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| nikhil | Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting, dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat | 13:58 |
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| hemanthm | o/ | 13:58 |
| tsymanczyk | \o | 13:58 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 13:58 |
| abhishek | o/ | 13:58 |
| dshakhray | o/ | 13:58 |
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| kairat | o/ | 13:59 |
| wxy | o/ | 13:59 |
| rosmaita | i think we are running early! | 13:59 |
| mfedosin | o/ | 13:59 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: 1min to go | 13:59 |
| tsymanczyk | too exciting to wait | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | :) | 14:00 |
| nikhil | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 19 14:00:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| nikhil | #topic agenda | 14:00 |
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| nikhil | Welcome everyone | 14:00 |
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| bpoulos | o/ | 14:00 |
| nikhil | we've a small agenda today | 14:00 |
| sudipto | o/ | 14:00 |
| nikhil | ohai bpoulos | 14:00 |
| nikhil | welcome back | 14:00 |
| bpoulos | hello, thanks! | 14:00 |
| nikhil | congrats!!! | 14:00 |
| jokke_ | bpoulos: \o | 14:00 |
| bpoulos | thank you :) | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:01 |
| nikhil | how's your 'boy?'? | 14:01 |
| jokke_ | bpoulos: all good? | 14:01 |
| bpoulos | doing very well, 15 pounds already! | 14:01 |
| mfedosin | how did you call him? | 14:01 |
| tsymanczyk | mazel tov | 14:01 |
| bpoulos | Gregory | 14:01 |
| nikhil | nice! good news indeed :) | 14:01 |
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| nikhil | so, here's the agenda for today: | 14:02 |
| nikhil | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:02 |
| nikhil | Please be mindful of the dates when you propose the agenda | 14:02 |
| nikhil | I usually keep next week's agenda open in case this week's full | 14:03 |
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| nikhil | We have decided to limit the agenda to only 4 items per meeting (besides updates and open discussion) | 14:03 |
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| nikhil | #action nikhil update the etherpad with more info on adding items to agenda | 14:03 |
| nikhil | Let's get started. | 14:04 |
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| nikhil | #topic Updates | 14:04 |
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| nikhil | #info Glare updates ( mfedosin ) | 14:04 |
| mfedosin | hello again | 14:04 |
| mfedosin | two main things | 14:04 |
| mfedosin | 1. api spec | 14:05 |
| mfedosin | I think we are ready to public discussion | 14:05 |
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| mfedosin | for that reason I'll update the spec, add API examples that Darja made and upload new PS today | 14:05 |
| mfedosin | then I'm going to send a message to ML and ask for review | 14:06 |
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| mfedosin | I hope it will be done early tomorrow | 14:06 |
| mfedosin | 2. Glare code | 14:06 |
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| mfedosin | Kairat and Darja are fixing bugs | 14:07 |
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| mfedosin | 6 of known 7 are done | 14:07 |
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| mfedosin | that means that code is pretty stable at the moment | 14:07 |
| jokke_ | nice | 14:07 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: this is good news indeed | 14:07 |
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| nikhil | we're getting to discussion early in cycle | 14:07 |
| mfedosin | we still have to add several features | 14:08 |
| nikhil | ok | 14:08 |
| mfedosin | but my proposal, that in early June we'll start to prepare the code for merging | 14:08 |
| mfedosin | kairat: dshakhray correct me if I'm wrong | 14:08 |
| kairat | I hope so | 14:09 |
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| mfedosin | but now, we need to concentrate on the spec | 14:09 |
| mfedosin | if API is agreed, then we can start implementing glare client | 14:10 |
| mfedosin | I think this is all the updates at the moment. | 14:11 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: I think we need next meeting to decide on the features later (including more code like client). we agreed to a skeleton patch first, just to make sure that the team can focus on the bare minimum code. | 14:11 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: and on the note to ML please link all tags that were interested. we need everyone on same page when it comes to the API! | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | yeah, sure | 14:11 |
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| nikhil | #info Nova v1, v2 ( mfedosin , sudipto ) | 14:11 |
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| nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301741/ | 14:11 |
| mfedosin | hooray | 14:12 |
| nikhil | SO, great news | 14:12 |
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| mfedosin | thanks sudipto and flaper87 | 14:12 |
| nikhil | we have 3 different people +2 on it already | 14:12 |
| nikhil | great job all three! | 14:12 |
| sudipto | cheers mfedosin nikhil | 14:13 |
| nikhil | (Acutally let's inclde Eddie on this good news too) | 14:13 |
| nikhil | SO, what remains? | 14:13 |
| nikhil | sudipto: mfedosin ? | 14:13 |
| mfedosin | emm, I think we need some clarification about v2 gate | 14:13 |
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| nikhil | mfedosin: I can update that later | 14:14 |
| sudipto | from the coding front, i think we are sorted. | 14:14 |
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| nikhil | there was a mention about some code changes required in sudipto 's later spec patches? | 14:14 |
| mfedosin | because it blocks me from writing the code | 14:14 |
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| nikhil | k | 14:15 |
| mfedosin | also I updated sudipto's second patch | 14:15 |
| mfedosin | and fixed unit tests there | 14:15 |
| mfedosin | will upload new PS in a moment | 14:15 |
| nikhil | thx mfedosin | 14:15 |
| mfedosin | also, as I mentioned, code is done | 14:16 |
| mfedosin | it's WIP but anyway | 14:16 |
| mfedosin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316440/ | 14:16 |
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| mfedosin | unit tests will be fixed in sudipto's commit | 14:17 |
| sudipto | yeah | 14:17 |
| sudipto | So i am in sync with mfedosin and we should be able to put out all the reviews shortly after the spec is merged. | 14:17 |
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| mfedosin | the main point is that all tempests are good :) | 14:18 |
| mfedosin | sudipto: even earlier :) | 14:18 |
| sudipto | mfedosin, sure. Also I will work on the driver changes - that still use v1 - like i discussed with you. | 14:18 |
| sudipto | mfedosin, i think we might be able to merge the spec today :) | 14:19 |
| nikhil | ok, great stuff. | 14:19 |
| mfedosin | what driver again? | 14:19 |
| mfedosin | ah | 14:19 |
| nikhil | Let's focus on the spec first | 14:19 |
| mfedosin | now spec is not our job | 14:19 |
| mfedosin | let's nova team review and merge it :) | 14:20 |
| nikhil | That should be our priority, but looks good for now. Just keep an eye out for any last minute reviews :/ | 14:20 |
| mfedosin | *let | 14:20 |
| sudipto | nikhil, sure. | 14:20 |
| mfedosin | also I have related question... | 14:20 |
| mfedosin | but let's postpone it to Open Discussion | 14:20 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: this is openstack, we can only talk about merge only after the release. there are no guarantees until then. | 14:20 |
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| nikhil | let | 14:21 |
| nikhil | let's move on, we need to have this detailed sync 30 mins before artifacts meeting on monday | 14:21 |
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| nikhil | let's keep our thursday updates small | 14:21 |
| nikhil | Thanks much sudipto mfedosin | 14:21 |
| nikhil | #info Releases | 14:21 |
| nikhil | So, we're approaching newton-1 | 14:22 |
| nikhil | newton-1 Thursday June 2: | 14:22 |
| mfedosin | oh... so fast | 14:22 |
| nikhil | http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 14:22 |
| nikhil | yes, so just one more week and the week after we will tag newton 1 | 14:22 |
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| nikhil | although the release page says thursdays are generally the dates when the release is cut | 14:23 |
| nikhil | let | 14:23 |
| nikhil | let's make sure that we get things done by Monday so that release team can cut the same on Tuesdays | 14:23 |
| nikhil | That means all reviews to be done by Friday and keeping Monday for gate, last minute additions, etc. reviews | 14:24 |
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| nikhil | Thanks! | 14:24 |
| nikhil | #info Announcements | 14:24 |
| nikhil | 1) Should we cancle the mid-cycle or there's last minute interest developed? Last time I checked there were 4 who were almost confirmed. | 14:24 |
| * nikhil waits for feedback | 14:25 | |
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| tsymanczyk | things have changed slightly here. i don't know that i could get approved anymore. | 14:25 |
| mfedosin | unfortunately I won't be able to come :( | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | same here | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | by "cancel" i assume you mean "make into a virtual meeting" ? | 14:26 |
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| mfedosin | right | 14:26 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: surely. but the plan is to have regular (~monthly) virtual meetings so, not exactly substitution. | 14:26 |
| nikhil | I was going to propose a virtual one right after newton 1 | 14:27 |
| nikhil | and the one after can be around our midcycle dates. | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | works for me | 14:27 |
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| kairat | +1 to virtual only | 14:27 |
| nikhil | Atleast for a few things, so that we're not proposing another 4 hour slots everytime. | 14:28 |
| nikhil | ok, thanks all. | 14:28 |
| nikhil | #agreed Glance midcycle meetup to be cancelled cc/ sabari | 14:28 |
| nikhil | #info Priorities | 14:28 |
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| nikhil | I started a WIP review last week but due to ML discussions it is in delay. | 14:29 |
| nikhil | here's a patch up: | 14:29 |
| nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315752/ | 14:29 |
| nikhil | I've also sent announcement email on the priorities and processes. Will be taking that into account before this is final. | 14:30 |
| nikhil | Good points brought up by a few people over last few weeks, something that's been communicated in different threads: | 14:30 |
| nikhil | Side-priorities (in Mitaka it was called priorities w/o clear plan) | 14:30 |
| mfedosin | nikhil: just curious about Glare there | 14:30 |
| nikhil | Elements that will need more baby sitting, are non-controvertial and less research or dependencies. | 14:31 |
| nikhil | They should be considered side-priorities. | 14:31 |
| mfedosin | I think we have to say several words about artifacts in this doc, right? | 14:31 |
| nikhil | Currently, we've Glare, registry and v1 deprecation and part of categorization effort. Also, we should include lite-specs. | 14:31 |
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| nikhil | mfedosin: correct, this is all as per what we agreed at the summit. | 14:32 |
| hemanthm | can we document them as well? | 14:32 |
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| nikhil | mfedosin: the more info we can provide the better it will be. | 14:32 |
| mfedosin | also I think we must include sudipto in Nova v1-v2 work | 14:33 |
| nikhil | hemanthm: yes, I plan to include as much info on that review. you can provide feedback on gerrit while we work on them collaboratively. BUT we need to stay very close to what has been agreed at the summit. | 14:33 |
| mfedosin | nikhil: currently only me, you and flaper87 are listed there | 14:33 |
| hemanthm | nikhil: +1 | 14:33 |
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| nikhil | mfedosin: noted | 14:33 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: you not giving me any cake for all my reviews on your spec ;-) (jk) | 14:34 |
| nikhil | anything else? | 14:34 |
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| nikhil | moving on, then.. | 14:34 |
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| nikhil | #topic Lite-specs process finalizing | 14:34 |
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| mfedosin | nick-ma: in Barselona | 14:34 |
| mfedosin | *nikhil: | 14:34 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: ? | 14:35 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: if not on lite-specs we need to discuss later. running short of time atm. | 14:35 |
| sudipto | nikhil, guess he means the cake. :) | 14:36 |
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| nikhil | sudipto: mfedosin : gotcha. I am looking forward to it. you said it now ;) | 14:36 |
| mfedosin | sudipto: correct :) | 14:36 |
| nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315339/ | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | there was lots of good comments in the review for lite-spec doc change | 14:36 |
| nikhil | yes, thanks! | 14:36 |
| nikhil | So, we need the following: | 14:37 |
| nikhil | 1) use-case, very good problem statement | 14:37 |
| nikhil | 2) all the affected domains (notification, security, operator, end user, etc) | 14:37 |
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| jokke_ | if we're using the same template, it's quite self explanary | 14:37 |
| nikhil | 3) scope of the implementation, hurdles or any workarounds that we need to do | 14:37 |
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| nikhil | As of current proposal by flaper87 , there's no enforcement on using that template. | 14:38 |
| hemanthm | I think that was implied | 14:38 |
| nikhil | there's loose coupling with what we need and what's expected. | 14:38 |
| hemanthm | use the template for the content on the commit message | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | I did read that ... I'd like to see us enforcing renos and proper commit messages before we agree using them as lite-specs | 14:39 |
| nikhil | #action all interested on lite-specs: please explicitly state what your thougts are on the proposal(s) | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | no-one is writing them currently | 14:39 |
| nikhil | ok, good point jokke_ | 14:39 |
| kairat | ok | 14:40 |
| kairat | I am also in favor of reno and cm only | 14:40 |
| nikhil | let's make sure that we get that in the reviewer's guide | 14:40 |
| kairat | we don't have enough review bandwidth for specs | 14:40 |
| nikhil | I don't mind as long as: | 14:40 |
| hemanthm | although I'm not sure if we can drop indexing like flaper87 mentioned in his latest comment | 14:40 |
| nikhil | 1) they are discoverable | 14:40 |
| nikhil | 2) they can be used for referencing outside of glance or code | 14:40 |
| nikhil | 3) people won't have to click on 15 pages underneath the doc page to look for them | 14:41 |
| nikhil | we're getting a lot of heat on documentation so we need to ensure we increase docs at least two folds | 14:41 |
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| nikhil | kairat: having them in specs makes us aware of the review bandwidth we can commit to them in a cycle | 14:42 |
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| nikhil | the point I'm tring to make is we get specs and lite-specs done first in cycle (before 15th June on soft freeze and early July on hard freeze) | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | that's the second problem there ... the drivers to move lite-specs to the glance-specs repo were following: 1) no-one is writing the renos 2) we need to document out new features at least somewhere where they are all easily findable 3) amendments to the old specs like Niall's deactivation stuff | 14:42 |
| nikhil | that way we know what's in the pipe and what we can actually tackle | 14:42 |
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| jokke_ | yes bandwith planning was the number 4 | 14:43 |
| hemanthm | with what flaper87 proposed, we don't have to do spec reviews separately for lite-specs | 14:43 |
| kairat | Hmm, I am not sure review for specs will give us enough info about planning | 14:43 |
| kairat | because usually it just doubles review time for me | 14:44 |
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| kairat | will describe that in spec | 14:44 |
| nikhil | but we don't know how much we need to review and how much we can ignore in a cycle | 14:44 |
| nikhil | I don't want proposers thinking and pushing before newton-3 that it's possible for them to propose something and get it merged | 14:44 |
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| nikhil | we need a way to avoid many behavior changes in one cycle | 14:44 |
| nikhil | and we need to do that early | 14:45 |
| hemanthm | +1 | 14:45 |
| nikhil | ok, we can keep this discussion going on the review | 14:45 |
| hemanthm | I guess having the lite-spec and code in the same commit doesn't help with planning much | 14:45 |
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| nikhil | right | 14:45 |
| nikhil | So, there are good points raised here, please make sure you jot them down completely on that review patch. | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | sure I retype my points there as gerrit was so nice and wiped my last round earlier today | 14:45 |
| nikhil | (please do not be implicit) | 14:46 |
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| nikhil | ok, moving on for now. | 14:46 |
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| nikhil | #topic Codec can't encode characters | 14:47 |
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| nikhil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316054/ | 14:47 |
| nikhil | dshakhray: floor is yours | 14:47 |
| mfedosin | okay, it's dshakhray's fix | 14:47 |
| mfedosin | I thinks she wants you to review the code | 14:47 |
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| nikhil | k | 14:48 |
| dshakhray | yes, only review) | 14:48 |
| mfedosin | headers were encoded in HTTPclient | 14:48 |
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| mfedosin | but when we started to use SessionClient they are not | 14:49 |
| mfedosin | so Darja fixed it :) | 14:49 |
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| nikhil | cool | 14:49 |
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| nikhil | let's get that reviewed then | 14:49 |
| nikhil | #topic open discussion | 14:50 |
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| nikhil | there's another request for review here: | 14:50 |
| mfedosin | I wanted to ask one thing... | 14:50 |
| nikhil | Return request-id to caller | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | dshakhray: change itself seems to make sense. Please be bit more verbal on the commit message. Currently the commit message and the change are not telling the same story | 14:50 |
| abhishek | hi, need reviews for return request id to caller, have proposed two solutions, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261288/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316052/ | 14:50 |
| nikhil | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261288/ | 14:50 |
| nikhil | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316052/ | 14:50 |
| abhishek | 2nd one is proposed by Brant and Cao, please provide your feedback on it as per time permits | 14:51 |
| nikhil | +1 to jokke_ on commit message | 14:51 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: please go ahead | 14:51 |
| mfedosin | in Nova for some deployments we have to enable show_multiple_locations | 14:51 |
| mfedosin | and if you read message from Heat in ML they always need it to use Glance v2 | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | abhishek: do those overlap with 7150ceee1ac72361f75b3a4187e10a884166870d that I noticed had been merged lately | 14:52 |
| nikhil | well | 14:52 |
| mfedosin | but this option has a vulnerability | 14:52 |
| abhishek | jokke_: let me have a look | 14:52 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: for long term this is what we want to do https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313936/ | 14:53 |
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| mfedosin | so, I propose to change image_location_quota default from 10 to 1 | 14:53 |
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| mfedosin | nikhil: doesn't matter | 14:53 |
| nikhil | that does reduce it a bit | 14:54 |
| mfedosin | for Heat and Nova we have to allow to set custom locations for all users | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | that is really really problematic | 14:54 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: I don't know why we need to allow for all users | 14:54 |
| kairat | mfedosin, it may break some templates after glance upgrade | 14:54 |
| abhishek | jokke_: could you please provide a link | 14:54 |
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| mfedosin | nikhil: to make snapshot, for example | 14:55 |
| jokke_ | the whole locations code is really really problematic as long as we do not have service tokens | 14:55 |
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| mfedosin | if this option is disabled... | 14:55 |
| jokke_ | abhishek: I don't have one ... that's commit id from glanceclient git log | 14:55 |
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| abhishek | jokke: ok I will have a look and let you know | 14:56 |
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| wxy | Here is one situation: Heat want to use Glance v2 instead of v1. But we can't set locations as v1 did by default. | 14:56 |
| mfedosin | this won't work https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/824c3706a3ea691781f4fcc4453881517a9e1c55/nova/virt/libvirt/imagebackend.py#L967 | 14:56 |
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| mfedosin | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/824c3706a3ea691781f4fcc4453881517a9e1c55/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L1517 | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | mfedosin: are you saying that currently every deployment is changing that locations option on? | 14:56 |
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| nikhil | mfedosin: I thought that driver was already using v2 and image locations ? | 14:56 |
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| kairat | yes, because it uses v1 | 14:56 |
| mfedosin | no, it uses v1 to set location | 14:57 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: and our scope should not increase beyond that driver | 14:57 |
| kairat | wxy, thanks, i forgot about that | 14:57 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: nova folks need to be more aware apparently | 14:57 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: ok | 14:57 |
| wxy | Heat team want to upgrade to v2 | 14:57 |
| nikhil | wxy: I am aware of that | 14:57 |
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| nikhil | wxy: and I have responded very clearly. but no response back ! | 14:57 |
| jokke_ | nikhil: ++ | 14:58 |
| mfedosin | so, reducing this parameter from 10 to 1 will prevent a lot of bad issues | 14:58 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: so for the 'lot' part, please start a email thread with the glance-core-sec for now | 14:58 |
| nikhil | mfedosin: we can then involve people who have more to say | 14:58 |
| mfedosin | ikay | 14:59 |
| mfedosin | okay | 14:59 |
| nikhil | rosmaita: you got a min | 14:59 |
| jokke_ | 2min | 14:59 |
| jokke_ | 1 left :P | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | more like 30 sec | 14:59 |
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| nikhil | :) | 14:59 |
| jokke_ | type faster | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | have a nice day, everyone | 14:59 |
| nikhil | TravT: is generous in not kicking us out :) | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | i will bug people individually in glance channel | 14:59 |
| nikhil | ok | 15:00 |
| TravT | :) | 15:00 |
| nikhil | Thanks all! | 15:00 |
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| mfedosin | thanks | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | thanks all | 15:00 |
| nikhil | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 19 15:00:20 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-05-19-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-05-19-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-05-19-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| rosmaita | TravT: sorry about the -2 on your https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318365/, but i need some negative grades for my stats | 15:01 |
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| TravT | lol | 15:01 |
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| TravT | #startmeeting openstack search | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 19 15:01:39 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TravT. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_search' | 15:01 |
| TravT | rosmaita: thanks for looking at it with a close eye! | 15:02 |
| rosmaita | np | 15:02 |
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| sjmc7 | ello | 15:02 |
| TravT | o/ | 15:02 |
| lei-zh | o/ | 15:02 |
| TravT | sjmc7 i think Rick-A was supposed to be back today | 15:03 |
| TravT | but he's not showing online yet | 15:03 |
| TravT | anyway, let's get going. maybe yingjun is sleeping tonight.... :)( | 15:04 |
| TravT | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda | 15:04 |
| TravT | #topic Lei Zhang core nomination | 15:04 |
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| TravT | FYI http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/095270.html | 15:04 |
| TravT | lei-zh has been doing a great job, i think. | 15:05 |
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| TravT | should be able to finalize by end of day tomorrow or Monday. | 15:05 |
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| TravT | #topic Backport 0.2.1 | 15:06 |
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| TravT | we only have a couple more candidates for backport which are already landed on master | 15:06 |
| TravT | sjmc7: can you propose this for backport? | 15:07 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311834/ | 15:07 |
| sjmc7 | yes indeedy | 15:07 |
| TravT | and then i was wondering if we should go ahead and backport this one from lei-zh | 15:07 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309290 | 15:07 |
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| TravT | hi yingjun | 15:07 |
| sjmc7 | i don’t think we need to do that one | 15:07 |
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| david-lyle | o/ | 15:07 |
| TravT | hi david-lyle | 15:08 |
| sjmc7 | it’s not clear when they’ll actually remove the ‘count’ search type | 15:08 |
| jaimguer | o/ | 15:08 |
| TravT | hi jaimguer | 15:08 |
| lei-zh | it's deprecated in 2.x, but don't know when it doesn't work | 15:08 |
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| sjmc7 | i suspect it’ll be a long time; it would make sense that they could translate that into a size=0 search internally rather than cause client issues | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | otoh it’s not a huge patch to backport | 15:09 |
| TravT | it is rather small. | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | i’m just wary of backporting too much because we start getting conflicts | 15:09 |
| sjmc7 | but i could go either way | 15:10 |
| TravT | so, how about if it is a clean cherry pick we backport it? | 15:10 |
| TravT | otherwise we don't? | 15:10 |
| TravT | fyi yingjun talking about this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309290 | 15:10 |
| yingjun | TravT, thanks | 15:10 |
| sjmc7 | it makes it more likely to get conflicts down the line too. i guess it’s ok to pick it | 15:11 |
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| TravT | okay, well, if we do backport it, i'll have to add to the release notes | 15:12 |
| TravT | i went ahead and posted a release notes patch on master (which we'll backport) that has notes for all the fixes since mitaka released | 15:12 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318365/ | 15:12 |
| TravT | so, let's try to get that done by end of day tomorrow. | 15:13 |
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| david-lyle | what's the max e-s supported in 0.2.1 ? | 15:13 |
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| TravT | well, originally we were thinking 1.x, but ES changed their support for 1.x | 15:14 |
| david-lyle | but at release time, it was 1.x, correct? | 15:14 |
| TravT | yes. | 15:14 |
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| TravT | by the time some deployers get to deploying mitaka, es 1.x will be problematic for some deployers | 15:15 |
| david-lyle | just wondering why 2.0 support in a branch that won't upgrade E-S versions | 15:15 |
| sjmc7 | and this option is still supported, just deprecated | 15:15 |
| david-lyle | seemingly searchlight and E-S will upgrade in tandem | 15:15 |
| TravT | the changes for es 2.x were pretty minor for us | 15:15 |
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| david-lyle | right, but backporting them seems unnecessary | 15:16 |
| TravT | well, for example david-lyle HP's deployment of mitaka will only include es 2.x | 15:16 |
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| david-lyle | just trying to apply stable policy | 15:16 |
| david-lyle | or analyze based on that criteria | 15:16 |
| TravT | well, i was looking at that | 15:17 |
| TravT | http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html | 15:17 |
| sjmc7 | we won’t be using bleeding edge ES though | 15:17 |
| TravT | i believe all these patches apply while in phase 1 | 15:17 |
| sjmc7 | it seems you’re set on backporting it, and i’m ok with that, dunno if we need to argue it too much | 15:17 |
| TravT | sjmc7: this particular patch i don't care too much | 15:17 |
| TravT | it was the others which actually prevent usage of es 2.x | 15:18 |
| sjmc7 | e-s is a bit weird in that it’s not goign to be deployed via system packages like mysql would be | 15:18 |
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| sjmc7 | yeah, those i am definitely onboard with | 15:18 |
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| TravT | david-lyle: hp had to make a decision to upgrade to es 2.x for mitaka late in the game because of es support contracts going away for 1.x | 15:19 |
| david-lyle | I'm not trying to be difficult, but unless > 2.0 is supported in 0.2.1, I don't see the justification to backport | 15:19 |
| sjmc7 | it is supported in a sense that we decided not to exclude it | 15:19 |
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| sjmc7 | since it had been released for over 6 months | 15:20 |
| david-lyle | sjmc7: by >2.0 I guess I'm meaning >=3.0 when the deprecation is removed | 15:20 |
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| TravT | ahh, on this patch. | 15:20 |
| sjmc7 | that might be the case, yeah - they don’t specify | 15:20 |
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| david-lyle | I'll drop it, I know the stable team is trying to be more vigilant on what goes in to stable | 15:21 |
| TravT | okay, well, my arm is twisted on this patch | 15:21 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309290 | 15:21 |
| TravT | we don't need to backport that one specifically | 15:21 |
| sjmc7 | ok. other one’s got a backport review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318729/ | 15:21 |
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| TravT | so a few other items to discuss today | 15:22 |
| TravT | upcoming changes to glance that will affect the searchlight plugin | 15:23 |
| TravT | #topic upcoming changes to glance that will affect the searchlight plugin | 15:23 |
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| TravT | rosmaita put up a few BPs | 15:23 |
| TravT | i just wanted to check with people on the priority we should put on them | 15:23 |
| TravT | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/glance-visibility-changes-shared-community | 15:23 |
| TravT | this seems like we should approve it and should consider giving it a high | 15:24 |
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| TravT | thoughts? | 15:25 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, agree | 15:25 |
| rosmaita | spec isn't approved yet, but there's a dev dedicated to it, so the implementation should land | 15:25 |
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| rosmaita | but you won't have aything to work with for a while | 15:26 |
| TravT | yeah, we might need to mark it as blocked | 15:26 |
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| TravT | so approve, but blocked until glance further along | 15:26 |
| sjmc7 | ok. so keep an eye on it. if we don’t support it, worst case is some stuff is invisible when it shouldn’t be? | 15:26 |
| TravT | seems that way | 15:27 |
| rosmaita | my real motivation was to get y'all to look at the spec in case there's anything bad for searchlight in the design | 15:27 |
| sjmc7 | i don’t think so, long as we continue to get notifications on changes | 15:27 |
| rosmaita | ok | 15:27 |
| sjmc7 | little bit curious how it’ll actually work :) | 15:27 |
| TravT | okay, the other one is this one: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/searchlight/+spec/glance-visibility-changes-inherited | 15:28 |
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| rosmaita | that's fairly speculative at this point | 15:29 |
| sjmc7 | your favourite subject, david-lyle - hierarchial tenants! | 15:29 |
| rosmaita | it's another heads-up to make sure what glance does is searchlight-friendly | 15:29 |
| rosmaita | although, i don't think there's a detailed proposal yet | 15:29 |
| TravT | david-lyle probably goes home and writes songs about it, he loves it so much | 15:29 |
| sjmc7 | i think the multitenant stuff may be a bit wait-and-see | 15:30 |
| TravT | ;) | 15:30 |
| TravT | yeah, we can leave it as is for now | 15:30 |
| sjmc7 | it’s definitely gonna cause us some problems | 15:30 |
| sjmc7 | though i am hoping the request context will have the parent tenant id as well | 15:30 |
| david-lyle | TravT: :) | 15:30 |
| TravT | i suppose we really should look over that spec | 15:30 |
| sjmc7 | which just leaves the problem of determining conceptually who should be able to see a resource (like extra ‘visibility’ flags) | 15:31 |
| TravT | rosmaita can you let us know if it looks like it is going to make it into newton for glance? | 15:31 |
| rosmaita | yes, i will keep you posted | 15:31 |
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| TravT | i'll add myself as reviewer on the spec, but i have so many review notifications come in that it is easy to miss some | 15:32 |
| david-lyle | rosmaita: no assignee | 15:32 |
| david-lyle | the odds seem long | 15:32 |
| rosmaita | except the PTL is a fan | 15:32 |
| david-lyle | is he doing it? | 15:33 |
| rosmaita | not sure | 15:33 |
| yingjun | We were very interested in the hierarchial tenants thing here in our company year ago. | 15:33 |
| david-lyle | won't go far without an implementer | 15:33 |
| rosmaita | but yeah, there is already a lot of stuff happening in newton for glance | 15:33 |
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| david-lyle | I think HMT is going to be a 30' onion | 15:33 |
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| rosmaita | i am not familiar with that expression | 15:34 |
| david-lyle | heck we couldn't even successfully use domains, but now we're going to handle deeper hierarchy | 15:34 |
| david-lyle | rosmaita: large onion | 15:34 |
| david-lyle | so many layers to uncover | 15:35 |
| TravT | well, i'll just mark it as drafting for now | 15:35 |
| TravT | but not prioritize it | 15:35 |
| TravT | let's move along a bit if we can | 15:35 |
| * david-lyle remains a sceptic | 15:35 | |
| TravT | #topic nova notifications updates | 15:35 |
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| TravT | FYI, went to the versioning meeting yesterday | 15:36 |
| TravT | comments from meeting were reflected on bottom of spec | 15:36 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286675/ | 15:36 |
| TravT | but basically | 15:36 |
| TravT | with 1.0 of versioned notifications they are simply looking to get current notification data in | 15:36 |
| TravT | so there is compatibility of payload from current notifications to versioned notifications on existing types | 15:37 |
| TravT | from there, they'd like feedback on what additional data they should add after 1.0 for instances | 15:37 |
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| sjmc7 | the comments from most people on there don’t leave me tremendously hopeful we’ll get what we want; consensus seems to be they want to reduce rather than add, and not much appetite for standardizing between notificaitons and the API | 15:37 |
| TravT | yeah, they said this is for technical reasons | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | i guess we’ll see. hopefully they can implement it reasonably quickly | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | and then we’ll find out what direction they take it | 15:38 |
| TravT | and to try to get 1.0 versioned notifications out in newton. | 15:38 |
| TravT | for net new notifications, not so problematic | 15:38 |
| TravT | so, we'll keep watching there... | 15:39 |
| TravT | but versioned notifications won't be a panacea in newton | 15:39 |
| TravT | which is why we all previously decided to try to reduce callbacks | 15:39 |
| TravT | sjmc7 started on that | 15:39 |
| sjmc7 | yes. my patch is hideous! | 15:39 |
| TravT | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317100/ | 15:39 |
| sjmc7 | i will tidy it up some, but the overall hideousness will remain | 15:40 |
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| sjmc7 | the primary option to reduce hideousness is not trying to keep track of status changes | 15:40 |
| TravT | sjmc7, i think your logic works | 15:41 |
| TravT | it is just hard to follow... | 15:41 |
| TravT | because nova notification flow is hard to follow | 15:41 |
| sjmc7 | it really is. i’ll tidy it up; it kind of evolved as i went though it | 15:41 |
| sjmc7 | the basic issue is that there can be conditions under which all the notifications arrive at once, which means requiring lots of special case conditions | 15:42 |
| TravT | turning on the option to only have a single listener thread and using pycharm debugger really helped with that one. | 15:42 |
| sjmc7 | if we do that in production it becomes much simpler :) | 15:42 |
| TravT | hahahaha | 15:42 |
| TravT | anyway, anything else to say or any questions from anybody or can we move on. just wanted to give status update | 15:43 |
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| TravT | #topic use pools | 15:44 |
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| TravT | https://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight/+bug/1583215 | 15:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1583215 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "Enable oslo.messaging pools support " [Medium,New] - Assigned to Steve McLellan (sjmc7) | 15:44 |
| sjmc7 | aside from the 2 hours i spent tracking down a configuration issue with cinder, it looks like pools work and make deployment much easier; no need for multiple messaging topics | 15:45 |
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| TravT | that would make deployment easier | 15:45 |
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| TravT | but, does this mean configuration changes still in cinder or other services? | 15:46 |
| sjmc7 | nope, nothing | 15:46 |
| TravT | that's great | 15:46 |
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| TravT | so, i'd like to prioritize this high, then | 15:46 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, i’m gonna work on it this week | 15:47 |
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| TravT | so basically, as long as services are already emitting notifications, no additional changes to deploy searchlight. | 15:47 |
| sjmc7 | right | 15:48 |
| TravT | very cool | 15:48 |
| yingjun | so with this change, we will no need to add a specific topic for sl ? | 15:48 |
| sjmc7 | correct | 15:48 |
| yingjun | awesome | 15:48 |
| sjmc7 | the ‘pool’ becomes a rabbitmq queue rather than the topic itself | 15:49 |
| TravT | when we first tried this in liberty, oslo messaging pools had bugs | 15:49 |
| TravT | but that got sorted out since then | 15:49 |
| sjmc7 | yeah. nobody seems to remember what the problem was :) | 15:50 |
| TravT | okay, one last thing on agenda, then open discussion. | 15:50 |
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| TravT | #topic searchlight ui changes | 15:50 |
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| TravT | there has been a lot of work going on in horizon to enable registration of views / actions / etc for various resource types | 15:51 |
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| TravT | for the new angular work. | 15:51 |
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| TravT | tyr and matt-borland have been working together to do things that allow searchlight ui to best consume that work | 15:51 |
| TravT | so tyr has a number of patches up on searchlight ui | 15:52 |
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| TravT | i'll try to get other horizon reviewers to look at them as well | 15:52 |
| sjmc7 | they’re all a bit over my head | 15:52 |
| TravT | but one net affect is that you might have to go through a gyration or two to update horizon from master and update searchlight-ui with re-install a few times this cycle | 15:53 |
| TravT | to keep them in sync | 15:53 |
| TravT | okay... that's all on that. | 15:54 |
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| TravT | #topic open discussion | 15:54 |
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| TravT | FYI i will be out next week. | 15:54 |
| TravT | any volunteers to run the meeting? | 15:54 |
| sjmc7 | yeah, i can do it | 15:54 |
| TravT | thanks | 15:54 |
| TravT | i'll be out thursday / friday | 15:55 |
| TravT | okay, lei-zh yingjun anything you want to bring up? | 15:55 |
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| yingjun | https://review.openstack.org/318432, please review | 15:56 |
| TravT | ok | 15:56 |
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| yingjun | simple fix | 15:56 |
| lei-zh | nope, just want to say I'm honored to join the team:) | 15:57 |
| sjmc7 | :) welcome! | 15:57 |
| TravT | lei-zh: we're honored to have you! | 15:57 |
| rosmaita | +1 | 15:57 |
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| david-lyle | welcome | 15:57 |
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| lei-zh | thanks : ) | 15:57 |
| TravT | okay, well thanks everybody! | 15:58 |
| TravT | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 19 15:58:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-05-19-15.01.html | 15:58 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-05-19-15.01.txt | 15:58 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2016/openstack_search.2016-05-19-15.01.log.html | 15:58 |
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| david-lyle | thanks TravT | 15:58 |
| prometheanfire | odyssey4me: hi | 15:59 |
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| odyssey4me | #startmeeting OpenStack-Ansible | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 19 16:00:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is odyssey4me. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible' | 16:00 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Rollcall & Agenda | 16:00 |
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| automagically | o/ | 16:00 |
| spotz | \o/ - But I'm also in the diversity meeting so please tag if really needed:) | 16:00 |
| d34dh0r53 | o/ | 16:00 |
| errr | o/ | 16:00 |
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| odyssey4me | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 16:01 |
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| * mhayden woots | 16:01 | |
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| evrardjp | o? | 16:01 |
| andymccr | o/ | 16:01 |
| ametts | o/ | 16:01 |
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| spotz | mhayden damn you're quick | 16:01 |
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| michaelgugino | here | 16:01 |
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| prometheanfire | \o | 16:01 |
| mattt | \o | 16:02 |
| mhayden | spotz: i move fast! | 16:02 |
| jmccrory_ | o/ | 16:02 |
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| cloudnull | o/ | 16:03 |
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| odyssey4me | #topic Tests Repo | 16:04 |
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| odyssey4me | andymccr how's that going? | 16:04 |
| andymccr | so | 16:04 |
| andymccr | working through it hopefully have something tangible up next week | 16:04 |
| cloudnull | ++ nice! | 16:04 |
| andymccr | there are some things around repo cloning/role inclusion and what we want to keep in the separate roles | 16:04 |
| rromans | . | 16:04 |
| andymccr | which will be up for discussion after the PoC | 16:04 |
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| andymccr | but got a pretty good idea of how it will look (in a rough sense) and we can clean thatup | 16:05 |
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| evrardjp | thanks for the work already :) | 16:06 |
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| andymccr | so tl;dr its progressing, will have something next week - right now nothing specific! | 16:07 |
| odyssey4me | ok cool - are there any challenges you'd like some help with, or are you happy to keep going on your own for now? | 16:08 |
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| odyssey4me | andymccr ^ ? | 16:08 |
| andymccr | happy for now . i'll be able to get a working thing going - we may need to refine a lot thought :) | 16:09 |
| andymccr | *though | 16:09 |
| odyssey4me | cool, thanks for working on it | 16:09 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Action items from last week | 16:09 |
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| odyssey4me | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-05-12-16.01.html | 16:09 |
| odyssey4me | I am due most of them, and am behind in doing them. Some of these take time, but I'll keep going. | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Mid Cycle Planning | 16:10 |
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| odyssey4me | We didn't get to discuss this last time around and we need to make a call. | 16:10 |
| prometheanfire | where is it going to be this time? | 16:10 |
| spotz | San Antonio!:) | 16:11 |
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| odyssey4me | Last time we tried a co-located mid cycle, along with remote access. It didn't really work - so in my view it's either we're all using video conferencing, or we're all co-locating. | 16:11 |
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| cloudnull | SAT would certainly make my life easier :) | 16:11 |
| automagically | If its in San Antonio, I’m likely to be able to attend in-person | 16:11 |
| odyssey4me | All using video conferencing means that we'll have to figure out how to facilitate a mid cycle across time zones. | 16:11 |
| prometheanfire | ya, sat is easier for me | 16:11 |
| odyssey4me | All co-locating excludes many of us from participating. | 16:11 |
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| mattt | but in person 100% more productive also | 16:12 |
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| odyssey4me | I was thinking that we could certainly try out a video conf mid cycle across time zones such that we work out the work items ahead of time, then do sprint groups in each major time zone and hand over to each other at the end of the work day. | 16:13 |
| prometheanfire | hangouts? | 16:13 |
| odyssey4me | But yes, co-locating does allow us to have very different discussions - and allows us to discuss, think about it, then discuss again. | 16:13 |
| spotz | odyssey4me: I will say with use of etherpad the global bugsquash worked pretty well coordinating the groups in different timezones/locations | 16:13 |
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| odyssey4me | prometheanfire The tool for video conferencing isn't the issue - the issue is that working across time zones all together doesn't work, and nor does a mix of in-person and remote. | 16:14 |
| automagically | I like your proposal for structuring the video only odyssey4me | 16:15 |
| evrardjp | +1 | 16:15 |
| odyssey4me | jmccrory_ cloudnull d34dh0r53 stevelle mattt hughsaunders andymccr mhayden your input especially please | 16:15 |
| automagically | I’d prefer to be co-located, but understand that may not be possible | 16:15 |
| cloudnull | I like a co-located midcycle | 16:16 |
| stevelle | in person and remote mixed is how we work all the time | 16:16 |
| prometheanfire | we could probaby semi-colocate | 16:16 |
| d34dh0r53 | ^ | 16:16 |
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| cloudnull | we dont really need a midcycle to continue doing what we already do | 16:16 |
| stevelle | I'd agree with cloudnull on that | 16:16 |
| prometheanfire | heh, true | 16:17 |
| mhayden | i'd prefer something in-person | 16:17 |
| stevelle | it's nice if it can work | 16:17 |
| jmccrory | +1 semi-colocate if possible | 16:17 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, the focal point for the mid cycle is to continue design discussions we may not have completed at the summit, and to ensure that we can put the right people together to unblock any work that is critical to deliver this cycle | 16:17 |
| mhayden | perhaps we do two in-person rooms that are linked via VC? | 16:17 |
| mhayden | (as an alternative) | 16:17 |
| prometheanfire | mhayden: that's what I was thinking | 16:18 |
| mhayden | perhaps a north american and a european one | 16:18 |
| mhayden | then link them | 16:18 |
| odyssey4me | so the trouble with semi colocation, or any sort of mix where everyone isn't in the same room, is that we inevitably end up with side discussions that not everyone can hear | 16:18 |
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| spotz | +1 mhayden | 16:18 |
| spotz | odyssey4me: I think that's always a risk | 16:18 |
| odyssey4me | that's why I thought of the sprint groups - allowing localised co-location, but handovers between time zones | 16:18 |
| andymccr | id love to be optimistic, but i agree with odyssey4me - the logistics of it are tough and ive genuinely never seen it work. | 16:19 |
| mhayden | odyssey4me: there would just need to be ground rules for that | 16:19 |
| cloudnull | for folks who cant make the mid-cycle we could do a recorded hangout so folks can watch and participate via IRC. but i agree the logistics are hard. | 16:19 |
| andymccr | otherwise we need to have day 1 of midcycle be the "fix all the ridiculous issues with VC meetings" day | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | summary + vote? | 16:19 |
| odyssey4me | lol | 16:19 |
| mhayden | evrardjp and i talked, and we should have the midcycle in belgium | 16:20 |
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| odyssey4me | basically I was thinking that we forgo the trying to work together across time zones and instead work seperately, but hand over the work in a brief discussion | 16:20 |
| palendae | cloudnull, discussions aren't the same as a talk; not sure recording would be super valuable | 16:20 |
| evrardjp | :D | 16:20 |
| odyssey4me | (with the applicable code review) | 16:20 |
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| cloudnull | palendae: +1 | 16:22 |
| palendae | Appreciate the sentiment, just not sure enough people would view/listen to make it worth the hassle | 16:22 |
| d34dh0r53 | so IHMO side discussions happen just as much when we're all together as when co-located so that is sort of a non issue for me, we have to be more disciplined about sharing the results of those discussions (I myself am very guilty of not sharing) | 16:22 |
| cloudnull | it makes sense to have this next one in the US. | 16:22 |
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| odyssey4me | yeah, recordings are not the point | 16:23 |
| cloudnull | we had the last one in the UK | 16:23 |
| cloudnull | maybe philly :) -cc automagically | 16:23 |
| palendae | d34dh0r53, true, but it gets more garbled with video conferencing | 16:23 |
| andymccr | cloudnull: but the UK is the center of the world. so that just makes sense. | 16:23 |
| spotz | automagically and I discussed and we pick Aachen | 16:23 |
| d34dh0r53 | time starts in the UK | 16:23 |
| automagically | We could host, I’m sure | 16:23 |
| automagically | ha! | 16:23 |
| cloudnull | andymccr: it was once. now no longer. | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | andymccr: technically brussels is | 16:23 |
| andymccr | d34dh0r53: exactly. | 16:23 |
| andymccr | cloudnull: GMT - its where time begins. | 16:24 |
| cloudnull | and ends | 16:24 |
| cloudnull | :p | 16:24 |
| automagically | Sufficiently bike shedded yet? | 16:24 |
| d34dh0r53 | cool, let's have the mid-cycle in Brussels | 16:24 |
| andymccr | +1 automagically | 16:24 |
| andymccr | so vote or more ideas? or how are we gonna decide on this | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | ok, ok - we don't absolutely have to decide right now - I agree that it's fair to have it in the US if we all co-locate, but there are some other factors to discuss before we finalise that discussion. | 16:24 |
| mhayden | the yaks are bare | 16:24 |
| odyssey4me | The next things to think about is how long it should be. | 16:25 |
| cloudnull | to echo automagically im sure RAX at the castle would have no issues hosting | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | Then finally where it should be, assuming co-location. | 16:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | mhayden: that's the good thing about yaks, their pelts grow back very quickly | 16:25 |
| automagically | Was it 3 days last time | 16:25 |
| andymccr | automagically: only 1, it was not nearly enough | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | Previously we tried one day, and IMO it wasn't enough time. | 16:25 |
| mattt | figure out who can go, if most people are coming from SAT then naturally SAT | 16:25 |
| sigmavirus24 | midcycles are typically 3 days in the rest of openstack | 16:25 |
| palendae | Yeah, 1 day is too little, especially when having people travel to co-locate | 16:26 |
| d34dh0r53 | 3 days sounds good to me | 16:26 |
| automagically | 2-3 days seems reasonable | 16:26 |
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| odyssey4me | I have had 3 days of time recommended - generally the first day for discussion, the next day for follow-on and starting actual sprint work, then the last day to finalise work. | 16:26 |
| sigmavirus24 | y'all should try to get a room with video conferencing built-in to allow remotes though | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | sigmavirus24 we tried that last time and it was terrible | 16:26 |
| sigmavirus24 | what was terrible about it? | 16:26 |
| andymccr | sigmavirus24: yeah i mean we will do that i think - we tried last time, but yeah its quite hard. and the nature of mid-cycles doesn't really go well with vc's etc imo. | 16:26 |
| sigmavirus24 | it worked for the openstack security midcycle | 16:26 |
| odyssey4me | in fact it was quite disruptive | 16:26 |
| mhayden | i thought it was on someone's laptop last year | 16:26 |
| mhayden | or last time, i mean | 16:27 |
| mattt | the setup was poor, which is why it didn't work out | 16:27 |
| odyssey4me | mhayden nope, it was a VC in the room with the whole big camera, mic and all | 16:27 |
| mattt | but the room was crazy loud which didn't help | 16:27 |
| mhayden | weird | 16:27 |
| errr | try booking the room by the nda lab at the bottom of the stairs to the toy store | 16:28 |
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| andymccr | ok i think we should move on. we have an idea of the logistics/issues/ideas etc. | 16:28 |
| mattt | +1 | 16:29 |
| andymccr | there are some outstanding questions we need answers to before we can decide anyway. | 16:29 |
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| automagically | +1 | 16:29 |
| cloudnull | +1 | 16:29 |
| evrardjp | +1 | 16:29 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, agreed andymccr - let's think on it and discuss it again next week - I'd like very specific feedback about who would be able to come if we colocate in the US, where we could colocate, and what dates would be suitable for that colocation (for those offering venues) | 16:29 |
| automagically | ^ Makes sense | 16:30 |
| odyssey4me | #action Finalise discussion about mid-cycle next week | 16:30 |
| michaelgugino | what time frame are we talking about? July? | 16:30 |
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| odyssey4me | michaelgugino we can choose when, and we'll have to look into other mid cycle dates and try not to clash with any other mid cycles our contributors are attending | 16:32 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Release Planning and Decisions | 16:32 |
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| odyssey4me | We're scheduled to do releases for Liberty & Mitaka today - is there anything specific that's a blocker on any of those? | 16:33 |
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| odyssey4me | For Kilo note that we've done a SHA bump to the EOL tags for Kilo and will release our EOL late next week. If you have anything you need in Kilo, now's the time to get the patches done and justify why they should be included. | 16:33 |
| odyssey4me | Anyone got any blockers? | 16:34 |
| stevelle | I believe there is 1 change that could go into liberty but needs me to submit a known issue doc | 16:34 |
| stevelle | would be nice to get it in but isn't critical | 16:35 |
| automagically | I believe all the stuff I was concerned about has been merged into stable/mitaka | 16:35 |
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| evrardjp | stevelle: link or scope? | 16:36 |
| odyssey4me | stevelle Can it wait for the next tag? | 16:36 |
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| stevelle | odyssey4me: it can wait, it made it this far with only one person asking in irc for the fix | 16:37 |
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| odyssey4me | ok, thanks | 16:37 |
| odyssey4me | #action odyssey4me to request releases for Liberty, Mitaka today | 16:37 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Support | 16:38 |
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| odyssey4me | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-newton-ubuntu16-04 | 16:38 |
| odyssey4me | I think we're doing quite well so far. | 16:38 |
| odyssey4me | Thank you all for pitching in! | 16:38 |
| odyssey4me | You may have noticed that all non-openstack roles now have a non-voting xenial gate check - that merged this morning. | 16:38 |
| odyssey4me | I'll do the same for CentOS. | 16:39 |
| cloudnull | +1 woot! | 16:39 |
| automagically | Some really good progress there | 16:39 |
| jmccrory | nice | 16:39 |
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| odyssey4me | For those that are passing both CentOS and Xenial checks, I'll promote them to voting checks next week or ASAP afterwards. | 16:40 |
| mattt | i've been a bit tied up and haven't spent much time on the memcached role, if anyone is itching to take it over feel free | 16:40 |
| mattt | jmccrory left some good feedback which needs addressing | 16:40 |
| spotz | mine's not:( | 16:40 |
| odyssey4me | One note I've been warned about is that there aren't yet wheel mirrors for CentOS/Xenial, so the gate builds will be slower. | 16:40 |
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| odyssey4me | There is a local pypi mirror, so it'll still be reasonably fast. | 16:41 |
| michaelgugino | running into lots of fun quirks with xenial builds during gates | 16:42 |
| odyssey4me | Any questions/comments/thoughts? | 16:42 |
| michaelgugino | I don't feel we're getting consistent container builds | 16:42 |
| automagically | How so? | 16:42 |
| odyssey4me | michaelgugino after the patch merge this morning, that should be better. | 16:42 |
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| michaelgugino | this was passing: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312602/ | 16:43 |
| odyssey4me | https://review.openstack.org/315114 / https://review.openstack.org/318571 should have fixed up much of the container build weirdness that had been bugging us for around a week | 16:43 |
| michaelgugino | well, it was technically passing because the check was running two passes; one for the actual install, and one for the upgrade steps. The initial install was working, and it was failing on the upgrade steps | 16:43 |
| michaelgugino | I removed the upgrade steps, now we can't install pip due to what looks like an ssl error. I tweaked the test script to install ca-certificates, hopefully that helps. | 16:44 |
| jmccrory | ssl errors like that seem to be cropping up randomly recently | 16:44 |
| odyssey4me | the ssl error may be completely unrelated and may instead have to do with comms issues | 16:44 |
| michaelgugino | that's what is making me think inconsistent containers | 16:44 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp was digging into some of that, as was mattt | 16:44 |
| odyssey4me | we may have a container IP range clashing with the cloud provider ranges | 16:45 |
| odyssey4me | we had that before, and it caused the same kind of random failures | 16:45 |
| michaelgugino | I'm seeing u'Connection failure: unknown error (_ssl.c:2829)'} | 16:45 |
| odyssey4me | I would suggest checking the cloud providers to see if there's some consistency | 16:45 |
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| evrardjp | michaelgugino: could you check if you have connectivity? | 16:45 |
| michaelgugino | that error usually means invalid certs. Invalid certs means outdated ca-certificates package. | 16:46 |
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| evrardjp | because what I started with nova is definitely not done all over | 16:46 |
| michaelgugino | evrardjp: conn to what? | 16:46 |
| odyssey4me | we need to know if it's all providers, or some - if it's specific to the platform (trusty/xenial/centos) or not | 16:46 |
| evrardjp | +1 odyssey4me | 16:46 |
| michaelgugino | looks like it's just xenial atm | 16:46 |
| evrardjp | michaelgugino: I meant network connectivity working fine in the container, just to make sure | 16:47 |
| evrardjp | I can only track what I can see :p | 16:47 |
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| odyssey4me | michaelgugino FYI https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/blob/master/vars/ubuntu-16.04.yml#L61 is run on the container cache/image and therefore the containers have fully up to date package levels | 16:47 |
| michaelgugino | how do I check network connectivity in the container? | 16:47 |
| odyssey4me | that's why we had issues when we switched from the ubuntu archive to the rackspace mirror | 16:47 |
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| odyssey4me | you'll have to implement something in the tasks to output to the console - we have no access into the instances that run the thing | 16:48 |
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| odyssey4me | troubleshooting this stuff in openstack-ci is a pain... that's why the integrated gate has so much diagnostic information | 16:48 |
| michaelgugino | we should run apt-get update before we run apt-get upgrade | 16:49 |
| odyssey4me | michaelgugino that's done in line 60 | 16:50 |
| michaelgugino | I see that now | 16:50 |
| michaelgugino | odyssey4me: that's for the lxc_hosts. The failures seem to be in the containers themselves | 16:51 |
| odyssey4me | anyway - the point is that all you have for logs is the console, so to diagnose issues you have to put a WIP patch in which gives you the info you want on the console, then wait for the job to run | 16:51 |
| evrardjp | should we continue this outside the meeting? | 16:51 |
| michaelgugino | sure | 16:52 |
| odyssey4me | michaelgugino yep, I was just trying to tell you that the containers are up to date when they're built | 16:52 |
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| odyssey4me | ok, we can continue in the channel | 16:52 |
| odyssey4me | #topic Open Discussion | 16:52 |
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| odyssey4me | We have 5 mins available for general discussion | 16:52 |
| odyssey4me | Does anyone want to raise something specific? | 16:52 |
| errr | I have a question that fits here | 16:52 |
| errr | I made a blueprint for cloudkitty: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/role-cloudkitty | 16:53 |
| errr | and Im wondering how to proceed | 16:53 |
| errr | I had to make changes to os_horizon and added a playbook to osa so I wasnt sure what to do with all this.. | 16:53 |
| evrardjp | do you have a role we can already check? | 16:54 |
| errr | yes | 16:54 |
| evrardjp | good start :D | 16:54 |
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| logan- | Posted in the channel yesterday but easy to miss in the scrollback.. here's updated task/gate profiling: https://gist.github.com/Logan2211/6e3160c7d28d3886ba9d212c780e1918 | 16:54 |
| errr | https://github.com/michaelrice/openstack-ansible-os_cloudkitty | 16:54 |
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| odyssey4me | errr if you're ready to import then let me know and I'll request the import, then we can work on it from there | 16:55 |
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| errr | odyssey4me: Im ready to import | 16:55 |
| odyssey4me | errr with regards to edits on other roles, I'd suggest that you temporarily note them or include shortcut things for them in an 'extras' folder | 16:55 |
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| errr | odyssey4me: Im not sure I understand what you mean by that | 16:56 |
| odyssey4me | you can see an example here: https://github.com/flaviodsr/os_sahara/ | 16:56 |
| errr | ah ok | 16:56 |
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| odyssey4me | from there we can setup the tests, then work towards patching things into the other roles and the integrated repo | 16:56 |
| flaviodsr | about it odyssey4me any news on the sahara import? | 16:56 |
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| odyssey4me | I'll put in the request for the import | 16:57 |
| odyssey4me | flaviodsr https://review.openstack.org/317931 | 16:57 |
| evrardjp | thanks logan- :D | 16:57 |
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| flaviodsr | good thanks odyssey4me! | 16:57 |
| prometheanfire | I guess I'll just update and say that working to add a distro to nodepool is not fun and takes forever | 16:57 |
| odyssey4me | thanks logan- I haven't had a chance to look at it yet | 16:57 |
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| logan- | yep np | 16:58 |
| odyssey4me | flaviodsr I'll add a request to also have a core team for the sahara role and include you there, because you know how it works. | 16:58 |
| evrardjp | repo as usual :D | 16:58 |
| odyssey4me | errr I'll do the same for the cloudkitty role. | 16:58 |
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| errr | ok thanks | 16:59 |
| flaviodsr | ok odyssey4me, I am about to finish the install-guide entry | 16:59 |
| odyssey4me | We're out of time, so any further discussion can happen in #openstack-ansible. | 16:59 |
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| odyssey4me | Thanks all for your time and continued contributions! | 16:59 |
| odyssey4me | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 19 16:59:39 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-05-19-16.00.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-05-19-16.00.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-05-19-16.00.log.html | 16:59 |
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| LouisF | #startmeeting service_chaining | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 19 17:02:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is LouisF. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'service_chaining' | 17:02 |
| pcarver | hi | 17:02 |
| LouisF | hi all | 17:02 |
| doonhammer | HI | 17:02 |
| yamahata | hello | 17:02 |
| igordcard | hi | 17:02 |
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| LouisF | cathy is out today | 17:02 |
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| mohankumar__ | hi | 17:02 |
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| LouisF | she posted an agenda | 17:03 |
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| LouisF | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceFunctionChainingMeeting | 17:03 |
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| LouisF | #topic use-case documentation | 17:04 |
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| LouisF | pcarver: i believe you were going to provide some input here? | 17:04 |
| LouisF | doonhammer: do you have a use-case to share? | 17:05 |
| pcarver | LouisF: unfortunately I haven't collected anything yet. It's on my todo list. | 17:05 |
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| doonhammer | <LouisF> Working on them will have something by Monday | 17:05 |
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| LouisF | great - can you add a page to the wiki | 17:06 |
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| LouisF | ok moving on | 17:06 |
| igordcard | talking about use cases, I would like to inquiry about how the team is planning to support SFC encapsulation (since NSH is in the plans) | 17:06 |
| doonhammer | LouisF: Sure | 17:06 |
| s3wong | hello --- sorry, a bit late | 17:07 |
| LouisF | igordcard: currently the ovs driver uses mpls to encapsulate the nsp, nsi | 17:08 |
| LouisF | the nsp uses the mpls.label and nsi uses mpls.ttl | 17:08 |
| igordcard | LouisF: yes, but doesn't actually achieve sfc-encap | 17:08 |
| vishnoianil | LouisF, i am double shifting with opendaylight tsc meeting,so my response will be slow | 17:08 |
| LouisF | vishnoianil: ok | 17:08 |
| igordcard | LouisF: I can send an email to the ML after, or there won't be enough time at the meeting | 17:08 |
| LouisF | igordcard: ok | 17:09 |
| scsnow | hi | 17:09 |
| igordcard | but in the context of use cases, let me share this etherpad link for further analysis and discussion: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/networking-sfc-and-sfc-encapsulation | 17:09 |
| LouisF | regarding ovs support for nsh - patches exist but it may be some time before is makes into an official ovs release | 17:10 |
| LouisF | igordcard: thanks | 17:10 |
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| pcarver | The MPLS encap is really just a temporary thing. At least that was how I understood it. | 17:10 |
| LouisF | pcarver: that is correct | 17:11 |
| pcarver | It's not true MPLS, it's just using an MPLS tag to identify a chain. | 17:11 |
| LouisF | pcarver: exactly | 17:11 |
| pcarver | when OvS supports NSH we do expect to use it | 17:11 |
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| LouisF | pcarver: that is the plan | 17:12 |
| igordcard | my concern here is that simply adding NSH doesn't add anything else besides metadata support, since the advantage of having multiple SFPs cannot be exploited with the current networking-sfc model | 17:13 |
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| LouisF | the usage of nsp, nsi is per the ietf nsh draft | 17:13 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: can you elaborate | 17:14 |
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| pcarver | igordcard: on the subject of use cases above, can you provide any use cases that can't be represented by the current networking-sfc API? | 17:14 |
| LouisF | a port chain is an sfp | 17:14 |
| igordcard | LouisF: essentially, how can you link port-chains together to form, essentially, a graph? (not like the ETSI's VNFFG though) | 17:15 |
| pcarver | If we had a use case that we can't handle then we could figure out what changes would be needed in order to support it | 17:15 |
| LouisF | pcarver: +1 | 17:15 |
| igordcard | pcarver: in the etherpad above I present the reasons for having sfc-encap, and the n-sfc model bottlenecks it | 17:16 |
| igordcard | and how the n-sfc* | 17:16 |
| LouisF | igordcard: sfc-encap is currently supported by the ovs driver | 17:17 |
| igordcard | LouisF: that was my initial understanding, but after further analysis it is a mix between SFP and RSP | 17:17 |
| igordcard | LouisF: it is an SFP because, indeed, you specify a path and you can have multiple possible instances for a PPG (for a single SPI/SI) | 17:17 |
| igordcard | LouisF: but, it is also not fully an SFP since you can't link it to other SFPs to form an SFC | 17:17 |
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| igordcard | LouisF: so it falls back to an RSP (you define your chain from the beginning to the end, function by function) | 17:18 |
| LouisF | igordcard: the port-chain abstraction is an SFP, that actual path taken (RSP) is detemined in the data-plane | 17:19 |
| igordcard | LouisF: when I say sfc-encap, I'm talking about the concept, not the act of inserting an SFC header | 17:20 |
| LouisF | igordcard: i don't follow | 17:21 |
| igordcard | LouisF: correct, but if you look at it from an SFC perspective, the SFP is incomplete or there an additional resource to "glue" SFPs needs to exist | 17:21 |
| igordcard | SFCs are made up of SFPs, if we can't connect SFPs to form an SFC, then there is a gap in the model | 17:21 |
| LouisF | port-chains can be joined to make more complex graphs as necessary | 17:22 |
| igordcard | LouisF: as in ETSI VNFFG? | 17:23 |
| LouisF | igordcard: yes | 17:23 |
| igordcard | LouisF: then it means networking-sfc is an RSP API | 17:23 |
| LouisF | the port-chain maps directly to an ETSI MANO network forwarding path (NFP) | 17:23 |
| igordcard | VNFFG is made up of RSPs, you classify once in the beginning of the RSP, and then hop function by function until the end. The graph is the list of all of these possible RSPs | 17:24 |
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| LouisF | the concept of rsp is not mentioned in the ETSI MANO doc | 17:24 |
| LouisF | rsps are only mentioned in the ietf nsh draft | 17:25 |
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| igordcard | how many times can we classify after entering a VNFFG? | 17:26 |
| LouisF | igordcard: the ETSI MANO spec does not mention classification | 17:27 |
| LouisF | correct me if i'm wrong | 17:28 |
| doonhammer | It might help if igordcard could contribute some use cases and then we can design to the use cases? | 17:29 |
| LouisF | igordcard: can you add a use-case description in the wikie | 17:29 |
| igordcard | LouisF: yes when I said RSP it was actually NFP, which maps nicely to IETF's RSP | 17:29 |
| doonhammer | otherwise we have an infinity of possibilities - hard to design for | 17:29 |
| igordcard | possible use cases are covered by RFC 7498 and 7665, but I can try to get some more besides the one at the etherpad | 17:30 |
| LouisF | igordcard: ok thanks | 17:30 |
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| igordcard | doonhammer: yes, which is why I'm trying to keep it close to standardization efforts | 17:30 |
| LouisF | #action paul, john igor to add use-cases to wiki | 17:30 |
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| igordcard | and since there is interest in NSH, it should be usable to its full extent (at the networking layer) | 17:31 |
| doonhammer | igordcard the IETF use cases need more detail - they are fairly weak (IMHO) | 17:31 |
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| LouisF | lets come back to this next week after we have the use-cases documented, i'd like to move on | 17:32 |
| igordcard | LouisF: sure, I'll send an email too | 17:32 |
| LouisF | igordcard: thanks | 17:32 |
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| LouisF | #topic flow-classifier priority | 17:32 |
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| LouisF | mohankumar: you have a blueprint i think? | 17:33 |
| mohankumar | LouisF, Filled a bug for it | 17:33 |
| mohankumar | https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/1582238 | 17:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1582238 in networking-sfc "Add "priority” field in flow-classifier" [Undecided,In progress] | 17:33 |
| LouisF | ok bug | 17:33 |
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| mohankumar | please add your comments | 17:33 |
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| scsnow | who will work on implementation of this spec? | 17:34 |
| mohankumar | it help to prioritize fc when multiple FC are added in chain | 17:34 |
| LouisF | i think we can fold this into the common classifier work | 17:34 |
| s3wong | LouisF: we probably want to experiment this on the SFC classifier first, right? | 17:35 |
| LouisF | s3wong: we can certainly do that | 17:35 |
| s3wong | LouisF: the common classifier discussion on Tuesday was mostly on creating a new channel :-) | 17:35 |
| LouisF | s3wong: has that meeting date been finalized? | 17:36 |
| s3wong | LouisF: the first one was, then TBD :-) | 17:36 |
| mohankumar | LouisF , SFC needs it . Although can be extend to common classifier | 17:36 |
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| LouisF | mohankumar: ok all please review the bug | 17:37 |
| s3wong | LouisF, mohankumar: the idea is SFC classifier would come in consideration alongside with QoS, FWaaS...etc; so nothing is preventing you from adding existing one first, and we can put that on the table when discussing common classifier with the wider community | 17:37 |
| LouisF | who is interested on working on the implementation? | 17:37 |
| LouisF | s3wong: +1 | 17:38 |
| mohankumar | LouisF : i take it | 17:38 |
| LouisF | mohankumar: will you also to the ovs driver work? | 17:38 |
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| mohankumar | LouisF , For the ovs driver i may need some help if someone help can be share and do | 17:39 |
| scsnow | I think I can help with ovs driver | 17:40 |
| mohankumar | scsnow , thanks ! | 17:40 |
| LouisF | scsnow: great thanks | 17:40 |
| s3wong | LouisF, mohankumar: what is the ovs driver work? OVS driver work pertaining to adding priority to classifier? | 17:40 |
| LouisF | s3wong: yes | 17:40 |
| LouisF | the flow classifier priority need to be mapped to ovs flow rule priority | 17:41 |
| s3wong | LouisF: sure, makes sense | 17:42 |
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| LouisF | mohankumar: scsnow need to add unit test cases also | 17:42 |
| scsnow | sure | 17:42 |
| mohankumar | Yes Louisf : sure | 17:42 |
| scsnow | is that correct, that currently multiple flow classifiers can be assigned to port chain and it's handled correctly by ovs driver? | 17:43 |
| LouisF | scsnow: yes | 17:44 |
| mohankumar | scsnow : yes | 17:44 |
| scsnow | ok, good | 17:44 |
| igordcard | AND or OR logic? | 17:44 |
| LouisF | #action mohan pavel to work on flow-classifier priority | 17:44 |
| scsnow | igordcard, and | 17:45 |
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| igordcard | scsnow: thanks | 17:45 |
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| LouisF | ok moving on | 17:46 |
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| LouisF | #topic move chain id generation from ovs driver to port chain plugin | 17:47 |
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| LouisF | currently the chain id (nsp) is generated in the ovs driver but it should really be in the plugin as it is common functionality for all backend drivers | 17:48 |
| s3wong | LouisF: I don't think anyone would argue against that | 17:48 |
| LouisF | we are working on a patch to do this work | 17:48 |
| igordcard | fully agree with it, but I have a question: besides NSH do you plan to support other encap protos? | 17:49 |
| LouisF | igordcard: the focus is on nsh | 17:49 |
| LouisF | expect a patch for review soon | 17:50 |
| igordcard | LouisF: okay, if it wasn't then stuff like length constraints for SPIs/SIs would be something to keep in mind when generating these IDs | 17:50 |
| LouisF | moving on | 17:50 |
| LouisF | igordcard: agree | 17:51 |
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| LouisF | #topic SF insertion type/mode | 17:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "SF insertion type/mode (Meeting topic: service_chaining)" | 17:52 | |
| s3wong | igordcard: but it still isn't driver specific, right? So what we are doing here still makes sense, correct? | 17:52 |
| igordcard | s3wong: not driver specific, no, since if they claim to support NSH, they should do it in a standard way | 17:52 |
| s3wong | igordcard: OK. Cool. | 17:53 |
| LouisF | igordcard: +1 | 17:53 |
| LouisF | this next topic will take some discussion so best if we hold this for next week | 17:53 |
| s3wong | LouisF: insertion type/mode? | 17:54 |
| LouisF | s3wong: whether it is bump-in-wire, l2, l3 | 17:54 |
| mohankumar | LouisF , the topic about dynamic SF insertion to chain ? | 17:54 |
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| LouisF | mohankumar: no | 17:55 |
| s3wong | LouisF: good topic. I am working with FWaaS folks, and am urging them to go with an insertion "plugin" with networking-sfc as default backend driver | 17:55 |
| scsnow | can someone help with reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311509/ -- that's because we force openflow13 protocol for all commands when using ovs-ofctl | 17:56 |
| mohankumar | LouisF , okay | 17:56 |
| scsnow | we need to determine acceptable approach how to fix that correctly | 17:56 |
| s3wong | scsnow: sure. Just added myself as reviewer | 17:56 |
| doonhammer | s3wong coming from a ngfw vendor that seems the best approach for most use cases | 17:57 |
| LouisF | scsnow: ok will review | 17:57 |
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| LouisF | ok lets discuss more next week | 17:57 |
| igordcard | is the insertion type feature only for a "legacy mode", i.e. only when sfc encap is disabled? | 17:57 |
| s3wong | doonhammer: yep... as vendor also, FWaaS insertion method is just directly writing L2agent extension themselves with iptables/Linux-bridge as backend, very inflexible | 17:57 |
| doonhammer | s3wong: agreed does not solve customer problems | 17:58 |
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| LouisF | igordcard: for non-sfc aware SFs | 17:59 |
| s3wong | LouisF: is there an insertion spec or idea/email-thread to lay groundwork for discussion? | 17:59 |
| igordcard | LouisF: thanks | 17:59 |
| LouisF | also new driver capability discovery spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317635 | 17:59 |
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| LouisF | please review | 17:59 |
| LouisF | thanks all | 17:59 |
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| LouisF | bye | 18:00 |
| scsnow | bye | 18:00 |
| LouisF | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 19 18:00:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-05-19-17.02.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-05-19-17.02.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_chaining/2016/service_chaining.2016-05-19-17.02.log.html | 18:00 |
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| igordcard | bye | 18:00 |
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