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sarob#startmeeting akanda15:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Apr 27 15:00:28 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'akanda'15:00
sarobroll call15:00
adam_go/ !15:00
sarob\o/15:01
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sarobim pinging ryan and david15:03
ryanpetrello_o/15:03
sarobpinged15:03
sarob:)15:03
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davidlenwello/15:05
sarobcool15:05
sarob#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/akanda#Agenda15:05
sarobpretty simple this morning15:05
saroblets review the bp15:05
sarob#topic review blueprints15:06
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sarob#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda15:06
saroboh15:06
sarobWELCOME Adam to the akanda team!!!!15:06
adam_gthanks, sarob  :)15:07
davidlenwellhey adam!15:07
sarobfancy irc welcome15:07
sarobso i took what was in trello15:08
ryanpetrello_:D o/15:08
sarobsummarized a few of them, like oslo fix ups15:08
saroband here you go15:09
sarobim going to merge specs dir15:09
sarobfor more details15:10
davidlenwelldetails are good15:10
sarobis there anything major missing from the bp15:10
sarobassuming the title says enuf to understand15:10
sarobwhat its about15:10
ryanpetrello_probably something for image building?15:11
sarobhmm, right15:11
sarobthat got munged15:11
ryanpetrello_before Mark left, he was working on getting a process in place for easily building and uploading appliance images with the same tooling infra uses15:11
adam_gDIB?15:11
davidlenwellyes15:11
ryanpetrello_(yep)15:11
davidlenwellI'm also using DIB to build the image for the ingix thing we're doing15:12
ryanpetrello_DreamHost folks have been using veewee *shudder*15:12
adam_g+1 to DIB15:12
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ryanpetrello_we probably need a BP for building nightly + stable images from source15:12
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ryanpetrello_a lot of the work is done, but it's been on hiatus since Mark left15:13
adam_gthe ci-updates blueprints mentions it15:13
sarobyeah, i jammed them together15:13
ryanpetrello_k, that works15:13
ryanpetrello_it's probably higher priority, though15:13
ryanpetrello_davidlenwell got stuck on it because we don't have public images currently15:13
davidlenwellryanpetrello_:  so you saw my messages from last night ?15:14
ryanpetrello_yep :)15:14
davidlenwellnice ..15:14
adam_gwhat about post-commit image builds?  the ironic team does something similar with their deploy ramdisk images, that uploads new builds to tarballs.openstack.org after each commit merges to relevant repos15:14
davidlenwelladam_g:  +115:14
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davidlenwellthats how we should handle it15:14
ryanpetrello_yea, at this point, *anything* would work15:14
ryanpetrello_I currently develop with the veewee-based image we use for DHC production15:14
sarobadam_g +115:15
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sarobso you guys want to start adding some details straight into the bp15:16
davidlenwellI think thats wise ..15:16
sarobi will patch the akanda repo for specs15:16
davidlenwellsounds like a plan..15:16
sarobso we can start creating specs for the bp real details15:16
sarobim not going to worry about tox spec jobs for right now15:17
sarob#action sarob patch akanda repo for specs15:17
sarob#action team update existing bp with details15:17
sarobso what about timing15:18
sarobdo we, can we branch kilo before the summit?15:18
sarobwhat in this list needs to drop out?15:19
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ryanpetrello_I feel like rug-ha is pretty aggressive15:19
ryanpetrello_given that I don't think we actually have a working akanda + kilo in-tree15:20
ryanpetrello_(at all)15:20
ryanpetrello_some of it's partially implemented in Mark's forks, some of it's still in his brain15:20
ryanpetrello_but it's possible that he's made more progress on that front that I've been aware of15:20
davidlenwellI hope he hasn't .. he is supposed to be on a honey moon15:21
davidlenwell;)15:21
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sarob"we" need to spread the joy and get15:21
sarobthe rest of us working on the bits15:21
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davidlenwellI'll be of more help on this by the time he gets back.. finally getting a working dev env going.. hopfully finishing the final bits of that todayw ith ryans help.15:22
ryanpetrello_yea, that's probably first going to require actually getting you all spun up on dev environments with this stuff15:22
davidlenwellthat ^15:22
ryanpetrello_brb, gotta grab a power adapter15:22
sarobso lets assume that the trello dev sprint was correct15:23
sarobthat i moved over into bp15:23
sarobfor now15:23
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sarobwe as a team focus on documenting the bp15:24
sarobbreaking them down into smaller, patchable pieces15:24
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sarobbeing that david is just getting in the flow15:25
saroband adam is just starting15:25
sarobwe have a bit a catch up to do15:25
adam_gare we using specs to per review those details before they go into the BP? or just going straight into the BP for now?15:25
davidlenwellI can work with adam to get him up to speed faster than I did15:25
adam_g*peer15:25
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sarobdavidlenwell: good plan15:25
sarobadam_g: start with the bp for right now15:26
sarobill patch specs right after this meeting so15:26
adam_gk15:26
sarobyou can start braindumping into there15:26
davidlenwellI think some items will need specs before we should expect anyone to know what to do wit hthem15:26
sarobdavidlenwell: yeah15:27
sarobwe dont quite know where to start yet15:27
sarobalthough getting the nightly images builds going is a good one to start15:27
davidlenwella lot can be derived from context .. but the less guessing the better for me anyways15:27
sarobyeah15:27
davidlenwellsarob: I think what adam was suggesting is that we forgott nightly builds and move to a post commit image build15:28
davidlenwellthat way we always have images that are up to date15:28
sarobdavidlenwell: yeah, i already merged the two in my head15:28
davidlenwellwhich I think is smart15:28
sarobvery smarty15:28
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adam_gIMO image builds should be the artifact of successful devstack-tempest jobs run in the gate, so if we can get devstack jobs running against patches we are most of the way there.. is there a status on the devstack integration at this point?15:29
ryanpetrello_+115:29
ryanpetrello_I was discussing this very thing w/ Mark15:29
ryanpetrello_re: image build promotion15:29
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sarobso no pending patches in review15:29
sarobclean slate!15:29
adam_gi was planning on hacking the devstack support as part of my first deep dive into akanda/setting up a dev env15:29
ryanpetrello_so there's ansible recipes to build out a devstack15:30
ryanpetrello_but currently I'm using the DH image build (which I mentioned earlier)15:30
sarobadam_g:15:30
adam_gah15:30
ryanpetrello_Mark and I were working on getting a recipe to build out the appliance w/ dib before he left15:30
ryanpetrello_and it had a few small kinks left15:30
ryanpetrello_(that he was working on)15:30
ryanpetrello_so we should probably prioritize that, a job that can build an appliance image from source + devstack + tempest15:30
davidlenwellhe did mention that to me before he left when I brought up dib for the ingix image15:30
adam_gcool. i think a devstack plugin would be a good idea.. we can host it in one of the akanda repos and enable it in devstack via localrc15:31
ryanpetrello_yep15:31
ryanpetrello_that support's in Kilo, right?15:31
ryanpetrello_the link to a plugin that devstack will download?15:31
adam_gyup15:31
ryanpetrello_I know hew as going that route, too15:31
ryanpetrello_the stuff I was working on was just getting a devstack + appliance source job for Juno15:31
davidlenwellwhen does mark return?15:31
ryanpetrello_because as I mentioned, Kilo doesn't really work yet15:31
ryanpetrello_(good question)15:31
ryanpetrello_next week?15:31
sarobi think tomorrow15:32
ryanpetrello_oh, okay15:32
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sarobsooo, thats all i have for today15:32
sarobwe need to document the bp15:32
saroband create some specs for the biggins15:33
sarob#topic any other business?15:33
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sarobany thing else meeting wise?15:34
davidlenwellI'd like the express my exictement for our growing team! welcome adam_g!15:34
sarobdavidlenwell: +115:35
sarobokay, lets call this one15:36
adam_gthanks guys, excited to be here :)15:36
sarob:)15:36
sarob#endmeeting15:37
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SukhdevHello L2GW folks16:59
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SukhdevHey guys - hope everybody realizes that we changed the meeting time17:01
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marutikamatHi17:02
selvakumar_sHi All17:03
ashishghi17:03
SukhdevHi guys -17:03
Sukhdevwaiting for armax to join in - will give him a minute or so17:03
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Sukhdevlets get started -17:05
Sukhdevstartmeeting networking_l2gw17:05
Sukhdev#startmeeting networking_l2gw17:05
openstackMeeting started Mon Apr 27 17:05:32 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:05
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:05
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking_l2gw'17:05
Sukhdev#topic: Agenda17:05
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Sukhdev#link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/L2Gateway#Agenda17:05
SukhdevHope everybody had a chance to look at the agenda17:06
SukhdevDoes anybody want to add anything to Agenda?17:06
Sukhdev#Announcements:17:06
ashishgyes can we include the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172855/ for review17:06
marutikamatAshish wants to add review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172855/ <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172855/>17:06
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Sukhdevmarutikamat: Lets discuss these in the Bugs section17:07
marutikamatsure17:07
SukhdevKilo is out and the Liberty Summit is in 3 weeks -17:07
Sukhdevanybody wants to announce anything for the team?17:08
Sukhdevmarutikamat, ashishg: You are free to add things to the agenda beforehand - just update the wiki directly17:09
Sukhdev#topic: Action Items from previous week17:09
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SukhdevI saw the presentation for the summit17:09
SukhdevI have not had time to review it yet - just did a quick glance at it17:10
marutikamatMore things to be fleshed out in the slides17:10
Sukhdevmarutikamat: correct17:10
marutikamatthey are just a draft version17:10
marutikamatAnyone is free to edit them17:10
Sukhdevmarutikamat: Understood17:10
Sukhdevmarutikamat: the version you sent, I could not edit - can you send it either google or powerpoint slides form?17:11
marutikamatsure17:11
Sukhdevyamahata: did you have an opportunity to look at them?17:12
yamahataSukhdev: Not yet. I'll do this week.17:12
Sukhdevmarutikamat: Also, one more observation - these say HP Helium - Do you want them to be HP specific?17:12
Sukhdevmarutikamat: my suggestion will be remove this - thoughts?17:13
marutikamatWe received an e-mail from management to use that template17:13
marutikamatI will check and let you know tomorrow.17:14
yamahataHelion?17:14
Sukhdevmarutikamat: Please do -17:14
Sukhdevyamahata: Yes17:14
marutikamatYes17:14
Sukhdevmarutikamat: My suggestion would be to keep the deck generic and then mention at some point about HP solution17:15
marutikamatYes makes sense17:15
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Sukhdevmarutikamat: When you talk about the solution and demo - use HP switches and specific products17:16
marutikamatagreed17:16
Sukhdevmarutikamat: I will do the same - BTW, it is working on Arista TORs as well - I tested in multi-switch topology17:16
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Sukhdevmarutikamat: Once you send the editable version, I will make the updates and send it back to the team for review/discussion17:17
SukhdevOur next meeting will be the last before Summit -17:18
marutikamatGreat news! :)17:18
SukhdevWe should iron out everything by them17:18
marutikamatGreat news that the solution is working with Arista as well17:18
SukhdevAnything else on this?17:18
marutikamatI sent you the editable version just now17:19
Sukhdevmarutikamat: Cool - thanks - is it in the powerpoint or Google ?17:19
marutikamatpower point17:19
SukhdevI am an Apple guy - have to make sure have appropriate packages to edit :-):-)17:19
SukhdevAnything on the Summit session planning?17:20
marutikamatFirst let's get the slides in shape17:20
marutikamatWhat do you say?17:20
SukhdevActually, I have couple of question - will ask later in the meeting17:21
Sukhdevmarutikamat: Yes - agree17:21
Sukhdevmarutikamat: lets iterate over email17:21
marutikamatOnly then we will come to know how much time it will take for us to go through the slides17:21
SukhdevSounds good17:21
marutikamatWe will also meet in person before the session and will finalize.17:22
Sukhdevmarutikamat: good idea17:22
Sukhdev#topic: Versioning and Release Management17:22
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marutikamatI will check if Alok/Ashish can record a demo too17:22
marutikamatArmando has to approve the review posted by Sukhdev17:23
marutikamatSukhdev can you check with him?17:23
Sukhdevmarutikamat: Yes, I was looking for him.17:24
SukhdevAre we in a position to cut the release - there are some critical bugs still open17:24
SukhdevI do not know if you saw this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177637/17:24
Sukhdev#link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177637/17:24
marutikamatWe will fix them in a few more days17:24
SukhdevOur project was not setup with correct ACLs, hence, I could not tag the release - now that this patch is approved, I can tag our project with branches17:25
SukhdevI will create a kilo/stable release branch - within this week.17:25
SukhdevAs soon as armax approves my patch, this will be ready to go17:26
marutikamatThis is good17:26
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SukhdevThen I will release networing-l2gw package on pypi17:26
SukhdevI have been purposely dragging my feel to get things stablize17:26
SukhdevI opened a bug late last week - which is very annoying as well -17:27
Sukhdevrequire unstack/stack to move forward - those kinds of bugs are annoying :-)17:27
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marutikamatA few developers need some clarifications from you on some bugs17:27
marutikamat:)17:27
Sukhdevmarutikamat: That is why I added Bugs as a topic to the agenda - lets cover all of that in there17:28
SukhdevI have one more topic before we jump into Bugs17:28
marutikamatok17:28
Sukhdev#topic: OVSDB Sever <-> Neutron Controller connection initiation17:28
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SukhdevI wanted to have brief discussion on this -17:29
marutikamatPer the blueprint spec, only l2gw agent opens a connection with the OVSDB server unlike NSX17:29
SukhdevOur present solution requires Neutron to open a connection with OVSDB server17:29
marutikamatWe can include it in the next release17:29
Sukhdevmarutikamat: correct - I noticed it leaves a security hole (during my testing) - hence, thought if we can discuss and fix17:30
marutikamatok17:30
Sukhdevnext release is fine - as long as we understand the issue.17:30
Sukhdevmarutikamat: Perhaps we can add to our future work items.17:31
marutikamatYou may SSL between the l2gw agent and the OVSDB server to fill this security hole. Any thoughts?17:31
marutikamatL2 gw agent already supports SSL17:31
SukhdevThere are multiple ways to address the security - but, I was accidently attaching to the wrong switches, and it will let me do it17:32
SukhdevI was launching devstack (forgot to update the IP of the devices) and it will gladly connect to the switches, it was not suppose to connect17:33
selvakumar_sSukhdev: in that case SSL do the trick right ?17:33
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Sukhdevselvakumar_s: Probably (and will also admit that it was an operator fault) - nonetheless, if we allowed the connection initiation in the reverse direction, this will make it safe17:34
Sukhdevselvakumar_s: Also, for those who are used to NSX type of deployments, this will come more natural for them17:35
marutikamatWe will implement it in the next release.17:35
Sukhdevselvakumar_s: for new comers this will not matter17:35
Sukhdevmarutikamat: Cool - we will add to our future items17:36
Sukhdevlets move on17:36
marutikamatOk17:36
Sukhdev#Bugs:17:36
SukhdevLet me start with one -17:36
Sukhdevthe one I added to the agenda17:36
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Sukhdev#link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-l2gw/+bug/144418817:36
openstackLaunchpad bug 1444188 in networking-l2gw "can not create l2 gateway connection without specifying segmentation ID" [Undecided,New]17:36
SukhdevI tried to explain the limitation in the bug explanation - did it make sense?17:37
marutikamatAlok/Selva, your observation/analysis on this one.17:37
SukhdevIf we allowed segmentation-ID = 0 (to mean untagged packets) that will do the trick17:37
selvakumar_sSukhdev: we need the OVSDB Dump how it should look like in case of no segmentation id17:38
Sukhdevselvakumar_s: When I get on the system next, I will capture and paste it to the bug17:38
selvakumar_sSukhdev: we discussed with Alok and HP switch will not work for emtpy vlan_binding for the port table17:38
marutikamatSukhdev, when you do this with NSX, what is the VNI to VLAN binding on the physical port on the OVSDB server table?17:38
Sukhdevin general, I want to make sure we are on the same page in terms of tagged vs untagged packets17:39
marutikamatSelva, we can try with 0 as Sukhdev mentioned17:39
selvakumar_sSukhdev: For This bug  : Making changes in Front end is easy and we need to understand deeper how it works in OVSDB side if we dont allow segmentation id .17:39
marutikamatIt will be clear after Sukhdev supplies the OVSDB table dump17:39
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selvakumar_sYes Maruti:17:40
Sukhdevselvakumar_s: I am not expert on NSX (hence I am working with Artista internal people who are expert in that area) - But, I think NSX allows segmentation ID = 0 for untagged packets17:40
marutikamatAI on Sukhdev: Supply the OVSDB dump when you configure with 0 seg ID.17:41
Sukhdevselvakumar_s: I will collect more information and how it works on NSX and add to the bug description17:41
marutikamatPlease paste in the bug report.17:41
selvakumar_sSukhdev: Sure meanwhil we will discuss internally tomorrow17:41
Sukhdev#action: Sukhdev to provide the dump of OVSDB server for untagged configuration17:41
selvakumar_sSure17:41
SukhdevNext bug:17:42
Sukhdev#link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172855/17:42
Sukhdevashishg: you are looking for approval on this, right?17:43
marutikamatSukhdev: Please review it if time permits.17:43
selvakumar_sSukhdev: we have reviewed this patchset internally and we are waiting for armax and you for further  reviewing17:43
Sukhdevashishg: or do you want to discuss anything about it?17:43
ashishgyes i want this to be reviewed17:44
Sukhdevselvakumar_s: my bad - I actually looked at it twice, but, could not complete the review (because the patch is big) :-)17:44
Sukhdevashishg: I will get to it this week - unless armax beats me to it :-)17:44
Sukhdevnext bug17:45
ashishgok thanks17:45
Sukhdev#link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172855/17:45
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SukhdevOpps - sorry it the same one17:45
marutikamat:)17:45
Sukhdevmarutikamat: you had two - what is the other one?17:45
marutikamatOther one was yours17:46
marutikamathttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/172742/17:46
SukhdevOh OK - we are waiting for armax to approve this - unless marutikamat you want to approve it?17:47
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marutikamatJust wanted armax to check whether his review comments are addressed.17:47
Sukhdevmarutikamat: sounds good - I will look for him on IRC later17:48
marutikamatok thanks.17:48
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Sukhdevarmax: I see you are online now -17:48
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SukhdevThere is one more bug - I wanted to bring up -17:48
Sukhdev#link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-l2gw/+bug/144791017:49
openstackLaunchpad bug 1447910 in networking-l2gw "L2 Gateway creates multiple entries for logical switch" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to MANJUNATH PATIL (mpatil)17:49
SukhdevDid you have a chance to look at this one?17:49
SukhdevThis was the latest one I discovered -17:49
SukhdevThe worst part is it hard to clear the condition.17:49
marutikamatWe will figure out the root cause tomorrow.17:49
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SukhdevI remved duplicate entry from mysql - as well as reset the OVSDB server (removed from it as well), but will reappear - :-)17:50
Sukhdevthe only way to clear it was by unstacking/stacking - which is kinda annoying :-)17:50
marutikamatIf you could described how you ran into this situation (reproducible steps), it will help us to understand it quickly.17:51
SukhdevAnything else on the Bugs?17:51
Sukhdevmarutikamat: I could not figure out how I got into this mess - All I know is it was working fine with one TOR. I was trying to another TOR to the topology17:51
marutikamatOK. We will look into this tomorrow.17:52
SukhdevOnce I had all the underlay worked out for the second TOR and went to create a GW and connection and it started rejecting - that is how I discovered this condition17:52
SukhdevAnything else?17:53
Sukhdev#Open Discussion:17:53
SukhdevI had couple of question - that I mentioned I will ask later17:53
SukhdevLet me ask them now17:53
SukhdevFirst question is neutron-l2gw vs, just neutron17:54
Sukhdevwhy did we choose to start our api's with -l2gw option?17:54
marutikamatSelva, do you know this info from Preeti?17:54
SukhdevIt almost gives the feeling that we are orphan children :-):-)17:55
selvakumar_sNo idea Maruti . I think armax might be knowing this17:55
marutikamatIt is because the CLIs code is not part of python neutron client17:55
Sukhdevmarutikamat: do we intend to align evantually?17:55
Sukhdevperhaps I will ask armax when I run into him17:56
SukhdevSecond question -17:56
marutikamatok17:56
Sukhdevit is related to future work -17:56
SukhdevShall we plug these APIs into Horizon?17:56
selvakumar_sSukhdev:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164114/17:56
selvakumar_sthis review is for l2gateway cli using neutronclient extension.17:57
marutikamatOptions I can think of: 1. Using manager table of OVSDB to initiate connections from the OVSDB server.17:57
marutikamat2. S/W l2 gateway17:57
marutikamat3. Supporting DVR with l2gw.17:57
Sukhdevselvakumar_s: Thanks for the link - I will look at this17:58
marutikamatHaving l2gw APIs in Horizon looks good too.17:59
Sukhdevmarutikamat: Yes, all of those are good to add18:00
Sukhdevmarutikamat: perhaps we should add those to slide deck18:00
marutikamattrue18:00
Sukhdevmarutikamat: I can think of another one - VLAN<->VLAN gateway support18:00
selvakumar_sSukhdev: Good point18:01
marutikamatRacha wanted to support other types like FLAT or GRE (I don't remember)18:01
Sukhdevmarutikamat: yes, that is true - we should list these all and then we can prioritize based upon the interest18:02
SukhdevWe are out of time - anything else?18:02
SukhdevThis is excellent discussion - wish armax was here too :-(18:02
SukhdevThanks folks18:02
Sukhdev#endmeeting18:03
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selvakumar_sThanks all18:03
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