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| gsagie | #startmeeting dragonflow | 09:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 16 09:01:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gsagie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 09:01 |
| gsagie | Hello everyone, | 09:01 |
| scsnow | hi | 09:01 |
| gsagie | Who is here for dragonflow meeting? :) | 09:01 |
| DuanKebo | Hi | 09:01 |
| vikasc_ | hi | 09:01 |
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| yuli_s | hello | 09:01 |
| gampel | hi | 09:01 |
| oanson | Hi | 09:01 |
| Shlomo_N | yo | 09:02 |
| gsagie | #info #info scsnow, DuanKebo, gampel, yuli_s, oanson, Shlomo_N, vikasc_, gsagie in meeting | 09:02 |
| gsagie | ok everyone we are doing the first meeting after the summit | 09:02 |
| gsagie | lets focus on the version stability and bugs | 09:02 |
| gsagie | and try to get into a version we can tag | 09:03 |
| gsagie | #topic bugs - security groups | 09:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs - security groups (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:03 | |
| gsagie | DuanKebo: i enabled tempest security groups tests and some tests are failing, we need someone to look at the logs and fix these bugs | 09:03 |
| gsagie | you can see the scenarios here: | 09:03 |
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| gsagie | http://logs.openstack.org/58/316558/2/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-dragonflow/6e108c9/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 09:04 |
| gsagie | If you go down you will see .TestSecurityGroupsBasicOps | 09:04 |
| gsagie | there is a good chance that the failures are related to floating IPs as well so we need to investigate this | 09:04 |
| DuanKebo | Hi gal, np | 09:04 |
| gsagie | We also should investigate the other failing tests there (many related to floating ip) | 09:05 |
| gsagie | okie great | 09:05 |
| gampel | yes we need to fix all the errors in the tempest | 09:05 |
| gsagie | #action DuanKebo to investigate failing security groups tempest tests | 09:05 |
| gsagie | Any more known bugs for security groups? | 09:05 |
| yuli_s | i have numerous problems with FIP | 09:05 |
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| gsagie | lets finish with security groups for sec and then move to FIP | 09:05 |
| yuli_s | but each time the bug is different and I can not reproduce same bug | 09:06 |
| gsagie | yuli_s: any important bugs open for security groups? | 09:06 |
| gsagie | I saw we have a patch that implement port security, we need to review this but its less critical right now | 09:06 |
| gsagie | oanson: noticed any bug with security groups? | 09:07 |
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| yuli_s | i have seen the following problem, the packet comming from outside | 09:07 |
| oanson | No. | 09:07 |
| oanson | Nothing new that isn't reported | 09:07 |
| yuli_s | to fip was no passing the firewall | 09:07 |
| gampel | yuli_s: you mean the SG rules | 09:07 |
| gsagie | yuli_s: do we have a bug report? | 09:07 |
| gsagie | and is someone from DuanKebo know this bug? i think we need to work closely with them and report and assign the bugs to the appropriate person | 09:08 |
| yuli_s | nop, I will try to debug this. all the time I have different problems with FIP | 09:08 |
| yuli_s | but I can not reproduce something specific | 09:08 |
| gsagie | yuli_s: we are still with security groups :) | 09:09 |
| gsagie | you have problems with FIP and security groups? | 09:09 |
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| yuli_s | yes, | 09:09 |
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| yuli_s | i will try to reproduce one of the bugs and report it | 09:10 |
| gsagie | ok, we need to try and identify a problem and the way to reproduce it in order to move this into a bug | 09:10 |
| gsagie | reported bugs with no reproduction are problematic | 09:10 |
| gsagie | okie and then we can assign this to DuanKebo team | 09:10 |
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| Shlomo_N | I have reported a SG bug and it still not assiged to anyone: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1577121 | 09:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1577121 in DragonFlow "VM isn't getting an IP using Nova api boot" [High,New] | 09:11 |
| gsagie | humm | 09:11 |
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| gampel | are you using nova-network commands | 09:11 |
| gampel | ? | 09:12 |
| Duan | Hi Shlomo, i will check the sg bg | 09:12 |
| Duan | and find someone to solve it. | 09:12 |
| Shlomo_N | ok, 10x DuanKebo | 09:12 |
| gsagie | gampel: i believe this might be the problem, i think he is using the client | 09:12 |
| gsagie | the python client | 09:12 |
| vikasc_ | Hi folks, i am newbie and would like to start an easy bug. Please let me know if I can help. | 09:12 |
| gsagie | vikasc_: welcome :) | 09:12 |
| gsagie | vikasc_: would you like to look at this bug? | 09:13 |
| vikasc_ | gsagie, thanks :) | 09:13 |
| Duan | welcome! | 09:13 |
| gsagie | Shlomo_N: please add to the bug report details of how you create the VM with Nova | 09:13 |
| vikasc_ | the one which Shlomo_N reported? | 09:13 |
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| vikasc_ | sure | 09:13 |
| gsagie | or the python script | 09:13 |
| gsagie | vikasc_: ok great, will assign this to you | 09:13 |
| vikasc_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1577121 | 09:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1577121 in DragonFlow "VM isn't getting an IP using Nova api boot" [High,New] | 09:13 |
| gampel | Shlomo_N: I comment in your performance patch we support only neutron network , i am not sure if this is related | 09:13 |
| gsagie | vikasc_: or just assign this for yourself | 09:13 |
| gampel | vikasc_: welcome | 09:14 |
| vikasc_ | gsagie, thanks. will assign | 09:14 |
| gsagie | #action vikasc_ look at bug 1577121 | 09:14 |
| Shlomo_N | gampel: I have used nova boot command | 09:14 |
| vikasc_ | gampel, I was able to setup with your pointers. Thanks :) | 09:14 |
| gsagie | #action Shlomo_N update bug 1577121 with steps to reproduce (script or CLI commands to create VM with Nova) | 09:14 |
| openstack | bug 1577121 in DragonFlow "VM isn't getting an IP using Nova api boot" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1577121 | 09:14 |
| gampel | you are welcome | 09:14 |
| gsagie | vikasc_: feel free to ask in the channel if you encounter any problems and thanks for your help | 09:15 |
| gsagie | #topic bugs - distributed DNAT | 09:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs - distributed DNAT (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:15 | |
| vikasc_ | gsagie, sure | 09:15 |
| gsagie | okie, any problems regarding FIP? | 09:15 |
| gsagie | i saw oanson has a patch | 09:15 |
| gsagie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316558/ | 09:15 |
| oanson | This patch is l3 general - not DNAT specific | 09:16 |
| gsagie | DuanKebo: i need you to look at this patch and review as well please, i believe you also investigated this issue and said there is a missing RPC call | 09:16 |
| gampel | yuli_s: did you test the patch ? | 09:16 |
| yuli_s | gampel, I am running stack now with this patch | 09:16 |
| gsagie | gampel: i reviewed the patch, it has some comments, we dont need to use Neutron DVR | 09:17 |
| gsagie | classes | 09:17 |
| gampel | Ok I will review it today | 09:17 |
| oanson | gsagie, I am not certain that's true | 09:17 |
| DuanKebo | OK i will review it | 09:17 |
| oanson | Neutron detects the type of agent. | 09:17 |
| Shlomo_N | gampel: do you still want us to test this patch? | 09:17 |
| DuanKebo | today or tomorrow | 09:17 |
| oanson | If the agent is legacy, not DVR, neutron assumes the router shouldn't be on the compute node. | 09:18 |
| oanson | In that case, the agent doesn't receive the routers to update (during, e.g. sync) | 09:18 |
| oanson | If the agent doesn't mark the routers as updated, Neutron code deletes the related namespaces | 09:18 |
| gsagie | oanson: so what you are saying is that Neutron doesnt work unless its working in DVR mode | 09:19 |
| oanson | In our deployment | 09:19 |
| oanson | Since we are doing a form of DVR | 09:19 |
| oanson | routers are implemented on compute nodes, and not network nodes. | 09:19 |
| gsagie | we are not doing a form of Neutron DVR, lets just continue to investigate this problem | 09:19 |
| oanson | gsagie, I'd be happy if you could explain | 09:20 |
| gampel | oanson: But the l3-agent is not aware of that so it should work | 09:20 |
| gsagie | DVR is implemented internally in DF, Neutron l3 is not aware for this, on the network node we do the same behaivour as the legacy Neutron implementation (for SNAT) | 09:21 |
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| gsagie | also we need to pay attention that with the added code the FIP namespaces are not added | 09:21 |
| gsagie | But we can take this offline | 09:21 |
| gampel | yes I agree lets take this offline and lets all review the patch | 09:21 |
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| gsagie | i was the one that wrote the Neutron seperation code between the DvrLocalRouter and DvrEdgeRouter so i am familiar with this code | 09:22 |
| gsagie | DuanKebo: in general i think that both yuli_s and oanson see that FIP feature is not stable enough right now, is that correct oanson and yuli_s? | 09:22 |
| oanson | gsagie, so can I expect a walkthrough published soon? :) | 09:22 |
| oanson | gsagie, yes | 09:22 |
| gsagie | oanson: np :) | 09:23 |
| DuanKebo | you both can report bug about it, let work together to stablize it | 09:23 |
| gsagie | DuanKebo: anyone from your team is currently testing the version? | 09:23 |
| yuli_s | sure | 09:23 |
| gsagie | we need more testing on the FIP part | 09:23 |
| oanson | DuanKebo, what I saw is reported. I was trying to solve the bug with the patch above. | 09:24 |
| gampel | DuanKebo: will it be possible for you team to do some FIP and SG testing | 09:24 |
| yuli_s | btw I have this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1581946 | 09:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1581946 in DragonFlow "when df-l3-agent is used external network in not created" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Duan Kebo (duankebo) | 09:24 |
| gsagie | We need to make sure that we have good reproduction steps in all the bugs | 09:24 |
| oanson | yuli_s, I think this is the l3 agent issue. I think these networks are only created when q-l3 is enabled. | 09:25 |
| DuanKebo | We will do some FIP test after this iteration. | 09:25 |
| gsagie | yuli_s: can you please go over all the open FIP bugs that are unassigned and assign them to DuanKebo team? | 09:25 |
| gsagie | i will go over it and check that all the bugs are clear enough | 09:25 |
| gsagie | DuanKebo: if there is any bugs you need more information about please reach out | 09:26 |
| gsagie | some of the descriptions are not enough | 09:26 |
| gampel | DuanKebo: this bug is assigned to you, are you looking into it ? | 09:26 |
| DuanKebo | np, you can assign it to me. | 09:26 |
| gampel | It is all ready but if you can not I can look into it | 09:27 |
| DuanKebo | I can, thank you Eran! | 09:27 |
| gsagie | okie, anything else on FIP? | 09:27 |
| gsagie | lets organize the bugs into priorities | 09:28 |
| gsagie | #action yuli_s organize bugs into priorities and assign unassigned bugs | 09:28 |
| gsagie | nick-ma here? | 09:28 |
| nick-ma | yes | 09:28 |
| gsagie | #topic DB consistency | 09:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "DB consistency (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:29 | |
| gsagie | nick-ma: saw the patches, anything need to be discussed? | 09:29 |
| nick-ma | currently the db objects are all versioned. i'm discussing with hujie. he will follow the spec to go to the next step. | 09:29 |
| gsagie | okie great, good job | 09:29 |
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| gsagie | #action hujie continue versioned object work | 09:30 |
| gampel | good job with the lock :) | 09:30 |
| gsagie | gampel: anything else on this topic? | 09:30 |
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| oanson | hear hear | 09:30 |
| gampel | we need to continue the version obj to to the local cache | 09:30 |
| gsagie | gampel: yes, someone needs to do a design for this | 09:30 |
| gampel | I will try to add this | 09:30 |
| gsagie | i can take it if you want | 09:31 |
| nick-ma | yes, and pub/sub. | 09:31 |
| gsagie | nick-ma: yeah, send the version and update the cache accordingly | 09:31 |
| gampel | yes the high level; design is in the pub sub spec , i will review if we need to update it | 09:31 |
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| DuanKebo | Eran, hujie is working on it | 09:31 |
| gsagie | DuanKebo: so no help is needed by me for the local cache and pub-sub for versions ? | 09:31 |
| DuanKebo | consistency between df db and local cache | 09:31 |
| gampel | Ok great tell him to talk with me and review the pub sub spec | 09:32 |
| DuanKebo | need you to review ;-_ | 09:32 |
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| gsagie | #action hujie work on pub-sub version and local cache - db consistency using object versions | 09:32 |
| DuanKebo | ;-) | 09:32 |
| gampel | will do | 09:32 |
| gsagie | #topic open patches | 09:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open patches (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:32 | |
| gsagie | okie, DuanKebo now its your time :) | 09:32 |
| gsagie | what are urgent patches that needs to be reviewed? | 09:32 |
| gsagie | and we havent reviewed yet? | 09:32 |
| DuanKebo | we have several patch to review | 09:33 |
| gsagie | some are in merge conflict, so needs to resolve | 09:33 |
| DuanKebo | the redis ha patch and ml2 driver patch | 09:33 |
| gsagie | #action nick-ma,gampel,gsagie review Redis HA and ML2 driver patches | 09:34 |
| gsagie | anything else urgent? | 09:34 |
| nick-ma | I think here's another patch that we need to take care of, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315433/, this is not new feature, but has lots of changes on interfaces. | 09:34 |
| gampel | Do we want to stabilize the main branch before merging the ML2 ? | 09:34 |
| gsagie | gampel: i think the ML2 is not related to any code | 09:35 |
| nick-ma | we can make ML2 an option in devstack. | 09:35 |
| gsagie | so its transparent, if its not then we shouldnt merge it at this point | 09:35 |
| DuanKebo | i agree with gal | 09:35 |
| gsagie | #action gsagie,gampel review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315433/ | 09:35 |
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| gsagie | thanks nick-ma, will take a look | 09:35 |
| gampel | Ok no problem we just need to make sure we can have a sable tag soon | 09:36 |
| gsagie | yes, we are not merging anything that might hurt stability or new features at this point until we tag | 09:36 |
| nick-ma | Okie. | 09:36 |
| gampel | ok | 09:36 |
| gsagie | DuanKebo: we will take a look at these patches ASAP | 09:37 |
| gsagie | any other important open patch that needs our attention? | 09:37 |
| DuanKebo | OK, 3x to all of you! | 09:37 |
| DuanKebo | I also will encourage guys in bejing to review | 09:37 |
| gsagie | btw DuanKebo one thing that is missing in the ML2 patch is to do another patch to add L3 service plugin to run with it | 09:38 |
| gsagie | #topic metadata service | 09:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "metadata service (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:38 | |
| DuanKebo | Yes , we are working on ti | 09:38 |
| gsagie | DuanKebo: ok great | 09:38 |
| gsagie | oanson: :) | 09:38 |
| oanson | Yes | 09:38 |
| oanson | I have uploaded a metadata service spec | 09:38 |
| oanson | it is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309753/ | 09:39 |
| gsagie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309753/ metadata service spec | 09:39 |
| oanson | There are some open issues that I would like to cover | 09:39 |
| oanson | For instance the namespace issue | 09:39 |
| gsagie | oanson: can you remind the issue? | 09:39 |
| oanson | I think the service can be done without a namespace. I think it is secure enough | 09:39 |
| oanson | I think it will lead to better performance. | 09:39 |
| gampel | oanson: you mean as an application ? | 09:39 |
| gampel | or as a process | 09:40 |
| oanson | I mean as a service within the DF controller | 09:40 |
| gsagie | gampel: as a process i believe | 09:40 |
| oanson | or a separate process - whichever is preferable. | 09:40 |
| gsagie | or a service | 09:40 |
| gampel | a thread in the df_controller ? | 09:40 |
| oanson | gampel, yes | 09:40 |
| gampel | why do you think it weill give beter performance ? | 09:41 |
| oanson | Less processes means less bookkeeping. So within the DF controller seems preferable. | 09:41 |
| oanson | If the service is run within a namespace, then we need a veth pair and NAT to allow packets to reach nova API. | 09:41 |
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| oanson | Without the namespace, this can be waived. | 09:41 |
| gsagie | i think a thread is going to be problematic, but i dont think performance is the main issue here regardless, security and isolation | 09:42 |
| oanson | gsagie, please explain. | 09:42 |
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| gampel | But then it is in Python performance will be bad | 09:42 |
| gsagie | i agree with gampel here, i dont think we want to run it in a thread either way, another process is ok. what we are talking is about the namespace or not the namespace | 09:43 |
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| oanson | The performance is not the main issue. Without a namespace we have simpler code. | 09:43 |
| oanson | Especially if it is run as a thread. | 09:43 |
| oanson | Why don't we want to run it in a thread? | 09:43 |
| gampel | But then your controller is busy with data path | 09:43 |
| gsagie | DuanKebo: basically according to oanson spec metadata traffic is going to go from the VM to a process running on the compute host (our metadata service) is this something that is acceptable or do you think this process needs to run in a seperate namespace for isolation? | 09:43 |
| DuanKebo | is it not a app? just like dhcp? | 09:44 |
| gsagie | DuanKebo: not only an app | 09:44 |
| oanson | And why do we need isolation? The code is safe. External data is sanitised (in some cases twice). | 09:44 |
| gsagie | as we do TCP termination | 09:44 |
| gsagie | so we have an app to install flows and a "service" that adds the HTTP hearders | 09:45 |
| oanson | gampel, It's very little data, and very little to deal with. And if done from the controller, we can use the cache | 09:45 |
| gsagie | and traffic is directed to (oanson please correct me if i got something wrong) | 09:45 |
| gsagie | it | 09:45 |
| DuanKebo | I'm not sure about this question, currently we don't work on metadata service. | 09:45 |
| oanson | gsagie, the traffic is always directed to 169.254.169.254. We divert it in OVS. | 09:45 |
| gsagie | DuanKebo: oanson works on it, we just wanted to consult if the way we are planning to do it is ok with you | 09:46 |
| oanson | But essentially, yes, the traffic is directed to the service. | 09:46 |
| gampel | I think that the DF controller should be part of the data PATH if it is not mandatory , you could have multiple VM or container trying to connect the metadata server it in the same time | 09:46 |
| DuanKebo | OK, i will review the patch. But i think performance is not the problem. | 09:46 |
| DuanKebo | for metadata. | 09:46 |
| gsagie | DuanKebo: yes, mostly a security issue | 09:47 |
| nick-ma | yes. the metadata only services the local instances. | 09:47 |
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| gsagie | i dont think the namespace addition is a big overhead either way, especially since its only one namesapce, but as oanson indicate its simpler with out it | 09:47 |
| oanson | gsagie, I am missing the security issue. | 09:47 |
| gsagie | i am ok with this | 09:47 |
| yuli_s | I am back | 09:47 |
| yuli_s | problem with Internet connectivity | 09:48 |
| gampel | gsagie: what are your security concern , DOS attack ? | 09:48 |
| nick-ma | if the code guarantees the isolation by nature, why not use the thread instead of a process in namespace. | 09:48 |
| gsagie | gampel: its not only security, we are attaching processes and binding ports in the host machine without doing isolation for no good reason, but as i mentioned its not so important for me | 09:49 |
| DuanKebo | +1 nick | 09:49 |
| oanson | DOS attacks are not solved with namespaces anyway. | 09:49 |
| oanson | +1 nick-ma | 09:49 |
| gsagie | i suggested on the spec to email to the mailing list to ask about it | 09:49 |
| oanson | I explain in the spec exactly how and why it is safe. | 09:49 |
| gsagie | nick-ma: its about binding a process to the host networking | 09:49 |
| oanson | We only bind to the one address (169.254.169.54) on an ephemeral port | 09:50 |
| gsagie | okie | 09:50 |
| gampel | My feeling is that the user space thread that we are using are very problematic (signal core etc ) I am not for adding data path in a thread | 09:50 |
| nick-ma | got it. | 09:50 |
| gsagie | if everyone are ok without the namespace its fine with me, i dont have -1 on the patch anyway | 09:50 |
| gsagie | lets continue to next topic | 09:50 |
| gampel | another isuue with this patch i feel that using ports is much simpler | 09:51 |
| gsagie | its not that critical either way, switching to a namespace will not be too hard if we find problems | 09:51 |
| oanson | To summarize: separate process. No namespace. | 09:51 |
| gsagie | gampel: i agree | 09:51 |
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| oanson | gampel, what do you mean? | 09:52 |
| gsagie | oanson: using TCP ports and not changing IPs i believe | 09:52 |
| gampel | oanson: I think that using the IP address for the redirection is too complicated , it will be much simpler with ports redirection | 09:52 |
| oanson | I am not sure I see how. We have to override one field. We have to somehow keep the original value of that field | 09:53 |
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| oanson | What does it matter if its IP or port? | 09:53 |
| gsagie | oanson: no need for the new ARPs | 09:53 |
| gsagie | responders | 09:53 |
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| gsagie | we can manage this per network | 09:53 |
| gsagie | and not per port | 09:53 |
| gsagie | but again lets take this offline | 09:53 |
| oanson | gsagie, that's not true, since we need to support any IP address anyway. | 09:53 |
| oanson | ARPs are sent anyway. | 09:53 |
| gsagie | oanson: thats not how this works in Neutron | 09:54 |
| gampel | oanson: it is much easy to review debug and simpler to understand , the only drawback is the size | 09:54 |
| gsagie | as we discussed cloud-init happens after the instance gets IP | 09:54 |
| oanson | gsagie, Yes. That's the point. :) | 09:54 |
| gsagie | so we dont need to support "Auto IPs" | 09:54 |
| oanson | gsagie, which is irrelevant (as I mentioned in the spec). Any IP is supported. | 09:54 |
| oanson | The proposed solution supportes auto IPs (and any other IPs) automatically. | 09:55 |
| oanson | gampel, I don't see the difference. | 09:55 |
| gsagie | okie, lets continue this on the review | 09:55 |
| gsagie | or offline | 09:55 |
| oanson | The OF port is encoded in the new IP. So we immediately know the source VM anyway. | 09:55 |
| gsagie | want to give Shlomo some minute | 09:55 |
| gsagie | #topic performance testing | 09:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "performance testing (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:55 | |
| gsagie | Shlomo_N: any update? | 09:55 |
| Shlomo_N | 10x :) | 09:56 |
| Shlomo_N | I working on the auto-testing framework | 09:56 |
| Shlomo_N | You can already use it for env. setup | 09:56 |
| Shlomo_N | for multi-node | 09:56 |
| gsagie | Shlomo_N: any patches? | 09:56 |
| gsagie | so we can test it | 09:56 |
| Shlomo_N | sure | 09:56 |
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| Shlomo_N | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304470/ | 09:57 |
| gsagie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304470/ | 09:57 |
| gsagie | okie thanks, we will take a look | 09:57 |
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| Shlomo_N | great | 09:57 |
| gsagie | did we get any performance numbers from feipeng? | 09:57 |
| gsagie | comparing DF to DVR? | 09:57 |
| Shlomo_N | not yet, he need to send me in the coming days | 09:58 |
| DuanKebo | if you haven't, i can send them to you | 09:58 |
| gsagie | DuanKebo: yeah please | 09:58 |
| Shlomo_N | he sent you? | 09:58 |
| gsagie | thanks :) | 09:58 |
| Shlomo_N | sure, thanks | 09:58 |
| DuanKebo | yes, but l3 only | 09:58 |
| gsagie | anything else anyone? | 09:59 |
| gsagie | #topic open discussion | 09:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 09:59 | |
| DuanKebo | Hi Gal | 09:59 |
| gsagie | hi :) | 09:59 |
| Shlomo_N | :) | 09:59 |
| scsnow | gampel, are you working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1524348 ? | 09:59 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1524348 in DragonFlow "dhcp app is missing some functionality which are defined by protocol" [Low,New] - Assigned to Eran Gampel (eran-gampel) | 09:59 |
| Shlomo_N | lol | 09:59 |
| DuanKebo | CI use etcd now, | 09:59 |
| DuanKebo | can we add some test for redis? | 10:00 |
| gsagie | DuanKebo: we can replace this for redis | 10:00 |
| gsagie | we want Redis to be our default | 10:00 |
| gampel | No soon do you want it | 10:00 |
| nick-ma | fullstack test for redis. | 10:00 |
| scsnow | gampel, Yep, I would like to look into this | 10:00 |
| scsnow | if you don't mind | 10:00 |
| gampel | so yes thx please assign it to you | 10:00 |
| DuanKebo | Great! | 10:00 |
| gampel | thanks | 10:01 |
| gsagie | DuanKebo: do you know how to do it or you need my help? | 10:01 |
| scsnow | oanson, can you please answer my question in https://bugs.launchpad.net/dragonflow/+bug/1562966 ? thanks | 10:01 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1562966 in DragonFlow "Subnets in fullstack tests collide and collisions are resolved manually." [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to Pavel Gluschak (scsnow) | 10:01 |
| DuanKebo | No, I don't know | 10:01 |
| gsagie | #action gsagie replace etcd with Redis on CI gate testing | 10:01 |
| oanson | scsnow, sure, let me just read it :) | 10:01 |
| DuanKebo | how to do it | 10:01 |
| scsnow | oanson, thanks | 10:01 |
| gsagie | DuanKebo: okie np, will do it and put you as reviewer so you will see | 10:01 |
| DuanKebo | Great, thank you! | 10:02 |
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| DuanKebo | if there are any failure, i can solve them | 10:02 |
| gsagie | okie thanks everyone for attending, we are our of time | 10:02 |
| nick-ma | thanks. | 10:02 |
| gsagie | DuanKebo: i will let you know once the patch is up | 10:02 |
| gampel | thanks everyone | 10:02 |
| vikasc_ | thanks | 10:02 |
| DuanKebo | Thank you! | 10:02 |
| gsagie | and lets continue in #openstack-dragonflow | 10:02 |
| oanson | Thanks. | 10:02 |
| gsagie | for any questions | 10:02 |
| gsagie | #endmeeting | 10:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 10:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 16 10:02:53 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:02 |
| scsnow | bye | 10:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-05-16-09.01.html | 10:02 |
| DuanKebo | Byebye | 10:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-05-16-09.01.txt | 10:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-05-16-09.01.log.html | 10:02 |
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| Sukhdev | hello folks time for Ironic-neutron meeting | 16:00 |
| mjturek1 | \o | 16:00 |
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| Sukhdev | #startmeeting ironic_neutron | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 16 16:00:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_neutron' | 16:00 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Agenda (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:01 | |
| hshiina | o/ | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_May_16.2C_2016 | 16:01 |
| sambetts | o/ | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Announcements (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:01 | |
| Sukhdev | I got no announcement - anybody else does? | 16:02 |
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| sambetts | Nothing that isn't covered by follow topics :) | 16:02 |
| sambetts | following* | 16:02 |
| jroll | \o | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: VLAN Aware Instances | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": VLAN Aware Instances (Meeting topic: ironic_neutron)" | 16:03 | |
| Sukhdev | sambetts: thanks for pushing updated spec | 16:03 |
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| sambetts | thanks for the comments :) | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277853 | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | Overall it looks good | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | needs some beefing up and some cleanup | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | One thing is not very clear in my mind - that is, are we going to ask the operators to create the trunk ports in some case or not | 16:05 |
| sambetts | no, operators != users | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev | OK - I mean admins | 16:06 |
| sambetts | that'd be like saying that admins should pre-create ports for users today | 16:06 |
| sambetts | which isn't a thing that happens as far as I know is it? An admin creating an un-bound port for a tenant to use? | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | not port, but, shared networks, Yes | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | if a network needs to be shared by tenants, admin creates it | 16:08 |
| sambetts | right, a port can't be shared though | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | so, we are saying ironic driver will always create the trunk ports | 16:09 |
| sambetts | no, they can be created by a user | 16:10 |
| Sukhdev | so, that was my original question - for BM deployments, when do we expect users to do it, and when do we create automatically | 16:11 |
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| Sukhdev | that is a bit fuzzy | 16:11 |
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| sambetts | thats all covered in my examples | 16:11 |
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| Sukhdev | examples cover how nova boot will be issued - I thinking more from the use-case point of view | 16:12 |
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| Sukhdev | say I want to use BM as a cache server (or for containers) - and will be shared by many tenants - | 16:13 |
| sambetts | a nova instance shared by multiple tenants? | 16:13 |
| jroll | O_o | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | ilke a hypervisor - | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | shared by many tenants | 16:15 |
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| sambetts | well that would be a instance owned by a single tenant in the undercloud | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | instead of compute resource, it is a service resource | 16:15 |
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| Sukhdev | I was thinking manila type deployment - where a BM is running a shared file system | 16:17 |
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| sambetts | So the use cases I've drawn out in my examples are: | 16:17 |
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| sambetts | A user who hasn't precreated any neutron ports | 16:18 |
| sambetts | a user who has precreated neutron ports | 16:18 |
| sambetts | a user who has precreated neutron trunks | 16:18 |
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| sambetts | If your talking about an instance plumbed into a shared network by an admin, so that multiple tenants can access it, then it could be any one of those cases depending on the workflow of the admin | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | but, how does user know for what use case he needs to create ports? | 16:19 |
| sambetts | thats down to the user to decide | 16:19 |
| sambetts | just as it would be today with a VM | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | yes, so, you just pointed a use-case, where the admin has to create the trunk port - | 16:21 |
| jroll | not "has to", "chooses to" | 16:21 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll: so, that is what I think is bit fuzzy, and we should clarify (in spec or documentation) - when it is required and when it is done automatically | 16:23 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: it should never be required | 16:23 |
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| jroll | all you should need to boot a server is a network | 16:23 |
| jroll | no matter what the server is | 16:23 |
| jroll | (virt, bare metal) | 16:23 |
| jroll | (one nic, twenty nics) | 16:23 |
| Sukhdev | so, you are saying boot a server to a network and ironic driver will figure out, it is trunk port, sub-port, etc... | 16:25 |
| jroll | now, if folks want to fancy things moving ports or trunks or whatever around, we should try to enable that | 16:25 |
| jroll | yes, ironic/nova will create ports and such as needed | 16:25 |
| sambetts | Example case 1: nova boot --nic net-id=<uuid> | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | OK then it makes sense - | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : somehow I got the sense by reading spec that some times admins do things and other times it is done automatically | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev | what jroll said makes sense | 16:27 |
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| sambetts | might just a be poor explaination by myself XD jroll could you do a proof read? | 16:27 |
| jroll | sure | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev | Lets circle back when others have chance to review the spec as well | 16:28 |
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| sambetts | :) cool | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev | Moving on.... | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Critical patches and merge plan | 16:28 |
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| Sukhdev | I saw Ruby's comment on one of the patches they are (at least one) is being broken down | 16:29 |
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| Sukhdev | in response to hshiina's comment | 16:29 |
| hshiina | yes | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | anybody has any update on this? | 16:30 |
| Sukhdev | We came this far and now we seem to be stuck :-):-) | 16:30 |
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| sambetts | So I added a point to the Agenda that could also cause the portgroups stuff to be stuck for a little while longer while we do some digging, sorry :( | 16:31 |
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| Sukhdev | I guess Vasyl is working on that patch | 16:33 |
| sambetts | Seems like my problems with the network driver data migrations have been addressed, I'd like devananda to maybe try it out for us as I know he was running dhcp_provider=None | 16:33 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : I tricked you by switching the order :-) | 16:33 |
| sambetts | Sukhdev: ;) | 16:33 |
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| Sukhdev | So, I take it we do not have any update and I do not see vasyl here - | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | so, lets go back to sambetts's agenda item then | 16:35 |
| vsaienko1 | o/ | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | vsaienko1: thanks for joining - any update? | 16:36 |
| vsaienko1 | Sukhdev, I'm sorry for late, yes I'm splitting network driver's patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285852 | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev | vsaienko1 : cool - thanks for jumping in to help out | 16:38 |
| vsaienko1 | Sukhdev, not sure if all knows but we had a green job for multitenancy at the gates | 16:38 |
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| sambetts | \o/ | 16:39 |
| vsaienko1 | but it was some time ago https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296432 | 16:39 |
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| vsaienko1 | that is all from side | 16:40 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll : we are OK with the other three patches as-is - just the one needs to be broken up, right? | 16:40 |
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| jroll | Sukhdev: the two big ones | 16:41 |
| jroll | er | 16:41 |
| * jroll wonders how big the portgroup patch is | 16:41 | |
| jroll | yeah, I think just the one is fine | 16:41 |
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| Sukhdev | cool - thanks | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | vsaienko1 : thanks for the update | 16:42 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Rumor about boding support for virt | 16:43 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts: want to elaborate? | 16:43 |
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| sambetts | Ok, so basically johnthetubaguy was discussing with us in the ironic channel that there seems to be work going on to support bonding for all instances, including virt | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | hmm...any pointers, links to work? | 16:45 |
| sambetts | to support bonding for all instances we should model it in neutron instead of doing it behind neutrons back | 16:45 |
| sambetts | Sukhdev: this was the spec he'd pointed us at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182242/14/specs/newton/approved/user-controlled-sriov-ports-allocation.rst | 16:45 |
| sambetts | although I'm not sure :/ | 16:45 |
| sambetts | If we decide to model bonding in neutron, there is no longer a need to model it in ironic \ | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev | oh - I see this is nova spec | 16:46 |
| sambetts | therefore if that is truely going to happen I think we should hold of merging the portgroups API, as it'll be made redundant | 16:46 |
| sambetts | and be hard to remove after | 16:46 |
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| Sukhdev | Let me follow up in the neutron side and dig up and see if anything like this is happening and more importantly in what time frame | 16:47 |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182242/14/specs/newton/approved/user-controlled-sriov-ports-allocation.rst | 16:47 |
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| Sukhdev | #action: Sukhdev to check on the neutron side if there is any work going on to support bonding | 16:48 |
| Sukhdev | anything else on this? | 16:48 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Ironic interface attach API | 16:49 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts: back to you | 16:49 |
| sambetts | Me again :D | 16:49 |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1582188 | 16:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1582188 in Ironic "[RFE] Add interface attach API" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sam Betts (sambetts) | 16:49 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : well that is the price of putting it on the agenda, dear :-):-) | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts: I have not looked at it - what is this about? | 16:51 |
| sambetts | Ok, so basicly we'll soon have pluggable network interfaces in Ironic, this is all well and good, except that we can't modify the port mapping process without writing a new nova virt driver, and this process also might be different per network interface, which can then be different per node | 16:51 |
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| sambetts | as an example my out of tree network driver, did port mapping a lttle differently to support our use case and because of that I had to have a nova driver too | 16:52 |
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| sambetts | this RFE proposes moving the port mapping/interface attachment logic out of the virt driver down into Ironic into the network interface, under an API | 16:53 |
| sambetts | which could be called by nova at the point we do the port-update with vif_port_ids today | 16:53 |
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| sambetts | this hides the implementation details from the nova virt driver, and would allow us to iterate faster too, e.g. to support my VLAN spec we wouldn't need to to modify the plug_vifs logic, only the network interface | 16:54 |
| Sukhdev | Oh I see - in the very early days when we kicked off ironic-neutron integration work, that was one of the things we considered, but, we chose not to follow that path | 16:56 |
| Sukhdev | this is an interesting idea though | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | Let circle back on this in next meeting | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev | hshiina had a item on the agenda, we could not get to it last week as well | 16:58 |
| hshiina | we need to get nova patches merged after ironic and ironc client pathces. | 16:58 |
| hshiina | nova's deadline is earlier than usual. | 16:59 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll is usually on top of nova side | 16:59 |
| hshiina | i listed nova's patch for confirmation. | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | I am so sorry - I kind of lost track and we are out of time again | 17:00 |
| hshiina | are these 2 pathces all? | 17:01 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll : can you please look at this offline? | 17:01 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: look at what | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | jroll : two patches that hshiina is referring to on the agenda | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | sorry - folks we are out of time - have to clear the channel | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | thanks for attending the meeting | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 17:02 |
| hshiina | ok. thanks. | 17:02 |
| sambetts | Thanks for giving me the time | 17:02 |
| sambetts | :) | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 17:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 16 17:02:31 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-05-16-16.00.html | 17:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-05-16-16.00.txt | 17:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-05-16-16.00.log.html | 17:02 |
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