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sdake#startmeeting kolla16:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jun 24 16:00:38 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sdake. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)"16:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'kolla'16:00
sdake#topic rollcall16:00
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mstachowo/ all16:00
rhalliseyhey16:00
jmccarthyo/ here16:01
SamYapleo/16:01
daneyon_hi16:01
jpeelerhi16:01
sdake\m/ :)16:01
kevsi_Hi16:02
sdakegive couple more mins for stragglers16:02
mfalatico716:02
sdake#topic announcements16:03
*** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)"16:03
sdakeThe Kolla-polluza midecycle meetup date has been confirmed July 28 (tuesday) and July 29th (Wednesday)16:04
SamYaplew00t16:04
sdakeI am still getting details on logistics, but the rooms are *confirmed*16:04
sdakewe have seating for 24 people16:04
sdakebeyond that the fire marshall forces us to kick people out16:04
inc0San Jose?16:04
sdakeI will give priority in the following order16:04
sdake1) core reviewers16:04
sdake2) people that signed up on the doodle poll16:05
sdake3) everyone else16:05
sdakeit will be in San Jose16:05
sdakeat the Cisco Ccampus (I thin)16:05
sdakeI Think16:05
sdakethe cisco campus is enormous so I'm trying to get a  PDF map made so people can figure out where to be16:05
sdakeThe first morning we will start at 9am16:05
sdakebecause dealing with the logistics will take about an hour16:06
sdakethe second morning we will start at 10am16:06
sdakethe technical sessions start at 1016:06
sdakethe second morning we may start the logistical exercise a little earlier, depending on first day experience16:06
sdakeso technical sessions 10-12, 1 hour lunch, 2-5 technical sessions, then dinner at 7:30ish16:07
sdakewe will vote on a dinner place from a selection of palces people local to sjc recommend16:07
mstachowis technical session have planned streaming or something?16:07
sdakeso re the stremaing16:07
sdakethe webex streaming will be difficult16:07
sdakeI can't guarantee a good experience with that16:07
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sdakewe tried that at the magnum midcycle and it really made the meeting less productive imo16:08
sdakebut I recognize not everyone can get visa paperwor done in time16:08
mstachowwhat about recording and publishing it ?16:08
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digao/16:08
sdakethe essions will *not* be recorded to facilitate open communication16:08
sdakehe ydiga16:08
inc0midcycle is about discussion, not presentations16:08
digasdake: got late16:09
sdakeyes technical discussions16:09
mstachowk, thanks16:09
sdakewe will kick off the day with a presentation, rest is all technical16:09
digaokay16:09
sdake45 minute state of olla etc16:09
sdakeany questions?16:09
sdakeif everyone could do me a solid - when I send out the eventbridte invite, plz plz repsond16:10
sdakeI need info for the catering etc16:10
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sdakeand to get badges made ahead of time16:10
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sdakeif you need a visa letter, please contact me offline and I'll get with the people at csco that can mae that happen16:10
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sdakeany questions?16:10
inc0I don't think visa systems are working now, they have massive failure16:11
digasdake: sounds good to me16:11
sdakeok second announcement16:11
sdakewe want to use the ansible scripts that a bunch of upstream folks are owring on16:11
sdakebut they have licensing prolems (mainy they are gplv3)16:11
sdakethe team has offered to relicense16:11
sdakesamyaple can you add more context plz16:11
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sdakelike a link to the repo and the process to be followed16:12
SamYapleThe openstack shade group is making ansible modules wrapping shade16:12
SamYapleAnsible requires gplv3 licenses, but these modules all havent landed in upstream ansible16:12
SamYapleso they are going to relicense them for our use on the condition that we do not patch them16:12
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SamYapleall patches go to upstream ansible (or the upstream ansible PR for that module)16:13
SamYaplethey are actually happy to have real world use16:13
SamYaplehttps://github.com/ansible/ansible-modules-core16:13
SamYapleThe branches in there contain our desired modules16:13
sdakejust be be clear, we need these in the kolla repo that is hwy the licensing thing matters16:13
sdakebecause they are not yet in ansible proper16:14
SamYaplemainly the keystone peices for user and service creation16:14
digaSamYaple: this means ansible is not fully opensource16:14
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SamYaplediga: i dont know what that means, but we are where we are16:14
sdakediga the gpl and asl are incompatible16:14
sdakeboth are open source16:14
digaokay16:14
sdakeand since they are not compatible we ca't include gpl code in our code base16:14
sdakethe shade group is *REALLY* throwing us a bone here16:14
digaokay16:15
inc0have we contacted them?16:15
sdakeour altnerative is to write all that stuff ourselve16:15
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sdakeyup its a done deal16:15
inc0ok..16:15
Slowerhuh16:15
sdakeminus the changing the repo bits16:15
SamYapletl;dr New ansible modules will be read-only, if you need to file bugs you can contact me or do it directly on the ansible-modules-core repo16:15
sdakeif you see a change to the ansible modules not by samyaple, -2 the change16:15
SamYapleyou can pop a kolla bug and I will handle it from there as well16:16
sdakeany questions?16:16
SamYapleI will make the files readonly so you will really have to try to modify them16:16
sdake#topic Defining our rule-set for approving changes16:16
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sdakewe have never gone through the exercise of defining what our rules are for docker file16:17
sdakes16:17
sdakefor example, should we jam all the run commands into one or keep them separated16:17
sdakeI dont want to have that debate now16:17
sdakewht I'd like to ask of the core reviewer team is to relax review requirements around these sorts of "undefined policies" until either they become defined or become the defacto way we do things16:17
sdakelike check_all-vars - that is a defacto way we do things16:18
inc0https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-style-guidelines maybe let's start draft ideas?16:18
sdakeinc0 we have so much tuff on our plate16:18
sdakeI really dont want to tackle that gold plating now16:18
sdakelets just relax the requirements during the review process16:18
inc0fair enough16:18
sdakewe can gold plate in m if people feel its necessary16:19
sdakeany qs?:)16:19
sdake#topic Straggling changes for Liberty-1 review that need to finish today16:20
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sdake#link https://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/liberty-116:20
sdakeI see lots of green ;)16:20
sdakelots of green 2 days before a release is fantastic!16:21
sdakethere is one purple item (needs review)16:21
sdakethe openvswitch container16:21
sdakesamyaple does that ust need review?16:21
SamYaplethe openvswitch container, yes16:21
SamYaplethe neutron plug agent no16:21
SamYaplethat code isnt done yet but will be today since we have thin agents16:21
inc0anyone really tested ovs?16:21
sdakesam has tested16:21
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sdakeour policy on testing is if the committer tested, we trust they did the job, and if they broke things we will beat them with a stick and not trust their review so lightly in the future16:22
rhalliseydaneyon_, did you get a chance to run cinder?16:22
sdaketo really solve this problem we need the ci gate to check our changes rather then ust our builds16:22
daneyon_rhallisey I have not16:22
rhalliseydaneyon_, I think docker 1.7 has been released.  When you do we can work on adding physical volume support16:23
daneyon_rhallisey I had all sorts of problems trying to run Docker 1.7.16:23
SamYapleconfirmed: docker 1.7 released a week ago16:23
sdakerhallisey did you test the cinder container?16:23
rhalliseysdake, oh ya a ton of times16:23
sdakeok, well that is good enough for now16:23
rhalliseysdake, It worked for me, but I was wondering if anyone else tried it16:24
daneyon_Has anyone tried the official release of 1.7? If so, what are the dets of your base OS?16:24
sdakeagain, we need to solve this problem not via manual testing but getting  the ci to test for us16:24
SamYapledaneyon_: ive been using 1.7 since dev, the official since it dropped16:24
sdakeI have alot of people working on alot of paths to solving the ci problem16:24
sdakeso lets keep that momentum rolling on making the ci system work16:25
sdakerather then manually testing all these things unless absolutely necessary16:25
daneyon_SamYaple I'll touch base with you offline with a couple questions re 1.7. Thanks16:25
SamYapledaneyon_: ack16:25
sdakeunder the bug reports section16:25
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sdakethere are some in progress bugs16:25
sdakethis means a review has been submitted, but not committed16:26
sdakeif your name is attached to one of those can you lin the bug and state whether you will have a review that resolves the problem up today16:26
sdakethe rest I am kicking to liberty-216:26
sdake(just in-progress bugs at this point)16:26
sdake(l2 is 2 days - on the 25th)16:26
sdakeok different approach16:28
sdakehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146397016:28
openstackLaunchpad bug 1463970 in kolla "heat needs to configure service domain" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Harm Weites (harmw)16:28
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sdakerhallisey - finish review process today or kick to l2?16:28
rhalliseyuh let me look16:28
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rhalliseyharmw, should be around later16:29
rhalliseyI think we can make it happen16:29
sdakeharmw https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/146667716:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1466677 in kolla "build script errors out in yum" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Martin André (mandre)16:29
sdakefinish review process today or kick to l2?16:29
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* rhallisey looks16:30
sdakei guess that is mandre not harmw :)16:30
rhalliseyI think kick that16:30
sdakehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/143233616:30
openstackLaunchpad bug 1432336 in kolla "Need add more check var for glance-api" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Paul Bourke (pauldbourke)16:30
rhalliseyI haven't run into it too much16:30
rhalliseythat should be an easy one16:31
rhalliseyif we get a hold of pbouke16:31
rhalliseykeep it16:31
jpeelerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/1463101 just needs a rebase16:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1463101 in kolla "genenv dependent on openssl without verifying its existence" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Harm Weites (harmw)16:31
jmccarthypbourke is away till Friday16:31
rhalliseythat one's good16:32
rhalliseyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/191580/16:32
rhalliseyjust needs rebase16:32
rhalliseyjpeeler, just said that :P16:32
rhalliseysorry i missed that16:32
sdakeok guys let one brain organize the launchpad plz :)16:33
SamYaple"brain"16:33
sdakeso pbourke being away until friday affects https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/143233616:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1432336 in kolla "Need add more check var for glance-api" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Paul Bourke (pauldbourke)16:33
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rhalliseyI think I can have a patch for that really quickly16:33
sdakeanyone able to pick that one up?16:33
rhalliseyya I'll take it16:33
rhalliseylooks like just add a few things to check_required_vars16:34
sdakethanks rhallisey16:34
sdakedidn't htis merge?16:34
sdakehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/146542216:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1465422 in kolla "Heat Stack Causes MariaDB Too Many Connections" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Daneyon Hansen (danehans)16:34
harmwhere I am guys! woohoo16:34
rhalliseyhey!16:35
sdakedanyeon^16:35
sdakehey harmw!16:35
mstachowo/ harmw!16:35
sdakeharmw make sure to read teh logs16:35
harmwyup16:35
sdakeharmw can you rebase 1463101 pls, our release is the 25th (2 days)16:35
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sdakeok any bugs not in the in progress state I am kicking right now to liberty-216:36
sdakeI am putting a 1 minute timer on irc for people to raise objections16:37
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harmwread most of it16:37
harmwok, yea rebasing that is on tonights todo16:37
sdakeok I am kicking all non-in-progress non-complete bugs to l216:38
harmwthe reviewing terms and stuff, excellent, had it on my mind for some time now16:38
sdakesamyaple please be in contact re openvswitch so I can keep the tracer updated16:38
harmwill be reviewing/tsting that in a while sdake16:39
harmwoh no16:39
harmwthts neutron16:39
SamYapleack16:39
sdakethis is the best part of the meeting16:40
harmwshoot16:40
sdake#topic Liberty-1 release announcement16:40
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sdake#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-liberty-1-announcement16:40
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sdakepleae open that up16:41
sdakei'd like to take 10-15 minutes on this no more16:41
harmwI've dropped some quick onelines16:41
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harmwdo we realy want to type the stuff right now or should we sttle with the core, eg. the message we want put out?16:44
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SamYapleI wonder who is making things alphabetical16:46
harmwjeez :p16:47
* SamYaple knows who16:47
SamYaple:D16:47
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rhalliseylol16:47
* mstachow feeling afraid :O16:47
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sdakeharmw yes we need to type it out now16:53
sdakeits team building16:53
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sdakebut i think we are done16:53
harmwyea np16:53
harmwthink so to :)16:53
sdakeI think I had our milestone #2 planning net up in the agenda, but that will have to wait for next week16:54
jmccarthyIs it worth it to write in full CI vs the abbreviation ?16:54
sdake#topic open items16:54
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sdakejmccarthy people will know what CI is16:54
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jmccarthy=)16:54
harmwanyone got something for the open items?16:55
rhalliseygot nothin16:55
sdakecan someone put in that link for the anible review16:55
sdakeI cant seem to find it atm16:55
harmwgimme a sec16:55
SamYaplethe initial keystone commit?16:56
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sdakesamyaple the floor is yours for 4 minutes16:56
SamYaplehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/192544/16:56
SamYapleThat has the initial commit for keystone and will be used as a template for other containers and ansible roles16:57
SamYaplethis affects everyone so please review it16:57
harmwlets include that, as an example of work16:57
harmwoh, sorry16:57
SamYapleThe main change for crudini/config-internal people will be the change of start.sh to config-internal.sh16:57
SamYapleIt is exec so the flow does not change at all16:58
SamYapleBut nevertheless, have a look and see if you have an issue with it16:58
SamYapleFor those planning to use ansible, this commit can be your template for the other openstack services16:58
inc0SamYaple, maybe we should also separate crudini's conf file generation and things like db init, pki setup, tenant creation16:58
harmwok16:58
harmwgot that16:58
rhalliseyI'll review it in more depth later16:59
sdakeinc0 idea is minimum change16:59
harmwSamYaple: when will you drop the WIP-tag?16:59
sdaketo crudini16:59
SamYapleharmw: when all the pieces are in place, ansible modules and all16:59
SamYaplebasically as soon as the shade team gives us the modules relicensed16:59
harmwok, I can wait for that to happen :) (well, no realy but he)17:00
SamYapleat that point it should be runnable17:00
SamYaplerollover to #kolla sdake?17:00
sdakesure17:00
sdake#endmeeting17:00
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Nikolay_Stis anybody here for log working group meeting?19:58
jokke_yes19:58
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jokke_in couple of mins19:58
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Nikolay_Stjokke_: hi :)19:59
jokke_hi there19:59
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jokke_#startmeeting log-wg19:59
openstackMeeting started Wed Jun 24 19:59:57 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jokke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:59
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'log_wg'20:00
jokke_o/20:00
bknudsonhi20:00
Nikolay_St\0/20:00
nkrinnerhi20:00
jokke_rocky had other things to attend today so we'll go ahead without her20:01
jokke_#topic request-id update20:01
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Nikolay_StI'm a little bit out of track and can't find any information in wiki :(20:01
dhellmanno/20:02
jokke_hi dhellmann sorry, I totally forgot our courtesy pings :(20:02
dhellmannjokke_: np, I have an alarm, I was just distracted20:03
jokke_:)20:03
jokke_so we had good discussion around the request-id and the x-project spec process yesterday on the x-project meeting20:03
jokke_please go and read the logs.20:04
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jokke_I think it's pointless for us to repeat that, _but_ there is good lesson to learn20:04
jokke_split to smaller digestable pieces and do not try to circumvent the process even if it's not written20:05
dhellmannI'm glad to see agreement about how we can start phase 1 of that work20:06
jokke_#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/crossproject/2015/crossproject.2015-06-23-21.03.log.txt20:06
jokke_dhellmann: yes! so am I20:06
bknudsonso phase 1 is having the client libs provide a function to return the request ID?20:06
jokke_bknudson: correct ... so first step is to make sure that if our clients get request ID they actually also return it to the user20:07
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bknudsonwe'll need that ... then the servers can log it , CLI can print it , GUI can display it , etc.20:08
jokke_yup and I'm happy that we got that chipped out of the big blop20:09
jokke_smaller pieces are easier to deal with20:09
bknudsonso next is x-project spec just for that?20:10
bknudsonsince we'll want the same API in all the libs20:10
jokke_bknudson: at least tpatil promised to revisit the x-project spec to the approach of splitting these work items to separate phases20:11
jokke_I hope he will do just client spec and not try to get everything under the same one20:11
bknudsonok. this will be plenty of work anyways20:12
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jokke_I have few good ideas on my mind how this can alone break the gate ;)20:13
jokke_That was only actual topic I had for today. Anyone else have something worth of it's topic or do I swap to open discussion?20:15
jokke_#topic open discussion20:15
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Nikolay_Stsure20:15
bknudsonI haven't had much time to look at logging stuff. Hopefully will this release.20:16
bknudsonthere's too many other issues20:16
Nikolay_Stthe wiki pages looks like they're not updated for a long time20:16
dhellmannNikolay_St: wiki pages?20:16
Nikolay_Stdhellmann: sorry, I can be lost in termins20:16
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jokke_unfortunately I have been really tightly tied up to internal stuff lately ... I hope it will ease up soon20:17
dhellmannNikolay_St: no, I mean, which ones? :-)20:17
Nikolay_Stdhellmann: let me look20:17
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dhellmannNikolay_St: it is possible some of the wiki content has moved to other places, and we need to change those pages to point to the new home for the information20:17
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Nikolay_Stdhellmann: may be20:18
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jokke_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/log-wg-meeting-agenda20:20
jokke_Lets start to collect agenda on etherpad20:21
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jokke_ok anything else or do we just wrap up early today?20:23
* dhellmann has been distracted with the milestone this week20:23
jokke_dhellmann: that's ok20:23
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jokke_I've seen you guys being busy there and thanks to all of you actually dedicating the time for that20:24
jokke_ok, lets wrap up, thanks guys20:25
jokke_#endmeeting20:25
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