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| piet | Morning | 15:01 |
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| robcresswell | o/ | 15:01 |
| julim | morning | 15:01 |
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| hurgleburgler | (◠‿◠✿)ノ | 15:01 |
| piet | #startmeeting openstack_ux | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Apr 15 15:01:46 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is piet. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack_ux)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ux' | 15:01 |
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| piet | Let's take role | 15:02 |
| krotscheck | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 15:02 |
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| TravT | o/ | 15:02 |
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| piet | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/UX | 15:03 |
| piet | #topic OpenStack Summit | 15:04 |
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| piet | A couple of things you should know about that are in the meeting wiki | 15:04 |
| _ducttape_ | o/ | 15:04 |
| piet | We will be running a usability study on Wednesday to study the OpenStackClient | 15:05 |
| piet | Hilton Austin - Level 6 - MR 613 | 15:05 |
| betherly | o/ | 15:06 |
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| piet | We need a few more operators to participate | 15:06 |
| piet | Although recruiting through the foundation went well | 15:06 |
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| piet | Send your operators buddies to http://doodle.com/poll/g7fvzhzm8ycpqefv | 15:06 |
| piet | I want to say we're at five participants and would like to get to ten | 15:07 |
| robcresswell | You can tag it in the ops track | 15:07 |
| robcresswell | That might help? | 15:07 |
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| piet | Yeah, good point. | 15:08 |
| TravT | yeah, people may just find it and show up | 15:08 |
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| hurgleburgler | maybe we should bribe people with swag | 15:08 |
| piet | Would rather schedule just to make sure we have heads. Maybe a combo of both | 15:08 |
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| piet | yeah, need to find companies that are willing to contribute swag | 15:09 |
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| TravT | just make a few swings through the marketplace with a bag | 15:09 |
| TravT | and then redistribute | 15:09 |
| TravT | ;) | 15:09 |
| piet | Am talking at the board meeting about setting aside money for gratuities | 15:10 |
| piet | Travt nice! | 15:10 |
| piet | Any comments/concerns? ducctape interest in participating? | 15:11 |
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| piet | We need to show value so the foundation assumes that we will always get a space at the summit for research | 15:12 |
| hurgleburgler | ducttape_ isn't here | 15:12 |
| TravT | _ducttape_: ^ | 15:12 |
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| hurgleburgler | TravT thanks :) | 15:12 |
| piet | I can reach-out to him later | 15:13 |
| robcresswell | tab autocomplete guys :p | 15:13 |
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| TravT | piet what is the scope of the OSC commands being tested? | 15:13 |
| TravT | is this on an etherpad or something? | 15:14 |
| _ducttape_ | I'm here, sorry | 15:15 |
| piet | We are still working on scenarios but it would look like adding folks to a project and adjusting quotas . There are a few others, but not in front of me. | 15:15 |
| _ducttape_ | had to walk away for second | 15:15 |
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| TravT | ok | 15:15 |
| piet | I sent out an email to a few operators to ask about operator tasks | 15:15 |
| _ducttape_ | you were pinging me about os client stuff? interviews? | 15:16 |
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| piet | _duttape_ Usability at the summit to investigate the OpenStackClient with operators | 15:16 |
| _ducttape_ | right now os client is mainly used for keystone stuff for us, many other tasks we still fall back to the other clis | 15:16 |
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| piet | We are ok with people that don't have deep experience | 15:17 |
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| _ducttape_ | the os-client is really a work in progress at the current time, it's tough to give feedback on something halfway implemented | 15:17 |
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| piet | We are specifically using tasks that are in the client | 15:17 |
| piet | http://doodle.com/poll/g7fvzhzm8ycpqefv | 15:18 |
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| piet | #topic Persona Presentation | 15:19 |
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| piet | Just as an FYI, we have a persona presentation on Mon, 2:00pm-2:40pm at Austin Convention Center - Level 1 - Ballroom C | 15:19 |
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| piet | Eventually we will work with the keystone folks and the founsation to align on roles | 15:20 |
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| _ducttape_ | what does that mean piet ? there will be some standard set of roles ? | 15:21 |
| piet | The personas are pivoting a bit to include "model companies" that describe adoption strategies for different different companies | 15:21 |
| piet | We're trying to get at a standard set | 15:21 |
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| _ducttape_ | ok. I would expect a lot of people to have custom roles and use them in different ways, would be my concern | 15:22 |
| piet | For example, the roles you see in the survey will be the same ones that are being used by the Product WG | 15:22 |
| piet | _ducttape_ agreed | 15:22 |
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| piet | _ducttape_ It feels very difficult to create roles because the tasks associated with them vary | 15:23 |
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| piet | _ducttape_ which is why we are pivoting towards model companies | 15:23 |
| _ducttape_ | the motivation behind different roles, what users are trying to get at with them, etc.... | 15:23 |
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| piet | _ducttape_ the motivation is provide a standar set of roles for the product wg | 15:24 |
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| piet | Also, there doesn't seem to be much agreement in the community on the different roles. Would like to standardize | 15:25 |
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| piet | For example, make sure that keystone and the other projects agree on the roles so there is alignment | 15:26 |
| piet | BTW - a huge takeway from the user survey was lack of coordination between projects | 15:26 |
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| piet | Coolio? ready to change topics? | 15:26 |
| robcresswell | Sure | 15:26 |
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| piet | #topic OpenStack board presentation | 15:27 |
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| piet | We are presenting to the board on Sun, 9:20 - 9:40 @ JW Marriott Level 3, Salons G/H | 15:28 |
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| piet | thirty minutes https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1nq749sBG5x-xqEy7QOxCUduMDHdJWiC24RJVzpaAUpA/edit?usp=sharing | 15:28 |
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| piet | Please do not change the presentation | 15:28 |
| piet | Decent visibility hopefully | 15:29 |
| tsufiev | piet, perhaps change visibility to 'Anyone with link can comment'? | 15:30 |
| tsufiev | to avoid unpleasant surprises | 15:30 |
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| piet | tsufiev I have some folks from IBM also editing, but good idea because we're basically done | 15:32 |
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| piet | tsufiev done | 15:32 |
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| piet | Among other things, asking the foundation for $$$$ for research gratuities | 15:33 |
| piet | Coolio? | 15:33 |
| robcresswell | Sounds good | 15:33 |
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| tsufiev | piet, it'd be safer anyways, thanks :) | 15:33 |
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| piet | tsufiev yep | 15:34 |
| piet | #topic Video interview in SuperUser | 15:34 |
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| piet | I will be interviewed on SuperUser on Thurs, 11:35 | 15:35 |
| piet | About stuff that OpenStack UX is working on | 15:35 |
| piet | Coolio? | 15:36 |
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| piet | #topic UX Working Session @ Design Summit | 15:37 |
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| piet | Wed, 11:50am-12:30pm @ Hilton Austin - MR 414 | 15:37 |
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| piet | Mostly planning and discussing why no one is using the UX repo | 15:38 |
| robcresswell | That clashes with the Horizon fishbowl, so I wont be able to make it | 15:38 |
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| piet | Fun...let me see if I can change the time | 15:38 |
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| piet | Assuming all of you are going to the Horizon Fishbowl? | 15:39 |
| robcresswell | Its just the feedback session, so not necessarily | 15:39 |
| piet | Gotcha | 15:39 |
| robcresswell | Mainly just be throwing things at the ptl I think | 15:40 |
| piet | Maybe I should go to the fishbowl.... | 15:40 |
| piet | robcresswell Like apples? | 15:40 |
| piet | Tomatos? | 15:40 |
| robcresswell | apples, rotten tomatoes, that kind of thing | 15:40 |
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| piet | #topic recruiting for studies | 15:41 |
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| piet | So, the foundation has created a list of folks that are willing to participate in user research | 15:41 |
| piet | About 150 of them | 15:41 |
| piet | Different roles | 15:41 |
| * krotscheck will throw javascript at the PTL | 15:42 | |
| piet | So, here is the informal protocol for recruiting participants | 15:42 |
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| piet | #1 project needs to conduct research | 15:43 |
| piet | #2 approaches OpenStack PTL | 15:43 |
| piet | #3 OpenStack UX prioritizes research | 15:44 |
| piet | #4 we are allowed one recruitment per month to avoid burn-out | 15:44 |
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| piet | Informal process, but intended to save the foundation headaches by getting multiple requests | 15:45 |
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| piet | I believe that the Horizon/Searchlight will be next month (assuming they get their stuff together) | 15:45 |
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| piet | travt I need some dates for the study | 15:46 |
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| piet | travt Hellllloooooo | 15:47 |
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| robcresswell | TravT ^^ | 15:47 |
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| piet | Or Horizon/Searchlight will be pushed to June | 15:47 |
| robcresswell | piet: Fairly sure its case-sensitive | 15:48 |
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| piet | Kk | 15:48 |
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| piet | #topic User Overview panel | 15:49 |
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| piet | david-lyle Have you heard from London? | 15:49 |
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| piet | So, the London OTC UX team should be working on concepts for the Overview panel | 15:50 |
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| piet | I believe due early next week for review | 15:50 |
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| piet | Okey anything else? | 15:51 |
| david-lyle | piet progressing nicely | 15:52 |
| piet | david-lyle when are you reviewing? | 15:52 |
| david-lyle | should be up for community review soonish, there is a vacation involved | 15:53 |
| piet | Kk | 15:53 |
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| piet | #topic Pholio | 15:54 |
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| piet | Take a look at http://os01.mcwhirter.io/ and lemme know if suitable replacement for Invision | 15:54 |
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| robcresswell | Did you mean pholio or phabricator? | 15:55 |
| piet | pholio is an app inside of phabricator | 15:56 |
| robcresswell | Ah | 15:56 |
| tsufiev | where is exactly a design review tool inside the site at link? | 15:56 |
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| tsufiev | ah, I see - it's at http://os01.mcwhirter.io/pholio/ | 15:56 |
| piet | Go to "customize menu" in the left menu | 15:57 |
| piet | I believe you can add pholio from there | 15:57 |
| piet | Not sure whether it will scale to 1000's of images | 15:57 |
| robcresswell | If it scales to ten images its way ahead of invision | 15:57 |
| piet | opensource and can be hosted by the community | 15:58 |
| piet | robcresswell exactly | 15:58 |
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| piet | Maybe able to integrate with gerrit, but need to aks | 15:58 |
| piet | "ask" | 15:58 |
| robcresswell | Async loading! Hoorah! This wins | 15:58 |
| piet | robcresswell winner, winner chicken dinner | 15:59 |
| piet | ok - gotta go to another meeting to review some persona illustrations | 15:59 |
| piet | Anything else? | 16:00 |
| robcresswell | thanks piet | 16:00 |
| piet | yep | 16:00 |
| tsufiev | thanks, piet | 16:00 |
| tsufiev | robcresswell, have to investigate how well it handles a lot of comments | 16:00 |
| piet | tsufiev yep | 16:00 |
| piet | #endmeeting openstack_ux | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Apr 15 16:00:55 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ux/2016/openstack_ux.2016-04-15-15.01.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ux/2016/openstack_ux.2016-04-15-15.01.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ux/2016/openstack_ux.2016-04-15-15.01.log.html | 16:01 |
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