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flaper87#startmeeting Glance14:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct  8 14:01:14 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance)"14:01
flaper87Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, ivasilevskaya, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, 14:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'14:01
nikhilo/14:01
flaper87Courtesy meeting reminder: Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, pkoniszewski, krykowski, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann14:01
jokke_o/14:01
bunting o/14:01
rosmaitao/14:01
ativelkovo/14:01
nikhilo/14:01
flaper87w000h000! moar ppl, MOAR PPL14:01
flaper87#topic Agenda14:01
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dshakhrayo/14:02
flaper87we've a short agenda for today14:02
flaper87let's get to it14:02
flaper87#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:02
flaper87#topic Updates Artifacts14:02
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flaper87ativelkov: mfedosin nikhil14:02
flaper87:)14:02
flaper87go crazy14:02
abhishekko/14:02
mfedosino/14:02
ativelkovSo, a quick update14:02
* nikhil stops typing14:03
ativelkovThanks to jokke_ and nikhil we had some discusssions on v3 interoperability14:03
ativelkovAnd I think we've found a good design solution14:03
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flaper87great news14:03
ativelkovThere will be a set of public API calls which are plugin-independnent14:03
ativelkovSo, they will be "def-core" compliant14:04
flaper87that's super important14:04
flaper87is there a link/spec where we can read more about that?14:04
ativelkovAnd the plugin-dependent ("dynamic") APIs may be considered plugin, i.e. the ones intended for the particular project (murano, heat, magnum etc) to interact with glance internally )within a cloud)14:04
ativelkovflaper87: not yet, I am bad in finding time to document things )14:05
nikhilhere's a start14:05
ativelkovWill do that in ML and later that article I am still trying to write14:05
nikhilhttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_artifacts_sub_team/2015/glance_artifacts_sub_team.2015-10-05-14.01.html14:05
flaper87ativelkov: aren't we all? aren't we?14:05
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flaper87:D14:05
flaper87nikhil: thanks14:05
flaper87#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:05
flaper87#undo14:05
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flaper87#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_artifacts_sub_team/2015/glance_artifacts_sub_team.2015-10-05-14.01.html14:05
flaper87ativelkov: nikhil mfedosin question for you guys: Are you planning to have a session at the summit ?14:06
flaper87I didn't see any proposal and it seemed weird14:06
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flaper87#link  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-glance-summit-topics14:06
flaper87proposals go there14:06
flaper87:D14:06
mfedosinI would like to have one14:06
ativelkovThanks :) I'd like to discuss the v3, yup14:06
nikhilI guess that's a question for the session proposals topic. and personally think we should at least have a work session.14:06
flaper87ok, please, add it to that etherpad as we're in the phase of setting up the schedule14:07
rosmaitait would be good to try to get some people from heat and magnum there, too ... want them to get ready to use artifacts14:07
nikhilthanks for the reminder flaper87, yeah we'd ideally have something up already!14:07
nikhil++14:07
flaper87I'd like to hav ethe schedule done by the end of next week14:07
flaper87rosmaita: sounds like a good idea14:07
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flaper87nikhil: ativelkov mfedosin could any of you sync with folks from those team to make sure we can pick a slot that works for at least 1 person of each team?14:08
flaper87:)14:08
flaper87I know, I know. Scheduling things is hard14:08
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nikhilI can work with someone from heat14:08
flaper87nikhil: that's a start, thanks14:08
nikhiland will ping you all if I can reach out to magnum in short time14:08
flaper87ativelkov: mfedosin you guys surely know someone from Murano14:09
rosmaitanikhil: i can reach out to adrian otto14:09
flaper87:)14:09
ativelkovflaper87: I am from murano ;)14:09
ativelkovAnd I'll ping Heat's PTL14:09
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flaper87ativelkov: I know, I forgot to tag that message14:09
nikhilflaper87: so, we are looking at all the proposals listed by early next week? and final it by thursday or so?14:09
mclarenanyone know how magnum plan to use artifacts?14:10
flaper87nikhil: yes, that's the rough plan! If there are not enough proposals, we may come up with something or give those slots back14:10
flaper87ok, lets move on14:10
ativelkovmclaren: I don't know for sure, but I remember Adrian Otto saying that he is looking forward to use it14:10
rosmaitamclaren: not sure, adrian otto was very interested, not sure why14:10
flaper87#topic Updates drivers14:11
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nikhilmclaren:  there were a few small discussions earlier in liberty, we need to come up to sync now once we've a direction for the API14:11
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flaper87On our last meeting, we discussed a couple of topics. One is the inheritable image properties spec in nova14:11
* nikhil shuts up14:11
mclarenok, thanks14:11
flaper87Another one is the spec-lite process14:11
flaper87For that last one, I'll start a thread on the ML to reach out to more people and get feedback from others14:12
flaper87We didn't reach consensus on that process and there's more to be discussed14:12
flaper87Did I forget something important from the last meeting?14:12
flaper87ok, I'll take that as no14:13
flaper87moving on14:13
nikhil#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance_drivers/2015/glance_drivers.2015-10-06-14.01.log.html#l-2414:13
flaper87#topic duplicate exceptions between glance_store and glance bunting14:13
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* flaper87 wonders if that's the same topic we discussed last week (or we didn't discuss it?). Perhaps mclaren started it14:14
flaper87bunting: floor is yours14:14
buntingWhen looking at the bug posted on the agenda I noticed that a few exceptions are duplicated between glance and glance_store14:14
ativelkovwow, that sounds familiar14:14
buntingI was wondering if we should 'merge' these exceptions14:14
ativelkovmfedosin: you worked on that, right?14:14
mfedosinyup14:14
buntingThese are the exceptions that are currently duplicated: paste.openstack.org/show/475612/14:14
nikhilAre you sure we can merge them?14:15
mfedosinbut finally we decided to duplicate handlers in the code14:15
flaper87glance_store is an independent library14:15
flaper87sometimes we just need to catch those exceptions in glance and do something or re-raise14:15
jokke_#link paste.openstack.org/show/475612/14:15
flaper87mmh, perhaps Glance is the one that needs to be cleaned up14:15
mfedosinhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/200000/14:16
mclarenso we have glance.ImageDataNotFound and glance_store.ImageDataNotFound. Any reason we can't just have glance_store ImageDataNotFound?14:16
flaper87mclaren: I don't think there's anything preventing us from doing that14:16
nikhilumm, wait a sec14:16
mfedosinflaper87, it doesn't work, because ImageNotFound can be raised either in glance or in glance_store14:16
flaper87unless I misunderstood14:16
mfedosinso we have to catch them both14:17
nikhilcan those exceptions be used by cache logic and then re-worked?14:17
flaper87mfedosin: ah right, that's the other thing14:17
mclarenglance uses webob exceptions, any reason it can't use glance_store exceptions?14:17
jokke_mfedosin: so what's the problem glance raising glance_store.ImageNotFound?14:17
flaper87mmh, depends on when it is raising that exception14:18
flaper87I think Glance raises ImageNotFound when it's not in the DB14:18
jokke_perhaps we should spinn off new lib called glance_exceptions :P14:18
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flaper87in which case I don't think it should raise glance_store's exception14:18
flaper87but my memory is bad and I need to read the code again14:19
mfedosinbut not ImageNotFound - just NotFound. We have to fix it in million places14:19
nikhileh14:19
nikhilNotFound sounds like a parent exception14:19
nikhilcommon for different assets -- tasks, metadefs etc14:19
nikhilmembers..14:20
flaper87bunting: I think the conclusion of the above is: ppl are not against you refactoring that code but there will likely be comments on the review (unless you find issues that won't allow you to move forward)14:20
buntingflaper87: Thats, fine its just pointed out its odd we have the same exception twice :p14:20
mclarenyeah, it's probably a case of we shouldn't start from here :-) (ie with 29 duplicate exception names)14:20
nikhilWhile I think that we can reduce the duplicate exceptions, I don't think we can get rid of all of them14:20
nikhilmclaren: yea14:21
flaper87nikhil: I agree14:21
flaper87let's let bunting dig more into this14:21
jokke_I think first question is do we actually raise them all from both?14:21
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flaper87it sounds like a good clean up14:21
jokke_or how much that is still remains of the separation and just copy over14:21
mfedosinLet me explain14:21
flaper87or attempt to14:21
mfedosinNotFound from here https://github.com/openstack/glance_store/blob/master/glance_store/exceptions.py#L6614:22
mfedosinis not exactly the same as NotFoundFrom here https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/common/exception.py14:22
mfedosinit's more identical to https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/common/exception.py#L33414:22
flaper87yeah, I think ppl get that. The question is not w.r.t the base exceptions but the ones inheriting from those that are duplicated14:23
mfedosinso we can't use store's exception in Glance everywhere14:23
mclarensure, if they have different uses that's ok.14:23
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flaper87IMHo, glance shouldn't be raising glance_store exceptions. re-raising, fine. Raising from scratch, nope.14:24
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nikhil++14:24
ativelkovagree14:24
mfedosinand the only one solution we found was duplicate them in the code. it's dirty, but it works14:24
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mclarenwe may be at a point where we may just have to live with some confustion around same names14:24
mfedosinlike here https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/api/v2/images.py#L24114:25
flaper87Let's let bunting dig into this if he's willing to14:25
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buntingflaper87: I'm willing to have a look14:25
mclarenI think the question is: if the glance store didn't exist would we have duplicated any particular exception (case by case)?14:25
flaper87bunting: awesome! You just won something14:25
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flaper87I don't know what but something14:25
rosmaitawhisky popcorn14:25
mclarena year's supply of exceptions14:26
flaper87mclaren: we had store in glance and it was the same project so, no, we wouldn't14:26
bunting++14:26
flaper87anyway, we gotta move on :D14:26
flaper87#action bunting to dig into the "Attack of the cloned exceptions"14:26
flaper87#topic Summit Schedule (flaper87)14:26
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mfedosinI was there - it hurts :)14:27
flaper87As hinted before, we gotta get the schedule done!14:27
flaper87The allocations were uploaded to sched.org14:27
flaper87#link http://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/type/glance#.VhZhTc-1RZK14:27
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flaper87and I've used 2 already for topics that we must discuss for sure :D14:27
flaper871 is a fishbowl for the image import workflow refactor14:28
flaper87and the second one (the last work room session) to finilize mitaka priorities14:28
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flaper87The rest of the slots we will all vote for and allocate rooms accordingly14:28
flaper87please, do read the etherpad and add topics14:28
nikhiloh the last work session is booked14:28
flaper87#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-glance-summit-topics14:28
flaper87I probably meant latest14:29
flaper87as in the one on Thursday at 17:2014:29
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* flaper87 can't change the topic of work sessions14:29
flaper87:(14:29
nikhilack14:29
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nikhilyeah, it's on purpose to avoid large participation..14:30
flaper87yup14:30
nikhilwonder if that's still case for tokyo :/14:30
nikhilas they aren't allowing a ton of people to design area14:30
nikhilanyways..14:30
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flaper87if there's something you would like to discuss, please add it to the etherpad14:30
flaper87Last week we'll be closing the schedule14:31
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flaper87#info Glance's summit schedule will be finalized on Thursday 1514:31
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flaper87#info Glance's summit schedule will be finalized on Thursday October, 15th14:31
flaper87questions? concerns? otherwise, we can move on14:32
flaper87I'll take that as a no14:32
flaper87#topic Cleanup old patches http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-October/076232.html (flaper87)14:32
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flaper87I don't mean to go in deep details about this here because that's what the email thread is for14:32
flaper87I just want to make sure people in this meeting know there's that discussion on the mailing list and that there's a workflow that is being planned to be followed14:33
flaper87(at least once at the beginning of mitaka)14:33
jokke_++14:33
mclarenI half followed the thread14:33
nikhilI found cases when people wanted to restore patches and couldn't themselves14:34
flaper87that said, the plans to improve the review bandwidth are different from that thread and they involve other activities14:34
mclarenAre we still planning on marking patches abandoned?14:34
nikhilIt would be best to have a POC for those who wish to do so14:34
nikhil"points" of contact*14:34
flaper87nikhil: is that something we should mention to infra? what cases specifically?14:34
flaper87nikhil: ha! that clears POC in that context14:34
flaper87:D14:34
nikhilflaper87: cases when people were inactive for along time and wanted to restore a patch14:35
nikhillet me get one latest example14:35
flaper87mclaren: as I mentioned, I'd like to run this at least once for mitaka. We'll see how it goes. The feedback on the thread is great!14:35
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flaper87but really, lets keep the discussion on the ML14:36
mclarenIf a patch is still potentially ok (doesn't need a rebase, is passing the tests) will we mark it abandoned?14:36
mclarenoops, ok14:36
nikhileh, can't find it14:37
buntingmclaren: I suggested that we should potentially try reviewing them instead of marking abandoned14:37
flaper87mclaren: no, it'll be set back to not-in-work-in-progress. We can filter those out from the to-WIP list (think I mentioned this in the thread)14:37
nikhilhmm, this one14:37
nikhil#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206120/14:37
flaper87bunting: and I told you that's the goal :D14:37
* mclaren will go back and read the thread14:37
flaper87that's one of the points of this process14:37
buntingflaper87: Yeah, just mentioning as he said it half read it :p14:37
flaper87I mean, identify those patches and move them forward14:37
flaper87nikhil: thanks, I'll read through and try to understand why restoring it was not possible14:38
flaper87perhaps is because of the -2?14:39
* flaper87 shrugs14:39
flaper87ok, please, chime in! This is important too.14:39
flaper87moving on14:39
flaper87#topic image import refactor is ready for discussion: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232371/(rosmaita)14:39
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flaper87rosmaita: want to say something? or just a heads up?14:40
rosmaitajust a heads up14:40
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flaper87That spec will likely require several iterations. It'd be great if ppl interested could read it and comment on it14:40
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mclarenthanks for that rosmaita14:40
rosmaitayes, i expect to be going through many patches14:41
flaper87Things that will be discussed at the summit on that session depend on this spec14:41
* jokke_ did first read through today14:41
mclarenit's ok to comment on it now?14:41
rosmaitamclaren: def want your help, too14:41
rosmaitayes14:41
jokke_thank rosmaita for takin the time to put it together14:41
flaper87and it's a key part of Glance14:41
* mclaren is chomping at the bit14:41
flaper87And, of course, thanks rosmaita for taking the time to write this and leading the session.14:41
* rosmaita blushes14:42
flaper87you definitely will get whisky popcorn14:42
rosmaitayay!14:42
jokke_+s14:42
rosmaitaor a year's supply of exceptions14:42
flaper87ok14:42
flaper87rosmaita: you'll have to fight bunting for that14:42
buntingrosmaita: thats my prise ;)14:42
flaper87HA! see?14:42
flaper87:D14:42
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rosmaitai imagine there's plenty to go around14:43
flaper87ok, moving on14:43
flaper87#topic Open Discussion14:43
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flaper87I think we'll have good attendance this year at the summit14:43
flaper87that's awesome!14:43
flaper87Lunch ?14:43
ativelkov++14:44
nikhilI see that rosmaita proposed a cross-project topic here:14:44
flaper87Or pop-corn party?14:44
nikhil#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-glance-summit-topics14:44
nikhilis that approved yet rosmaita ?14:44
nikhilline 8314:44
flaper87cross-project discussion will happen next week14:44
nikhiloh right, thanks14:44
ativelkovI have a small topic14:45
flaper87Monday 20:00 UTC we'll discuss topics, Tuesday at the TC meeting the votes14:45
nikhilTC needs to be formed completely..14:45
flaper87right14:45
flaper87ativelkov: shoot14:45
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flaper87I heard bears are going hunting in Russia now14:45
flaper87is that what you want to talk about?14:45
ativelkovnope )14:45
flaper87awwww :(14:46
ativelkovDo you know Openstack:Now newletter?14:46
nikhilI wonder if we should have that topic irrespective of what TC decides.. in Glance if nowhere else..14:46
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flaper87nikhil: oh, mmh, I thought that was implicit, tbh14:46
flaper87ut it's good you brought it up14:46
nikhil:)14:46
flaper87I'd agree with that14:46
flaper87we still have slots14:47
flaper87Also, if there are free work sessions, I'd like us to use them to discuss the import workflow further14:47
flaper87I've the feeling that fishbowl won't be enough14:47
flaper87and a further face to face discussion would be useful14:47
nikhilI see this page still have liberty etherpads14:48
nikhil#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Planning14:48
nikhilhas*14:48
flaper87ativelkov: nope :/14:48
nikhilflaper87: totally. +1 on more time..14:48
ativelkovNext week there will be some kind of a "panel" discussion (online, google hangouts, I guess) about the "community app catalog". And the organizers are looking for particpants14:48
flaper87nikhil: yup, it hasn't been updated yet. Some projects are still figuring the schedules out, I guess that's probably why14:49
* flaper87 shrugs14:49
nikhilI see14:49
nikhilativelkov: where's the signup list?14:49
ativelkovThere is no list, but they asked me to bring somebody from glance :)14:50
nikhilI remember we wanting to have some discussion with them.14:50
flaper87ativelkov: link?14:50
nikhilI am willing to sign up.14:50
flaper87if it's in a reasonable time, I might attend as well14:50
ativelkovThere is no link (yet), they dodn't announce the time, as they are trying to gree with the particpants14:50
flaper87ativelkov: ok14:51
flaper87let folks know in -glance when you have that info :D14:51
ativelkovThey are trying to invite the present and fromer Heat's PTLs - so, if flaper87 and nikhil can join, that would be awesome14:51
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flaper87ativelkov: I'm happy to14:51
flaper87just need to make sure it's doable time-wise :D14:51
ativelkovAlso there will be somebody from Murano - and the PTL of the comunity app catalog, of course14:52
nikhilativelkov: I can def join. Please include me in the emails, lists, links :)14:52
ativelkovsure14:52
flaper87nikhil: you missed post-cards14:52
nikhilativelkov: someone from foundation?14:52
ativelkovdonno yet14:52
nikhilflaper87: ha ! ye...a14:52
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nikhilI see14:52
ativelkovIt's mostly a PR initiave, they are trying to bring more attentioan to the app catalog14:52
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ativelkovBut at the same time it may be a good chance to discuss the technical details14:53
nikhilhmm, most likely another keynote prep :)14:53
nikhilyes14:53
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ativelkovSo, I'll send an email and give your contacts to organizers14:54
flaper87awesome14:54
flaper87thanks14:54
flaper87anything else? Anyone?14:54
TravThttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/224991/14:54
* nikhil ack14:55
flaper87I'll figure out a day for our lunch in tokyo14:55
flaper87we did a picnic in Vancouver, I don't think a picnic would be doable in Tokyo14:55
flaper87:P14:55
flaper87anyway14:55
mclarenlucnh sounds cool14:55
flaper87TravT: thanks14:55
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jokke_quick poll ... when people are arriving and leaving?14:55
flaper8725th-31st14:55
jokke_I'll be in tokyo Sun evening or Mon morning and will have flight back at Sun morning 1st14:56
abhishekk25th-31st14:56
nikhilTravT: most likely affects horizon directly?14:56
TravTYes, people were asking about it in the room over night14:56
TravThoping to get a review on it14:56
nikhilsounds straightforward, I can take a quick peek14:57
TravTcool, thx14:57
nikhiljokke_: sun->sat14:57
ativelkov26th - 15th :)14:57
mfedosinthe same14:57
mfedosinativelkov, not with you =P14:57
nikhilflaper87: you going out of japan in the meantime?14:57
jokke_So Glance Drinks at Mon evening?14:57
flaper87nope14:57
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flaper87but I'll be back in tokyo on the 25th14:58
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nikhilgotcha14:58
flaper87nikhil: when are you getting in?14:58
* nikhil was doing a timezone check14:58
nikhilflaper87: sun evening14:59
flaper87AWESOME!14:59
nikhil25th ie14:59
flaper87okidoki14:59
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flaper87ran out of time!14:59
flaper87thanks folks14:59
flaper87#endmeeting14:59
jokke_thanks all![6~14:59
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search'15:01
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TravTnikhil, so you'll be making it to this summit?15:01
nikhilTravT: :)15:01
TravTthat's great15:02
rosmaitao/15:02
nikhilThough I wonder if they should have kept Austin in Nov and Tokyo in May15:02
TravTi have a text from sjmc7 that his internet connection died.15:02
TravThe'll join when he can.15:02
lakshmiSyou mean weather wise15:02
TravTnikhil: that's what I thought about Atlanta and Paris as well15:02
nikhiltrue! :015:03
nikhil:)15:03
nikhillakshmiS: yes15:03
lakshmiS64F is not bad in tokyo15:03
nikhiltexas in may is going to be awesomeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!15:03
ativelkovJapan in Nov should be great because of the red leaves festival :)15:03
TravTbetter than texas in July I suspect15:03
TravThi ativelkov15:04
nikhilhigher 90s, 100s even15:04
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ativelkovhi TravT, sorry for interrupting :)15:04
TravTno worries, just killing time...15:04
TravTwe're missing a few of our usual suspects15:04
lakshmiSativelkov: long time15:04
ativelkovlakshmiS: :)15:05
TravTativelkov: we would like to touch base with you on artifacts v3 and indexing with searchlight15:05
lakshmiSheard you have some meeting coming up next week on app catalog15:05
ativelkovTravT: sure, we have the integration with the searchlite in our mitaka backlog :)15:05
TravT:)15:05
david-lyleo/15:06
lakshmiSativelkov: we could probably see if appcatalog needs searching :)15:06
ativelkovlakshmiS: yup, I was asked by the Openstack:Now editorial team to bring some Glance majors :)15:06
TravTativelkov: we have only a couple sessions at the summit for searchlight, but we could also have an informal one to talk about it and artifacts15:06
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ativelkovTravT: sure15:07
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ativelkovTravT: I have some Murano-related topics as well :)15:07
TravT+115:07
TravTso, let me bring up the session planning etherpad in just a sec.15:08
TravT#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda15:08
TravT#topic RC1 released15:08
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TravTGreat job everybody!15:08
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TravTi put up release notes:  https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty#OpenStack_Search_.28Searchlight.2915:09
lakshmiSyeaaaaah!15:09
david-lyle\o/15:09
TravTit is pretty awesome to accomplish what we have in the amount of time we've done it.15:09
TravTreally a great group of people15:10
TravTif you see anything missing from the release notes, please update or let me know and I will15:10
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TravTwe also have a stable/liberty branch15:10
nikhilwoohoo!!!15:10
nikhilTravT: does that mean RC1 is rc-final for liberty?15:11
TravTprobably.15:11
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TravTthere have been a couple bug fixes in the last few days and i found another, but really nothing critical15:11
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nikhilgotcha15:12
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TravTwe did do one fix direct on stable/liberty15:12
TravThttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/231726/15:12
nikhilI was a bit confused on the timeline around rel notes15:12
sjmc7hey15:12
nikhilnow clear15:12
TravThey sjmc715:12
TravTsince we decided to lower the release number at the last minute to help set measured expectations15:13
TravTallowing a little more wiggle room in mitaka15:13
TravTso, i guess nikhil that means we will have a new tag on stable/liberty for final15:13
nikhilTravT: I think that's critical15:14
TravTyes15:14
nikhilpossibly early next week?15:14
TravTwe had one on master https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230086/15:14
TravTwhich i don't think we should backport15:14
nikhilhmm15:14
nikhilwe don't keep a conf.sample ..15:15
nikhilso, I am okay either way15:15
nikhiloops, I read it in a wrong tab15:15
nikhilnvm15:15
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TravTthere is one other bug that if we got figured out we might consider for backport.15:15
TravThttps://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight/+bug/150308015:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1503080 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "Facet doc count reports more docs than actual" [Undecided,New]15:16
sjmc7we've got to figure out a fix for it first :)15:17
TravTyeah15:17
TravTWe do need a deadline for setting rc2 / final.15:17
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TravTwould kind of like it to be tomorrow, but Mon / Tues at the latest15:18
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TravTI am leaving for japan Wednesday evening.15:18
TravTgoing to vacation for a bit before the summit15:18
sjmc7wow, that's a long trip!15:18
lakshmiSgoing around japan other than tokyo?15:18
TravTtokyo, hakone, nara, kyoto, and one other place that i can't remember15:19
lakshmiSwow. i guess you will speak japanese by the end of it like you did with french15:19
TravTlol15:19
sjmc7well maybe let's say a deadline of finding any serious bugs by tommorrow evening?15:19
sjmc7and doing the final on monday?15:19
TravTthat sounds reasonable.15:20
sjmc7you'll also be sick of fish by then15:20
TravTsjmc7: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232200/115:20
TravTitisha put that up yesterday15:20
sjmc7yeah, testing that now15:20
TravTwe could consider it as well... although not a serious bug.15:20
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sjmc7it's a nice to have for deployment15:21
TravTseems pretty low risk15:22
lakshmiSneed to add some tests on it15:22
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lakshmiSif we can figure out one for config15:23
lakshmiSmanual testing for stuff increasing...15:23
TravTyes, we need to decrease that15:23
sjmc7maybe functional tests are best for config testing15:23
lakshmiSyeah thats possible15:24
sjmc7or mock loads of stuff15:24
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TravTlakshmiS: would you be able to leave a comment with pointer for itisha on how to add that kind of test?15:24
lakshmiSsure15:24
TravTthx15:24
TravTok, so we'll check in first thing Monday (last thing for lakshmiS) and then will likely push the tag15:25
TravTif sjmc7 figures out a fix for the doc_count, let's take a look at it.15:25
sjmc7no pressure?15:26
lakshmiS:)15:26
TravTwell, i'm just debating whether or not to remove showing it in the horizon plugin i've got going.15:26
TravTit is nice.15:26
TravTso, we do have another urgent agenda item.15:27
TravT#topic Mitaka session planning15:27
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TravT#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/searchlight-mitaka-summit15:27
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TravTWe have a deadline of October 15th to enter our sessions into sched15:27
TravTso, we need to get these figured out in the next day or two15:27
TravTtake a look at that etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/searchlight-mitaka-summit15:28
sjmc7ok. i have some ideas that i've not put down yet. i will do so today15:28
TravTlet's talk through some here.15:28
TravTWe have 1 fishbowl and 1 workroom slot.15:29
rosmaitai was hoping to have some info for performance and scalability, but looks like that won't happen until after the summit15:29
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nikhilTravT: do we have priorities setup for searchlight or is there a plan?15:30
TravTrosmaita: that is one of the ideas I put down for a workroom slot.15:30
rosmaitayes, i saw that15:30
sjmc7my biggest concern is getting away from hitting the service APIs for updates15:30
nikhilI am tying to think from a 3rd person perspective if things look clear15:30
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rosmaitasince just one slot, i think thinking about how to make cross-region searching happen would be a really good use of time15:31
TravTnikhil: i have an initial list of ideas for that and started to go through blueprints.15:31
rosmaitasjmc7: +1 to getting away from hitting the service APIs15:31
sjmc7yeah, HP is also interested in cross-region15:31
TravTwas also thinking the fishbowl session might help us to set next priorities15:31
nikhilTravT: gotcha15:32
sjmc7the other one i had was trying to provide some standardization on how string indexing is done15:32
nikhilFrom what I perceive, for a new interested vendor I see searchlight will be focusing on performance, cross region scoping (may be HA). What does it mean for indexing other services and for testing?15:32
sjmc7because tokenized vs not tokenized is not very apparent until it goes wrong15:32
sjmc7in terms of other services, swift would be a big one15:33
sjmc7but i don't think there's any mechanism to do it15:33
lakshmiSone takeway would be to hear from other teams on what would they like to be searched or pain points they have today which can also drive our priorities15:33
nikhilwhat do you mean by the service APIs? API for openstack services or some sort of other API for each service that's being called as service API -- may be admin API or something?15:33
sjmc7nikhil - anything we have to do over HTTP on updates15:34
sjmc7it will severely limit update bandwidth15:34
nikhilsjmc7: ++15:34
sjmc7designate's notifications contain all the info we get from the api15:34
nikhilI was strongly pro for this approach since the beginning15:34
sjmc7which is ideal15:34
sjmc7unfortunately, many other services don't provide what we need. one option is to limit ourselves to the notifications and try to improve them, which is my preferred option15:35
sjmc7anyway, i will add these to the etherpad15:35
nikhilI guess that means we will be giving other projects a stick when notifications aren't good enough15:35
TravTYes, I think everybody is pro the approach, and it means getting changes into other services so that the notifications in other services are generated with the same thing you'd get with a specific version of the API15:35
nikhilhaha, yeah. typing  at the same time sjmc7 :)15:35
TravTfor example, one of the blueprints i registered with us is to handle nova microversions.15:35
TravTbecause right now, we aren't specifying a version, meaning we are getting the minimum nova version15:36
TravTFYI: nova-server-versioning-extensions15:37
sjmc7if we don't use the API, we'll get whatever the notification gives us :)15:37
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TravTwhich lowers the value of searchlight if the notification doesn't provide enough information15:38
sjmc7yep. which is why it needs discussion15:38
TravTmaybe that should be a primary goal of the fishbowl session, if we can get people from other project into it15:38
sjmc7ok. i'll add it there15:39
lakshmiSwe can never rely on just API or notification. i guess both will be needed based on the plugin15:39
TravTthat would play into the second idea i have there, i think15:40
TravTnikhil: I copied my initial list of priorities onto this etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/searchlight-mitaka-priorities-brainstorming15:40
TravTanybody can add to it... this would be just ideas for priority themese15:40
TravTand we could finalize...15:40
TravTor we could do like nova and put a document into our repo with mitaka priorities15:41
TravTand we can all gerritt review it15:41
TravTok, i'll just be quiet here for a bit and let people edit on the etherpad, comment, etc.15:42
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TravThttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/searchlight-mitaka-summit15:42
nikhilTravT: ah thanks... I was just saying, not necessarily asking for a review :) BUt it's a bonus!!!15:44
nikhilTravT: I have a topic for open discussion if we have time15:45
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TravTsure, let's give this another minute, i still see some editing happening on the etherpad.15:45
TravTand I have to submit these up before our next meeting.15:45
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TravTsjmc7: how about we combine idea 2 & 3 for the fishbowl15:50
sjmc7sure15:50
TravTjust leave there as is15:51
TravTSo, we also will be in a horizon fishbowl it looks like15:52
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TravTwith zaqar15:52
sjmc7though i think therewe need to decide how we (SL) approach it; do we go with our hybrid approach until notifications are sufficient alone for a service (which reduces update bandwidth) or work with what the notifications have (which reduces what we can index)15:52
TravTmaybe it could be configurable.15:52
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TravTgraceful degradation15:52
TravTthat's a good discussion to have15:53
TravTwe won't solve in the next 7 minutes15:53
sjmc7not with that attitude15:53
TravT:D15:53
lakshmiSwhen notifications are less we dont have to worry much on calling API15:53
TravTWe can continue this in the room, but I do want to give nikhil some time15:54
sjmc7yep, go for it15:54
nikhilTHanks TravT15:54
TravT#topic open discussion15:54
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nikhilSO, I am looking for a topic that an intern can possibly work on for 2 months full time15:54
nikhilTHey can potentially pair on a BP too15:54
lakshmiSnew plugin :)15:54
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TravT+115:55
nikhilCurrently, I am getting them into Glance15:55
sjmc7a new plugin'd be the obvious one though i'd hope that wouldn't be a 2 month effort15:55
nikhilbut as a trend would be okay to include them here and do people have ideas for their learnings?15:55
TravTA plugin integration is actually a good way to learn about how openstack interactions work, i think.15:56
lakshmiStests are one area where a lot could be still added15:56
nikhilI was asking for some initial feedback. The outreachy program is the that's most active within openstack, but we can also look into GSoC15:56
nikhilI see15:56
david-lylesjmc7: remember a lot of learning time too15:56
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TravTis this itisha or somebody else?15:56
sjmc7i'll hold off cracking the whip15:56
nikhilso, I will take it as people think that in general interns are good addition and they can work on searchlight comfortably  :)15:57
TravTi think so.15:57
david-lyleyes15:57
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lakshmiS+115:57
nikhilTravT: I am just scouting atm. Will ask the coordinators if there is more interest15:57
TravTkragniz was like mr extraodirnaire intern15:57
* TravT can't spell15:57
kragnizlol15:57
nikhilthey allow more than one prj per application so, I can help them with Glance and SL15:57
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lakshmiSkragniz: hello there15:58
TravThe's lurking!15:58
TravTnikhil, i think it'd be great.15:58
nikhilI can come back with more feedback in following weeks once there is some interest15:58
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kragnizI always lurk!15:58
nikhilawesome!15:58
rosmaitakragniz: hello15:58
kragnizunless my lecture ends, like it just has15:58
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TravTbye kragniz15:59
nikhilthanks TravT. I am hoping to add a topic related to SL to the OPW wiki and will start with the tests stuff as lakshmiS mentioned.15:59
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nikhilData + Search if one catchy topic so I expect good interest but time will tell.15:59
TravTok, so let's circle back on final release tag and session planning in the room tomorrow / Monday.15:59
scarlisleo/15:59
prometheanfirehi16:00
TravTsearch is actually quite interesting.16:00
nikhil:)16:00
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TravTi guess we better end this meeting so we stop confusing others.16:00
TravT#endmeeting16:00
rosmaitabye16:00
prometheanfire#startmeeting OpenStack Ansible Meeting16:00
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Oct  8 16:00:32 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:00
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-10-08-15.00.html16:00
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openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-10-08-15.00.txt16:00
TravTthanks everybody!16:00
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-10-08-15.00.log.html16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct  8 16:00:42 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is prometheanfire. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible_meeting'16:00
palendaeo/16:00
prometheanfire#topic Agenda & rollcall16:00
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cloudnullo/16:01
palendaeo/16:01
prometheanfire#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting16:01
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prometheanfireo/16:01
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prometheanfire#topic Review action items from last week16:03
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prometheanfire#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-10-01-16.00.log.html16:03
dstaneko/16:04
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prometheanfirenot too sure about what we have to go over from last time16:04
cloudnull#link summary http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2015/openstack_ansible_meeting.2015-10-01-16.00.html16:04
prometheanfireneat16:05
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prometheanfireodyssey4me to register a bug to add docs for rabbitmq cluster recovery16:06
prometheanfireopenstack: status on that?16:07
prometheanfireand he's not here :|16:07
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prometheanfireand had all the tasks assigned to him16:08
stevelleall but the one where you chair this meeting :)16:08
prometheanfireya, well, next then...16:08
stevelleand the bug triage16:08
prometheanfire#topic  Liberty Release Blueprints16:08
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prometheanfire# link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/liberty-release16:09
prometheanfire# link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/trunk/+bug/148275616:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1482756 in openstack-ansible trunk "networking fails due to new ebtables-based arp spoofing protection" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Jesse Pretorius (jesse-pretorius)16:09
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jasondotstaro/ sorry I'm late - first time joining.16:10
prometheanfireit looks like the trunk fix was actually committed in https://review.openstack.org/21059316:11
prometheanfire#action odyssey4me verify master has fix commited and change status of https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/trunk/+bug/148275616:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1482756 in openstack-ansible trunk "networking fails due to new ebtables-based arp spoofing protection" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Jesse Pretorius (jesse-pretorius)16:12
scarlislew16:12
prometheanfirescarlisle: ?16:13
prometheanfire#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/149144016:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1491440 in openstack-ansible "Restarting containers leads to 'dangling' veth interfaces" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Major Hayden (rackerhacker)16:13
scarlisledisregard...wrong window had focus, ehhe16:13
prometheanfiremhayden: mind updating that one?16:13
prometheanfiremhayden: looks like it's all commited/released16:13
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prometheanfire#action mhayden update https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1491440 with current status16:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1491440 in openstack-ansible "Restarting containers leads to 'dangling' veth interfaces" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Major Hayden (rackerhacker)16:14
prometheanfire#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/149144016:14
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prometheanfirethis is the only one that doesn't look like has anyone working on it16:15
cloudnullwelcome jasondotstar ! :)16:15
prometheanfireanyone want to help with that?  looks like it's fairly well defined as to what needs doing16:16
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cloudnullprometheanfire:  the dangling veth issue is something that we can close out16:17
cloudnullits been fixed .16:17
jasondotstarthx16:17
prometheanfirecloudnull: I know, just noted as such16:17
cloudnullnice16:17
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jasondotstarlooking to jump in somewhere, perhaps this is a decent one.16:18
BjoernTDidn't we submit a pull request to lxc upstram to fix this more appropriately16:18
palendaeBjoernT: mhayden did, but who knows how long it'll take to get that released. And I'm not 100% his patch is the correct fix16:19
prometheanfireBjoernT: think that's being tracked outside of OSA16:19
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prometheanfirejasondotstar: sounds good, thanks for volunteering :P16:19
prometheanfire#action jasondotstar work on https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/149144016:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1491440 in openstack-ansible "Restarting containers leads to 'dangling' veth interfaces" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Major Hayden (rackerhacker)16:20
prometheanfirebah16:20
prometheanfirewrong one16:20
prometheanfiremeant https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/146986816:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1469868 in openstack-ansible "OpenStack Ansible Does Not Ship Glance Metadata Definitions" [Wishlist,Confirmed]16:20
prometheanfire#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/146986816:20
prometheanfirethat's the one no one is working on, seems laid out, etc16:20
jasondotstarso 1469868 is the one that needs someone to pick up?16:21
jasondotstarack.16:21
prometheanfirejasondotstar: yep16:21
* jasondotstar looks16:21
cloudnullthat'd be aweome to get in16:21
jasondotstarok I'll take a look16:21
prometheanfirecool16:22
stevellejust give a shout it you need help along the way16:22
prometheanfire#action jasondotstar work on https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/146986816:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1469868 in openstack-ansible "OpenStack Ansible Does Not Ship Glance Metadata Definitions" [Wishlist,Confirmed]16:22
prometheanfirethat's it for blueprints16:22
jasondotstaroh i will :-) I work w/ the puppet guys too. quick to ask a qn. esp when I'm a n00b here.16:22
prometheanfire#topic Mitaka Summit Discussion Agenda16:22
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prometheanfire#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-mitaka-summit16:23
prometheanfirenot too sure what needs doing there, you have input cloudnull?16:23
cloudnullif anyone has input on things we should work on while at the summit we;d love to review them16:23
prometheanfireya, feel free to add items, etc etc16:24
cloudnullany and all ideas are welcome.16:24
cloudnulland the more we get there the less we'll assume :)16:24
prometheanfire#topic docs16:25
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prometheanfire#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=rpc16:25
prometheanfiredocs&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&16:25
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prometheanfirefield.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on16:25
prometheanfirewell, that's not gonna work16:25
prometheanfire#link https://goo.gl/SvwR6J16:26
prometheanfirethat's another place that needs love and would be somewhat easy to get commits into16:26
cloudnullthe docs are coming together nicely.16:27
BjoernTOh yes please16:27
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prometheanfire#topic reviews16:27
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cloudnullrecently a lot of doc updates have gone through but if we can squash some of those it'd be great16:27
prometheanfire#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22413716:28
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prometheanfireIt seems that that review is getting a bit bikesheded, would be nice to actually get that done sometime16:29
prometheanfireso, if people could review it that'd be nice :P16:29
BjoernTSean is testing this so I think we are pretty close16:29
prometheanfireya16:30
prometheanfire#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22662116:30
scarlisleaaand it failed :(16:30
scarlisleI'll get with you in a bit cloudnull16:30
cloudnullgreat16:30
prometheanfirethat'd be nice to clean up bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/139938316:30
openstackLaunchpad bug 1399383 in openstack-ansible juno "General SSL support for all public endpoints including spice" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Jimmy McCrory (jimmy-mccrory)16:30
prometheanfireto finish the backport16:31
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prometheanfirecloudnull: you wanna talk about the venv stuff or are you waiting on feedback from the ML?16:31
cloudnullill talk about it16:31
prometheanfirego16:31
cloudnullall of the venv reviews are here https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/openstack-ansible+branch:master+topic:bp/enable-venv-support-within-the-roles,n,z16:31
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prometheanfire#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/openstack-ansible+branch:master+topic:bp/enable-venv-support-within-the-roles,n,z16:32
cloudnullwhich will allow the roles to deploy openstack bits into a venv16:32
cloudnullthis in particular is good for our "on metal" bits16:32
prometheanfiresolves the requests bug iirc16:32
cloudnullso that issues where host packages arn't conflicting with our from source everything else.16:33
cloudnullthere have been a couple of reviews regarding the changes .16:33
cloudnullmore is always better16:33
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* cloudnull is done talking16:34
cloudnullquestions ?16:34
prometheanfirealso, any other reviews people want to talk about?16:34
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stevelleAs far as you know are all of the patch sets stable or are further changes expected, barring feedback?16:34
cloudnullthey are stable16:36
prometheanfiregonna close this topic in a min if no responses16:36
cloudnulljesse had put in a review to change some things16:36
cloudnullill try to get that done today16:36
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cloudnullbut you can test / run them almost as is even with the couple of nits that im going on,16:37
BjoernTwe are still doing backports into kilo via cherry pick ?16:37
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cloudnullyes16:38
BjoernTcool16:38
cloudnull#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229513/16:38
cloudnull^ stevelle16:38
prometheanfireanyone else?16:38
cloudnullthose are the comments i have so far16:38
cloudnullall reviews follow a very similar pattern16:38
stevelleI started reviewing them but was interrupted in priorities. I'll resume this week16:38
prometheanfire#topic Open discussion16:39
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prometheanfire5 min for this, then close16:40
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cloudnullare there any issues in deployment that we should address?16:41
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cloudnullor something that needs to be backported to kilo that hasn't already16:41
palendaecloudnull: I'm still moving on the backporting mariadb bootstrapping to Kilo. Hopefully I'l have a review up today, though may be WIP16:42
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cloudnullsweet!16:42
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cloudnullBjoernT: idk if you saw this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228197/16:43
d34dh0r53Anyone else getting no viable alternative at character '%' on their gerrit bookmarks?16:43
BjoernTyes i did16:43
palendaed34dh0r53: Yep16:43
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BjoernTyes I do get this too16:44
d34dh0r53palendae: any fixes found?16:44
palendaed34dh0r53: I saw it once and moved on, sorry16:44
d34dh0r53mine does it every time16:44
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d34dh0r53hmm16:44
stevelleinfra upgraded gerrit afaict so all the old dashboards I have are broken16:45
stevelleI'm just rebuilding them16:45
prometheanfireanyone else?16:47
cloudnullBjoernT: also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232657/16:47
BjoernTthanks, I test on kilo later the day16:47
cloudnullsweet16:48
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prometheanfireok, take it to #openstack-ansible16:51
prometheanfire#endmeeting16:51
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cathy_#startmeeting service_chaining17:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct  8 17:00:17 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is cathy_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining'17:00
johnsomo/17:00
vikramji17:00
cathy_hi everyone17:00
pcarver_hi17:00
vikramhi17:00
LouisFhi17:00
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s3wonghello17:01
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cathy_OK let's start17:01
cathy_#topic Separate flow classifier API and DB code patch out of the SFC API and DB code patch17:02
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amotokihi17:02
mohankumarhi17:02
cathy_amotoki: hi17:02
cathy_any thought on this?17:02
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s3wongcathy_: do we want to instead post the patch to Neutron?17:03
mohankumarcathy_ : can you explain the background for this change ?17:03
LouisFcathy_: are you thinking about the common classifier?17:03
cathy_If we separate the classifier code patch, then it will be easier to move this code to Neutron core if needed and for othere modules to leverage this code later17:03
s3wongcathy_: or we separate in case that we are going to move that from networkiing-sfc to Neutron in the future? (but it would remain in networking-sfc for now)17:04
vikrams3wong: We can't get the same code in neutron..17:04
cathy_LouisF: potential for that in the future17:04
vikramcurrent proposal is to introduce it as a core extension and not as a service plug-in17:05
s3wongvikram: really? how so?17:05
amotokiI think the current proposed code has a separate flow classifier extension and db code, so I think we can easily migrate to a new one once general flow classifier feature lands in neutron.17:05
vikramhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/190463/17:05
vikramamotoki, cathy_: I agree we can port most of the changes17:06
cathy_amotoki: yes, agree.17:06
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vikramamotoki, cathy_: but need some changes as well17:06
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s3wongvikram: I was under the impression that armax has commented on that flow classifier vs flow classifier in networking-sfc in an email to ML?17:07
cathy_amotoki: vikram so for that easy porting, it seems better to separate the code patch out for review now17:07
cathy_vikram: yes, may need some changes or extension, but most of the meaty part will be the same17:07
amotokis3wong: do you have a pointer to the thread?17:07
vikramamotoki, cathy_: but need some changes as well?17:07
vikrams3wong: any link?17:07
cathy_vikram: yes17:08
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s3wongamotoki, vikram: looking...17:08
vikramcathy_: +1 for moving flow_classifier changes out17:08
cathy_vikram: OK, good17:08
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vikramhow other's think about this change?17:09
amotokii think what we need to do when flow classifer from neutron core is available are to remove the extension from SFC service plugin supported_exnteison_list and consume methods from common flow classifier.17:09
cathy_s3wong: If I remember correctly, the comment is about the putting the BP proposed by Yuji in "abandoned" state for that time.17:09
amotokiI am not sure which is better. I think we still need time to land the common classifier discussion.17:10
cathy_amotoki: agree. but the code developed here can be leveraged17:10
amotokicathy_: IIRC yuji resumed his one.17:10
vikramamotoki: but a separate patch will be helpful to port the code later17:11
s3wongcathy_: yes, I remember that as well, but still searching for the email...17:11
amotokivikram: cathy_: I see. I got your point. you are suggesting separate gerrit reviews.17:11
cathy_OK, so separate it out will be helpful, but how to do the common classifier is another topic which needs more discussion17:11
vikramamotoki: +117:11
LouisFcathy_: +117:12
amotoki+117:12
cathy_s3wong: mohankumar johnsom pcarver_ : OK with you?17:13
pcarver_yes, +117:13
LouisFvikram: for now can you create a separate patch for the flow classifier?17:13
mohankumaryes +117:13
s3wongcathy_: +117:13
johnsom+117:13
vikramLouisF: Sure!17:13
cathy_LouisF: I can do this17:13
LouisFcathy_: do you want to split the patches?17:13
mohankumarcathy_17:13
amotokii can help vikram17:13
vikramcathy_: go ahead17:13
cathy_#agreed Separate flow classifier API and DB code patch out of the SFC API and DB code patch17:14
s3wongamotoki, vikram, cathy_: found it:  http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/070849.html]17:14
cathy_#action Cathy Separate flow classifier API and DB code patch out of the SFC API and DB code patch17:14
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cathy_#Patches Ready for merge discussion17:15
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cathy_#topic Patches Ready for merge discussion17:15
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LouisFs3wong: yes its about sfc fc vs. common classifier17:15
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vikrams3wong: I think the discussion was about packet forwarding ... Yuji had a separate patch for tah17:16
vikram*that.. not same as flow classifer17:16
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cathy_it seems the following patches are ready for merge: Realizing SFC (1b/5), Realizing SFC (2/5), Refactored documents.17:17
cathy_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/networking-sfc+branch:master+topic:networking-sfc,n,z17:17
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LouisFpcarver_: do still have a problem with  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229777/17:18
LouisFpcarver_: do you?17:18
pcarver_LouisF: I did as of last time I tried it. Has there been a new PS?17:18
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pcarver_I found that if I deleted the pylint line from test-requirements.txt I get a successful tox run17:19
LouisFpcarver_: vikram retested the pep8 and it was ok17:19
cathy_LouisF: pcarver_ I see email from Vikram saying he does not have problem17:19
vikrampcarver_: I tried before the meeting.. It worked without any issue17:19
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pcarver_I'll try it again, but I tried it on a freshly built Ubuntu 14.04 VM twice and got the same issue consistently17:19
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vikrampcarver_: It would be great if you can post your error and details17:20
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pcarver_can you check if the pylint line is in your test-requirements.txt?17:20
pcarver_the file isn't part of the patch, it's part of a freshly cloned networking-sfc repo17:21
vikrampcarver_: it's there17:21
vikrampylint==1.4.4 # GNU GPL v217:21
vikramline no 2217:21
pcarver_I'll rerun and post the full output to a pastebin17:22
vikrampcarver_: let's take this offline.. ;)17:22
pcarver_ok17:22
cathy_For this patch, let's wait for this issue to be resolved before merging it.17:22
vikramcathy_: +1.. let's figure out hwy pcarver_ facing issue..17:23
pcarver_I'd be ok with merging it if other folks are getting a successful tox run on a clean clone and fetch17:23
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cathy_How about the other two patches? I have gone through them and they look good to me. OK for merge? Any -1?17:23
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vikramanyway's i re-triggered CI17:24
cathy_If anyone has an issue with the other two patches, please shout here :-) , otherwise I will approve them for merge.17:26
LouisFhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/227074/ looks good17:26
s3wongcathy_: we do have to wait for 1b to merge before merging 2 though, right?17:26
vikramcathy_:  do you have the link handy?17:27
LouisFhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/229765/ also17:27
amotokiboth looks good to me17:27
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cathy_vikram: I posted the link before. Here it is https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/networking-sfc+branch:master+topic:networking-sfc,n,z17:27
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cathy_amotoki: LouisF OK, thanks for the input17:28
vikramcathy_: thanks..17:28
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cathy_s3wong: let me check the dependency17:28
s3wongcathy_, LouisF: yeah, the migration patch looks good17:28
pcarver_I'm ok with the migration patch, although this whole Alembic business seems questionable to me. But if it's conssistent with the rest of OpenStack I guess we have to live with it.17:29
pcarver_I just don't like the idea of database schemas being defined in two places and relying on code review to visually check consistency17:30
s3wongpcarver_:  a can of worms you don't want to open :-)17:30
pcarver_s3wong: well, not right now anyway. I don't mind opening cans of worms at the appropriate time.17:30
amotokipcarver_: we have check-migration in pep8 target.17:30
amotokiit is done in most neutron related projects.17:31
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amotokiwe can improve it.17:31
cathy_s3wong: so you are OK with merging the two patches, right?17:31
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amotokiregarding 229777, I created a fresh pep8 env now. "tox -r -e pep8" and then run ".tox/pep8/bin/pylint --rcfile=.pylintrc --output-format=colorized networking_sfc/**/*.py". It succeeded.17:32
s3wongcathy_: migration I am OK... 1b we have to wait for pcarver_'s OK (that it works installing on ubuntu)17:32
LouisFamotoki: great17:32
cathy_s3wong: I am referring to Realizing SFC (2/5), Refactored documents.17:32
pcarver_I'm probably going to +2 the 1b patch later today. I just got a clean tox run on a bare metal Ubuntu box. I want to run it once more on a VM and see if I can identify why I was getting failures.17:33
vikramcathy_: I think we can merge 1b/5 as well17:33
cathy_pcarver_: great17:33
LouisFvikram: +117:33
cathy_vikram: OK17:34
vikramcathy_, pcarver_: I think it might be an env issue rather than code flaw ;)17:34
s3wongthe DependsOn for migration patch needs to be updated17:34
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amotokion the other hand "tox -e pylint" failed. I think we can tackle this later.17:34
LouisFs3wong: you mean the [OUTDATED]?17:34
pcarver_vikram: probably, but I'd like to identify what it is specifically because I built two fresh Ubuntu 14.04 VMs yesterday and repeated the issue on both.17:35
vikrampcarver_: ok17:35
s3wongLouisF: yes17:35
pcarver_Simply deleting the one pylint line from test-requirements.txt resolved the error, but I don't know why17:35
s3wongLouisF: (that's why I did17:35
s3wongdidn't +A)17:35
cathy_vikram: could you update the dependency per s3wong's suggestion17:36
vikrams3wong: No need to worry..17:36
vikrams3wong: Once the patch gets merged we can rebase17:36
LouisFvikram: ok17:37
s3wongvikram: sure17:37
vikrams3wong: no conflict .. so nothing to worry17:37
cathy_#agreed merge the three patches: Realizing SFC (1b/5), Realizing SFC (2/5), Refactored documents.17:38
amotokiI would suggest to remove "pylint" from deps in tox.ini rather than deleting pylint from test-reqs.txt17:39
cathy_#topic review for the other SFC patches17:39
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amotokiwill comment in the review.17:39
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vikramamotoki: sure17:40
s3wongamotoki: OK17:40
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cathy_amotoki: sure, thanks for the comment, vikram I will wait for you to address that and then approve it for merge. OK with you?17:40
amotokijust commented. vikram, can I update it?17:40
vikramamotki: sure ;)17:41
vikramamotoki: sure ;)17:41
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amotokiI succeeded to run 'tox -e pylint' now.17:41
amotokionce others confirm the success, we can go.17:41
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LouisFpcarver_: can you check also?17:42
pcarver_amotoki: That sounds like it'll resolve what I was seeing. I'll check it.17:42
pcarver_The error I was getting was about a duplicate of pylint. The error pointed to test-requirements.txt, but obviously a duplicate can be resolved by removing either of the duplications.17:42
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amotokipcarver_: I uploaded the new patch set. try it!17:43
vikramamotoki: thanks!17:43
cathy_I see vikram and mohankumar have posted new comments for the other patches 3/5, 4/5, 5/5. LouisF could you address them and upload new patches?17:46
LouisFpcarver_: will do17:46
cathy_amotoki: could you also review these patches?17:46
amotokiI am looking at 3/5.17:46
vikramLouisF: Let me know if any help is needed17:47
amotokiafter that, I will visit later ones.17:47
LouisFamotoki: thanks17:47
cathy_amotoki: great. thanks.17:47
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LouisFvikram: ok17:47
cathy_pcarver_: s3wong could you review these patches ?17:47
s3wongcathy_: certainly17:47
pcarver_cathy_: I will. I'm swamped, but will make time to get through all of them.17:48
cathy_great, thanks folks!17:48
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cathy_Let's try to squeeze time and give these good review so that we can move forward faster.17:49
cathy_any other topic you would like to discuss? we have 11 minutes left17:49
vikramcathy_: how about the agent code17:49
vikramcathy_: when it could be ready17:49
cathy_vikram: yes, I am going to post that code soon.17:49
vikramcathy_: ok..17:49
cathy_vikram: I can post them either this Friday or next Monday.17:50
vikramcathy_: ok..17:50
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cathy_vikram: Still working on the UT codes for the agent to make them more comprehensive.17:51
vikramcathy_: You are going to separate the patch 3/5?17:51
cathy_vikram: yes17:51
vikramcathy_: ok17:51
vikramcathy_: great17:51
vikramhorizon changes are also coming great17:51
vikrammohan will post them soon17:52
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mohankumarHorizon patch will up  for review tomorrow without UT , as of now create , delete , list for all resources are tested with client ,sever code . Doing few update checks17:53
cathy_vikram: great. So mohan will post an updated patch, right?17:54
vikramcathy_: yes17:54
cathy_mohankumar: great. thanks.17:54
s3wongmohankumar: very good!17:54
LouisFmohankumar: great!17:54
mohankumarthanks :)17:55
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cathy_We have a good discussion. Thanks everyone!  If nothing else, I will end the meeting.17:57
s3wong3 minutes, is the meeting coming to a close?17:57
cathy_s3wong: yes17:57
LouisFbye17:57
s3wongbye. Thanks, everyone!17:57
cathy_bye everyone17:57
mohankumarbye17:57
vikrambye17:57
amotokibye17:57
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cathy_#endmeeting17:58
johnsombye17:58
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