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| JRobinson__ | #startmeeting docuserguides | 00:05 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 18 00:05:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is JRobinson__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: docuserguides)" | 00:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'docuserguides' | 00:05 |
| JRobinson__ | We're starting later than planned, but I'm expecting this will be a short meeting | 00:05 |
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| JRobinson__ | bmoss, so the short version of what's happening with the User Guides - | 00:05 |
| JRobinson__ | The current priority is working on moving dashboard content from the Admin Guide to the Cloud Admin Dashboard Chapter. | 00:06 |
| JRobinson__ | Once that is done, we will move the command line file content from the Admin Guide to the Cloud Admin Guide | 00:06 |
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| JRobinson__ | This should be under - | 00:07 |
| JRobinson__ | #topic User Guide Discussion Summary | 00:07 |
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| JRobinson__ | I've added a table to the Task List page to keep track of what files have been copied across, and if they have been added to the index, or included inside an existing Cloud Admin Chapter | 00:09 |
| bmoss | JRobinson__, would you mind popping a link for the task list into the meeting? | 00:11 |
| JRobinson__ | bmoss, was about to link, one second more | 00:11 |
| bmoss | thanks. :) | 00:11 |
| JRobinson__ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/ReorganizeUserGuides#Up_to_Date_Tasks | 00:11 |
| JRobinson__ | This is the task list that resulted from the spec from last year. | 00:12 |
| bmoss | ah, ok | 00:13 |
| JRobinson__ | Let's see, other points to note - | 00:16 |
| JRobinson__ | The table for tracking the file changes is at the end of the Up To Date task list | 00:17 |
| JRobinson__ | #action Roundup any files already moved across | 00:17 |
| JRobinson__ | ^I know there are two patches I need to follow up on for this one | 00:17 |
| JRobinson__ | bmoss, on that earlier point "The current priority is working on moving dashboard content from the Admin Guide to the Cloud Admin Dashboard Chapter." | 00:22 |
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| JRobinson__ | I've split that into two parts to make sure the patches are not too big | 00:23 |
| JRobinson__ | bmoss, any questions or comments on the User Guides? | 00:23 |
| bmoss | no, that sounds good to me. Thanks JRobinson__ | 00:23 |
| berndbausch | Good morning | 00:24 |
| JRobinson__ | I know there Information Architecture is going to be a point in later on | 00:24 |
| JRobinson__ | berndbausch, morning o/ | 00:24 |
| JRobinson__ | berndbausch, so far I've just been going over the short version of what's happening with the User Guides | 00:25 |
| berndbausch | that would be useful to know | 00:25 |
| JRobinson__ | On the current goal - reorganising the Cloud Admin and Admin User Guide into one document - The priority at the moment is the dashboard chapter | 00:26 |
| JRobinson__ | Specifically moving the admin guide content on Dashboard tasks to the Cloud Admin Dashboard chapter. | 00:26 |
| JRobinson__ | gmolson and I disucssed this in the US timezone meeting. | 00:27 |
| JRobinson__ | Other tasks that we're working on can be found in the Up To Date task list | 00:27 |
| JRobinson__ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/ReorganizeUserGuides#Up_to_Date_Tasks | 00:27 |
| berndbausch | JRobinson, so I could look into this task and make it mine or will several people work on the dashboard? | 00:28 |
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| JRobinson__ | berndbausch, I have split the Dashboard item into two parts | 00:29 |
| JRobinson__ | berndbausch, I'm going to give the first half a try. | 00:30 |
| JRobinson__ | berndbausch, the second half is free | 00:30 |
| berndbausch | JRobinson I can't see a description of those halves | 00:31 |
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| JRobinson__ | berndbausch, I need to add a list of the filenames to the file tracking table so it's clear what has been moved, and what has not. | 00:32 |
| JRobinson__ | The table is at the end of the task list | 00:32 |
| JRobinson__ | I'm collecting the file names now. | 00:32 |
| berndbausch | Yep, rather empty right now :) | 00:33 |
| berndbausch | OK might be a nice little project for me. | 00:33 |
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| JRobinson__ | excellent, sounds good :) | 00:33 |
| JRobinson__ | thanks berndbausch, and sorry for the short notice - There will be another meeting next week - today's was an extra one. Ordinarily, we meet fortnightly. | 00:34 |
| berndbausch | not a problem. I struggled getting pidgin to work, thus late | 00:35 |
| JRobinson__ | np, it's work out okay | 00:35 |
| JRobinson__ | bmoss, berndbausch So going over the current state of the User Guides was all I had in mind for this meeting. I'll have a clearer agenda next week. | 00:35 |
| JRobinson__ | #Open Discussion | 00:36 |
| JRobinson__ | #topic Open Discussion | 00:36 |
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| JRobinson__ | That's better | 00:36 |
| bmoss | I don't really have anything to add at the moment. | 00:38 |
| berndbausch | Same here | 00:39 |
| JRobinson__ | np, I'll end the meeting here then | 00:39 |
| JRobinson__ | #Endmeeting | 00:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 00:39 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 18 00:39:16 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docuserguides/2016/docuserguides.2016-02-18-00.05.html | 00:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docuserguides/2016/docuserguides.2016-02-18-00.05.txt | 00:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docuserguides/2016/docuserguides.2016-02-18-00.05.log.html | 00:39 |
| JRobinson__ | berndbausch, bmoss thanks for joining today :) | 00:39 |
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| bmoss | no worries. Thanks JRobinson__ | 00:40 |
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| berndbausch | Cheers | 00:42 |
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| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, bunting | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | Courtesy meeting reminder: dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat | 14:00 |
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| flaper87 | #startmeeting Glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 18 14:00:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:00 | |
| flaper87 | o/ | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| kragniz | o/ | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:00 |
| rsjethani | o/ | 14:00 |
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| dshakhray | o/ | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:01 |
| nikhil | o/ | 14:01 |
| ninag | o/ | 14:01 |
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| kairat_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | #topic Agenda | 14:01 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agenda (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:01 | |
| flaper87 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | That's our agenda for today | 14:01 |
| sabari | o/ | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | #topic Updates from Glare | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates from Glare (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:01 | |
| flaper87 | mfedosin: kairat_ any updates ? | 14:02 |
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| flaper87 | How's that spec coming along ? | 14:02 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 14:02 |
| mfedosin | hey | 14:02 |
| mfedosin | it's quite good | 14:02 |
| mfedosin | we spent last days discussing and documenting our ideas | 14:02 |
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| mfedosin | so plan is still the same | 14:03 |
| mfedosin | spec will be published on Monday | 14:03 |
| mfedosin | 22nd of February | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | coolio | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | sounds good | 14:03 |
| flaper87 | Anything else? | 14:03 |
| mfedosin | thanks nikhil for useful advice | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | ++ | 14:04 |
| nikhil | :) | 14:04 |
| mfedosin | that's all I suppose | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | thanks for the updates | 14:04 |
| kairat_ | nikhil, we refined use case description | 14:04 |
| kairat_ | added statuses transition | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | #topic Updates Nova v1->v2 | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates Nova v1->v2 (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:04 | |
| nikhil | cool will look again | 14:04 |
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| mfedosin | nikhil: there are a lot of new things | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/086424.html | 14:05 |
| nikhil | ack | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | So, mfedosin sent that email out | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | not much has happened | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | no response from the nova team, AFAICT | 14:05 |
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| mfedosin | jaypipes promised to send his response | 14:05 |
| bunting | o/ | 14:05 |
| mfedosin | but... | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | I wouldn't get our hopes too high on this happening in Mitaka | 14:06 |
| mfedosin | okay, let's do it in Newton | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | That said, as I mentioned in my reply, I do think we should move forward with the deprecation of v1 | 14:06 |
| mfedosin | but DO it | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | I'll work on a better and more formal proposal for that | 14:07 |
| nikhil | well how do we deprecate it | 14:07 |
| nikhil | if it's needed | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | All that to happen in newton, though | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | not now | 14:07 |
| nikhil | k | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: need to think this through a bit better, TBH. | 14:07 |
| nikhil | surely | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | that's it, I guess | 14:07 |
| flaper87 | #topic Updates x-proj meeting | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates x-proj meeting (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:08 | |
| nikhil | o/ | 14:08 |
| nikhil | There's just one | 14:08 |
| nikhil | ommon policy scenario across all projects | 14:08 |
| nikhil | Common* | 14:08 |
| nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245629 | 14:08 |
| nikhil | The proposal is merely to elaborate the roles in defaults shipped with the source | 14:09 |
| flaper87 | ++ | 14:09 |
| nikhil | Currently, that's not the case with most prjs. it's either admin or user | 14:09 |
| nikhil | I think Glance has some good usecases where we can benefit the community with different types of roles | 14:09 |
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| flaper87 | could you elaborate? | 14:09 |
| nikhil | viz. image (protected) properties, metadefs | 14:10 |
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| nikhil | We allow pretty fine grained access to individual elements | 14:10 |
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| nikhil | I think the work from sigmavirus24_awa in Liberty for using oslo.policy in full potential (haven | 14:10 |
| nikhil | that I haven't tested* | 14:10 |
| nikhil | should give us some narrow/corner case scenarios to think about | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | gotcha | 14:11 |
| flaper87 | that sounds interesting indeed | 14:11 |
| nikhil | Plus we also have the discussion going with admin properties used/req by Nova | 14:11 |
| nikhil | So, I encourage individual members to weigh in on that spec | 14:11 |
| mclaren | Do you have a spec link nikhil? | 14:12 |
| nikhil | I'm sure there are a lot amongst us who are working on specific cases more than others | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245629/ | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | mclaren: ^ | 14:12 |
| mclaren | gracias | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | de nada | 14:12 |
| nikhil | (I posted the link above, hope all my msgs are going through) | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | searchlight has some glance policy/prop protection config files they use for testing, i think they have several roles | 14:12 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: they are | 14:13 |
| nikhil | flaper87: ty for ack | 14:13 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: right you are! | 14:13 |
| mclaren | oops I mean the link for the nova/glance properties | 14:13 |
| nikhil | um | 14:13 |
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| * flaper87 doesn't have it handy | 14:13 | |
| flaper87 | It's a nova spec | 14:14 |
| nikhil | me neither | 14:14 |
| mclaren | nikhil: fwiw Niall put this in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249950/ | 14:14 |
| nikhil | mclaren: ah interesting, will look | 14:14 |
| bunting | Yup | 14:14 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: anything else? | 14:14 |
| nikhil | will help with snaps | 14:14 |
| nikhil | one small thing | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | shoot | 14:15 |
| nikhil | Nova folks are very interested in the quotas work, so I think we should get good feedback prior to summit | 14:15 |
| flaper87 | nice! we've a topic for that coming up next | 14:15 |
| nikhil | I forgot my other words :( | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | :( | 14:16 |
| nikhil | ok, I will update in the dedicated topic | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | ok, moving to the next topic | 14:16 |
| nikhil | please move on for now | 14:16 |
| nikhil | ty | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | #topic Quotas | 14:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Quotas (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:16 | |
| nikhil | :D | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | ninag nikhil | 14:16 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:17 |
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| nikhil | oh yes, so the guy who has experience and wanted to write the spec is from yahoo | 14:17 |
| nikhil | he is still interested in the work but due to recent stir in the valley, there has been delay in getting the spec up | 14:17 |
| nikhil | I was told that first draft would be proposed later this week | 14:18 |
| nikhil | (end of x-prj update) | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: this is a x-pj quotas spec? | 14:18 |
| nikhil | For glance quotas | 14:18 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: yeah | 14:18 |
| nikhil | For glance quotas | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: you stole my question | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:18 |
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| jokke_ | I don't think that being so big of an issue if the deprecation of v1 got pushed to Newton/O timeframe | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | (see ... i am paying attention) | 14:19 |
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| nikhil | I had a discussion with rosmaita and ninag to bridge the gap between what goes in simple, nested and what are challenged in glance | 14:19 |
| nikhil | jokke_: woohoo | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | so we have plenty of time to plan the quotas | 14:19 |
| mclaren | which part of the quotas work is x-proj? | 14:19 |
| nikhil | mclaren: xprj will be nested work | 14:20 |
| nikhil | actually that's the plan | 14:20 |
| nikhil | but I think we will know the practicalities as things evolve | 14:20 |
| mclaren | ok sounds good | 14:20 |
| nikhil | so, I guess the proposal(s) is(are) pretty thorough wrt use cases and API description | 14:21 |
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| nikhil | I was raised some concerns on how things will work for entities that are not storage related. | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | nikhil: like? | 14:22 |
| nikhil | I guess we can have some planning of how to span out the work and if it will or will not affect | 14:22 |
| nikhil | jokke_: right, so the concerns are premature atm. we need some (virtual)whiteboarding to figure out if the concerns stand tall. | 14:23 |
| nikhil | image-members for the most part | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | Planning Newton will be interesting. Basically, most of the things that were planned for mitaka got pushed to Newton. Image import refactor and nova v1 - v2 | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | Scheduling those 2 with quotas will be.... fun | 14:23 |
| nikhil | I am just curious if we can work out a plan to get them done in n-1 | 14:23 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: quotas? | 14:24 |
| nikhil | and focus on improvements for later phases? | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: easy ... we start planning/discussing quotas now and implement in O where we hopefully have v1 finally deprecated | 14:24 |
| nikhil | flaper87: n-1 = nova v1->v2 and import | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: +1 | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | and the above points implemented | 14:24 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: That would be ideal | 14:24 |
| nikhil | so, this is a really really important work we need in N | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: We'll see, definitely not something we need to discuss right now. | 14:25 |
| nikhil | and I think the planning (even work) has been started already | 14:25 |
| flaper87 | actually, sorry for mentioning that, I didn't mean to hijack the conversation | 14:25 |
| nikhil | I would like to discuss the possibility in more detail. | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | man, i love working in open source | 14:26 |
| nikhil | So, my point of getting quotas right starting from Mitaka was for the same reason | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: ;) | 14:26 |
| flaper87 | I think we need to freeze the image import refactor spec and then we can start scheduling everything | 14:27 |
| nikhil | we discuss all the edge cases here and get the xprj feedback early so that we don't have surprises | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: right | 14:27 |
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| flaper87 | nikhil: so, I take we'll be going with your and ninag proposal, right? | 14:27 |
| flaper87 | Not flwang's | 14:27 |
| nikhil | flaper87: so, we would love to describe how they all work so that it's clear that fei long's proposal is not discredited with ninag's | 14:28 |
| flaper87 | absolutely | 14:28 |
| nikhil | if we need a more bandwidth conversations with those who have concerns, it would be totally possible | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | Ok, I think the next step is for folks to read the specs and start commenting there | 14:29 |
| nikhil | ++ | 14:29 |
| flaper87 | That way we can start raising questions and have more specific conversations | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | cool, should we move on? | 14:30 |
| nikhil | that would be super helpful | 14:30 |
| nikhil | ninag: any comments? | 14:30 |
| ninag | nope, am good | 14:30 |
| nikhil | thanks | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | #topic Remove env tools | 14:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Remove env tools (Meeting topic: Glance)" | 14:30 | |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269414/ | 14:30 |
| flaper87 | So, we still have `run_tests` and some scripts under `tools` to create venvs | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | Is anyone using those? | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | I'm certainly not and the gate isn't either | 14:31 |
| flaper87 | I'd like to remove them. Last time we tried, some folks were using them. Trying again now | 14:31 |
| kairat_ | are these tools x-proj? | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | They used to be in oslo-incubator | 14:32 |
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| flaper87 | oslo0incubator is now gone | 14:32 |
| flaper87 | and several projects have removed them | 14:32 |
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| bunting | https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1546664 says they are broken | 14:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1546664 in Glance "Unable to run tox tests, install_command error" [Undecided,New] | 14:33 |
| bunting | So does that mean that nobody is using them? | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | I don't think we need to make this a x-prj effort. It's my opinion that tox does everything we need to do and that can be done with run_tests | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | bunting: open source, one never knows :P | 14:33 |
| kragniz | flaper87: +1 on removing them | 14:33 |
| flaper87 | Unless someone screams, I'll send a patch to remove them | 14:33 |
| kairat_ | +1, wondering about e-mail to others | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | sure, emails and everything will go out | 14:34 |
| flaper87 | ok, that's it on this topic | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | make a lite spec, we discuss about it few months and we are safe to disagree ;) | 14:34 |
| kairat_ | heh | 14:35 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: speaking of lite specs, weren't you going to propose a plan or something? :P | 14:35 |
| * flaper87 ducks | 14:35 | |
| flaper87 | #topic Return request id to caller (rsjethani) | 14:35 |
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| flaper87 | rsjethani: around? | 14:35 |
| rsjethani | yup | 14:35 |
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| rsjethani | I think the work on return-request id to caller is in good shape. | 14:36 |
| rsjethani | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261288 | 14:36 |
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| jokke_ | flaper87: on-off on it when ever I have energy hopefully I have the proposalt together soon enough | 14:36 |
| rsjethani | It seems a good candidate to be merged in mitaka time frame | 14:36 |
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| flaper87 | rsjethani: sounds good! | 14:36 |
| mclaren | I'll try to take a look | 14:37 |
| kairat_ | just my 5 cents, we have a cross-proj spec about that | 14:37 |
| kairat_ | and unfortunately we don't follow it | 14:37 |
| kairat_ | because of our validation | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | rsjethani: for future cases like this. We always try to keep review requests for Open discussions. | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | rsjethani: nothing bad with your request, though. | 14:37 |
| rsjethani | flaper87: ok | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | kairat_: does that patch fix such inconsistency? | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | I haven't looked into it with enough details | 14:38 |
| kairat_ | Nope, we still doing request id in "glance" way | 14:38 |
| kairat_ | I don't see anything bad with it | 14:38 |
| kairat_ | but looks like our validation leads to troubles from time to time | 14:38 |
| flaper87 | kairat_: ok, something to fix. It'd be great to have a bug opened for that so we can discuss this further | 14:38 |
| kairat_ | I better describe it in review | 14:39 |
| flaper87 | ok | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: the mentioned was discussed when the req-id cross project work was done | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | flaper87: unifying us basically breaks our API | 14:39 |
| flaper87 | jokke_: ahhh now I remember | 14:39 |
| flaper87 | thanks for the heads up | 14:40 |
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| flaper87 | ok, anything else? | 14:40 |
| mclaren | interestingly there was a mail suggesting the other projects do it our way...but too late | 14:40 |
| rsjethani | nope. thats it. Ty all | 14:40 |
| flaper87 | #topic Heirarchial Image access ( nikhil ) | 14:40 |
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| nikhil | o/ | 14:40 |
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| nikhil | I got a WIP spec for this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281599/ ( | 14:41 |
| nikhil | please take a look at the tasks | 14:41 |
| nikhil | that should explain the amount of work is pretty small | 14:41 |
| nikhil | I thought the only reason this sort of work would need a full spec is for API change in the schema | 14:42 |
| nikhil | otherwise, it's straightforward approach | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | fair enough. I'd agree changes on the schema requires a full spec | 14:42 |
| flaper87 | coolio, thanks for putting that up | 14:42 |
| nikhil | np | 14:43 |
| mclaren | nikhil any chance of an example problem in the spec? | 14:43 |
| nikhil | mclaren: sure, I will put that up. working on the formal description of the problem statement and one corner case | 14:43 |
| mclaren | what's there is a bit too abstract for me :-) | 14:43 |
| mclaren | thanks | 14:43 |
| nikhil | I can understand | 14:44 |
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| nikhil | that's it from me | 14:44 |
| flaper87 | oki | 14:44 |
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| flaper87 | #topic Open Discussion | 14:44 |
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| flaper87 | We've plenty of time for open discussions today | 14:44 |
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| flaper87 | FYI, glance_store 0.11.0 is out | 14:44 |
| flaper87 | Please, keep an eye on gates and possible failures | 14:45 |
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| jokke_ | I'd like to make cry out now | 14:45 |
| flaper87 | shoot | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | Please people start filling the reno files with your commits | 14:45 |
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| jokke_ | I realized that we had next to none on that 0.11.0 release and they will be required for the releases so we get release notes out | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | ++ | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | Yup | 14:46 |
| nikhil | wait, I thought the release notes were pretty thorough | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | and reviewers, keep an eye on that | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | I think review wise now is good time to start -1 things that does not have release notes included | 14:46 |
| kairat_ | Ok | 14:46 |
| nikhil | umm, may be not!? | 14:47 |
| flaper87 | everything that requires upgrade changes, deprecations, new features, etc is worth a release note | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | + any user impacting bugfixes | 14:47 |
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| flaper87 | ok, anything else? | 14:48 |
| flaper87 | otherwise I'll close the meeting earlier | 14:48 |
| kairat_ | flaper87, open discussion | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | hang on | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | got something | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | kairat_: we are in open discussion | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | kairat_: you go first | 14:49 |
| kairat_ | ah, ok | 14:49 |
| kairat_ | guys please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251851/ | 14:49 |
| kairat_ | I would like to finish work with trusts in Mitaka | 14:49 |
| kairat_ | But doesn't have any valuable reviews | 14:49 |
| kairat_ | So if you have some time | 14:49 |
| flaper87 | ah that reminds me! Yes, ppl, please, provide reviews on features | 14:50 |
| kairat_ | it would perfect | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | we need to land those asap | 14:50 |
| kairat_ | especially mclaren | 14:50 |
| mclaren | heh, ok | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | I've been pinging some folks on some reviews to get feedback on | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | pls, keep an eye on those | 14:50 |
| kairat_ | Ok, that;s all from me | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | image import update patch is available for your +1/+2 pleasure: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278086/ | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | also | 14:50 |
| mfedosin | when it's merged we can start using swiftclient service in our driver | 14:50 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: ++ | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | this is related to a metadefs patch, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265152/ | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | the names of http headers are case-insensitive according to the standard | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | glance v1 transmits image properties in headers | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | v1 client gives you image property names in all lowercase | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | if you use v1 client, not http directly, you expect image property names to be all lowercase | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | v2 transmits image properties in response body, so they are cased however they were defined by the user who created the property | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | so for property "CamelCasedProp", v1 -> camelcasedprop , v2 -> CamelCasedProp, and in nova API -> camelcasedprop | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | two questions: | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | (1) mfedosin: what will happen to nova api response with your v1->v2 work? | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | (2) should we be advising people always to treat glance image properties as case-insensitive? | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | (3) or is this not a big deal? | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | so i guess that's 3 questions | 14:51 |
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| flaper87 | I'm for (2) | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: are they case-insensitive in database? | 14:52 |
| mclaren | we probably can't change the behaviour now | 14:52 |
| nikhil | I think we take them as is | 14:52 |
| flaper87 | We can't change it and we've kinda treated them case-insensitive on glance | 14:53 |
| mclaren | would 'v1 is case insensitive' 'v2 is case sensitive' be ok? | 14:53 |
| jokke_ | does glance allow you to set CamelCasedProp and camelcasedprop to same image? | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: actually, it's a mess in the db | 14:53 |
| flaper87 | hahahaha | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | at least in my devstack, dupes are blocked by an index | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | i need to file a bug | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | so if you have CamelCase and then delete that prop | 14:54 |
| nikhil | would this be affected by the table type and or DB type? | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | you cannot add camelcase | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | but you can add CamelCase back | 14:54 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: pls do, that way we can discuss it there in more detail | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: possibly, have not investigated enough yet | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | flaper87: ok | 14:54 |
| nikhil | I think it might be worth asking PG folks too | 14:54 |
| mfedosin | rosmaita: oh, I don't lower them | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | this might be rabbit hole we do not want to dig too deep :P | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | mfedosin: thanks | 14:55 |
| mfedosin | I think I should | 14:55 |
| nikhil | agree, we need to | 14:55 |
| mfedosin | but how can we send it back? | 14:55 |
| mfedosin | from Nova to glance v2 | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | i only came across this because of the patch i linked above | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | i always use lowercase | 14:56 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: etherpad would be nice with your findings :) | 14:56 |
| mclaren | We may just end up documenting the behaviour here. Any changes could potentially trip someonce up. | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | ok, i will put something together and send to ML | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | I'd prefer a bug | 14:56 |
| nikhil | I am still not getting mfedosin and would like this full usecase | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: or ML | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | mclaren: ++ | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | ok but it is | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | *bug | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | 4mins left | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | anything else? | 14:57 |
| nikhil | Can we keep a review day on Wed, Mar 9th? | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | question though, what to do about this in the meantime: | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265152/ | 14:57 |
| nikhil | #startvote Can we keep a review day on Wed, Mar 9th? (yes, no, maybe) | 14:57 |
| kairat_ | nikhil, Is it hackaton day? | 14:57 |
| openstack | Only the meeting chair may start a vote. | 14:57 |
| nikhil | kairat_: yeah | 14:57 |
| kairat_ | seems reasonable | 14:57 |
| nikhil | I prefer triaging cores reviewing them on the final hack day | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | nikhil: I think we can, I was thinking we could do it on Monday but if we can align with the hakaton day, that's better | 14:57 |
| jokke_ | I won't be much available on 9th | 14:57 |
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| kairat_ | ah, sorry | 14:58 |
| mclaren | metadefs are v2 only, so are they affected? | 14:58 |
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| rosmaita | mclaren: it's got to do with the property names they "suggest" | 14:58 |
| nikhil | flaper87: sounds good | 14:58 |
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| kairat_ | ah, ok, it is working day in Russia | 14:59 |
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| flaper87 | ok, time's up | 14:59 |
| flaper87 | Thanks everyone | 14:59 |
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| flaper87 | tty next week | 14:59 |
| nikhil | kairat_: cool! | 14:59 |
| jokke_ | thanks all | 14:59 |
| kairat_ | thanks | 14:59 |
| nikhil | thx | 14:59 |
| flaper87 | rosmaita: let us know when the bug is ready | 14:59 |
| flaper87 | I'll look for your email on the ML | 14:59 |
| flaper87 | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 18 14:59:41 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-02-18-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-02-18-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-02-18-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
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| TravT | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 18 15:01:10 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TravT. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:01 |
| nikhil | o/ | 15:01 |
| TravT | Hello! | 15:01 |
| yingjun | o/ | 15:01 |
| lei-zh | o/ | 15:01 |
| sjmc7 | hey | 15:01 |
| RickA-HP_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| TravT | FYI rosmaita just said he'll be 10 - 15 mins late (depending on icy road conditions) | 15:01 |
| TravT | Agenda is here, feel free to add to it: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:02 |
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| TravT | #topic general updates | 15:02 |
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| TravT | Time is getting tight. | 15:02 |
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| TravT | http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html | 15:02 |
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| TravT | I think we'll need to be considering a few feature freeze exceptions | 15:03 |
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| TravT | we can evaluate that in a week or so | 15:03 |
| TravT | #topic client release schedule | 15:03 |
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| TravT | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/086362.html | 15:04 |
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| TravT | Of note in that email: Final release for client libraries: Mar 2 | 15:04 |
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| yingjun | There is only one patch under review for client: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275046/ | 15:05 |
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| TravT | yingjun: thanks for updating it today | 15:05 |
| TravT | i'll definitely review it later | 15:05 |
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| sjmc7 | yep, me too. i think that gets us to the minimal set of stuff we wanted to do | 15:06 |
| TravT | i think so too, but i'm wondering about versioning, backwards compatibility, and deprecation. | 15:06 |
| TravT | we haven't yet decided if searchlight itself will stay 0.2 as it has been tagged thus far or will go to 1.0. | 15:07 |
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| TravT | so, i'm not sure we should tag client as anything more than 0.1 or 0.2, both due to the service and due to us wanting one more release for wiggle room on the CLI | 15:08 |
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| sjmc7 | i’d be fine with that | 15:08 |
| TravT | we should look back at this again | 15:09 |
| TravT | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226157/ | 15:09 |
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| * TravT briefly reading | 15:09 | |
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| sjmc7 | so we have to make sure we don’t break stuff? we can do that | 15:10 |
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| TravT | i think that's the gist of it... | 15:11 |
| TravT | but my other concern is that we have no external feedback on the CLI itself | 15:11 |
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| sjmc7 | it’s the first version | 15:12 |
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| sjmc7 | if we have to make changes, we’ll make them | 15:12 |
| TravT | so, maybe planning to tag it at 0.2 will make sense | 15:12 |
| TravT | yingjun: any thoughts here? | 15:12 |
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| yingjun | no, 0.2 is ok for me | 15:13 |
| TravT | So also as FYI | 15:13 |
| TravT | there is a standard deprecation policy tag | 15:13 |
| TravT | we haven't asserted it for searchlight yet | 15:13 |
| TravT | https://openstack.nimeyo.com/60351/openstack-asserting-projects-follow-least-deprecation-policy | 15:14 |
| TravT | but it is something that deployers will likely consider | 15:14 |
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| TravT | so, the versions we use (pre-1.0) aren't quite as important as understanding whether or not we follow deprecation and using semver | 15:16 |
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| TravT | so major bump 0.1 to 1.0 signifies non-compatible changes | 15:16 |
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| TravT | http://semver.org/ | 15:16 |
| sjmc7 | i think more it signifies that from that point on we’re following deprecation and semver | 15:17 |
| RickA-HP_ | TravT: Does a major bump in the version always imply a non-compatible change? | 15:17 |
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| TravT | RickA-HP_: i don't think strictly | 15:17 |
| TravT | because many project increment the full version with each openstack release | 15:17 |
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| TravT | they used to follow kind of a versioning that tracked the release year and milestone | 15:18 |
| TravT | e.g. 2012.1.x for first release in 2012 | 15:18 |
| TravT | 2012.2.x for second | 15:18 |
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| TravT | but i think with liberty most projects switched to semver notation and just automatically jumped to a release number that equated to the number of release cycles they'd been a part of | 15:19 |
| TravT | so things like nova went to 12.x.x and horizon went to 8.x.x | 15:19 |
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| TravT | http://releases.openstack.org/ | 15:20 |
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| TravT | see here are kilo numbers: http://releases.openstack.org/kilo/index.html | 15:20 |
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| TravT | Here are liberty numbers: http://releases.openstack.org/liberty/index.html | 15:20 |
| TravT | and here are current mitaka numbers: http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/index.html | 15:21 |
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| rosmaita | the client versions are all over the place | 15:21 |
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| TravT | rosmaita: yeah, there doesn't seem to be any correlation | 15:22 |
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| rosmaita | which is a true observation, but not very helpful | 15:23 |
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| TravT | i see the project senlin went straight to a 1.0. | 15:23 |
| TravT | in liberty | 15:23 |
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| TravT | from mailing list, it looks like dev started pre-liberty though | 15:23 |
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| TravT | i think at this point, i'm inclined to bump the searchlight service to 1.0 | 15:24 |
| TravT | and just start incrementing major every single release like other projects | 15:24 |
| TravT | but hold off on deprecation policy tag for another release | 15:25 |
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| TravT | we have about two weeks to finalize on that decision | 15:25 |
| TravT | but how does that "feel" to everybody? | 15:25 |
| nikhil | If we use Semver then it should | 15:26 |
| RickA-HP_ | I like the bump to 1.0 for the version. Is there a reason to not apply the deprecation tag? | 15:26 |
| nikhil | be straightforward, no? | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | i’m pretty ambivalent about versioning, i can go either way. i kind of feel like until we’ve got more real world usage a 1.0 tag is premature but i don’t feel that strongly about it | 15:26 |
| TravT | well, if you think about semver | 15:27 |
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| TravT | we have already made some major changes since liberty. | 15:27 |
| rosmaita | sjmc7: you have expressed my feelings exactly | 15:27 |
| TravT | so major version increment seems to apply | 15:27 |
| nikhil | the thing is incr major would result into more scrutiny in community | 15:28 |
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| sjmc7 | which is good and bad :) | 15:28 |
| rosmaita | nikhil: ++ | 15:28 |
| TravT | nikhil: and that could be a good thing or a bad thing depending on how you look at it. | 15:28 |
| rosmaita | yep | 15:29 |
| TravT | sjmc7: :) | 15:29 |
| nikhil | :) | 15:29 |
| rosmaita | we seem to have a consensus here! it's good or bad! | 15:29 |
| TravT | well at least we have that figured out | 15:29 |
| sjmc7 | :) | 15:29 |
| TravT | :D | 15:29 |
| rosmaita | i don't seem to be bringing a lot of value to this discussion | 15:30 |
| * TravT disagrees | 15:30 | |
| nikhil | me too | 15:30 |
| TravT | ok well at least is seems we can agree that client will be 0.2? | 15:30 |
| nikhil | don't bring value | 15:30 |
| sjmc7 | agreeing with me is always valuable! yeah, i can go with 0.2 | 15:31 |
| TravT | okay. | 15:31 |
| nikhil | sjmc7: ++ | 15:31 |
| TravT | well, we'll review that last patch from yingjun | 15:31 |
| TravT | i have not explicitly tested the client with just v2 and just v3 keystone | 15:31 |
| rosmaita | 0.2 lgtm, too | 15:32 |
| TravT | have you done that yingjun? | 15:32 |
| TravT | #agreed (initial python-searchlightclient will be version 0.2) | 15:32 |
| yingjun | yes, all tested, didn’t find any issue yet | 15:33 |
| TravT | okay, great! | 15:33 |
| TravT | allright, next topic | 15:33 |
| TravT | #topic searchlight panel | 15:34 |
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| TravT | i haven't set up a repo for it separate from horizon yet | 15:34 |
| TravT | it is still two patches deep in the patch chain on horizon | 15:34 |
| TravT | the other patches being ones that definitely need to be in core horizon | 15:34 |
| TravT | but the horizon mid cycle is next week | 15:35 |
| TravT | so will be lobbying hard to get those two parent patches in | 15:35 |
| TravT | making it more reasonable to separate out | 15:35 |
| TravT | i'll go ahead and put in the governance request change for the repo though | 15:36 |
| TravT | we have a really nice demo we'll be doing of it at the horizon midcycle | 15:36 |
| TravT | i will see about making a youtube version of it as well to share with everybody | 15:36 |
| TravT | (after next week) | 15:36 |
| TravT | that's all for that | 15:37 |
| TravT | #topic blueprints and reviews | 15:37 |
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| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:%255E.*searchlight.*+status:open,n,z | 15:37 |
| TravT | So top priorities in reviews IMO: | 15:37 |
| TravT | Support DSL query for the query CLI | 15:38 |
| TravT | Fix role based indexing for designate | 15:38 |
| TravT | Use external version to ensure index updates | 15:38 |
| TravT | Zero Downtime Re-indexing changes | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | external versioning is the one that most worries me on that list | 15:38 |
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| TravT | lei-zh: are you here? | 15:39 |
| lei-zh | yes | 15:39 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255751/ | 15:39 |
| sjmc7 | there’ve been some roadbumps along the way | 15:39 |
| sjmc7 | it feels like it’s close but i don’t know how we get it done - lei-zh, would it help to discuss anything here? | 15:39 |
| sjmc7 | or perhaps if i come online later tonight (my time, your morning)? | 15:40 |
| lei-zh | most things happen in glance plugins | 15:40 |
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| sjmc7 | yep :) | 15:40 |
| lei-zh | the doc consists of different resources, which sometimes we cannot get a acurrate version when updating | 15:42 |
| sjmc7 | specifically image members? | 15:42 |
| lei-zh | also metadef things I think | 15:43 |
| lei-zh | like properties | 15:43 |
| TravT | so images first | 15:43 |
| TravT | are you thinking members should be child plugin to images? | 15:43 |
| lei-zh | I think they should be separated | 15:44 |
| sjmc7 | the alternative to that would be forcing an update from the glance API? | 15:44 |
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| sjmc7 | so on an image member change, reindex the image entirely | 15:44 |
| sjmc7 | i dislike having image member be its own entity | 15:45 |
| TravT | this would then make the rbac query filter for images be something like (total pseudo of course) or has_child match project id | 15:45 |
| sjmc7 | it seems like an implementation detail leaking into the model | 15:45 |
| TravT | that would slow it down a little because child queries are a little slower according to ES docs | 15:45 |
| sjmc7 | it’s not speed that concerns me particularly, more complexity | 15:46 |
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| sjmc7 | the problem is that the image updated_at timestamp doesn’t change when image members are added or deleted | 15:47 |
| lei-zh | the problem is if we try to use external version, we should keep using it all the time | 15:47 |
| lei-zh | if a member changes, we still don't have a new image version, because nothing changes in image | 15:48 |
| TravT | so sjmc7 this seems to lead towards separating them, but i'm not sure based on your comments whether you are advocating for parent child or for keeping them together | 15:48 |
| sjmc7 | i would prefer to keep them together, trying to think of how | 15:49 |
| rosmaita | would it help if glance updated the image updated_at on a member change? | 15:49 |
| sjmc7 | yes | 15:49 |
| sjmc7 | that would solve all | 15:49 |
| sjmc7 | great rejoicing etc | 15:49 |
| TravT | less gnashing of the teeth | 15:49 |
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| rosmaita | i will file a bug and see what happens | 15:50 |
| rosmaita | too bad the glance meeting already happened this morning | 15:50 |
| sjmc7 | ok. in the meantime, one thing we could do is a scripted update without a version, which will increment by one | 15:50 |
| TravT | that would be good... because then at least the glance team can debate on whether or not this is intended functionality for glance | 15:51 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah.. but we need an interim solution | 15:51 |
| sjmc7 | first off, am i incorrect to want to keep them together? | 15:51 |
| nikhil | a version/increment update on the value would need a test and set | 15:52 |
| nikhil | and that would require a temp column in the table | 15:52 |
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| nikhil | so, I doubt if this is small change | 15:52 |
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| TravT | well, this meets the criteria of a parent child relationship... but what I really don't like about it is that it becomes a new resource type that will now show up in search results potentially unless we exclude them by default | 15:53 |
| sjmc7 | is keeping them separate going to be better? image members don’t need to be their own plugin | 15:53 |
| sjmc7 | just because they’re child documents for update purposes doesn’t mean making them a whole plugin | 15:53 |
| TravT | sjmc7: that's true | 15:54 |
| sjmc7 | they are useless on their own, ergo i don’t think they should be a full plugin | 15:54 |
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| lei-zh | I think current datastructure makes sense, the only reason to seperate is the external version thing | 15:54 |
| sjmc7 | me too, but i can’t think of a good solution other than allowing the version increment behavior | 15:55 |
| sjmc7 | which maybe that’s ok? | 15:55 |
| TravT | for visibility testing in the UI (I just wrote the new angular filter for standard glance in horizon) we have to have image members in the result | 15:55 |
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| TravT | well i take that back | 15:55 |
| TravT | we derive it | 15:55 |
| sjmc7 | lei-zh: how about this - for now, we making updating image members a special case where we do an update without specifying the version (which will increment by one) | 15:55 |
| sjmc7 | since we’re only removing or adding the individual id it should be ok | 15:56 |
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| sjmc7 | if we REALLY need to do so we can store the timestamps with each member | 15:57 |
| sjmc7 | and only update when appropriate, although for deletes that will be difficult | 15:57 |
| lei-zh | it may have a rare chance that it will conflict with other image updates? | 15:58 |
| sjmc7 | not really | 15:58 |
| TravT | sjmc7: so basically this takes the chance of other image update conflict down to 1 millisecond | 15:58 |
| sjmc7 | incrementing by 1 is equal to a nanosecond after the previous update | 15:58 |
| sjmc7 | or.. yeah, millisecond i guess. but after the last notification | 15:58 |
| lei-zh | yes, very rare | 15:58 |
| sjmc7 | so any REAL image update will overwrite it | 15:58 |
| sjmc7 | becaues the image timestamp will be older | 15:58 |
| sjmc7 | errr.. younger, sorry | 15:59 |
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| TravT | this seems reasonable to me. | 15:59 |
| sjmc7 | i would like to get the patch in and fix specific edge cases separately | 15:59 |
| TravT | as long as there aren't 400000 member updates | 15:59 |
| sjmc7 | this seems like a reasonable compromise | 15:59 |
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| sjmc7 | time’s up | 16:00 |
| TravT | out of time here, can we jump over to #openstack-searchlight to finish? | 16:00 |
| sjmc7 | lei-zh: can you stick around for a few more minutes to talk about metadefs? | 16:00 |
| lei-zh | ok, I think it's the quickest way to solve it. | 16:00 |
| TravT | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| sjmc7 | in #openstack-searchlight? | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 18 16:00:29 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-02-18-15.01.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-02-18-15.01.txt | 16:00 |
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| pcarver | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 18 17:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is pcarver. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| johnsom | o/ | 17:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:00 |
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| pcarver | Cathy is at a conference today and maybe other people so this may be a brief meeting | 17:00 |
| pcarver | Cathy was considering cancelling, but I said I'd at least start the meeting and see if there were enough participants to be worthwhile. | 17:01 |
| s3wong | hello | 17:01 |
| LouisF | pcarver: hi | 17:01 |
| pcarver | s3wong, LouisF: hi | 17:01 |
| LouisF | are there any topics we need to discuss? | 17:01 |
| pcarver | I personally was travelling last week and barely am caught up so I have nothing | 17:02 |
| s3wong | nothing from my end neither... | 17:02 |
| pcarver | I did see a few bug notifications but haven't looked at them. Has anyone else? | 17:02 |
| LouisF | we were going to discuss next steps and enhancements | 17:02 |
| LouisF | probably better if we have a larger group | 17:03 |
| s3wong | LouisF: +1 --- especially when cathy_ isn't here... | 17:04 |
| pcarver | LouisF: probably better to wait if there aren't more people | 17:04 |
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| LouisF | ok lets wrap... | 17:05 |
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| pcarver | Ok, I'll end the meeting if no one has any urgent topics that can't wait until we get more attendees next week. | 17:05 |
| LouisF | +1 | 17:05 |
| pcarver | #endmeeting | 17:06 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 18 17:06:12 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:06 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-02-18-17.00.html | 17:06 |
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