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nikhil#startmeeting glance_artifacts_sub_team14:07
openstackMeeting started Mon Nov  2 14:07:07 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is nikhil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:07
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:07
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nikhilativelkov: mfedosin: anyone around?14:07
nikhilsigmavirus24_awa: ^14:07
mfedosinnikhil, o/14:07
nikhilhey14:07
mfedosinkairat is here too14:08
nikhilah ha14:08
mfedosinso, no special news14:08
nikhilnice, hi kairat14:08
nikhilgotcha14:08
kairato/14:08
kairathi guys14:08
nikhilI figured it's best to log the updates or no updates so I started the meeting14:08
mfedosinwe decided to move glance artifacts to separate service14:08
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mfedosinCodename: Glare14:09
nikhilseparate (set) of processes14:09
nikhilright?14:09
mfedosinI'm going to prepare a spec, that describes this process14:09
nikhilI see, cool14:10
mfedosinit will be standalone service with own endpoint port etc14:10
mfedosinand completely independent from glance14:10
mfedosinhere's the etherpad link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-glance-artifacts-review14:11
nikhilright now we have the same database table14:12
nikhilI will add an item for next week's discussion on this.14:14
mfedosinI think we have to create new set of tables for Glare14:14
mfedosinand drop the existing artifacts tables14:15
kairatbefore dropping the tables we need to think if we are going to support different database api's14:16
nikhilthat is a good question14:16
nikhilwhich others are you thinking?14:16
mfedosindatabase api will be different14:17
mfedosinactually I like to have glance and glare separated14:17
nikhilare we talking about database connector api or the models and the sqlalchemy api in the code?14:18
mfedosinbecause having an autonomous service will allow us to be consistent with the requirements of defcore14:18
mfedosinnikhil, everything14:18
nikhilI think we also need to discuss if it will need to be evaluated by defcore14:18
mfedosinthere will be new database models with different tables, new database api14:19
nikhilhm14:19
nikhilis there any project that supports more than sqlalchemy?14:19
mfedosinno, defcore is okay with this - glare won't be a part of it14:20
mfedosinno, there will be only sqlalchemy14:20
mfedosin(and registry v2)14:20
mfedosinbut api will differ from the current14:21
nikhilok, looking forward to the details on the spec14:21
mfedosinnew database api won't support transitive dependencies, show level14:22
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mfedosinand generally it will be easier.14:23
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mfedosinthere is an open question about client14:23
nikhilyeah14:23
kairatnikhil, AFAIK glance has simple_api and db_api14:24
kairatceilometer has mondo14:24
kairat*mongo14:24
nikhilkairat: yeah, someone was asking in Vancouver if we will let them add nosql support14:24
kairatmfedosin, the question is good14:25
nikhilthat was a big refactor to the db api so we asked them to evaluate more14:25
kairatwill it be part of glance client?14:25
mfedosinin Vancouver they wanted to use Cassandra14:25
mfedosinwhich is a bad idea IMO14:25
mfedosinyesm it was decided to use the existing glance client14:26
nikhilI think it would be good to keep this in py-glanceclient so that we don't have to deal with releasing multiple libs and then maintain them. one gate, one team, clarity on the releases etc14:26
mfedosinbut if it becomes too huge we can separate them and create glareclient14:26
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mfedosinnikhil, yes - we will begin with glanceclient14:27
nikhilcool14:28
mfedosinit all artifacts updates at the moment14:28
mfedosinyou can create an action item for me to write a spec14:28
nikhilgreat!14:28
kairatmfedosin, have you got any feedback from murano and app catalog about this?14:29
nikhilmfedosin: it might be worth listing all the action items for artifacts on the spec so that different people can pick it up14:29
kairatAre they ok with this?14:29
kairator we decided this internally14:29
mfedosinyes, app-catalog willed to use glare when it's stable14:30
mfedosinand murano is okay with everything :)14:30
nikhil:)14:30
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kairatso this will never be api v3)14:31
nikhilGreat work folks. we are out of time for today.14:31
mfedosinthanks!14:31
nikhilLet's discuss the v3 part when ativelkov is back or next or the week after.14:31
kairatok, thanks14:32
nikhilI would like his feedback from the talk etc too14:32
kairatbye14:32
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nikhilthanks!14:32
nikhil#endmeeting14:32
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