslo.log useful. | 20:46 |
| bknudson | more useful (sorry0 | 20:46 |
| Rockyg | dhellmann and team says oslo.log is already set up to do that, it's a matter of setting up the config. | 20:47 |
| Rockyg | also, logging different levels to different files and dynamic changes to that | 20:47 |
| bknudson | if it was just a switch --use-syslog or use_syslog=True that would be nice. | 20:47 |
| bknudson | and also if it was tested in devstack would be bonus. | 20:47 |
| Rockyg | That's what it is supposed to be. | 20:47 |
| bknudson | tested in gate. | 20:47 |
| bknudson | (if this is how we expect real deployments to operate) | 20:48 |
| Rockyg | Write all these things down in the etherpad. we can make specs or blueprints for them if they aren't in the code, and then they can be prioritized. | 20:48 |
| bknudson | y, we already have this option in keystone: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/etc/keystone.conf.sample#n165 | 20:49 |
| bknudson | have not tried it. | 20:49 |
| Rockyg | OK. Let's get an update on jokke_ 's action item. | 20:49 |
| bknudson | do we have an etherpad for these things already? | 20:50 |
| Rockyg | Yes. That's the same option that dhellmann wants to have in global so that everyone who uses oslo.log will automatically get syslog on the projects' errors | 20:50 |
| jokke_ | No update ... will get chaser out there next week when we have got over this freeze panic across the border | 20:50 |
| jokke_ | s | 20:50 |
| Rockyg | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Logging-Improvements | 20:50 |
| bknudson | oh, thought that was just for sahara. | 20:51 |
| Nikolay_St | bknudson: nope | 20:51 |
| Rockyg | I think it's more important to categorize the issues and improvements by log area than by project area. | 20:51 |
| Nikolay_St | bknudson: it was create as a place to collect an information about all possibilities and projects | 20:52 |
| Rockyg | But, we also have another etherpad for general notes. Wait a sec... | 20:52 |
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| Rockyg | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Log-Working-Group | 20:53 |
| Rockyg | That might be a good place to put xproject improvements | 20:53 |
| bknudson | where do you want syslog logging? | 20:54 |
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| bknudson | it's easy enough to move, so I'm not worried about it (bikeshedding) | 20:55 |
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| Rockyg | I think logging improvements is the place. We can link to that etherpad from the WG one | 20:55 |
| bknudson | ok | 20:55 |
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| Rockyg | Let's move on | 20:57 |
| Rockyg | #topic relevant specs | 20:57 |
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| bknudson | oops, should have waited. | 20:57 |
| bknudson | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164851/ | 20:57 |
| Rockyg | We'll need to get as many of the project specific specs idenified as possible, including Oslo ;-) | 20:58 |
| Rockyg | Thnaks bknudson | 20:58 |
| bknudson | If I was making changes in keystone to improve logging I'd just file bugs or just post the change. | 20:58 |
| Rockyg | We should add those to either etherpad or wiki. I'm thinking wiki. we've got a spot for that on the wiki page already | 20:58 |
| Rockyg | When you file the bug(s) tag them with "log" | 20:59 |
| Rockyg | That way we'll have a way to select for them across projects | 20:59 |
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| bknudson | find this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1432191 | 21:00 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1432191 in Keystone "Logs useless debugging issue with external auth" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Brant Knudson (blk-u) | 21:00 |
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| Rockyg | This is the kind of info the liaisons need to spread through project meetings | 21:01 |
| Rockyg | Ooooh! look at that! a bug with a log tag! | 21:01 |
| bknudson | there's 2 now. | 21:02 |
| jokke_ | :) | 21:03 |
| bknudson | the link to log bugs is too long, so just put it in the etherpad. | 21:03 |
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| Rockyg | I think I need to add the tag to the OpenStack over project | 21:04 |
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| Rockyg | but if you do an advanced search, a fuel bug and a keystone bug turn up | 21:06 |
| Rockyg | Thanks for the link. Yeah, I'm hoping with tags, we can make the dashboard query a lot shorter. | 21:07 |
| Rockyg | Oops. I think we ran over. | 21:08 |
| Rockyg | #endmeeting | 21:08 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 18 21:08:13 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:08 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/log_wg/2015/log_wg.2015-03-18-20.02.html | 21:08 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/log_wg/2015/log_wg.2015-03-18-20.02.txt | 21:08 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/log_wg/2015/log_wg.2015-03-18-20.02.log.html | 21:08 |
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| Nikolay_St | thank guys | 21:08 |
| Nikolay_St | bye! | 21:08 |
| Rockyg | But no one else has this channel now. If you have agenda items, go ahead and put them in the agenda. | 21:08 |
| Nikolay_St | hm | 21:08 |
| Rockyg | And thanks everybody!!!@!! | 21:09 |
| Nikolay_St | I'm done for today :) | 21:09 |
| Rockyg | I thikn we may need to move this meeting earlier. | 21:09 |
| bknudson | thanks. | 21:09 |
| Nikolay_St | Rockyg: sounds good for me | 21:09 |
| Nikolay_St | but well | 21:10 |
| Nikolay_St | I need to go | 21:10 |
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| Rockyg | G'night! | 21:10 |
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