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| markus_z | #startmeeting nova-bugs-team | 10:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 15 10:00:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markus_z. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 10:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 10:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova-bugs-team)" | 10:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_bugs_team' | 10:00 |
| markus_z | So, anyone around? | 10:00 |
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| markus_z | no one? | 10:02 |
| markus_z | hm, too bad. I use the time then to do some clean up tasks described at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage | 10:04 |
| markus_z | #link A dashboard which can help with the cleanup tasks: http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html | 10:05 |
| markus_z | #endmeeting | 10:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 10:07 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 15 10:07:28 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:07 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-03-15-10.00.html | 10:07 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-03-15-10.00.txt | 10:07 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_bugs_team/2016/nova_bugs_team.2016-03-15-10.00.log.html | 10:07 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit had to be restarted because was not responsive. As a consequence, some of the test results have been lost, from 08:30 UTC to 10:30 UTC approximately. Please recheck any affected jobs by this problem. | 11:33 | |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit had to be restarted because was not responsive. As a consequence, some of the test results have been lost, from 09:30 UTC to 11:30 UTC approximately. Please recheck any affected jobs by this problem. | 11:36 | |
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| EmilienM | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 15 15:01:14 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 15:01 |
| mfisch | morning | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | #link agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-openstack-weekly-meeting-20160315 | 15:01 |
| degorenko | hey :) | 15:01 |
| chem | o/ | 15:01 |
| _ody | o/ | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | wow wehave items this week | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | let's start | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | #topic trove external repos | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "trove external repos (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:02 | |
| clayton | o/ | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: o/ | 15:02 |
| mfisch | hey | 15:02 |
| mfisch | okay so this came up as we looked into using Trove | 15:02 |
| mwhahaha | hi | 15:02 |
| mfisch | tesora have their own repo that it would be nice to add support for, but I saw in a previous neutron review that we've dropped external repos? | 15:02 |
| mfisch | whats the policy? | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | what do they provide? | 15:02 |
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| EmilienM | mfisch: https://openstack.nimeyo.com/60184/openstack-puppet-should-puppet-neutron-manage-party-software | 15:03 |
| mfisch | they do more frequent releases amongst other things | 15:03 |
| mfisch | not a great comparison but like redhat enterprise to centos | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | you want to enable third party repos to install a more recent version of Trove? | 15:03 |
| mfisch | abramley: can you explain better ^ | 15:04 |
| mwhahaha | we could add it into openstack_extras? | 15:04 |
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| EmilienM | it's sounds very odd to me. | 15:04 |
| mfisch | it could be an optional repo | 15:04 |
| mfisch | rather than forking the module I think it's preferred | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | they should rather contribute to RDO or UCA, which are supposed to be official packaging, isn't? | 15:04 |
| mfisch | something like $use_tesora_repo | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: is package name & service name the same? | 15:05 |
| mfisch | good question | 15:05 |
| mfisch | service names yes, package names no | 15:05 |
| abramley | Tesora is a commercial offering based on trove | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | if yes, just do it in your composition layer | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | theere is no way we enable commercial things in our repositories. | 15:05 |
| mfisch | in order to avoid a fork at a minimum we need to make the package names configurable | 15:05 |
| mfisch | then yes, operators could do their own repo managament | 15:05 |
| mwhahaha | sounds like our uca vs deb package name conversation again | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | yes, exactly | 15:06 |
| mfisch | remind me the outcome of that? | 15:06 |
| mwhahaha | we are using the os_package_type fact for that but that doesn't make sense for this | 15:06 |
| mwhahaha | the original idea proposed was to create a globals class that you could override package names | 15:06 |
| clayton | that worked because your names match the debian names exactly | 15:07 |
| mfisch | I was thinking package names would need to be parameters | 15:07 |
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| mfisch | there's what 3 main packages for trove? | 15:07 |
| clayton | this is a similar situation in that tesora is basically an alternate distro for just trove | 15:07 |
| abramley | yes | 15:07 |
| mwhahaha | you could just Package <| title == 'trove' |> { name => 'whatever' } in your composition layer | 15:07 |
| mfisch | thats a good way to explain | 15:07 |
| degorenko | +1 to mwhahaha way | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | no, 4 at least | 15:07 |
| abramley | we keep the same package structure - api, conductor, taskmanager | 15:07 |
| mwhahaha | could automagically do such things in an openstack_extras class where it sets up the repo | 15:08 |
| EmilienM | abramley: same service name? | 15:08 |
| abramley | yes - same service names | 15:08 |
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| EmilienM | if service/package names are same as in UCA, there is no need to patch puppet-trove. | 15:09 |
| mfisch | package names are not | 15:09 |
| mfisch | I said above | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | so the question is whether allow openstack_extras to have a class that setup the repo or let people manage that in their composition layer | 15:09 |
| mfisch | tesora-dbaas-common_1.6.2-614_all.deb | 15:09 |
| mfisch | tesora-dbaas-api_1.7.0-93_all.deb | 15:09 |
| mfisch | etc | 15:09 |
| mwhahaha | so override them with the spaceship | 15:09 |
| EmilienM | right, you don't need to fork puppet-trove for that | 15:10 |
| mfisch | just provide some guidance to folks to make it easy to use | 15:10 |
| mfisch | we already have a large comp layer so its easy to add there | 15:10 |
| mwhahaha | so if we create a tesora class in openstack_extras that sets up the repo and puts in the package name overrides, it would be an easy to implement thing for anyone who wants it | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: you could patch puppet-trove/examples/tesora.pp with an example of manifest that add the repo and change package name and deploy trove | 15:11 |
| mfisch | whats the argument for putting it there? just because we manage other repos there? | 15:11 |
| mwhahaha | include openstack_extras::repo::tesora or something | 15:11 |
| mwhahaha | yea | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: if we do that, we'll have to accept other third party repos | 15:11 |
| EmilienM | something we kind of rejected in the past with https://openstack.nimeyo.com/60184/openstack-puppet-should-puppet-neutron-manage-party-software | 15:12 |
| mwhahaha | only as part of the puppet-neutron | 15:12 |
| mwhahaha | i would say -1 to putting it in puppet-trove | 15:12 |
| clayton | EmilienM: I think plugins and distros are different cases | 15:12 |
| EmilienM | I don't mind enabling tesora repos then | 15:12 |
| mfisch | so we'll do it in openstack-extras | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: ok for openstack_extras::repo::tesora | 15:13 |
| mfisch | with package spaceships there too? | 15:13 |
| mfisch | for lack of a better way to explain ^ | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: optionally, yes | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | that you can disable with a boolean | 15:13 |
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| mfisch | thanks | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | abramley: why not re-using ubuntu package names? | 15:13 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: cool, sounds like a good approach. | 15:14 |
| abramley | at the time I seem to remember it was a branding thing more than anything else | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | #action mfish to create openstack_extras::repo::tesora | 15:14 |
| EmilienM | mfisch: anything else? | 15:15 |
| mfisch | thats it on that | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | abramley: good, no problem | 15:15 |
| mfisch | that action may take awhile btw just due to priorities | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | #topic move some functions from puppet-openstacklib to puppetlabs-stdlib | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "move some functions from puppet-openstacklib to puppetlabs-stdlib (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:15 | |
| EmilienM | I've noticed some of our functions could be move to upstream puppet | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | chem created one recently about ipv6 | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | Hunner, _ody: would it make sense to you? | 15:16 |
| chem | normalize_ip_for_uri would be a good candidate | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | for example https://github.com/openstack/puppet-openstacklib/blob/master/lib/puppet/parser/functions/normalize_ip_for_uri.rb | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | chem: we might need to support array too | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | I've been playing with our CI to deploy IPv6 and I had to use it | 15:16 |
| EmilienM | chem: can you engage the move maybe? | 15:17 |
| chem | EmilienM:this is not a problem | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | #action chem move normalize_ip_for_uri to puppetlabs-stdlib and support array | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | chem: thx | 15:17 |
| chem | EmilienM: Yep, will make the feature request on puppetlab side no problem | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | nice, ping Hunner or _ody when done, so we can get it soon | 15:17 |
| _ody | EmilienM: yeah. Our functions are good and robust and obviously solve issues. | 15:17 |
| chem | ack | 15:17 |
| EmilienM | #topic release status | 15:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release status (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:18 | |
| EmilienM | so just some fyi : | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | I'm working this week on Mitaka release notes for modules that will get release | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | #link release doc https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XVrmEiLrJSdxDo-S_vFB7ljxTdYg-pe8hiMUryRor5A/edit#gid=1966527233&vpid=A1 | 15:18 |
| EmilienM | Ubuntu confirmed they'll cut their stable release soon after the official release | 15:19 |
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| EmilienM | so, 8.0.0 (Mitaka) should be release almost in same time as other projects | 15:20 |
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| EmilienM | if you have anything you need in stable/mitaka before the cut, let us know | 15:20 |
| _ody | Wow. Like first time ever, isn't it? | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | _ody: yeah, we're getting better | 15:20 |
| _ody | Well packaging only started keeping up in the last couple cycles. | 15:20 |
| EmilienM | our CI is robust enought to certify you can deploy Mitaka, so I don't see the need to wait more | 15:21 |
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| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to write release notes with reno for our modules | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | just a reminder about reno, I'm not pushing people to write release notes when they send patches, but please do it if you like me | 15:21 |
| EmilienM | during Newton cycle, we need to start to push people using it a little bit more | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | so if you fix a bug, bring a feature, please add a release note, it takes 30 seconds. | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | #link reno doc http://docs.openstack.org/developer/reno/usage.html | 15:22 |
| EmilienM | any question / feedback about releases ? | 15:22 |
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| degorenko | EmilienM, we can add some check for this | 15:23 |
| degorenko | so if we have patch and don't have updated notes -1 :D | 15:23 |
| degorenko | for job | 15:23 |
| EmilienM | that's tough | 15:23 |
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| degorenko | since newton i guess we can add (if need) | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | I think we want to educate by gently asking people to do it, by showing the right example | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | so if our core team follows this path | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | I'm sure other will get educated over the time | 15:24 |
| EmilienM | but I won't -1 someone who miss it | 15:24 |
| degorenko | i like this way | 15:25 |
| EmilienM | #topic Open Discussion, Bug and Review triage (submit modules to triage here) | 15:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion, Bug and Review triage (submit modules to triage here) (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 15:25 | |
| mwhahaha | don't forget to follow up with a ML email about reno for newton :) | 15:25 |
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| mwhahaha | cause i'm so going to forget | 15:25 |
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| degorenko | good point, to notify people via mail | 15:26 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: right | 15:26 |
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| EmilienM | #action EmilienM to follow-up on ML about reno & releases | 15:26 |
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| EmilienM | degorenko: so let's start triage | 15:26 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: puppet-heat? | 15:26 |
| degorenko | yep | 15:27 |
| degorenko | so | 15:27 |
| degorenko | it's about version less | 15:27 |
| degorenko | https://review.openstack.org/261326 | 15:27 |
| _ody | I've noticed recently that some failing CI patches have old tests gates assigned to them. If you rebasse or ammend your commit, you'll get the newest set that are more likely to pass. | 15:27 |
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| degorenko | also we have one more patch from Gael | 15:27 |
| degorenko | and it seems like we need to mix our patches into one | 15:27 |
| skolekonov | Probably we should also think about moving heat to auth plugins? | 15:27 |
| degorenko | we can try to do it, yes | 15:28 |
| EmilienM | skolekonov: can it be done in a further iteration? or should it be done in the same patch? | 15:28 |
| EmilienM | are the patches exclusive? | 15:28 |
| skolekonov | We will need to deprecate identity_uri. So probably one patch makes sense | 15:29 |
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| EmilienM | ok | 15:29 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: ok to change that? | 15:29 |
| degorenko | my patch is for auth_uri and indentity but it won't work without a couple trustee params and client_uri | 15:29 |
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| degorenko | that is implemented by Gael patch | 15:29 |
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| degorenko | we with dmburmistrov tested it, it works when both patches is on repo | 15:30 |
| EmilienM | do we need to stash both patches in one? | 15:30 |
| degorenko | yes | 15:30 |
| EmilienM | ping gael about it, and make sure you agree on that, but I don't see any problem | 15:31 |
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| EmilienM | if we need to stash, go ahead, and make it clear in commit message | 15:31 |
| degorenko | ok, i will ping gael then | 15:31 |
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| EmilienM | mfisch: keystone hook | 15:32 |
| EmilienM | I think your patch need further work, regarding degorenko's review | 15:32 |
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| degorenko | i also have one more request for review :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291709/ | 15:33 |
| mfisch | EmilienM: yep | 15:33 |
| mfisch | EmilienM: I am going to look today | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | iberezovskiy: excellent work on oslo | 15:33 |
| EmilienM | the code LGTM, I'm waiting for CI | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | I'm glad you're working on that, it was kind of staled lately | 15:34 |
| iberezovskiy | EmilienM, as you can see I've also started to switch nova to it | 15:34 |
| iberezovskiy | so, I wanna ask one thing, do we need to keep qpid https://github.com/openstack/puppet-nova/blob/master/manifests/init.pp#L616 ? | 15:34 |
| EmilienM | AFIK qpid is dead in Oslo meesaging | 15:35 |
| degorenko | yep | 15:35 |
| degorenko | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:deprecate_qpid | 15:35 |
| EmilienM | mwhahaha: can you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292638/ please? | 15:35 |
| degorenko | i'm done with deprecation it for liberty some time ago | 15:35 |
| mwhahaha | sure | 15:35 |
| EmilienM | iberezovskiy: so in a separated patch, we need to drop qpid everywhere | 15:35 |
| degorenko | now it can be fully removed in mitaka i guess | 15:35 |
| EmilienM | with parameter deprecation to keep our users happy | 15:35 |
| dims | EmilienM : replaced with QPid/Proton + pyngus python library | 15:35 |
| iberezovskiy | ok, it'll be a separate patch | 15:36 |
| degorenko | dims, can you provide some docs for Proton? | 15:36 |
| iberezovskiy | also I'll start working on other modules to switch to oslo | 15:36 |
| EmilienM | degorenko: Qpid has been replaced by Proton + pyngus, right? | 15:36 |
| degorenko | EmilienM, this question i guess is going to dims | 15:37 |
| dims | degorenko http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.messaging/AMQP1.0.html | 15:37 |
| EmilienM | dims: ^ yeah sorry | 15:37 |
| dims | y, we have a new driver | 15:38 |
| degorenko | then we need not remove qpid in mitaka, but replace it on proton | 15:38 |
| dims | degorenko : that's logical +1 | 15:39 |
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| degorenko | iberezovskiy, ^^^ | 15:39 |
| EmilienM | ok, do we have people deploying proton? | 15:39 |
| EmilienM | anyway, let's first move rabbimq code to puppet-oslo | 15:39 |
| dims | EmilienM have to ask flaper87 and kgiusti | 15:39 |
| EmilienM | and drop all old qpid stuff if needed | 15:40 |
| EmilienM | we'll see for proton during newton cycle | 15:40 |
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| iberezovskiy | ok | 15:40 |
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| dims | EmilienM : makes sense | 15:40 |
| degorenko | +1 for me | 15:40 |
| flaper87 | what did I do now? | 15:41 |
| flaper87 | :( | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | flaper87: we were wondering about new amqp driver in oslo.messaging | 15:41 |
| dims | flaper87 : are there folks deploying proton+pyngus+oslo.messaging | 15:41 |
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| flaper87 | dims: yes | 15:41 |
| flaper87 | note that proton != qpid | 15:42 |
| EmilienM | outside devstack? :-) | 15:42 |
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| flaper87 | EmilienM: >.> | 15:42 |
| flaper87 | :P | 15:42 |
| flaper87 | Is there a problem? | 15:42 |
| dims | lol | 15:42 |
| flaper87 | something I can help with? | 15:42 |
| degorenko | do we have packages? | 15:42 |
| EmilienM | it sounds something we need to investigate | 15:42 |
| flaper87 | degorenko: for proton? yes | 15:42 |
| flaper87 | There are packages for qpid-proton and pyngus | 15:43 |
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| flaper87 | I'm not sure about debian, though | 15:43 |
| flaper87 | I think there are no for debian | 15:43 |
| flaper87 | but I know there's work in progress | 15:43 |
| flaper87 | perhaps zigo can help us out there | 15:43 |
| degorenko | nice, then we need some investigation, yes, about using this | 15:43 |
| EmilienM | cool | 15:43 |
| flaper87 | and there's work on puppet manifests for it | 15:43 |
| EmilienM | flaper87: where? | 15:43 |
| flaper87 | I can point you to the folks working on that | 15:43 |
| degorenko | O_o | 15:43 |
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| flaper87 | It's in progress, fwiw | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | we haven't seen any Puppet work related on that | 15:44 |
| flaper87 | I don't have other details as of now | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | except if people commit on their own github | 15:44 |
| degorenko | may be they have some separate repo for this? | 15:44 |
| flaper87 | EmilienM: it's not ready/upstream yet but it's in progress AFAICT | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | :( | 15:44 |
| flaper87 | no no | 15:44 |
| flaper87 | wait, stop | 15:44 |
| flaper87 | don't freak out | 15:44 |
| degorenko | :D | 15:44 |
| flaper87 | jeeez | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | it would be great if people would commit upstream, even WIP | 15:44 |
| degorenko | agree ^ | 15:44 |
| flaper87 | There's people *working* on it as of like 2 or 3 weeks ago | 15:44 |
| EmilienM | at least for keeping open design & discssuon | 15:45 |
| EmilienM | release early, release often | 15:45 |
| flaper87 | EmilienM: these are folks not working on open stack full time. Bare with me while I help them go upstream | 15:45 |
| EmilienM | I put all my WIP in Gerrit so people can look at it | 15:45 |
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| flaper87 | openstack* | 15:45 |
| EmilienM | cool | 15:45 |
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| degorenko | probably we can ask them to upload wip review | 15:45 |
| EmilienM | tell them to commit on Gerrit so at least we know they're on it | 15:45 |
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| EmilienM | flaper87: take my hat. What would you do if you see parallel and private efforts to improve puppet modules? | 15:46 |
| EmilienM | anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing their work, ASAP | 15:46 |
| flaper87 | EmilienM: I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just providing you info based on what I know | 15:46 |
| EmilienM | do we have outstanding bugs or reviews for today? | 15:47 |
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| flaper87 | It's better to assume good faith. They are not working on this privately because they are afraid of reviews | 15:47 |
| EmilienM | flaper87: thank you for letting us know this information, and thank you for pushing them to contribute upstream | 15:47 |
| degorenko | they should not afraid us :) | 15:48 |
| dims | AFAICT we don't bite...right? :) | 15:48 |
| flaper87 | degorenko: they are not, trust me! | 15:48 |
| EmilienM | how can you be afraid of a puppy https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4112/5170590074_714d36db83_b.jpg | 15:48 |
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| dims | awww | 15:48 |
| degorenko | :D | 15:49 |
| EmilienM | ok, I'll let open discussion for 1 min and close the meeting, if nothing comes up | 15:49 |
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| EmilienM | I love puppies | 15:49 |
| EmilienM | if I had a house, I would buy dogs | 15:49 |
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| EmilienM | have a good week everyone | 15:50 |
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| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 15:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 15 15:50:16 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-03-15-15.01.html | 15:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-03-15-15.01.txt | 15:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2016/puppet_openstack.2016-03-15-15.01.log.html | 15:50 |
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| sridhar_ram | #startmeeting tacker | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 15 17:01:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sridhar_ram. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 17:01 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Roll Call | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 17:01 | |
| vishwanathj | o/ | 17:01 |
| tbh | o/ | 17:01 |
| bobh | o/ | 17:01 |
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| Michael_Bredel | o/ | 17:01 |
| sridhar_ram | Hi everyone ... ! | 17:01 |
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| dkushwaha | o/ | 17:01 |
| natarajk | o/ | 17:01 |
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| sridhar_ram | looks most of you survived DST switch over! | 17:02 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Agenda | 17:02 |
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| sridhar_ram | #info #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_Mar_15.2C_2016 | 17:02 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Annoucements | 17:03 |
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| sridhar_ram | #info python-tackerclient 0.2.0 Liberty version is released | 17:03 |
| sridhar_ram | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2016-March/001012.html | 17:03 |
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| sridhar_ram | we are now working with openstack-release team to make these releases... | 17:04 |
| sridhar_ram | more releases are in the pipeline.. | 17:04 |
| brucet | Oops here | 17:04 |
| brucet | Was here 1 hour ago too | 17:04 |
| sridhar_ram | there will be a follow-on 0.2.1 at the latest stable/liberty | 17:04 |
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| sridhar_ram | brucet: hi .. ! I gave a heads up 1 hr ago :_ | 17:05 |
| brucet | OK | 17:05 |
| sridhar_ram | next ... | 17:05 |
| sridhar_ram | PTL Nominations are underway | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | PTL election is going to start soon.. | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/089032.html | 17:06 |
| sridhar_ram | last... | 17:06 |
| brucet | Any recommendations on how to vote??? | 17:06 |
| brucet | Trump on the ballot? | 17:07 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: LOL... I don't qualify to his standards ;-) | 17:07 |
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| sridhar_ram | brucet: you will get an official looking email to call for your vote | 17:08 |
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| brucet | OK | 17:08 |
| sridhar_ram | all openstack foundation members can vote | 17:08 |
| sridhar_ram | moving on ... | 17:08 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Mitaka Status | 17:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Mitaka Status (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 17:09 | |
| sridhar_ram | lets go around to see where we stand w.r.t different things in flight... | 17:09 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: lets start w/ your tosca-parser .. | 17:09 |
| bobh | I think it's mostly finished except for some additional tests and sample templates | 17:10 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: can you please give an update ? any blockers ? anything pending ? | 17:10 |
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| bobh | sridhar_ram: I know Vish has looked at it and provided some good feedback - any other reviews would be helpful | 17:10 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: gongysh also reviewed I guess... | 17:11 |
| brucet | bobh: Got a stupid question. Could find the Tosca Parser in the Tacker source tree | 17:11 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: yours in the next in my queue.. will review later today | 17:11 |
| bobh | brucet: it's a library | 17:11 |
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| brucet | Is it the heat-translator?? | 17:12 |
| bobh | brucet: you can pip install it along with heat-translator | 17:12 |
| bobh | brucet: it used to be one project but was split in two | 17:12 |
| brucet | So do I look at the source for the Heat-Translator? | 17:12 |
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| bobh | brucet: if you like - I have several patchsets in there as well | 17:13 |
| bobh | brucet: but the integration work is mostly in tacker | 17:13 |
| brucet | Where do I find the integration code in RTacker? | 17:13 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: your work across all these three repos / projects to get this done is much appreciated !! | 17:14 |
| bobh | brucet: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278121/ | 17:14 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: my pleasure :-) | 17:14 |
| vishwanathj | +1 to sridhar_ram comments | 17:15 |
| brucet | bobh: Thx | 17:15 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: when are expecting to push the "final" patchset from your side ? | 17:15 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: hoping end of this week | 17:16 |
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| bobh | sridhar_ram: Final is always a relative term | 17:16 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: true.. I was hoping to get this (and multisite) to merge by this Friday | 17:16 |
| bobh | ok - can try for tomorrow | 17:16 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: it's never truly done but I'll push what I can | 17:17 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: that would help.. | 17:17 |
| sridhar_ram | we might have some room to "fixup" over next couple of weeks .. | 17:17 |
| sridhar_ram | the reason for pushing hard is .. stable/mitaka will be pulled soon | 17:18 |
| sridhar_ram | it is going to be a pain to justify big feature level patchset into stable branches... | 17:18 |
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| bobh | sridhar_ram: there is enough there now I think to get the base in, and we can patch as needed - but I agree it would be good to get as much in as possible | 17:18 |
| sridhar_ram | whereas smaller tidy-ups can be always cherrypicked | 17:18 |
| s3wong | sorry, late | 17:19 |
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| sridhar_ram | bobh: thanks.. ! will support you as much as possible from the review side.. | 17:19 |
| zigo | flaper87: o/ | 17:19 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: thx | 17:19 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: hi ! | 17:19 |
| sridhar_ram | moving on ... | 17:19 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: can you update on your patchsets ? any blockers ? | 17:20 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: glad to see most of the patchsets are posted now ? | 17:20 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, I have pushed patchsets for all resources, and for the main unit tests | 17:21 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, functional test cases are the pending one | 17:21 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: please plan separate patchsets for functional tests.. we would have room over next week to land them | 17:22 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: again, it will be good to wrap your patchsets by this week | 17:22 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, yes , maintaining seperate patchsets for everything | 17:22 |
| sridhar_ram | I mean main patchsets | 17:23 |
| sridhar_ram | *meant | 17:23 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: your's have a dependency on bobh's patchset ? | 17:23 |
| tbh | not exactly sridhar_ram , but for unit tests, once we have basic test cases for tosca/utils.py | 17:24 |
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| sridhar_ram | tbh: okay.. | 17:24 |
| sridhar_ram | next.. | 17:24 |
| tbh | I will add test cases for the methods I have added in utils.py file | 17:24 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: sounds good.. | 17:24 |
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| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: can you update on EPA ? | 17:25 |
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| vishwanathj | I now have a patchset uploaded based on bobh and tbh patchset.... | 17:26 |
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| vishwanathj | the pending task is creating unit tests | 17:26 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: when can you wrap up unit tests ? | 17:26 |
| vishwanathj | hoping to do by the end of this week | 17:26 |
| vishwanathj | or sooner | 17:26 |
| vishwanathj | mostly sooner | 17:27 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: thanks... it seems you are last in the dependency chain on this tosca-parser related features | 17:27 |
| vishwanathj | yes I am dependent on tbh patchset who in turn is dependent on bobh patchset | 17:28 |
| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: a major aspect of EPA involved documentation .. you should plan for that after your patchsets wrap up | 17:28 |
| sridhar_ram | *involves | 17:28 |
| vishwanathj | ok | 17:28 |
| sridhar_ram | moving on.. | 17:28 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: multisite ... looking close ? | 17:29 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: addressing the comments on server patchset, will have a new patchset with test/devstack changes end of day | 17:29 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: I believe your patchsets have unit tests. How about functional tests ? | 17:30 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: i will also push a separate patchset for stevedore changes and heat kilo support changes, right now it is integrated with server code | 17:30 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: targeting by end of this week | 17:30 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: +1 to split out into separate patchset.. including the func test ones | 17:31 |
| sridhar_ram | so that the main patchsets can still sail through | 17:31 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: sure, did you want me to extract the extension code as well to a separate patchset? | 17:31 |
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| sridhar_ram | sripriya: hmm.. nfvo extension part ? | 17:31 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: yes | 17:32 |
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| sridhar_ram | I thought that is an integral part of your patchset and I'd recommend keeping it in place | 17:32 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: ok | 17:32 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: anything else ? | 17:32 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: hopefully i can get it merged this week assuming there are no major comments on the feature | 17:33 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: sounds good... | 17:33 |
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| sridhar_ram | general req - keep responding to review comments / with follow up patchset as quick as possible and | 17:34 |
| sridhar_ram | .. a HUGE thanks to all the reviewers ! | 17:35 |
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| sridhar_ram | especially gongysh ... for a fine toothcomb reviews ! | 17:35 |
| * sridhar_ram not sure gongysh in the channel at this hr | 17:35 | |
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| sridhar_ram | lets land as many patchsets as possible by this Friday and use next two weeks to "mop up" ! | 17:36 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Mitaka Bugs & RFE | 17:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Mitaka Bugs & RFE (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 17:37 | |
| sridhar_ram | I cleaned up launchpad bugs and RFE ... | 17:37 |
| sridhar_ram | .. remove mitaka tag for those that look won't obviously make it to Mitaka.. | 17:38 |
| sridhar_ram | Bugs are in .. | 17:38 |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bugs/?field.tag=mitaka-bugs | 17:38 |
| sridhar_ram | RFEs are in | 17:38 |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bugs/?field.tag=mitaka-rfe | 17:38 |
| sridhar_ram | please take a moment to look at the list.. particularly the ones under your name | 17:39 |
| sridhar_ram | you've two week's to land them to make it to Mitaka | 17:39 |
| sridhar_ram | *weeks | 17:39 |
| sridhar_ram | any particular bugs to discuss now ? | 17:40 |
| sridhar_ram | ... or RFEs for that matter | 17:40 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1522961 are we fixing this for Mitaka? | 17:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1522961 in tacker "Display VNF monitoring status and health failure reason" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to bharaththiruveedula (bharath-ves) | 17:41 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: i believe we discussed last week that it would be bit involved to implement this | 17:41 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: and may be difficult to wrap it for Mitaka | 17:42 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: tbh: yep.. looks tight to me | 17:42 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: what do you think ? | 17:42 |
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| sridhar_ram | I'd suggest to move it to Newton | 17:43 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, yes and this one too https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1524214 | 17:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1524214 in tacker "Capture and show VNF error reason in CLI and Horizon" [High,In progress] - Assigned to bharaththiruveedula (bharath-ves) | 17:43 |
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| sridhar_ram | tbh: this one seems a bit useful... | 17:44 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: lets keep it and see if we can make progress over next two weeks ? | 17:45 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, first patch in the last cycle I guess, but due to the BPs, we didn't get the time, | 17:45 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256314/ | 17:45 |
| sridhar_ram | lets keep if for now and reassess it next week once things clear a bit on the mitaka BPs | 17:46 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: tbh: thanks for flagging them... | 17:46 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, sure | 17:46 |
| sridhar_ram | Please add 'mitaka-bugs' tag if you see any issue that need to be fixed in mitaka | 17:47 |
| sridhar_ram | moving on | 17:47 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Newton Series: Network Services Descriptor support | 17:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Newton Series: Network Services Descriptor support (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 17:47 | |
| sridhar_ram | each week we are rotating to discuss upcoming Newton features.. | 17:47 |
| sridhar_ram | we discussed VNF Scaling, NFV Catalog (by Sonata team) earlier | 17:48 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: is interested in contributing toward's Tacker NSD support.. | 17:49 |
| sridhar_ram | he has prepared this to set the context ... | 17:49 |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1prnTLewkX3Dd2OYDSrEHgbq9RUSOj8ql8w3Sb3wcms8/edit | 17:49 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: do you want to bring up anything ? | 17:50 |
| sridhar_ram | team - any thoughts on this area ? | 17:50 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, currently no. Just created this basic level understanding. | 17:51 |
| dkushwaha | and looking for team support | 17:51 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: noob question is this different to SFC? | 17:51 |
| vishwanathj | dkushwaha what kind of team support are you looking for? I dont mind teaming up with you for investigation, POC, creating blue print and such | 17:52 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: yes.. this is to instantiate a "collection of VNFs" .. it might or may not involve a service-chaining | 17:52 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: ah ok.. thanks | 17:52 |
| s3wong | I do like the fact that after bobh and I accidentally used the same presentation style from Google presentation back in mid-cycle, the whole Tacker team is now converging on the same style on presentations :-) | 17:53 |
| Michael_Bredel | dkushwaha: I was working on a similar thing for Sonata - If you want I can help here as well (same company anyway :-)) | 17:53 |
| sridhar_ram | as indicated in slide #5 .. it has touch points into tosca parser .. bobh ^^ | 17:53 |
| bobh | s3wong: what do you mean accidentally? :-) | 17:53 |
| sripriya | s3wong: bobh: lol | 17:53 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: :) | 17:53 |
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| s3wong | bobh: coincidentally :-) | 17:54 |
| bobh | s3wong: :-) | 17:54 |
| bobh | s3wong: great minds.... | 17:54 |
| sridhar_ram | Michael_Bredel: that would be cool.. if you can team up in this area. If has some overlaps with the NFV catalog work items presented by your team | 17:54 |
| s3wong | bobh: :-) | 17:54 |
| sridhar_ram | s/If has/It has/ | 17:55 |
| dkushwaha | vishwanathj, Michael_Bredel yes sure, I needs support regarding investigation. | 17:55 |
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| sridhar_ram | from my side.. I've few high level questions to ask (to all of us collectively).. is NSD going to be refer to VNFD using TOSCA "imports" as indicated in Slide #5 | 17:56 |
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| sridhar_ram | or would NSD refer to VNFD name and invoke Tacker VNF APIs to instantiate them.. | 17:56 |
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| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: it would help to convert your slides into a Google word document and.. | 17:57 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: .. capture some architectural options first | 17:57 |
| sridhar_ram | and let your co-conspirators - Michael_Bredel, vishwanathj jointly review / edit that for the next revision.. | 17:58 |
| brucet | dkushwaha: Doesn't Tosca NFV have a plan for including NSD in Tosca NFV templates?? | 17:58 |
| sridhar_ram | we can do one more round of discussion on that version | 17:58 |
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| bobh | brucet: yes - the VNFFG is part of that | 17:59 |
| sridhar_ram | brucet: yes, tosca nfv does support NSD | 17:59 |
| sridhar_ram | times up folks... | 17:59 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: thanks for putting this together.. we have something to iterate! | 18:00 |
| dkushwaha | brucet, yes, I think It is on the top of nfv | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Open Discussion | 18:00 |
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| sridhar_ram | that's a wrap for this week.. | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | thanks everyone | 18:00 |
| sridhar_ram | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 15 18:00:43 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-03-15-17.01.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-03-15-17.01.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-03-15-17.01.log.html | 18:00 |
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