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| yuli_s | hello | 09:03 |
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| oanson | Anyone here for the meetings? | 09:03 |
| oanson | Dragonflow meeting? | 09:03 |
| scsnow | hi | 09:03 |
| gampel | hi | 09:03 |
| Shlomo_N | hi | 09:03 |
| raofei | hi | 09:03 |
| nick-ma | hi | 09:03 |
| oanson | Great. | 09:03 |
| oanson | #startmeeting | 09:03 |
| openstack | oanson: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 09:03 |
| gsagie | ٩(- ̮̮̃-̃)۶ | 09:03 |
| oanson | #info scsnow gampel Shlomo_N raofei nick-ma oanson yuli_s in meeting | 09:03 |
| gampel | oanson: you need to add Dragonflow | 09:03 |
| gsagie | oanson you didnt start the meeting right | 09:04 |
| oanson | #startmeeting Dragonflow | 09:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 11 09:04:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 09:04 |
| oanson | gampel, thankgs | 09:04 |
| oanson | #info scsnow gampel Shlomo_N raofei nick-ma oanson yuli_s gsagie in meeting | 09:04 |
| oanson | #topic Security Groups | 09:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Security Groups (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:04 | |
| oanson | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280538/ | 09:04 |
| gampel | From the testing so far it does not break the code | 09:05 |
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| oanson | We are in feature freeze, but due to the importance of this feature and seeing how close it is to completion, we want to try and merge it. | 09:05 |
| gampel | but does not work properly | 09:05 |
| oanson | yuli_s, dingboopt you were testing this feature. Any comments? | 09:05 |
| yuli_s | I found a bug with double security group fields, so basically SG does not works for me | 09:06 |
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| gampel | oanson: I think we can merge it if it does not break the flow when set to work without SG | 09:07 |
| oanson | gampel, We can do that | 09:07 |
| oanson | yuli_s, do you think it can be made to work by Monday? | 09:07 |
| oanson | (i.e. next Monday, the 18th?) | 09:07 |
| gampel | I see that there is a new patch from today what does it include ? | 09:07 |
| yuli_s | probably yes | 09:07 |
| gsagie | why do we need to merge it if it doesnt work? | 09:08 |
| yuli_s | I have no tested the last patch | 09:08 |
| nick-ma | yes, suggest to disable it by default in devstack. | 09:08 |
| gsagie | this doesnt make sense | 09:08 |
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| oanson | gsagie, if it can be made to work by the code freeze, merging it should expedite matters | 09:08 |
| gsagie | if its not enabled then its not in the feature freeze | 09:08 |
| gsagie | thats something needs to be decided now | 09:08 |
| oanson | gsagie, not enabled by default | 09:08 |
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| oanson | still available for anyone who wants to use it | 09:09 |
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| gsagie | who will want to use it if its not working? | 09:09 |
| nick-ma | it depends. if someone is willing to use it, but it doesn't work, it hurts. | 09:09 |
| dingboopt | oanson: I will take a look at the bugs after work. | 09:09 |
| gampel | we will make it work this week | 09:09 |
| gsagie | so lets merge it when it works | 09:09 |
| oanson | The plan is to get it to work by the code freeze | 09:10 |
| yuli_s | gsagie, I suppose it will be fixed ASAP | 09:10 |
| oanson | Then it will be available, working, but not enabled by default. | 09:10 |
| oanson | We could enable it by default if we are sure of its stability | 09:10 |
| yuli_s | gsagie, agree | 09:10 |
| gsagie | so if thats the plan lets get it to work, why we need to merge code that is not working? | 09:10 |
| gampel | is yuanwei here ? | 09:10 |
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| gsagie | if security groups is in the version then it needs to work, and we are past the deadline | 09:11 |
| nick-ma | agree. | 09:11 |
| oanson | Yes | 09:11 |
| gsagie | so we need to agree if its important feature enough or not | 09:11 |
| gsagie | if it is, we extend the deadline | 09:11 |
| oanson | I understood that we agreed that it was. | 09:11 |
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| gsagie | dingboopt: can you make security group work in the following 2 days? | 09:11 |
| nick-ma | i think it's important. | 09:11 |
| gampel | yes it is and we need to extend the deadline only for SG | 09:11 |
| gsagie | Duan Kebo: can yuanwei can do it? | 09:11 |
| Frank_Duan | If everyone finds a bug of SG, would you please forward it to me? | 09:12 |
| gsagie | we need fast iterations on it | 09:12 |
| Frank_Duan | I will make sure there is someone working on it? | 09:12 |
| gampel | not for other features that did not made the feature freeze | 09:12 |
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| gampel | yuli can you please share the bug here ? | 09:12 |
| gsagie | Frank_Duan: ok thanks, yuli_s and oanson will report bugs to you | 09:12 |
| oanson | In addition to launchpad. It is helpful that the list is maintained | 09:13 |
| oanson | SG bugs can be marked critical so that we won't miss them. | 09:13 |
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| raofei | It's better to decide who should responsibility for this feature. It's better for yuanwei or dingbo to complete it fully. | 09:13 |
| yuli_s | gampel, In lport table we have 2 fields to save: sgids and security_groups. In my test they have different value. | 09:13 |
| gsagie | yuli_s: please share the bug you found, also i noticed that IPv6 is not supported need to add a bug for it as well | 09:13 |
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| nick-ma | yes. ipv6 is not working. | 09:14 |
| gsagie | the problem yuli_s showed me is that we have 2 fields for security groups | 09:14 |
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| gsagie | need to remove one | 09:14 |
| Frank_Duan | I have talked it with dingboot | 09:14 |
| Frank_Duan | He is busy recently, so I and yuawei will fix bugs of sg | 09:15 |
| gsagie | Frank_Duan: ok great, please let me know if you need help | 09:15 |
| oanson | I am also available to help | 09:15 |
| gampel | Ok thx we need to make it to work by the end of the week | 09:15 |
| yuli_s | ok, great | 09:15 |
| Frank_Duan | thank you omer! | 09:15 |
| oanson | #action Frank_Duan yuanwei To finish SG app by end of week. oanson gsagie yuli_s to help where needed | 09:15 |
| oanson | Anything else on this topic? | 09:16 |
| hshan | the reliability feature | 09:16 |
| oanson | #topic Reliability | 09:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reliability (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:16 | |
| oanson | hshan: The stage is yours. | 09:16 |
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| hshan | thx | 09:16 |
| gampel | I think that we should delay it after the Mitcka tag | 09:16 |
| gsagie | what is missing for that feature? | 09:17 |
| gsagie | hshan: ? | 09:17 |
| hshan | we need to move the 'switch_features_handler' from openflow handler to ovsdb_monitor, reliability feature rely on that | 09:17 |
| hshan | this is the last dependence of reliability feature | 09:18 |
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| oanson | hshan: There is also the use of mod_flow and OFPFlowMod | 09:18 |
| hshan | oanson: yes | 09:19 |
| gsagie | ok, so this is a quick fix | 09:19 |
| gampel | you need to change all the app to use mod_flow | 09:19 |
| gsagie | moving the switch features handler | 09:19 |
| gampel | this is a big change | 09:19 |
| hshan | gsagie: I'll add a new patch to do that | 09:19 |
| oanson | gsagie: we should consider if we keep this event | 09:19 |
| gampel | I think that we should delay the reliability feature to after Mitka | 09:19 |
| oanson | the sync_started and sync_finished should cover all cases. | 09:19 |
| oanson | But this is definitely a change for after Mitaka, yes | 09:20 |
| hshan | maybe we should merge it first, but don't enable it | 09:20 |
| hshan | what do you think? | 09:20 |
| gampel | hshan: I know that you worked very hard on this one But I feel that we need to merge it next week to master | 09:20 |
| gsagie | hshan: so change mod_flow and change switch_features_handler, what about L3 app? | 09:20 |
| oanson | hshan: I am afraid it may make the code unstable | 09:20 |
| gampel | I think that it is problematic because it changes some infrastructure code | 09:21 |
| gampel | like mod_flow | 09:21 |
| oanson | Even disabled, it has some changes within the code that have some effect | 09:21 |
| oanson | like what gampel said :) | 09:21 |
| gsagie | gampel: but this we can disable | 09:21 |
| gsagie | very easily | 09:21 |
| gampel | I feel that this feature is not high priority like SG and it is too risky | 09:22 |
| hshan | currently, the reliability feature's changing list is too long, i plan to divide it into several patches | 09:22 |
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| oanson | Actually, looking at the patch again, it looks like most changes are in new files | 09:22 |
| oanson | (I remembered an older version (: ) | 09:23 |
| hshan | huh | 09:23 |
| gampel | But if you all think it is not we can consider adding it with disable flag | 09:23 |
| gsagie | hshan: ok, lets decide that its going to be in our next version, it doesnt mean its not going to be merged | 09:23 |
| hshan | yes, this reliability feature itself is simple | 09:23 |
| nick-ma | mark it as experimental in the option. if it can be disabled and not affect the pipeline, i suggest we do it and continue to test by enabling it in devstack. | 09:23 |
| gsagie | its just going to be merged in next version to master | 09:23 |
| oanson | The only problem if its disabled in the code in df_base_app. It has to be conditional anyway. So if we add that, it can also be merged. | 09:23 |
| gsagie | nick-ma: i agree, i personally dont see why its not going to be easy to disable this feature | 09:23 |
| nick-ma | need to make sure it is working by code freeze. | 09:24 |
| gampel | Ok so hshan add a patch that we can disable every thing and we coudl merge it this week | 09:24 |
| gsagie | hshan: the question is, why its important to get ir merged? | 09:24 |
| gsagie | it | 09:24 |
| gsagie | and is it working | 09:24 |
| gampel | I agree with the question ? | 09:24 |
| hshan | of course | 09:24 |
| nick-ma | if it is not wokring by end of this week, let it go to next release. even if it is experimental, we need to make sure it is working then. | 09:25 |
| gsagie | hshan: did you change L3 application? | 09:25 |
| gsagie | nick-ma: agree | 09:25 |
| hshan | I change mod_flow | 09:25 |
| hshan | all other apps use mod_flow | 09:25 |
| gsagie | hshan: ahh i see | 09:26 |
| oanson | hshan: This is in the latest patchset? | 09:26 |
| hshan | ok | 09:26 |
| gsagie | hshan: so any app that uses the cookie will work | 09:26 |
| Frank_Duan | The change is mainly in controller relibility itself. Modoify to other files is mior. | 09:26 |
| gsagie | yes i can see that, i will test this patch today | 09:26 |
| hshan | oanson: I think it is, all other job will be did in new patch | 09:27 |
| gsagie | and report by tomorrow and lets decide then | 09:27 |
| gampel | ok so we agree to add it if it works and that it could be disabled and marked as experimental | 09:27 |
| nick-ma | ok | 09:27 |
| Frank_Duan | So I agree we mark it as experimental feature. | 09:27 |
| hshan | gsagie: you must wait for the new patches a little, I think I can finished it today | 09:27 |
| gsagie | hshan: please do and email me when its done | 09:27 |
| gsagie | and tell me which patch to use for testing | 09:28 |
| hshan | gsagie: ok | 09:28 |
| oanson | #action hshan finish reliability and add option to disable reliability from configuration | 09:28 |
| hshan | sure, I'll will | 09:28 |
| Frank_Duan | It's also a important featuer if someone want to use df in any producion | 09:28 |
| gsagie | i will also look how we can safely disable it if it turns out not to work | 09:28 |
| oanson | #action gsagie test reliability feature | 09:28 |
| gsagie | Frank_Duan: we all agree its important, the question is it stable enough right now or needs to be merged in a week | 09:28 |
| gsagie | its really not that big delay either way | 09:28 |
| gampel | i agree | 09:29 |
| gsagie | but we want a "semi" stable version for more testing | 09:29 |
| gsagie | and not to deal with logic bugs | 09:29 |
| oanson | Though I guess that if anyone uses it in production, they'll want a tagged version | 09:29 |
| gsagie | before the summit, thats all | 09:29 |
| oanson | rather than the ongoing master. | 09:29 |
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| gsagie | oanson: yes but we can always add tags | 09:29 |
| gampel | We can mark it as RC_1 | 09:29 |
| oanson | gsagie: Not if we're in the middle of feature development and adding new bugs :) | 09:30 |
| oanson | All right, I think we reached an agreement. | 09:30 |
| gampel | and cherry pick it when it is done to RC_2 | 09:30 |
| Frank_Duan | This feature needs some time to mature. | 09:30 |
| oanson | All features need to be heavily tested in the coming week | 09:31 |
| Frank_Duan | I do think it will be perfect in a few weeks. | 09:31 |
| nick-ma | oanson: agree. | 09:31 |
| oanson | We need to find and iron out as many bugs before the summit | 09:31 |
| oanson | Any more issues on this topic? | 09:31 |
| oanson | #topic Bugs | 09:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:32 | |
| gsagie | Frank_Duan: the big question it also depends on your schedule | 09:32 |
| Frank_Duan | Yes | 09:32 |
| oanson | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow | 09:32 |
| oanson | yuli_s, anything to report? | 09:33 |
| Frank_Duan | We will focus on fixed bugs of these features. | 09:33 |
| yuli_s | oanson, most of the bugs are taking care of | 09:33 |
| yuli_s | when doing debugging, I am getting strange exceptions, I just send you one | 09:33 |
| gampel | oanson: there is the unreported one about the publisher update frequency | 09:34 |
| oanson | gampel, I am on that one. | 09:34 |
| oanson | yuli_s, please report these exceptions | 09:34 |
| oanson | They may hide a larger problem beneath | 09:35 |
| gampel | Frank_Duan: are you testing the selective proactive on multi node setup | 09:35 |
| yuli_s | I hope we will close all open issues | 09:35 |
| yuli_s | oanson, yup | 09:35 |
| oanson | And it allows others to investigate and fix them | 09:35 |
| Frank_Duan | Not yet. | 09:35 |
| Frank_Duan | But hujie has | 09:35 |
| gampel | Frank_Duan: I think it is very important to test both redis and zmq | 09:35 |
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| oanson | I see there are also 2 unassigned sg bugs. | 09:36 |
| yuli_s | for example this one happens during debugging | 09:36 |
| yuli_s | https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1568506 | 09:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1568506 in DragonFlow "sg test bug 2" [High,New] | 09:36 |
| hujie | I have test all feature for basic function in the middle of March based on redis in multi mode environment | 09:36 |
| oanson | gampel, testing is next topic | 09:36 |
| oanson | Lets focus on bugs, and then we can get to it :) | 09:36 |
| gampel | Opps | 09:36 |
| Frank_Duan | Gampel, we only tested redis | 09:36 |
| Frank_Duan | and will test zmq later | 09:36 |
| gsagie | okie lets go to testing | 09:36 |
| gampel | who is taking the SG bug | 09:37 |
| gsagie | go to testing | 09:37 |
| Frank_Duan | You are assign the SG bug to Yuanwei | 09:37 |
| Frank_Duan | You can | 09:37 |
| oanson | #action yuanwei to review SG bugs | 09:37 |
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| oanson | yuli_s, please assign the bugs | 09:38 |
| yuli_s | ok | 09:38 |
| oanson | Any other bug-related topics? | 09:38 |
| yuli_s | nop | 09:38 |
| oanson | #topic Testing | 09:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Testing (Meeting topic: Dragonflow)" | 09:38 | |
| oanson | We have to make sure all features are tested | 09:38 |
| oanson | including multinode, using redis and ZMQ | 09:38 |
| oanson | and east-west traffic on L2 and L3 networks | 09:39 |
| gampel | and Distributed DNAT | 09:39 |
| oanson | Yes, including dnat | 09:39 |
| oanson | And SG | 09:39 |
| oanson | And if we can, also reliability | 09:39 |
| oanson | It is important that any bugs found are uploaded to launchpad, possibly with a mail to yuli_s who is our bug-master | 09:40 |
| Shlomo_N | sure | 09:40 |
| raofei | sure | 09:41 |
| gampel | Shlomo_N: Can you share the status of your performance testing so far | 09:41 |
| Shlomo_N | yes, sure | 09:41 |
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| Shlomo_N | Last week I have tested for 4 scenarios: E-W (L2 and L3), N-S and SNAT | 09:42 |
| Shlomo_N | After twicking the linux kernel, I have managed to get near 90% line utilization | 09:43 |
| Shlomo_N | Here are the results: | 09:43 |
| Shlomo_N | L2VMVM7.39Gb/s | 09:43 |
| Shlomo_N | oops | 09:43 |
| Shlomo_N | L2: 7.39Gb/s | 09:44 |
| Shlomo_N | L3: 7.24Gb/s | 09:44 |
| Shlomo_N | North-South: 6.98Gb/s | 09:44 |
| gampel | it it cross node | 09:44 |
| gampel | ? | 09:44 |
| Shlomo_N | SNAT: 8.38Gb/s | 09:44 |
| Shlomo_N | Yes, all tests are cross node only | 09:44 |
| oanson | On a single 10G line? | 09:44 |
| nick-ma | geneve or vxlan? | 09:44 |
| Shlomo_N | Yep, the lab I'm using it based on 10Gb/s and vxlan | 09:45 |
| gampel | did you get the line rate with multi VM traffic | 09:45 |
| gampel | ? | 09:45 |
| Frank_Duan | Shlomo, do you have the performance data of neutron + ovs agent? | 09:45 |
| Shlomo_N | I got near line rate with multi vm traffic | 09:46 |
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| nick-ma | why does snat get more bandwidth/sec? i don't understand. | 09:46 |
| Shlomo_N | Frank_Duan: I have, but it's based on 1Gb/s lab | 09:46 |
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| gampel | Frank_Duan: I think next will be to test with SG and then DVR | 09:47 |
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| oanson | Shlomo_N: Do you also have CPU usage statistics for these tests? Is the bottleneck now the line width? | 09:47 |
| Shlomo_N | nick-ma: probably because we have only single VMSwitch in the way | 09:47 |
| gampel | Shlomo_N: i agree with nick-ma: why is the SNAT and DNAT not the same it is alll centralized right ? | 09:47 |
| Shlomo_N | oanson: the bottleneck is not the line bandwidth | 09:48 |
| Frank_Duan | Yes, gampel. we also need to compare them with performance data of neutron + ovs agent | 09:48 |
| Shlomo_N | gampel: yes. DNAT wasn't tested | 09:48 |
| gampel | you said North-South: 6.98Gb/s and SNAT: 8.38Gb/s | 09:49 |
| Shlomo_N | yes | 09:49 |
| gampel | Frank_Duan: yes next we will do reference implementation with DVR | 09:49 |
| Shlomo_N | probably because we have only single VMSwitch in the SNAT scenario | 09:50 |
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| Frank_Duan | We can do this in Beijing | 09:50 |
| gampel | That will be great help | 09:50 |
| gampel | shlomo is working on automating the testing you could use his work | 09:50 |
| gampel | Shlomo_N: will you be able to upload it to the DF repository | 09:51 |
| Shlomo_N | Frank_Duan: how many servers you have there? | 09:51 |
| Shlomo_N | Sure, I will | 09:51 |
| Frank_Duan | we have 3 severs with 10GE if | 09:51 |
| Frank_Duan | other servers only have 1ge ports. | 09:52 |
| Shlomo_N | So we have bigger lab here | 09:52 |
| Shlomo_N | :-) | 09:52 |
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| Shlomo_N | Anyone have 40Gb/s lab anywhere? | 09:53 |
| oanson | #action Shlomo_N upload performance tests to repository | 09:53 |
| Shlomo_N | 10x oanson | 09:54 |
| gampel | Shlomo_N: maybe they can do the DVR OVS test and you could focus on the SG automation | 09:54 |
| oanson | Shlomo_N, no problem :) | 09:54 |
| Shlomo_N | gampel: ok | 09:54 |
| oanson | All right. Anything else on testing? | 09:55 |
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| oanson | #topic open discussion | 09:55 |
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| nick-ma | i suggest we vote on py34 gate. | 09:56 |
| scsnow__ | gampel: did you have a chance to look for bug I could work on? | 09:56 |
| oanson | nick-ma: second | 09:56 |
| nick-ma | it was working and broken and fixed and working then. | 09:57 |
| gampel | please look at the DF Austin topics and add suggestions https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/dragonflow-design-summit | 09:57 |
| gampel | +1 | 09:57 |
| nick-ma | i fixed it two times. | 09:57 |
| gampel | you mean to make it voting | 09:57 |
| nick-ma | yes. | 09:57 |
| gampel | scsnow__: please contact yuli he is the bug master but I you dod some testing you will find bugs we are in integration time | 09:58 |
| oanson | I think it's important. We should be able to automatically move over to py34 | 09:58 |
| gampel | is it working now | 09:58 |
| nick-ma | of course it is. | 09:58 |
| oanson | It appears stable. I looked back a few reviews. | 09:58 |
| oanson | Thanks to nick-ma :) | 09:58 |
| gampel | scsnow__: will you be in Austin | 09:58 |
| gampel | thx yes +1 on make it voting | 09:59 |
| scsnow__ | gampel: no :( | 09:59 |
| oanson | So it's agreed? | 09:59 |
| nick-ma | :-) | 09:59 |
| oanson | gampel, nick-ma: Who gets to do it? | 10:00 |
| gampel | yuli: can you help scsnow__ find an easy bug to work on | 10:00 |
| gampel | I will do it no problem | 10:00 |
| oanson | #action gampel make gate test py34 voting | 10:00 |
| yuli_s | gampel, sure | 10:00 |
| nick-ma | scsnow yuli_s: there are lots of simple tasks in wishlist. | 10:00 |
| oanson | The fullstack tests also seem to be getting there, but not ready yet. | 10:00 |
| oanson | The following error repeats: Exception: VM is not deleted | 10:01 |
| oanson | I will open a bug, and if I have time I will look into it. | 10:01 |
| gampel | Yes i think making the fullsatck stable is very important ! | 10:01 |
| yuli_s | nick-ma, yup, you are right | 10:01 |
| oanson | #action oanson make fullstack more stable | 10:02 |
| gampel | time is up thank you everyone | 10:02 |
| nick-ma | thanks all. | 10:02 |
| scsnow__ | bb | 10:02 |
| oanson | Thank you. | 10:02 |
| oanson | #endmeeting | 10:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 10:02 | |
| Frank_Duan | thank you, bye! | 10:02 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 11 10:02:42 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-04-11-09.04.html | 10:02 |
| raofei | bye | 10:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-04-11-09.04.txt | 10:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-04-11-09.04.log.html | 10:02 |
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| mspreitz | We're having a Kuryr meeting now, right? | 15:02 |
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| mspreitz | Is anybody else here for the Kuryr meeting? | 15:04 |
| banix | o/ | 15:04 |
| banix | gsagie r u around? | 15:05 |
| salv-orlando | I am | 15:05 |
| banix | dont see gsagie, ap*, taku, or irenab | 15:07 |
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| salv-orlando | well, I'm around if they pop up later we can start. Otherwise if someone has an item for the agenda we can start anyway | 15:07 |
| mspreitz | salv-orlando, I presume you saw I answered your question about network policy semantics | 15:08 |
| banix | #startmeeting kuryr | 15:09 |
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| banix | mspreitz: salv-orlando i started the meeting for the sake of having a log for the conversation as a meeting | 15:09 |
| banix | do you have anything yopu want to discuss. mspreitz you updated your patch. anything to discuss? | 15:10 |
| mspreitz | FYI: I attempted a precise write-up of the two network policy proposals, see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cTA_c1qahzZ9nDI-h6Vp9-9_kCB-kk1cw91K0qRjI84 | 15:10 |
| mspreitz | I also posted some brief remarks on the Raven devref | 15:10 |
| mspreitz | Am willing to expand, but the author is not here now. | 15:10 |
| banix | salv-orlando: have you had a chance to look at the Raven devref: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301426/ | 15:11 |
| mspreitz | I updated the T1 devref, and am looking for feedback on that and the precise semantics writeup | 15:11 |
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| salv-orlando | banix: not yet. planning to do it this week | 15:11 |
| mspreitz | I also updated the T0 PR | 15:11 |
| banix | mspreitz: is this the link? #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290172/ | 15:12 |
| mspreitz | Yes, that is the devref for T1 and T2 | 15:13 |
| mspreitz | The T2 part probably still needs a little work to track my realization from last week. | 15:13 |
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| mspreitz | well, maybe more than a little. Am still not happy about the multi-tenancy stuff. | 15:13 |
| banix | ok, I think the main review items are the Raven and the T1 & T2 devrefs linked above | 15:14 |
| banix | The magnum integration spec got merged: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269039/ | 15:15 |
| mspreitz | I would also like review of my attempt at a precise writeup of network policy. Questions keep arising of what net pol is, and I tried to put forth a clear answer. | 15:15 |
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| banix | mspreitz: where did this conversation take place? | 15:16 |
| mspreitz | The network policy stuff is mainly discussed in the kubernetes network SIG and related Google docs | 15:16 |
| banix | mspreitz: if you have a link it will be good to share here | 15:17 |
| mspreitz | The network SIG's mailing list is here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/kubernetes-sig-network | 15:17 |
| banix | mspreitz: thanks | 15:17 |
| mspreitz | A broader set of pointers is at https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/wiki/Special-Interest-Groups-%28SIGs%29 | 15:17 |
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| mspreitz | You probably need to join something to see those | 15:18 |
| banix | the other item we had was adding support for existing Neutron networks and that is merged. | 15:18 |
| banix | The last item worth bringing up is the design sessions at Austin | 15:18 |
| mspreitz | There is also the issue of support for Liberty Neutron | 15:18 |
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| banix | as mspreitz mentioned the support for existing Neutron networks uses Neutron tags and as such requires Mitaka. Working on making this available for Liberty through the old hack of using Neutron network name | 15:20 |
| mspreitz | I am not able to attend the meeting in Austin | 15:20 |
| banix | See the sessions being formed here: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kuryr-design-summit | 15:20 |
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| banix | mspreitz: please add comments or suggests items for discussion if not already covered | 15:20 |
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| mspreitz | I will have a look and see what I can do. | 15:21 |
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| mspreitz | I assume remote participation will be impossible, I will have to do what I can asynchronously | 15:21 |
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| banix | I don’t have anything else to add other than that if this is not a good time for our meetings we should look for a time slot where we can have most of the community attend | 15:22 |
| mspreitz | It works fine for me, but we need to hear from those not here now. | 15:22 |
| banix | mspreitz: it is possible but I would say it will be difficult. salv-orlando did that in one of the summits if i recall correctly | 15:23 |
| banix | will follow up with the time slot for the meeting | 15:23 |
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| banix | Anything else from the esteemed gentlemen on the meeting? salv-orlando, mspreitz? | 15:24 |
| mspreitz | nothing more from me. | 15:24 |
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| banix | #endmeeting | 15:26 |
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| salv-orlando | thanks banix | 15:28 |
| salv-orlando | I will look at raven spec as soon as possible. have a good one everybody | 15:28 |
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| Sukhdev | Folks time for Ironic-neutron integration meeting | 16:00 |
| devananda | o/ | 16:00 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting ironic_neutron | 16:00 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_April_11.2C_2016 | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | Folks Mitaka is out and Newton is open for business | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | We have one more meeting before we all head out to summit | 16:02 |
| jroll | morning | 16:02 |
| sambetts | o/ | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | jroll : GM | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | we discussed about 4 patches last week | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | I reviewed them over the weekend - they look good | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | any chance we can get them some core love and get them merged within April? | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | devananda : you have been busy testing them as well - any thoughts? | 16:04 |
| devananda | Sukhdev: I've found a few issues with the network driver patch, and posted comments last week | 16:04 |
| devananda | I see there are new patches up, which I need to retest this week | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | devananda: I will try to give them a spin as well | 16:05 |
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| devananda | as far as the hardware tests I've been doing - the environment is up but some kinks are still being worked out with our deployment. I'm hoping by EOW, and no later than the summit, we'll have some significant testing done against it | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | devananda : that will really nice | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | devananda: are you testing with OVN? | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | anybody else is testing these patches as well? | 16:08 |
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| * sambetts hasn't had a chance to rebase his out of driver driver since the network interface to driver change | 16:09 | |
| sambetts | out of tree | 16:09 |
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| devananda | Sukhdev: yes, with OVN | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : I am also in the same dilemma - my setup is running 2-3 weeks old pathes | 16:10 |
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| Sukhdev | devananda : cool - so, the neutron-ironic interface is working just fine for you | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : I am thinking about updating my setup with latest patches | 16:11 |
| devananda | unsure - we were at that point in the build last week, and I haven't sync with the team yet today | 16:12 |
| * jroll bbiaf | 16:12 | |
| Sukhdev | devananda: ah I see - if you need any help, feel free to ping me | 16:13 |
| sambetts | I think its in a fairly stable state now, its probably at a point where I can confidently rebase my interface and not have to worry about having to drastically change it again | 16:13 |
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| vdrok | yep, updates during the last 2 weeks were mostly unittests | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | :-) | 16:13 |
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| devananda | sambetts: well, there's one major issue in it | 16:14 |
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| devananda | I left feedback on p31 | 16:14 |
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| devananda | * on review 285852 patch 31 | 16:15 |
| * Sukhdev looking | 16:15 | |
| devananda | two issues: | 16:15 |
| devananda | - network drivers are loaded at instantiation of the Node object, but should be loaded when the Conductor starts | 16:15 |
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| devananda | - upgrade path requires a CONF change, and not doing so breaks ironic-conductor silently | 16:15 |
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| sambetts | First issue solved by ensuring that enabled_network_drivers is processed at conductor start | 16:17 |
| sambetts | right? | 16:17 |
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| devananda | yes, except the new interface isn't loaded there | 16:17 |
| devananda | so it may take some refactoring - -I'm not sure | 16:17 |
| sambetts | second by having a check in the init for the network drivers if cleaning is enabled: ensure conf is there | 16:17 |
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| devananda | if enabled_network_drivers were instantiated within CondctorManager.__init__, that would address the first one | 16:19 |
| devananda | it would also cause the second one to result in an error message and Condcutor's refusal to start today | 16:19 |
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| devananda | which would be better than a silent failure, but also, I htink the wrong solution | 16:19 |
| devananda | I'd like to ask -- do we actually need to define the cleaning_network_uuid for the FlatNetworkDriver ? | 16:20 |
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| sambetts | devananda: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285852/36/ironic/drivers/modules/network/flat.py its needed for add_cleaning_network | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | devananda : hasn't this been the case before? | 16:21 |
| devananda | as this patch stands, it adds a new requirement to Ironic -- all deployments must set a Neutron Network UUID | 16:21 |
| devananda | even if they do not have Neutron in the environment | 16:21 |
| devananda | because flat networks worked just fine without Neutron before | 16:21 |
| devananda | ie, in the case of a stand-alone ironic | 16:21 |
| jroll | devananda: we do, that's a thing today | 16:21 |
| devananda | or a private single-tenant cloud | 16:21 |
| jroll | afaik | 16:21 |
| devananda | jroll: no, it's not | 16:21 |
| jroll | how are cleaning ports created then? | 16:22 |
| vdrok | devananda: yep, before it was required only when neutron dhcp is used and cleaning is enabled | 16:22 |
| jroll | right, that | 16:22 |
| devananda | vdrok: exactly | 16:22 |
| vdrok | s/before/now | 16:22 |
| devananda | so if I'm using bifrost (with no neutron) I don't need to set this | 16:22 |
| jroll | so yeah, I guess it might need a refactor so that only happens if neutron dhcp is in use | 16:22 |
| devananda | after this patch, I have to pass in a fake UUID for this variable | 16:22 |
| devananda | s/variable/CONF option/ | 16:22 |
| sambetts | we just need an if statement in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285852/36/ironic/drivers/modules/network/flat.py L36 that checks if cleaning enabled right? | 16:23 |
| jroll | nod | 16:23 |
| devananda | cool | 16:23 |
| jroll | sambetts: well, it should be able to work without that config, if noop dhcp provider is used | 16:23 |
| jroll | "it" being cleaning | 16:23 |
| jroll | clint was also requesting that the config accept a name | 16:23 |
| jroll | but idk if he put that in the review | 16:24 |
| sambetts | while we're hacking adding the cleaning network via the dhcp provider | 16:24 |
| sambetts | once that is deprecated and we're calling the network provider for cleaning networks directly then is cleaning enabled is your only flag for disabling it right? | 16:24 |
| vdrok | jroll: he did not, and idk if it's worth adding this too right now, lots of stuff there already, we could change it later if needed | 16:25 |
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| jroll | vdrok: sure | 16:25 |
| jroll | sambetts: well, it actually depends on the dhcp provider really :/ | 16:25 |
| jroll | maybe we shouldn't be moving that, hrm | 16:25 |
| sambetts | personally I think that the dhcp should be moved inside the network driver | 16:26 |
| jroll | or perhaps we need to fold dhcp provider things... yeah | 16:26 |
| jroll | I feel like we can do that after all of these things, with the one catch being this config | 16:26 |
| vdrok | the easiest thing would be to meove the cleaning net check inside cleaning methods instead of init right? | 16:27 |
| devananda | vdrok: or into the conductor's __init__ ? | 16:27 |
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| sambetts | but then it fails during runtime and I'd love to have it just blow up the conductor at the start if i've got an invalid config | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts +1 | 16:28 |
| devananda | sambetts: yes | 16:28 |
| devananda | DriverLoadError will only abort the conductor if raised during __init__ | 16:28 |
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| devananda | so if we don't check this during conductor init, it will just get logged over and over again (which is what I'm seeing right now) | 16:29 |
| sambetts | having an if CONF.cleaning_enabled in the FlatProviders init would allow it to work if they are using the Ironic config correctly | 16:29 |
| devananda | sambetts: IFF we also instantiated FlatNetworkProvider during ConductorManager.__init__ -- which we don't today | 16:29 |
| sambetts | (I'm assuming that these drivers will be loaded at conductor load) | 16:29 |
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| devananda | :) | 16:29 |
| sambetts | which I really want them to be | 16:29 |
| devananda | ++ | 16:30 |
| jroll | fwiw, I'm surprised the drivers aren't loading at conductor init, they look like they should be already | 16:30 |
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| vdrok | driver_factory.NetworkInterfaceFactory() in init_host? | 16:30 |
| jroll | ^ yeah, that's what's needed | 16:30 |
| jroll | ah, that isn't done today | 16:31 |
| jroll | my mistake | 16:31 |
| Sukhdev | it seems like simple fix, but, will require good amount of testing - | 16:32 |
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| Sukhdev | Anything else on this patch? | 16:35 |
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| devananda | Sukhdev: that's it for me | 16:35 |
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| Sukhdev | devananda : thanks for articulating the issue - when I saw the comments on p35, I thought your issue was addressed | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: VLAN aware servers | 16:36 |
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| Sukhdev | We discussed this last week, and I followed up in Neutron | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | thought I give a quick update | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev | So, OVN has this implemented | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev | the author who was looking for OVS got pulled into something else | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev | hence, it has not been getting much attention in the neutron side - | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | but, last week I raised the priority because of Ironic need | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | We are looking into separating out the OVS implementation from the API - | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | this means, the basic core API will be implemented so that who ever has need for it can use it | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | which works best for us for Ironic integration | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | I am also trying to get a design session on this topic so that we can all discuss | 16:40 |
| Sukhdev | as you know neutron is one of the biggest project, and, the number of sessions tend to be tight - | 16:41 |
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| Sukhdev | but, I will continue to hope and push for one :-) | 16:41 |
| jroll | oh! we did get the cross-project session for this on tuesday | 16:41 |
| sambetts | ++ for generic API, my concern with the existing API is that they define a translation between what comes out of the VM and what is carried on the neutron network, which of course doesn't work for most BM cases because we can't run anything between the node and the switch | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | jroll : cool - thanks for sharing this news | 16:42 |
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| sambetts | \o/ | 16:42 |
| jroll | np, almost forgot :) | 16:42 |
| devananda | jroll: woot! | 16:43 |
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| sambetts | Neutron summit session ideas are here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-summit-ideas | 16:43 |
| sambetts | Ours is L34 | 16:44 |
| sambetts | Sukhdev: any idea when the decision will be made for neutron? | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : correct, present proposal was by OVN (and OVS team) - hence, very VM centric | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : I think the deadline for the session schedule is 4/17 - | 16:45 |
| sambetts | Sukhdev: Yeah, we (Cisco) have an interest for making in more generic for SRIOV too, because that has the same problem as BM | 16:45 |
| sambetts | making it* | 16:45 |
| sambetts | Sukhdev: So we should know by next meeting then | 16:46 |
| sambetts | awesome :) | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : yup | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | BTW, I saw rosella replied on ML that she will pick up the work on VLAN aware VMs - she was driving it earlier | 16:47 |
| Sukhdev | this means we will get traction on this - | 16:47 |
| sambetts | Great! | 16:47 |
| Sukhdev | What I am trying to do is to pull all the players in a room so that we can all lay out the requirements and work together so that duplicated work can be avoided | 16:48 |
| Sukhdev | so that it is VLAN aware server (not just VMs) | 16:48 |
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| Sukhdev | Anything else on this? | 16:49 |
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| sambetts | Sort of related, I've added by patches to glean to add support for bonding and multiple vlans | 16:49 |
| sambetts | to the midcycle ehterpad | 16:49 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : yes, I saw them - thanks | 16:50 |
| sambetts | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-neutron-mid-cycle L73 | 16:50 |
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| sambetts | when I get a moment I hope to try to chase the same for cloudinit also | 16:51 |
| sambetts | glean was an easy first target though | 16:52 |
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| Sukhdev | anything else on this? | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Open Discussion | 16:53 |
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| Sukhdev | Any body wants to discuss anything? | 16:54 |
| sambetts | Nothing from me | 16:54 |
| Sukhdev | silence is golden | 16:54 |
| jroll | :) | 16:55 |
| Sukhdev | shall we call it a day? | 16:55 |
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| sambetts | +1 | 16:55 |
| Sukhdev | OK | 16:55 |
| Sukhdev | thanks folks - it was a great discussion | 16:55 |
| jroll | thanks y'all :) | 16:55 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 16:56 |
| sambetts | Thanks everyone | 16:56 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 16:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 11 16:56:17 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:56 |
| vdrok | thanks | 16:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-04-11-16.00.html | 16:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-04-11-16.00.txt | 16:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-04-11-16.00.log.html | 16:56 |
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| Sukhdev | anybody here to attend L2GW meeting? | 17:03 |
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| Sukhdev | Looks like we do not have a quorum - so, will wait for few more minutes before I cancel the meeting | 17:04 |
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| mriedem | tonyb: are you running this show today? | 21:00 |
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| tonyb | mriedem: sure I was just poking you in #openstack-stable | 21:00 |
| tonyb | #startmeeting stable | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 11 21:00:51 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| tonyb | roll call .. who's here? | 21:01 |
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| ihrachys | o/ | 21:01 |
| bknudson | hi | 21:01 |
| mriedem | o/ | 21:01 |
| mriedem | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StableTeam#Agenda | 21:01 |
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| tonyb | #topic status | 21:01 |
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| tonyb | peridoci jobs | 21:02 |
| tonyb | asside from the conder one that was resolved overnight I think we're good there | 21:02 |
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| tonyb | there have been spotty failures but that's normal | 21:02 |
| tonyb | #link periodic-stable job faliures (logstash): http://goo.gl/5qiw2U | 21:02 |
| mriedem | nova liberty was broken last week but fixed now | 21:02 |
| mriedem | we backported the constraints changes to tox.ini so nova unit test jobs on stable/liberty use upper-constraints now | 21:03 |
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| ihrachys | we did similar thing for neutron-*aas repos in Liberty too | 21:03 |
| tonyb | mriedem: fixtures right? IIRC that hurt neutron as well | 21:03 |
| ihrachys | so neutron is all constrained too | 21:03 |
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| bknudson | someday keystone might support constraints in tox.ini | 21:03 |
| mriedem | yes, fixtures 2.0 | 21:04 |
| tonyb | I might do some checking to see who is constrained in liberty | 21:04 |
| mriedem | tonyb: same idea here for cinder in liberty https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303932/ | 21:04 |
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| ihrachys | on constraints, we really need to start expanding global-requirements CI to include project jobs. | 21:04 |
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| mriedem | ihrachys: yeah, i'm going to bring that up on the backward compat tuesday xp session at the summit | 21:04 |
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| tonyb | mriedem: I *think* that ones safe to abandon but I'll check during the day | 21:05 |
| ihrachys | mriedem: cool. I have a patch on that | 21:05 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/303054 | 21:05 |
| ihrachys | though it needs a respin since it won't work as is | 21:05 |
| tonyb | ihrachys: cool. I was going to do somethign similar but post summit | 21:05 |
| mriedem | there are 3 xp sessions on tuesday that impact stable | 21:06 |
| ihrachys | let's just make sure we have agreement from other folks on the direction :) | 21:06 |
| ihrachys | summit should be the right time | 21:06 |
| mriedem | i have them in open discussion | 21:06 |
| tonyb | we break all sorts of things with u-c changes, nova, neutron, horizon, magnum all bitten in the last cycle | 21:06 |
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| mriedem | i imagine the thurs fishbowl session for stable will be talking about the outcome of the tuesday sessions and making plans | 21:06 |
| bknudson | it used to be everything broke when the lib was released | 21:06 |
| tonyb | mriedem: Yeah do the planning on Tuesday and hash out the details then | 21:06 |
| ihrachys | bknudson: now it's everything broke after 3hours :P | 21:07 |
| tonyb | mriedem: was your Thursday conflict sorted out? | 21:07 |
| mriedem | tonyb: yeah | 21:07 |
| tonyb | \o/ | 21:07 |
| bknudson | I guess I shouldn't say when the lib was released, it was when the openstack cache was updated. | 21:07 |
| tonyb | bknudson: it's really helping but still not perfect | 21:08 |
| tonyb | moving on? | 21:08 |
| mriedem | yeah | 21:08 |
| tonyb | #topci release news | 21:08 |
| tonyb | #topic release news | 21:08 |
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| tonyb | mriedem: nova 12.0.3? | 21:08 |
| mriedem | yeah https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/liberty | 21:08 |
| mriedem | lyarwood was asking for that this week | 21:09 |
| mriedem | there are some open +2ed reviews that i'd like to get in first | 21:09 |
| ihrachys | mriedem: so nova plans to sort MTU out in L?\ | 21:09 |
| tonyb | mriedem: last time I looked there were 3-4 of your that had one +2 that looked like good candidates .... | 21:09 |
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| mriedem | ihrachys: this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285710/ | 21:10 |
| ihrachys | yeah | 21:11 |
| mriedem | i haven't really decided since it introduced problems in mitaka for dpdk | 21:11 |
| mriedem | but in mitaka neutron also changed the default mtu value which is what broke dpdk | 21:11 |
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| mriedem | it wouldn't be the same issue in liberty by default | 21:11 |
| mriedem | the issue was this other change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289370/ | 21:12 |
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| ihrachys | ok. I also suspect it would require some more stuff on neutron side, but I would need to check. I just have not bothered to backport that assuming nova won't go with their part. | 21:12 |
| mriedem | i don't think neutron can backport changing the default mtu value | 21:12 |
| mriedem | basically, on the nova side, i think we'd have to make sure https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289370/ is in if we did https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285710/ | 21:13 |
| ihrachys | yeah. but we then can at least provide guidance to users on how to achieve proper setup | 21:13 |
| ihrachys | it's a matter of some conf changes, but that should be ok for those who want it sorted for L | 21:13 |
| mriedem | ihrachys: i don't know all of the mitaka mtu change details, but are you suggesting backporting the default mtu value config change in neutron from mitaka to liberty? | 21:14 |
| ihrachys | mriedem: not really. but I think we had other fixes as well. | 21:15 |
| ihrachys | mriedem: like the ones setting MTU on interface driver managed interfaces (f.e. for router or DHCP ports) based on network MTU | 21:15 |
| ihrachys | so with those in, users would 'only' need to change config values to get proper behaviour | 21:16 |
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| mriedem | we can move on probably | 21:17 |
| tonyb | ok | 21:17 |
| tonyb | nothign for stuck reviews | 21:18 |
| tonyb | and AFAICT no new changes in tooling | 21:18 |
| tonyb | so .... | 21:18 |
| tonyb | #topic open discussion | 21:18 |
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| anteaya | o/ | 21:18 |
| ihrachys | hi anteaya! | 21:19 |
| mriedem | the open discussion stuff is just fyi | 21:19 |
| anteaya | hello ihrachys | 21:19 |
| tonyb | anteaya: is that hi or "I have something"? | 21:19 |
| anteaya | I have an item | 21:19 |
| anteaya | I have something | 21:19 |
| tonyb | anteaya: you have the virtual floor | 21:19 |
| anteaya | shall I just yell it out | 21:19 |
| anteaya | thank you | 21:19 |
| anteaya | in infra today robcresswell the horizon ptl was asking about how to add folks to horizon stable | 21:20 |
| anteaya | we tried to guide them to you | 21:20 |
| tonyb | anteaya: Yeah he poked me overnight | 21:20 |
| david-lyle | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091655.html | 21:20 |
| anteaya | did anyone chat with anyone from horizon about this? | 21:20 |
| anteaya | tonyb: awesome | 21:20 |
| david-lyle | for reference | 21:20 |
| anteaya | thanks david-lyle | 21:20 |
| tonyb | anteaya: I haven't replied because meeting / 7am | 21:20 |
| ihrachys | tonyb: is it documented anywhere? | 21:20 |
| anteaya | tonyb: yup, I understand | 21:20 |
| tonyb | ihrachys: it's loosley documented in the stable guide | 21:20 |
| mriedem | there is sort of a thing | 21:21 |
| tonyb | ihrachys: I'll work on nailign that down. | 21:21 |
| mriedem | http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#project-specific-teams | 21:21 |
| anteaya | part of this is me saying hello, and participating in the stable meeting | 21:21 |
| tonyb | anteaya: :) | 21:21 |
| anteaya | :) | 21:21 |
| mriedem | the stable maint team is mostly just a sanity check on project-specifc core team nominations | 21:21 |
| mriedem | at least IMO | 21:21 |
| tonyb | #action tonyb to sync up with Rob re horizon-stable-core | 21:21 |
| mriedem | and that's how i treated it before | 21:21 |
| anteaya | cool | 21:22 |
| tonyb | Yeah I fell like we need to see $person doign stable reviews befoer they're added to core | 21:22 |
| ihrachys | the text seems rather clear to me. if that's not enough for projects, I guess it's wise to ask for suggestions. | 21:22 |
| tonyb | that part isn't called out specifically | 21:22 |
| david-lyle | in the past (maybe long past) PTLs were added automatically | 21:22 |
| mriedem | i don't think just because someone is the PTL of a project that qualifies them for stable core | 21:22 |
| david-lyle | is that no longer the case? | 21:22 |
| ihrachys | tonyb: I think it's an implicit part of the culture in the project that you don't get +2 before enough reviews are done | 21:23 |
| mriedem | like tonyb said you have to actually be doing stable branch reviews and show you know the policy | 21:23 |
| anteaya | yeah that makes sense, knowledge drift is a thing | 21:23 |
| tonyb | ihrachys: sure but you can +2 on master so .... there is some argument :/ | 21:23 |
| anteaya | for instance I didn't know about the section in the project team guide until now | 21:23 |
| anteaya | thanks mriedem | 21:23 |
| mriedem | a core can +2 an api change on master, sure, | 21:24 |
| mriedem | that does'nt mean that core should +2 a backport of said api change on stable | 21:24 |
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| tonyb | mriedem: I didn't say I agreed with the argument just that it happens | 21:25 |
| mriedem | yeah, it's pretty weak imo | 21:25 |
| mriedem | anywho' | 21:25 |
| tonyb | mriedem: did you have something? | 21:26 |
| mriedem | no | 21:26 |
| tonyb | mriedem: or did I misunderstand you earlier comment? | 21:26 |
| tonyb | ahh okay | 21:26 |
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| mriedem | about? | 21:26 |
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| tonyb | mriedem: nm I took it out of context | 21:26 |
| tonyb | summit items .... | 21:26 |
| tonyb | Stable team fishbowl session is scheduled for 1:30pm on Thursday of the Design Summit. | 21:27 |
| tonyb | Tuesday cross-project session to discuss co-installability requirements: https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9473 | 21:27 |
| tonyb | Tuesday cross-project session to discuss stable branch EOL policy https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9474 | 21:27 |
| tonyb | Tuesday cross-project session to discuss backward compat for libraries: https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9475 | 21:27 |
| tonyb | lots of good stuff there and I expect some "robust discussion" :) | 21:27 |
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| anteaya | points for good use of robust | 21:28 |
| tonyb | anteaya: :) | 21:28 |
| tonyb | anthing else for the meeting? | 21:28 |
| mriedem | apoplectic discussion? | 21:28 |
| mriedem | i learned about apoplectic the other day | 21:28 |
| anteaya | there's a good one | 21:28 |
| anteaya | it also is a good word | 21:29 |
| tonyb | mriedem: It's hard to work into a discussion so good job :) | 21:29 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 21:29 |
| tonyb | 3 ... | 21:29 |
| tonyb | 2 ... | 21:29 |
| tonyb | 1 | 21:29 |
| tonyb | Thanks everyone | 21:29 |
| tonyb | #endmeeting | 21:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 11 21:30:03 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-04-11-21.00.html | 21:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-04-11-21.00.txt | 21:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-04-11-21.00.log.html | 21:30 |
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| ihrachys | o/ | 21:30 |
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