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| nikhil_k_ | sigmavirus24_awa: rosmaita flaper87 mclaren: around? | 14:01 |
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| flaper87 | o/. | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:02 |
| nikhil_k_ | #startmeeting glance drivers | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 18 14:02:13 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil_k_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance drivers)" | 14:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance_drivers' | 14:02 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | flaper87: i am running behind, have not got comments for you yet | 14:02 |
| nikhil_k_ | #topic agenda | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: glance drivers)" | 14:02 | |
| nikhil_k_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-drivers-meeting-agenda | 14:02 |
| nikhil_k_ | mfedosin: I guess the topis are from you | 14:02 |
| sigmavirus24_awa | o/ | 14:02 |
| mfedosin | yep | 14:02 |
| nikhil_k_ | if you wanna go ahead? | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita:np :) | 14:02 |
| flaper87 | I do have 2 specs requests but mfedosin please, go ahead | 14:02 |
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| nikhil_k_ | #topic multithreading support | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "multithreading support (Meeting topic: glance drivers)" | 14:03 | |
| mfedosin | so, my first question is about multithreading in swift | 14:03 |
| nikhil_k_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207075/ | 14:03 |
| mfedosin | I wrote a spec for this and had several comments from swift team | 14:03 |
| mfedosin | about using SLO by default, mainly | 14:03 |
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| sigmavirus24_awa | mfedosin: you mean in the swift store right? ;) | 14:04 |
| nikhil_k_ | we still have the concurrency issue with dlos ? | 14:04 |
| mfedosin | afair, we discuss this feature on the last summit and it was stated as 'ok' :) | 14:04 |
| mfedosin | sigmavirus24_awa, yes, sure | 14:04 |
| mfedosin | I told you about that, remember? | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | I need to read the spec in detail but I'd definitely like to see mclaren's comments on it since he's got experience with that store | 14:05 |
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| mfedosin | I made several tests and the performance was increased several times on upload | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: using SLO ? | 14:06 |
| mfedosin | yesterday they gave me a small hardware cluster to test it more detailed | 14:06 |
| mfedosin | flaper87, you can read Samuel comment there about SLO | 14:06 |
| mfedosin | (he called us squirrels, btw) | 14:06 |
| sigmavirus24_awa | mfedosin: your performance note in the spec seems odd | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: I will read it | 14:07 |
| sigmavirus24_awa | a multithreaded 10 GB upload can take as long as 40 minutes? | 14:07 |
| sigmavirus24_awa | or are 6-30/2-40 not ranges? | 14:07 |
| sigmavirus24_awa | is that 6 minutes, 30 seconds? | 14:07 |
| sigmavirus24_awa | 2 minutes 40 seconds? | 14:07 |
| sigmavirus24_awa | if so, please be more explicit about that, it doesn't read that well to me | 14:08 |
| mfedosin | sigmavirus24_awa, when I tested it on Juno it was 6 minutes and 30 seconds | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | aaaaaaaaaaahhh | 14:08 |
| nikhil_k_ | guess, that's something on action item to update the spec | 14:08 |
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| mfedosin | but when I used multithreading it was like 2 minutes and 40 seconds | 14:08 |
| nikhil_k_ | mfedosin: the config will have to be in the store repo to reduce the redundancy and outofsycn issues with other possible clients consuming it | 14:09 |
| nikhil_k_ | mfedosin: the performance stats may need the following | 14:09 |
| nikhil_k_ | 1. total concurrent image uploads at a given time | 14:09 |
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| nikhil_k_ | 2. total number of objs in the container already present at the time of tests | 14:10 |
| nikhil_k_ | 3. n/w b/w provisioning for the tests | 14:10 |
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| nikhil_k_ | 4. tradeoffs seen while uploading with different thread numbers | 14:10 |
| nikhil_k_ | 5. image sizes that this was tested on | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | as I mentioned they gave me a cluster only yeasterday, so was not able to perform all the tests, but for sure I will do that in the near future | 14:11 |
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| flaper87 | mfedosin: np, I think it's a good start and what nikhil_k_ proposed makes sense to have on the spec | 14:11 |
| nikhil_k_ | yeah, np. these are suggestions as the performance is a very custom parameter | 14:11 |
| sigmavirus24_awa | mfedosin: yeah please make that more explicit that would be super helpful because I think most people will read those as ranges | 14:11 |
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| flaper87 | sigmavirus24: YOU ARE HERE NOW!!!! | 14:11 |
| * flaper87 stfu | 14:12 | |
| nikhil_k_ | mfedosin: guess, we have something to start on | 14:12 |
| sigmavirus24 | lol | 14:12 |
| nikhil_k_ | should we move on to next one? | 14:12 |
| sigmavirus24 | flaper87: I had an IRC client connected with this nick on a different laptop | 14:12 |
| sigmavirus24 | 1st world problems right there | 14:12 |
| mfedosin | I don't mind | 14:12 |
| nikhil_k_ | thanks | 14:12 |
| nikhil_k_ | #topic list of available storage shemes | 14:12 |
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| nikhil_k_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207063/ | 14:12 |
| nikhil_k_ | mfedosin: that's yours again, i sup | 14:13 |
| mfedosin | if you can please add all of these suggestions to my spec | 14:13 |
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| mfedosin | I hoped that Timur from Horizon joined too | 14:13 |
| mfedosin | but he's not available | 14:13 |
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| mfedosin | the main thing that Horizon needs a list of available store shemes to download images from | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | to be completely honest, I'm not very keen on having this kind of information disclosed by the API :/ | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | but I understand the use-case | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | and it's not really harmful | 14:14 |
| nikhil_k_ | mfedosin: umm, I am not sure how I totally feel about it. it looks good at the first impression but there may be gotchas that I don't recall | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k_: yeah, my exact feelings | 14:15 |
| nikhil_k_ | racy? | 14:15 |
| mfedosin | racy? | 14:15 |
| nikhil_k_ | may be client caches what's in glance api call and then assumes the store availability, possibly a deploy can change it | 14:15 |
| * flaper87 races | 14:16 | |
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| nikhil_k_ | also, the store capabilities would need to be exposed | 14:16 |
| nikhil_k_ | likely acls :P | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | mmh, yeah. One other thing is that we'd be disclosing deployment-specific information | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | yup | 14:16 |
| nikhil_k_ | some may be read only, some r/w | 14:16 |
| * flaper87 needs to think this through | 14:17 | |
| flaper87 | I'm not fully opposed but I gotta put some thoughts on it | 14:17 |
| nikhil_k_ | agreed | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | That based on the assumption I know how to think | 14:17 |
| nikhil_k_ | lol | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:17 |
| mfedosin | nikhil_k_, it doesn't matter about read-only, because store will be used to download image only | 14:17 |
| mfedosin | my another suggestion to write this information in error message | 14:18 |
| nikhil_k_ | I see. the motivation para would benefit from incl it :) | 14:18 |
| mfedosin | Like 'Upload from this external source is not supported. List of available sources are: ' | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: but then we'll have people doing random posts to get the list of stores | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | which is not idea | 14:18 |
| sigmavirus24 | yeah | 14:19 |
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| flaper87 | We already return images' schema | 14:19 |
| sigmavirus24 | I don't like this at all. I feel like it's exposing more detail than most people need | 14:19 |
| mfedosin | flaper87, but there won't be new api call | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | lets see how we can play with that, if we really need this | 14:19 |
| sigmavirus24 | I'd need to see people actually *need*ing this in Horizon rather than thinking they need it | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | mfedosin: did you withdraw the spec to make this an api call? | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | sigmavirus24: +1 | 14:19 |
| sigmavirus24 | Like are there actual user studies from the Horizon team showing that people absolutely need this and have really good reasoning for it | 14:19 |
| sigmavirus24 | If not, are these just "power" users asking for it | 14:20 |
| sigmavirus24 | I put "power" in quotes because there are never any real "power" users as far as I'm concerned. just people who break things and then whine about it | 14:20 |
| flaper87 | The cases where I think this could be useful are those that need to interact with locations | 14:20 |
| mfedosin | there are several customers requests for this | 14:20 |
| flaper87 | which is something that users from outside the cloud shouldn't do, IMHO. | 14:20 |
| sigmavirus24 | mfedosin: the customer is not always right | 14:21 |
| nikhil_k_ | so, why do we need to list available schemas for download if the location is exposed? | 14:21 |
| mfedosin | because they wanted to create images from ftp, but it's not supported by glance_store | 14:21 |
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| nikhil_k_ | it might be useful for uploads with lack of awareness | 14:21 |
| nikhil_k_ | that's not download | 14:21 |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: I think that's lack of knowledge of what the cloud you're sitting on top of provides | 14:21 |
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| flaper87 | which is not Glance's fault | 14:21 |
| sigmavirus24 | that's the cloud provider's fault | 14:21 |
| sigmavirus24 | but also, what nikhil_k_ said | 14:22 |
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| flaper87 | :) | 14:22 |
| sigmavirus24 | that's not download | 14:22 |
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| nikhil_k_ | yeah, I think let's have horizon people request this clearly here or on ml | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | i am really confused, the spec says the call will be allowed for people who can create images | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | so that's not read only | 14:22 |
| sigmavirus24 | And let's have horizon people back this up with a study that shows the real use-cases this provides rather than "I tried to upload using a rando url and it failed" | 14:22 |
| flaper87 | An update on the spec wouldn't be bad | 14:22 |
| flaper87 | that'd be a good start | 14:23 |
| mfedosin | the actual issue to prevent users from creating images from wrong sources | 14:23 |
| nikhil_k_ | would be good to have some weight on criticality of this change, use cases supporting it and scope of change (like we should state if this is going to be download only) | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | To have more details and to understand the problem it tries to solve better | 14:23 |
| mfedosin | I'll give a link to the bug | 14:23 |
| sigmavirus24 | == flaper87 | 14:23 |
| mfedosin | wait a sec please | 14:23 |
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| nikhil_k_ | flaper87: you had 2 specs? | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | yup, pasted on the etherpad | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | but I can paste them here | 14:24 |
| nikhil_k_ | I think we can cover one today and may be another on -glance | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | the first one should be straightforward | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | it's small and it's got 2 +2s | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | well, 1 if we don't count mine | 14:24 |
| nikhil_k_ | oh yeah, I was about to approve it yday :) | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | The code has been reviewed by sigmavirus24 and myself too | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | and the second one is tasks but we can move to -glance for that | 14:24 |
| mfedosin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1476657 | 14:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1476657 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Attempt to upload image via ftp makes queued image" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Vlad Okhrimenko (vokhrimenko) | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | if you folks have time now | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | otherwise, I'll just blame rosmaita | 14:24 |
| nikhil_k_ | :) | 14:25 |
| nikhil_k_ | I can be available if others are | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | i can be available | 14:25 |
| nikhil_k_ | good to have it in the open while people are around | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | awesome, lets do it there | 14:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | I can be available | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | nice nice | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k_: it'd be cool to approve the S3 one since it's tiny | 14:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | mfedosin: so I disagree that the spec you've written is the right fix for that bug | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | I'm done | 14:25 |
| nikhil_k_ | surely | 14:25 |
| nikhil_k_ | flaper87: if there are amends, we can follow up in a commit by whoever wants to | 14:26 |
| sigmavirus24 | I can see having Glance return a 4xx error if the scheme is unsupported, but I see no reason to return a list of available schemes as a new endpoint | 14:26 |
| sigmavirus24 | That said, the best solution to that bug is to make an FTPStore =P | 14:26 |
| nikhil_k_ | sigmavirus24: new endpoint?? | 14:26 |
| mfedosin | sigmavirus24, of course not - fix for this bug is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204105/, but they have to hardcode it to http/https | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | nikhil_k_: +2 | 14:27 |
| nikhil_k_ | I agree to ftp store | 14:27 |
| nikhil_k_ | pound action to mfedosin :P | 14:27 |
| nikhil_k_ | mfedosin: yeah, I see what sigmavirus24 is saying | 14:28 |
| nikhil_k_ | the safer call is to see if a store type is supported or not | 14:28 |
| sigmavirus24 | mfedosin: the spec we're discussing wants to add a new endpoint /v2/available_schemes | 14:28 |
| nikhil_k_ | hmm, that looks more like a url string in the openstack lingo to me | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | :P | 14:28 |
| mfedosin | sigmavirus24, I though it's a good solution | 14:29 |
| sigmavirus24 | Anyway we're almost out of time | 14:29 |
| mfedosin | are there others? | 14:29 |
| sigmavirus24 | We can discuss this in -glance | 14:29 |
| nikhil_k_ | I always get confused when people refer to endpoint for non-keystone things | 14:29 |
| nikhil_k_ | sorry :P | 14:29 |
| mfedosin | okay, thanks all for your attention | 14:29 |
| nikhil_k_ | okay, we are out of time now. Let's continue flaper87's spec first on -glance | 14:30 |
| nikhil_k_ | THanks mfedosin | 14:30 |
| nikhil_k_ | #endmeeting | 14:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 18 14:30:08 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2015/glance_drivers.2015-08-18-14.02.html | 14:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2015/glance_drivers.2015-08-18-14.02.txt | 14:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2015/glance_drivers.2015-08-18-14.02.log.html | 14:30 |
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| iurygregory | hey EmilienM, if the configuration for "openid" is set in the keystone virtual host file we can use the puppet-keystone right? | 14:57 |
| EmilienM | iurygregory: wrong channel I guess | 14:57 |
| iurygregory | sorry =X | 14:58 |
| EmilienM | :) | 14:58 |
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| spredzy | o/ | 14:59 |
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| iurygregory | o/ | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 18 15:00:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | #link agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20150818 | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | how is here today? | 15:00 |
| mwhahaha | hi | 15:00 |
| EmilienM | who* | 15:00 |
| iurygregory | me o/ | 15:00 |
| spredzy | o/ | 15:00 |
| angdraug | o/ | 15:00 |
| ashtokolov_ | hi | 15:00 |
| IBerezovskiy | hi | 15:01 |
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| EmilienM | #topic Review past action items | 15:01 |
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| EmilienM | 1/ sbadia & cody launch a initial msync on all our modules | 15:02 |
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| EmilienM | it's done: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:msync_rspec_version,n,z | 15:02 |
| xarses | o/ | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | 2/ reviewing iurygregory's blueprint https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190361/ -> DONE | 15:02 |
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| iurygregory | thanks o/ | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | and 3/ continue keystone domains discussion on operators ml | 15:03 |
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| EmilienM | I might have missed that one | 15:03 |
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| EmilienM | so we have a couple of announcements regarding CI | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | #topic announcements | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:03 | |
| EmilienM | #info CI bumped to Liberty, except for Heat, Neutron and Ironic | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | Heat & Ironic packages are now broken in trusty/liberty-staging | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | I poked maintainers and they are on it | 15:04 |
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| sbadia | hi (sorry for the delay) | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | for Neutron, I still miss +A on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209294/ | 15:04 |
| _ody | o/ | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | #action core reviewers to approve liberty bump for puppet-neutron https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209294/ | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | sbadia: maybe you can look today at this ^ | 15:05 |
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| sbadia | EmilienM: ack | 15:05 |
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| EmilienM | #info Logs available in CI jobs | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | that is super useful to debug OpenStack failures and also warning (when parameters are deprecated, etc) | 15:06 |
| EmilienM | so if you get -1 from CI, please look at CI lobs (in logs directory) | 15:06 |
| iurygregory | lobs? | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | anything you want to change in logs should happen here: https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/jenkins/scripts/copy_puppet_logs.sh | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | iurygregory: logs* (typo) | 15:07 |
| iurygregory | ^^ | 15:07 |
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| EmilienM | pabelanger and crinkle are not present so we can't discuss about puppet-openstack-integration - I'll postpone the topic and hopefully make progress this week or so | 15:07 |
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| EmilienM | #topic wsgi testing in acceptance | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "wsgi testing in acceptance (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:08 | |
| EmilienM | so I ran a thread about replace eventlet by wsgi testing in Liberty? | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | I'll wait a bit and send a last feedback request | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | otherwise I'll propose the patches | 15:09 |
| angdraug | we've run into a number of problems with wsgi on kilo at scale | 15:10 |
| angdraug | e.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1484836 | 15:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1484836 in Keystone "apache failed to restart with keystone wsgi app" [Undecided,New] | 15:10 |
| iurygregory | wow =/ | 15:10 |
| angdraug | also https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1485644 | 15:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1485644 in Fuel for OpenStack "Keystone wsgi runs out of connections limits for the apache proces" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Alex Schultz (alex-schultz) | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | angdraug: interesting | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | angdraug: wsgi is still the way to go it seems | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | angdraug: isn't ? | 15:11 |
| angdraug | unfortunately yes | 15:11 |
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| angdraug | not that anyone's happy with eventlet | 15:11 |
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| angdraug | topic? | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | lol | 15:12 |
| iurygregory | what? o.o | 15:12 |
| mwhahaha | pesky servers | 15:13 |
| angdraug | are we supposed to startmeeting again? | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | iurygregory: I guess there is no need to discuss about federation | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | angdraug: I have no idea | 15:13 |
| iurygregory | I agree EmilienM ^^ | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 15:13 |
| openstack | EmilienM: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | cool | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | it's still there | 15:13 |
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| sgolovatiuk | Hi guys | 15:14 |
| angdraug | sgolovatiuk: do you want share the latest on our wsgi troubles? | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | before I run Open Discussion , Bugs & reviews - do we have any other topic to discuss? | 15:14 |
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| EmilienM | angdraug: I don't know if Puppet group can help in that | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | it's rather Keystone bugs, isn't? | 15:15 |
| angdraug | just watch out of these kind of issues in CI | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | they are good to know | 15:15 |
| angdraug | I was thinking maybe wait for keystone to figure them out before switching over | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | angdraug: that's a good feedback | 15:15 |
| angdraug | nothing else on the topic from me | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | #action angdraug to share negative feedback on current state of keystone/WSGI over the Mailing list, using the thread about acceptance | 15:16 |
| spredzy | If there is any core around that can validate https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202574/ we could move forward with this effort | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: wait for open discussion :) | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | #topic open discussion, bugs, reviews | 15:16 |
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| EmilienM | spredzy: go ahead :) lol | 15:17 |
| spredzy | ahah sorry | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | so here you can rise any outstanding bug or review | 15:17 |
| spredzy | If there is any core around that can validate https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202574/ we could move forward with this effort | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | I only see sbadia online today | 15:17 |
| spredzy | code have acceptance test https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213060/ | 15:17 |
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| EmilienM | though I would have liked to see clayton's feedback | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | he was involved in that work AFIK | 15:18 |
| spredzy | yep he is | 15:18 |
| spredzy | lets bring the conversation later on #puppet-openstack | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: we need to make sure he has an eye before merging | 15:18 |
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| skolekonov | Hi guys, could you please give the second +2 on my patches? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210374/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202542/ | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | skolekonov: are you going to patch other modules for this feature? | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | skolekonov: the stderr | 15:19 |
| spredzy | EmilienM, sounds correct to me | 15:19 |
| skolekonov | EmilienM, 8 patches are merged already | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | skolekonov: cool | 15:19 |
| EmilienM | skolekonov: also, when https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202542/ is merged - please backport to kilo, ok? | 15:19 |
| skolekonov | I'll do | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | skolekonov: thx | 15:20 |
| IBerezovskiy | can I ask to pay attention on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202788/ ? | 15:21 |
| angdraug | what can we do about https://review.openstack.org/198695 ? | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | IBerezovskiy: oh nova network :) | 15:21 |
| IBerezovskiy | EmilienM, yep | 15:21 |
| sbadia | héhé :D | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | IBerezovskiy: +2 | 15:22 |
| IBerezovskiy | EmilienM, thanks! | 15:22 |
| angdraug | swift ring rebalance, nag nag | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | angdraug: I talked to christian, he's buy in a meeting and will look at this today or tomorrow | 15:22 |
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| angdraug | thanks! | 15:23 |
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| EmilienM | angdraug: I prefer to wait his feedback since what you're doing is very sensible | 15:23 |
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| angdraug | so that's why it was waiting for review for so long? | 15:23 |
| angdraug | that makes sense | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | angdraug: well, people are in holidays | 15:24 |
| angdraug | but please leave a comment on review that you need a specific expert's opinion | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | usually, reviews take more time in August | 15:24 |
| angdraug | so that we know why it's not being touched | 15:24 |
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| EmilienM | angdraug: ok, will do | 15:24 |
| angdraug | thanks | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | angdraug: in that patch, it's pretty natural to wait for Christian, since he already reviewed it | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | so usually, other reviewers wait to see how the discussion happens | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | I have no clue about rings in Swift | 15:25 |
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| angdraug | the discussion is more about idempotency of the patch | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | do we have anything else for today? | 15:25 |
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| EmilienM | I guess no | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | have a great day | 15:27 |
| spredzy | thank you everyone | 15:27 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 15:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 18 15:27:16 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-08-18-15.00.html | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-08-18-15.00.txt | 15:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-08-18-15.00.log.html | 15:27 |
| sbadia | thanks all! | 15:27 |
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| mugsie | o/ | 16:01 |
| mugsie | who's here? | 16:01 |
| xgerman | o/ | 16:01 |
| ag__ | . | 16:02 |
| bharath | o/ | 16:02 |
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| sdake_ | o/ | 16:03 |
| johnsom | o/ | 16:03 |
| KunalGandhi | o/ | 16:03 |
| mugsie | OK | 16:03 |
| mugsie | #startmeeting Kosmos | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 18 16:03:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Kosmos)" | 16:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kosmos' | 16:03 |
| mugsie | #topic Polaris Code https://github.com/polaris-gslb/polaris-core | 16:04 |
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| mugsie | #link https://github.com/polaris-gslb/polaris-core | 16:04 |
| mugsie | did anyone get a chance to look at ^? | 16:04 |
| KunalGandhi | i looked at briefly and had a few questions | 16:04 |
| johnsom | I also had a brief look | 16:05 |
| mugsie | (also, as a note - I am at the Designate mid-cycle, so I may get distracted for a few minutes from time to time) | 16:05 |
| KunalGandhi | does this code include a monitoring piece for to monitor the regional VIP's ? | 16:05 |
| mugsie | I think it looks interesting - I think it might present issues for dynamic reloading of end points to test | 16:06 |
| mugsie | KunalGandhi: yup - https://github.com/polaris-gslb/polaris-core/tree/master/polaris/health/core | 16:06 |
| mugsie | https://github.com/polaris-gslb/polaris-core/tree/master/polaris/health is the health checker | 16:06 |
| KunalGandhi | @mugsie .. got it | 16:06 |
| ag__ | what kinda of an issue you see for dynamic reloading | 16:06 |
| mugsie | it loks like it reads from a config file on boot for the list of endpoints? | 16:07 |
| KunalGandhi | seems like it supports http and tcp both, which is good | 16:07 |
| mugsie | we need to add in endpoints without any restart | 16:07 |
| elarson_ | o/ | 16:08 |
| * elarson_ is lurking ;) | 16:08 | |
| johnsom | I worry about the shared memory usage and HA/horizontal scale. | 16:08 |
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| mugsie | ag__: what is your feeling about us usign segments of code? | 16:08 |
| ag__ | yea, it does need a restart to reload endpoints, state is cached though and is unaffected while restart is taking place | 16:09 |
| johnsom | Have we looked at the health checking in Consul? | 16:09 |
| ag__ | mugsie, no special feelings, it's open code | 16:09 |
| KunalGandhi | @ag__ .. does the gslb store the monitors, regional vip info in the database ? | 16:09 |
| mugsie | KunalGandhi: this one reads from a YAML file on disk | 16:10 |
| ag__ | i woould like to re-do it to make config changes dynamicm it'll need some redesign though | 16:10 |
| mugsie | ag__: what licence is this code again? | 16:11 |
| ag__ | well, it's yaml serialized, can be any key/value storage, e.g. json | 16:11 |
| KunalGandhi | ok.. | 16:11 |
| ag__ | bsd-3 | 16:11 |
| mugsie | i think thats OK.. will need to check | 16:11 |
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| mugsie | OK, any other questions on this? | 16:12 |
| ag__ | immediate plan is to collapse monitors to just http and tcp with bunch of parameters | 16:13 |
| KunalGandhi | nope. | 16:13 |
| johnsom | It's pretty slick for a single instance solution. | 16:13 |
| KunalGandhi | @ag__ ... can we run a cluster of these in active/active mode ? | 16:13 |
| ag__ | you mean health tracker or soltuion as a whole? | 16:14 |
| dougwig | Sorry, just got to ops summit. Bubble level traffic here. | 16:14 |
| KunalGandhi | the solution as a whole for HA | 16:14 |
| ag__ | it's just an authoritative dns server | 16:15 |
| mugsie | dougwig: np - I got a hotel right beside the designate one to avoid the traffic :) | 16:15 |
| KunalGandhi | @ag__ .. ok | 16:15 |
| mugsie | KunalGandhi: I dont think that overall we can just use this code | 16:15 |
| ag__ | so any HA considerations apply | 16:15 |
| mugsie | we will need to make changes to move it to an Openstack style API, and add in other things like plugins | 16:16 |
| mugsie | for vendor GSLB appliances | 16:16 |
| ag__ | yea, like we discussed it's probably a matter of writing a small converters health state -> vendor specific format | 16:17 |
| johnsom | mugsie what are your thoughts on the shared memory for health state? I don't want to see a situation where we have 20-50 health checks beating on member nodes. | 16:18 |
| ag__ | johnsom main synchronization process doesn't do much, so it should scale to some degree on a single core... but ofcourse has limits | 16:18 |
| KunalGandhi | @mugsie .. ok.. i think for now i dont have any questions.. maybe down the line once we start integrating it with Kosmos | 16:18 |
| mugsie | johnsom: yeah... I am not sure where the best place to store that is yet... | 16:19 |
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| mugsie | OK - next topic ... | 16:19 |
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| mugsie | #topic Arch Review | 16:20 |
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| mugsie | #link https://github.com/gslb/gslb-specs/pull/4 | 16:20 |
| mugsie | have people looked at this yet? | 16:20 |
| KunalGandhi | i have given a very high level arch diagram, hoping to get a lot of feedback and more details to be added | 16:21 |
| mugsie | I have a few initial pieces of feedback | 16:21 |
| KunalGandhi | ok | 16:21 |
| mugsie | designate is a driver for this# | 16:21 |
| mugsie | so it should be inline | 16:21 |
| mugsie | we also need the status checker to be represented | 16:22 |
| KunalGandhi | the status checker for the healths status of the local VIP's ? | 16:22 |
| mugsie | and I would drop the global_ prefix on the ER diagrm | 16:22 |
| mugsie | yes | 16:22 |
| johnsom | Yeah, we should include the end user in the diagram to highlight the touch points | 16:23 |
| KunalGandhi | the health checker will be in the GSLB right ? | 16:23 |
| mugsie | KunalGandhi: well, it might be | 16:23 |
| mugsie | but it could also be in Kosmos | 16:23 |
| mugsie | and for the default implementation it will be | 16:23 |
| KunalGandhi | so are thinking of using Kosmos as a full GSLB solution ? | 16:24 |
| KunalGandhi | including data and control plane ? | 16:24 |
| KunalGandhi | @mugsie .. ok i will drop the global_ prefix from the er diagram | 16:25 |
| mugsie | KunalGandhi: yeah, as a full solution | 16:25 |
| KunalGandhi | since it is going to be it might be in its own database | 16:25 |
| mugsie | that can be driven by vendor drivers if needed | 16:25 |
| johnsom | +1 for having it's own DB | 16:25 |
| KunalGandhi | @mugsie ... ok.. | 16:25 |
| mugsie | we sould be aim by default to be using Neutron LBaaS in the Regions, and Designate to move traffic by changing DNS entries | 16:26 |
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| mugsie | KunalGandhi: an actuall write up (using the sample rst file would be good as well) | 16:26 |
| KunalGandhi | @mugsie .. makes sense | 16:26 |
| mugsie | I am going to try and get this repo moved to infra later on today | 16:27 |
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| mugsie | so you may need to use gerrit | 16:27 |
| mugsie | but I will tell you when it happens | 16:27 |
| KunalGandhi | so the default gslb-plugin-driver is where we can have other vendor drivers | 16:28 |
| mugsie | yup | 16:28 |
| KunalGandhi | and default driver will use neutron lbaas and designate | 16:28 |
| mugsie | ++ | 16:28 |
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| mugsie | Any other comments? | 16:29 |
| KunalGandhi | @mugsie .. ok understood | 16:29 |
| KunalGandhi | i will update the arch diagram | 16:29 |
| mugsie | ty | 16:29 |
| KunalGandhi | any other feedback in terms of the format | 16:29 |
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| KunalGandhi | of the doc | 16:29 |
| mugsie | I would prefer source files | 16:29 |
| KunalGandhi | i will include a write up and an updated arch diagram | 16:29 |
| mugsie | not just jpgs, if possible | 16:30 |
| mugsie | it is a mistake we made in designate | 16:30 |
| KunalGandhi | source files as in folders (modules) as place holders | 16:30 |
| mugsie | and all our arch diagrams have to be updated by one person now | 16:30 |
| mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 16:31 |
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| mugsie | any off agenda items/ | 16:31 |
| mugsie | ?* | 16:31 |
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| mugsie | going once ... | 16:33 |
| xgerman | guess we are done :-) | 16:33 |
| dougwig | seconded | 16:33 |
| mugsie | OK, thanks everyone! | 16:34 |
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| xgerman | bye | 16:34 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 16:34 |
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